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Title: Germany Threatens To Halt Submarine Sale to Israel
Source: SPIEGEL ONLINE
URL Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international ... ,1518,794991,00.html#ref=nlint
Published: Oct 31, 2011
Author: SPIEGEL ONLINE
Post Date: 2011-10-31 19:13:16 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 40010
Comments: 87

Germany is threatening to stop the delivery of a "Dolphin" submarine to Israel in protest over the country's settlement policies. Government sources confirmed the development when asked by SPIEGEL following speculation last week in the Israeli media that Germany might halt the sale.

The move is in response to the recent decision by the Israeli government to approve the construction of 1,100 homes in Gilo, an Arab part of Jerusalem captured from Jordan in the 1967 Six Day War. The Israeli government considers the area to be a Jewish suburb, but the international community contests that description.

The threat by German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been the subject of considerable concern in Israel.

The nuclear-weapons capable Dolphin submarines are an important part of the Israeli military strategy. The navy already owns three of the submarines and two further vessels are currently being built by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW), the shipbuilding division of German steelmaker Thyssen-Krupp, in Kiel, Germany.

This summer, the German government approved €135 million ($189 million) in funding to assist Israel with the purchase of a sixth Dolphin submarine over the next four years. Now, however, that deal for the sixth submarine is in jeopardy.

In addition to its capability of firing nuclear warheads, the submarine also has a larger cruising range because of its advanced modern fuel-cell propulsion technology.

Germany has been delivering submarines to Israel since the end of the 1990s following the first Gulf War. The first two submarines given to Israel were entirely subsidized by the German government, but those subsidies are being reduced with each additional purchase. Under the current program, the government is subsidizing one-third of the cost of the submarine.

'A Five-Year Plan on Holocaust Reparations'

In January, SPIEGEL reported on a United States diplomatic cable obtained by WikiLeaks dating back to January 2005 indicating that the partial subsidization of some submarine sales could be a backchannel diplomatic response to demands for Holocaust reparations payments made by Israel at the time.

An advisor to then-prime minister Ariel Sharon informed the United States Embassy in Tel Aviv of a "five-year plan on Holocaust-era reparations, pensions and restitution." The document cited the advisor stating that the plan envisioned the Israeli government calling for Germany to take over responsibility for restitution payments that had been ignored by East Germany in the sum of around $500 million, "possibly in the form of new German-made submarines." It was a portion of a 1953 German-Israeli reparations agreement "that had been attributed to East Germany, but never paid." A member of the working group from the prime minister's office contended "that such a GOI claim would not violate any 'closure' agreements about Holocaust-era claims because it would be based on the unfulfilled portion of a pre-existing agreement."

The timing of the demand was good because in 2005, Germany and Israel celebrated 40 years of diplomatic relations. Redress also played a role in the submarine deals at the time, sources with knowledge of it confirmed to SPIEGEL in January. Then-Chancellor Gerhard Schröder approved the deal for the submarine exports during his last days in office in November 2005.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

There is no reason why Germany or anyone else should be providing Israel with nuclear capabilities. If whatever they did to the Jews in WWII was their first mistake, enabling Israel with offensive nuke capability is their second.

Pinguinite  posted on  2011-10-31   22:02:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#1)

If whatever they did to the Jews in WWII was their first mistake, enabling Israel with offensive nuke capability is their second.

The playing ground is becoming a little more equal this time around. Paybacks a bitch, ain't it?

Murron  posted on  2011-10-31   22:24:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Murron (#3)

The playing ground is becoming a little more equal this time around. Paybacks a bitch, ain't it?

Only if Israel has a nuke aimed at your house.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-01   0:13:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mininggold (#6)

Only if Israel has a nuke aimed at your house.

I suppose you're among those who's intire life has been fked up by jews..eh? The people of Israel know exactly who their real enemies are, and then there is 'you', and people like you, too g-damn STUPID TO LIVE!

If you have a legitimate, documented gripe about Israel Post it bimbo!

Murron  posted on  2011-11-01   2:08:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Murron, mininggold (#7)

...'you', and people like you, too g-damn STUPID TO LIVE!

Ignoring your best advice, God has decided otherwise.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-01   13:17:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#13)

Hilarious...

war  posted on  2011-11-01   13:46:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war, lucysmom (#15)

It appears that Stone and Mammy both belong to the same religious sect, the one that believes in calling on their god to murder their opponents.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-11-01   14:03:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro (#16)

It appears that Stone and Mammy both belong to the same religious sect, the one that believes in calling on their god to murder their opponents.

It must be confusing for their god when the enemy belongs to the same sect.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-01   14:18:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom, mininggold, war, Skip Intro, Ferret Mike (#17)

It must be confusing for their god when the enemy belongs to the same sect.

The people of Easter Europe during wwll had their reasons for hating the jewish people and handing them over to be exterminated, it was either cooperate, or their families would suffer the same consequences.

What you people represent has nothing to do with God. Most of the people of Europe then were ignorant of the situation, or feared for their families safety, they had legitimate reasons.

You are a free and safe people, what is your excuse today for the hate you harbor?

My father saw the results of jewish hate, and it haunted him to his grave. jmho!

Murron  posted on  2011-11-01   15:48:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Murron (#18)

You are a free and safe people, what is your excuse today for the hate you harbor?

Are you kidding? According to you we live in communist oppression under the iron rule of the Muslim usurper MoFo Obama.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-11-01   20:11:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Skip Intro, Murron (#27)

Are you kidding? According to you we live in communist oppression under the iron rule of the Muslim usurper MoFo Obama.

Murron is another one of those commune-ist fellow travelers. She believes that she can steal other's hard work, their intellectual property, and call it her own. And arrogantly shows not one iota of remorse or apology when called on it.

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-02   0:13:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold (#31) (Edited)

She believes that she can steal other's hard work, their intellectual property, and call it her own. And arrogantly shows not one iota of remorse or apology when called on it.

She also approves of Israel stealing other peoples land, as does Stonehead.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-11-05   12:31:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Skip Intro, minginggold, A K A Stone (#36)

minginggold: "She believes that she can steal other's hard work, their intellectual property, and call it her own. And arrogantly shows not one iota of remorse or apology when called on it."

Skip Intro: "She also approves of Israel stealing other peoples land, as does Stonehead."

Ping to #39. If either of you cannot give a legitimate and sane answer to that post, then you both will have proven you do not have any intellectual intelligence beyond that of group think, and cannot rise above personal attacks and prefer to remain STUPID!

Prove me wrong~

Murron  posted on  2011-11-05   15:08:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#41. To: Murron (#40)

Your post 39 does it for me.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-11-05 15:12:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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