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Title: Herman Cain Plans To Cut Campaign Appearances To Avoid Missteps
Source: NYDAILY NEWS
URL Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol ... void-missteps-article-1.968961
Published: Oct 29, 2011
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2011-10-29 19:03:25 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 22588
Comments: 49

BIRMNGHAM, Ala. (AP) -- Presidential candidate Herman Cain is full of confidence about his 2012 prospects.

It's been weeks since he's set foot in first-voting Iowa or New Hampshire, yet he said Saturday he said expects to finish first or second in each state.

He's also predicting victory in South Carolina, which will hold the South's first presidential contest in 2012.

"And then, look out," Cain said Saturday before plunging into a crowd of football tailgaters at Samford University, a Baptist-affiliated school in Alabama.

That win, he says, will set the stage for him to capture the GOP nomination.

Cain, however, said he plans to "dial back" his campaign and media appearances in order to avoid missteps. Since climbing in the polls, he has had a series of fumbles, forcing him to clarify comments on abortion, immigration and terrorism suspects.

Cain has chalked up the mistakes to a grueling campaign schedule jammed with media interviews. Such itineraries are standard fare on the presidential campaign trail and it is unclear how aggressively he will restrict his schedule.

A former pizza magnate who has never held elected office, Cain is adapting from a longshot candidate hustling for any media attention to a front-runner who must be more selective with his time and disciplined in his message.

"When you're too tired you're not on you're `A game,'" the 65-year-old Georgia businessman told a throng of reporters who greeted the arrival of his bus on the Samford campus.

He said it was a mistake to schedule interviews immediately following debates. Cain maintained he did not flip-flop on issues, but simply did not hear questions properly.

The blunt-spoken Cain has been more cautious lately. At a campaign stop at the Alabama Republican Party headquarters on Friday, Cain paused then asked a reporter to repeat a complicated two-part question on immigration.

"I don't want to have to clarify," he said with a laugh.

Not everyone thinks walking back a misstatement is a sign of weakness.

"I like that if he says something, he's not afraid to turn around and admit he's wrong," said Phil Andrews, of Birmingham, who tried without success to reach the candidate and have him sign his Cain t-shirt.

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#1. To: All (#0)

A former pizza magnate who has never held elected office, Cain is adapting from a longshot candidate hustling....

FOUND: Two slurs in one sentence by 0bama media organ, the sleazy NY Daily News.

Notice how the Liberal-Left ALWAYS refers to Cain as a "Pizza" something or another in it's underhanded attempts to ridicule him.

The "hustling" comment is intended to invoke some kind of sleazy, borderline legal connotation. People are usually described "hustling" tricks and compromising on personal principle.

Imagine if 0bama had been described "the former Community Organizer" who was "hustling" whatever?

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-30   11:24:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Liberator (#1)

He's a Koch Brothers surrogate. That is the most damning thing about him.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   11:26:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

He's a Koch Brothers surrogate. That is the most damning thing about him.

Stop with the Koch stuff...

Soros OWNS 0bama. You know that, right?

Does IT bother you?

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-30   11:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Liberator (#3)

Your need to deflect rather then rebut is what is the most amusing thing about that response to my post on the Koch's lap dog to me, actually.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   11:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike (#4) (Edited)

Your need to deflect rather then rebut is what is the most amusing thing about that response to my post on the Koch's lap dog to me, actually.

Tea Baggers appear to intensely dislike being associated with their rich patrons. They flee the light like rats.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-30   11:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4) (Edited)

I find it odd that *suddenly* the Koch bros have burst onto the political scene as the GOP boogieman and supposed puppetmeister ever since KOS, HuffPo, and DU have ordained them so. I guess they are supposed to be the counterweight to Soros (who fellow Leftists and Commies don't seem to have a problem with).

Sorry - NOT only am I NOT buying your premise, but the Koch "influence" can't even be compared to Soros' degree of evil AND subversion.

You're welcome to build your own case, then compare and contract, though.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-30   11:58:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#6)

You are still just trying to change the subject. Perhaps if you addressed my point before adding your argument I would give you the courtesy of a response on it.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   12:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

You are still just trying to change the subject. Perhaps if you addressed my point before adding your argument I would give you the courtesy of a response on it.

Tell me - WHAT exactly is egregious about the Koch's? Can you explain that first, Mike?

You claim Cain is "a Koch Brothers surrogate." You claim this alone is "damning".

WHAT EXACTLY is "damning"?

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-30   12:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator (#8)

You mean explain why I find the manner they employ Machiavellian principles to the manner they use to spread the influence of their wealth around to try to exert political influence in an underhanded way?

You do realize this is a topic with enough scope and depth to it for another thread that could take days to develop.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   12:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

....the manner they use to spread the influence of their wealth around to try to exert political influence in an underhanded way?

Is that the same as what lobbyists do?

Are the Koch's influencing America in a subversive manner? Are they trying to screw the middle class by screwing with international currencies? (like Soros)

Is their supporting politically conservative causes and candidates REALLY the reason your side (yes, YOUR side) continues to make the Koch's to root of all evil?

Considering what and who 0bama's surrogate is - George Soros - don't you think whatever the Koch's are, they are absolute *angels" compared to him?

IF we're comparing oranges-to-oranges, Mike, this HAS to come back to 0bama. AND *his* surrogate.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-30   12:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Liberator (#10)

"Is that the same as what lobbyists do?"

Many of them, yes.

I don't like the tactics that people like this use such as subsidizing efforts to make it harder for people to exercise their franchise to vote, if you want an example of the wrong way to spread one's money around for something.

The Koch brothers do not play a clean game. I got press as the whistle bower that kept Nader off the ballot in Oregon in the Bush v. Kerry race when I investigated detective style and found corruption in the initiative ballot process being used to get him on the ballot.

So, it's not like I don't know a foul game when I see it.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   12:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

This is all about you hating a black man running for President.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   12:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: no gnu taxes (#12)

I wonder how many blacks are working at RNC headquarters?

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-30   12:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: no gnu taxes (#12)

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=25511&Disp=0

Which is why I posted a video of a Black man explaining why he choses Ron Paul over Mr. Cain, right?

Go watch a few of this guy's videos, he's great -- even when we disagree I like him because unlike you, he's an ethical conservative.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   12:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: no gnu taxes (#12)

This is all about you hating a black man running for President.

Project much?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-30   13:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Skip Intro (#15)

Gnu has 'gnothing' to say. Of course, he has only smoke and mirrors when he does; but he hates being embarrassed like this.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   13:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike, (#14)

deflection

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   14:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: no gnu taxes (#17) (Edited)

Nah, what I'm doing is talking over the crickets that started chirping merrily away while you sulked in front of your Apple II computer trying to think of a way to respond. Where do you go, sport?

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   14:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike, skip intro (#18)

Why don't you guys just admit that you trash Cain because you hate decent black people?

Koch brothers? Please. Citing moonbat tinfoil ruminations doesn't help your case.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   18:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: no gnu taxes (#19)

"Why don't you guys just admit that you trash Cain because you hate decent black people?"

Why do you do failed attacks over and over?

In any event, you are one of the most worthless fuckwits I have seen in a forum. There is only so long I'll argue with an idiot of your sort. And we are past that point here.

I have nothing to say to one that has nothing to add.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   19:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#20)

In any event, you are one of the most worthless fuckwits I have seen in a forum.

There's a reason why this dipshit has over 100 different screen names.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-30   19:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#11)

I don't like the tactics that people like this use such as subsidizing efforts to make it harder for people to exercise their franchise to vote, if you want an example of the wrong way to spread one's money around for something.

The Koch brothers do not play a clean game. I got press as the whistle bower that kept Nader off the ballot in Oregon in the Bush v. Kerry race when I investigated detective style and found corruption in the initiative ballot process being used to get him on the ballot.

So, it's not like I don't know a foul game when I see it.

What kind of corruption? Were Mickey Mouse and dead Democratic voters involved? Come on - as though Nader had a chance? If anything, Nader affected KERRY'S constituency, not Bush's. Politics is dirty - it's a given. Even within the same party. The Dems are far worse in this respect. NO one manipulates things more than Soros; No party cheats at stealing votes (dead, inner-city, and otherwise) more than the Dem Party.

Btw, who kept Hitlery off the Dem primary ballot in Michigan and Florida? Remember that back in 2008 when Bubbette was still alive? Hmmm...was it 0bama's sponsor, Soros?

Think about it.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-30   19:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: no gnu taxes (#19)

Why don't you guys just admit that you trash Cain because you hate decent black people?

No, they just hate decent black people who reject the Dem Plantation. This supposedly makes them...."white."

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-30   20:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#23)

No, they just hate decent black people who reject the Dem Plantation. This supposedly makes them...."white."

Exactly. It makes them independent which leftards like skippy and ferret face can't stand.

Koch brothers. Geez. Will that be Obama's debate talking points?

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   20:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: no gnu taxes (#19) (Edited)

you trash Cain because you hate decent black people?

Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

Republican Family Values on display.

Are you going to start calling him a nigger too, padlock?

Should I waste my time and dig up all your posts where you use your favorite word in the whole wide world?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-30   20:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Skip Intro (#21)

"There's a reason why this dipshit has over 100 different screen names."

To be successful at posting in a political forum, one must have some empathy for the POV of everyone, even should they disagree.

He just doesn't care, and imposes bad behavior on people that the ineffective moderation of this forum allows to flourish.

He generally is bozoed and he's about due to go back on the list. I always take even the worst people off to size up the situation. But he's about do to stay on it until this is no longer one of the forums I post on.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   20:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Skip Intro (#25)

"Are you going to start calling him a [expletive deleted] too, padlock?"

He likes Mr. Cain as long as it suits his selfish purposes. Essentially this man is that to him already; but he needs a tool for political squabbling, so it suits his agenda to pretend he likes and supports him.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   20:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Skip Intro (#25)

you trash Cain because you hate decent black people?

Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

So now you start your "Clarence Thomas" campaign?

Yet you had no problem with Sinkboy's multiple rapes?

You assholes are so transparent.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   20:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#27)

it suits his agenda to pretend he likes and supports him.

I do support him and hope he becomes Prez. Obviously, you do not.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   20:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: no gnu taxes (#28)

So now you start your "Clarence Thomas" campaign?

Not me, padlock. It's news, just out today. Multiple accusers. Witnesses. Lawyers.

Deal with it. Herb's going to have to.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-30   20:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: no gnu taxes (#29) (Edited)

So are we playing who posts last now? Do you not have anything better to do?

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   21:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Skip Intro (#30)

Deal with it. Herb's going to have to.

He is dealing with it and he only reason this is being reported is because you want to see a decent black man being politically lynched.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   21:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Liberator (#22)

"If anything, Nader affected KERRY'S constituency, not Bush's."

Meaningless posturing. I know Oregon in the context of that election far better then you do, so spare me the hyperbole.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   21:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: no gnu taxes (#32)

He is dealing with it and he only reason this is being reported is because you want to see a decent black man being politically lynched.

If you actually read the article you'd see that it's very fair to him.

That's the difference between what I post from legitimate sites and what you post from your hate sites.

I see you like the work "lynched". Makes you hot, does it?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-30   21:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

So are we playing who posts last now? Do you not have anything better to do?

Do you? Can't you go eff a squirrel or something? Or Maybe start a lynch Cain campaign?

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   21:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Skip Intro (#34) (Edited)

It likely does. He should of used a heavier pad in his panties this morning.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   21:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: no gnu taxes (#35)

"Can't you go eff a squirrel or something?"

Why I Choose Paul Over Cain - Deal With It!

Entertain me; explain how this African American man hates Cain because he's racist.

So, how long to you want this pissing contest of getting the last post in to go?

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   21:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Skip Intro (#34)

If you actually read the article you'd see that it's very fair to him.

Oh right, I've read the sites and it's of the nature "Cain is accused, but he denies it."

Tell me how Sinkboy or the Kenyan was ever treated in this manner. Their accusers were treated as kooks.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   21:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

You found one black guy who prefers a kook over a decent black guy? Good for you. Makes your case decisively.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   21:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: no gnu taxes (#39)

You did not address the question. So, how long do you want to play who does the last post? I am very patient, and I am on my lappie watching Netflix on my best Deskie. It's no problem, we can do this a few hours if you'd like to.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   21:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#40)

Entertain me; explain how this African American man hates Cain because he's racist.

It's one guy. What's your point?

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-30   21:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: no gnu taxes (#41)

What's your's besides still not answering the question.

You posture that I am man with a wonderful son with an African American Mom who gave me two lovely grand daughters is allegedly racist because it suits the purpose of a fuckwit like you to try to taunt and evade answering questions put to you.

Also you refuse to answer how long you want this pissing contest to go on. You might as well do the game right now, as I'll be too busy next week to do a pissing contest a la who posts last next week.

Get on the stick and answer questions, son. You are just not doing very well here.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-30   22:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: no gnu taxes (#38)

Tell me how Sinkboy or the Kenyan was ever treated in this manner. Their accusers were treated as kooks.

"Sinkboy" was impeached for lying, and as far as Obama, your calling him the "Kenyan" and you and your birther lunatics have done far worse smears of him and his wife than anything poor old Herb has had to put with.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-31   17:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Skip Intro (#43)

"Sinkboy" was impeached for lying

He should have been sentenced to prison for life as a serial rapist.

your calling him the "Kenyan" and you and your birther lunatics have done far worse smears of him and his wife than anything poor old Herb has had to put with.

That kenyan was never vetted for anything and has been given a free pass on EVERYTHING.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-31   18:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Ferret Mike (#42)

I answered your question. You just didn't like the answer. You found one black Paultard. Good for you. It means nothing. You make baseless smears against Cain' cause he aint with the Plantation. Better break out those bullwhips.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-31   18:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: no gnu taxes (#44)

So your "points" are complete bullshit, like always.

You're a truly pathetic little pile of shit, paddy. Truly pathetic.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-31   18:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Skip Intro (#46)

Here are some details of the allegations of sexual assault and rape by Bill Clinton of 30 women.

(1) JULIA BROADDRICK -- RAPE --

NBC National News, March 28, 1998:

"The explosive new allegation tonight is that President Clinton sexually assaulted a woman 20 years ago in Arkansas. It involves an alleged encounter at this Little Rock hotel in the late 1970s, between then Attorney General Bill Clinton and campaign worker, Juanita Broaddrick ... "

Feb 20, 1999, papers around the country detailed the Broaddrick charges, that Clinton bit her lip until she gave in, when he ripped her panties off and raped her.

She then appeared on Dateline NBC, Feb 24, 1999, and detailed her rape by Bill Clinton.

Broadrick detailed how Clinton brutually raped her and NBC and others have interviewed the nurse who put ice on her mouth immediately after the rape, as well as three others with knowledge of the rape. They also checked out 80 sources to confirm the facts. They all checked out.

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(2) Limo incident -- RAPE --

This incident was called in by the mother of the victim. The mother described how her daughter went with Clinton in a limo to a party and was forcibly raped by Bill Clinton when he was govenor.

source: newsmax.com and Fox News

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(3) Eileen Wellstone, Oxford Student -- RAPE --

A 1969 charge by a 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University campus where the future President was a student. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed this that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case because they did not want to go after a Rhodes scholar.

In an interview with Capitol Hill Blue, the retired State Department employee said he believed the story of the young English woman who said Clinton raped her in 1969.

"There was no doubt in my mind that this young woman had suffered severe emotional trauma," he said. "But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes Scholar charged with rape. I filed a report with my superiors and that was the last I heard of it."

source: Capitol Hill Blue

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(4) KATHLEEN WILLEY -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

Kathleen Willey told her story on CBS in 1998. She detailed how Clinton, without consent, groped her.

Also see http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/PoliticalNation/pn_990129.html

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(5) PAULA JONES -- SEXUAL HARASSMENT --

You know about Paula Jones.

Clinton's settlement is a de facto admission of sexual assault and sexual harassment, albeit not in the legal sense, but practically speaking. Nonetheless, Jones "wins", and thus Clinton probably did what Jones said he did otherwise he should not have paid her off.

Sources: all of them

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(6) ELIZABETH WARD -- RAPE --

Elizabeth Ward was in the Washington Post. There are some allegations of a "date-rape". Later she claimed it was consensual. But she first told her friends that Bill Clinton, as governor, attacked her and forced himself on her.

Elizabeth Ward Gracen, former Miss America, against testifying for Paula Jones that she had sexual affair with Clinton in 1983. http://www.nypost.com/news/6138.htm

Did Clinton threats keep her from pressing charges?

She was Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982. She told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen, told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. She later recanted that interview and said had been threatened by Clinton supporters into claiming the sex was consensual.

other source: newsmax.com

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(7) Yale student -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, who was a law student at the college. No charges were filed.

source: Capitol Hill Blue

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(8) University Arkansas student -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him and she left the school shortly after the incident.

source: Capitol Hill Blue

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(9) "JANE DOE #?" -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

This Jane Doe alleged groping only.

source: Jones lawsuit

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(10) CRISTY ZERCHER -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

Cristy Zercher was reported in several papers and on TV. She alleges that on an airplane flight the president groped her while others were asleep.

source: New York Post

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(11) KATHY BRADSHAW -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

Kathy Bradshaw was abused and she told a friend. She was subpoenaed in the Paula Jones case.

Source: Jones lawsuit

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(12) DEBBY -- ASSAULT --

Debby was a prostitute. She was badly beaten. Arkansas state troopers had to pull Clinton off of her. She was subpoenaed in the Paula Jones case.

source: Jones lawsuit

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(13) Sandra Jones, Clinton fundraiser -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

A former Washington, DC, political fundraiser, Sandra Jones says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. The woman has since married and left Washington.

Capitol Hill Blue also spoke with the former Washington fundraiser who confirmed the incident, but said she would not go public because anyone who does so is destroyed by the Clinton White House.

"My husband and children deserve better than that," she said.

source: Capitol Hill Blue

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(14) Carolyn Moffit, secretary -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

Carolyn was a legal secretary for Clinton while he was governor of Arkansas. He sat their with no pants on and ask her to kiss it. She refused. He grabbed her and attempted to force her to give him oral sex, but she escaped from the room.

Source: Capitol Hill Blue

(15) Kathy Ferguson (dead) -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

Kathy Ferguson was the ex-wife of one of Clinton's body guards when he was governor of Arkansas. According to Sam Houstan, a person who knew Kathy well, she stated that she had been sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton when he was governor of Arkansas

Source: newsmax.com

(16) a "drunk" "Jane Doe" -- RAPE --

This one is an account where Clinton is alleged to have raped this woman while she was too drunk to resist. She blames herself for being too drunk.

Source: newsmax.com

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(17) JONES' JANE DONE #? -- RAPE --

"A young woman lawyer in Little Rock claimed that she was accosted by Clinton while he was attorney general and that when she recoiled he forced himself on her, biting and bruising her. Deeply affected by the assault, the woman decided to keep it all quiet for the sake of her own hard won career and that of her husband. When the husband later saw Clinton at the 1980 Democratic Convention, he delivered a warning. ‘If you ever approach her,' he told the governor, 'I'll kill you.' Not even seeing fit to deny the incident, Bill Clinton sheepishly apologized and duly promised never to bother her again." [page 238, "Partners in Power” (Roger Morris)]

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(18) different Juanita "Doe" -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

Another woman was assaulted similar to the Jones incident.

Source: ABC's "This Week with Sam and Cokie."

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(19-21) 3 Secret Service agents -- SEXUAL HARASSMENT --

Three female Secret Service agents are said to have filed complaints because Clinton "hit on them". One asked for and received a transfer out of the White House.

Source: Star Magazine

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(22) wife of top Clinton aide -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

According to this account the president once pinned her against the wall, ignoring her protests, as he ran his hands over her body -- virtually a carbon copy of the Oval Office groping episode described last year by Kathleen Willey.

Source: Star Magazine

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(23) 14-yr old "party-goer" -- STATUTORY RAPE --

At a party, where concaine and other drugs were used, a 14-year old girl was "doped up". She lost consciousness and when she woke, she found Bill Clinton on top raping her.

Source: newsmax.com

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(24-30) women -- 7 SEXUAL ASSAULTS --

From 1976-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually.

source: Capitol Hill Blue

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(31) daughter, Jane Doe -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

Another mother reported her daughter was assaulted to Jones investigators.

source: WABC, Drudge

There are some 275 witnesses interviewed concerning the actual assaults, 208 by Paula Jones investigators.

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(32-34) 3 Oxford students -- SEXUAL ASSAULT --

Security at Oxford reported that 3 students filed complaints about Bill Clinton touching them a manner that was unwelcome, groping them that is.

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Now what did Cain do?

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-10-31   18:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: no gnu taxes (#47)

Got me, paddy, but we'll sure find out.

What's hilarious is that this goof is never going to get the nomination anyway, so this is just light entertainment.

Have you bothered to listen to him? He's a joke, just like Palin and Bachmann.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-31   18:54:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: no gnu taxes (#45)

"Better break out those bullwhips."

I'd be happy to. But only if I could rip your skin to ribbons with it and then stick it so far up your ass a proctologist would need a crowbar to pry it out.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-31   18:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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