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It is also a federal felony to claim to be a Medal of Honor winner if you're not.
See this story to see why that's not true - yet.
I believe it has been a federal felony for decades now. I think what has happened here is that he was changed under the wrong charges. The original charges are probably unknown to the prosecutor who only knows of the 2005 Stolen Valor Act.
And no,I don't remember the title of the original offense.
The way it was explained to be about impersonating a serving officer being a federal felony is because serving officers have the right (not to mention duty) of carrying loaded firearms anywhere they go,and they can't be arrested for it because if Martial Law were declared they would be the ones who became the local LEO's and Sheriffs until order was restored. If they did not have this legal right they could be arrested by local LEO's for violating local ordinances.
IIRC,this goes back to Colonial Days.
Which means chances are nobody has ever been charged under this stature in the last 200 years.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
No,it wasn't. It wasn't even a department. It was nothing more than a code name,and even the code name changed all the time. Venona was the code name in use with the files were made public,so they became known as the Venona Files.
You're challenging my knowledge of WWII history?
Yowzah...
But, you got me, Venona it was indeed a WWII MID project,
Ok,so you WERE talking about the HUAC lists,and blaming a US Senator for them.
I wasn't blaming McCarthy for anything other than using the HUAC lists that, as you know, were already in existence.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
C'mon Sneak...do I REALLY need to post that pic of MacArthur giving orders for attack on the Bonus Army?
Of course not,but the Emperor was above such things as actually mingling with common soldiers. He told Ike to get it done,and it was Ike that was on the ground and giving the orders for the attack to proceed.
This means it was Ike leading the attack by ordering Patton to proceed.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Eisenhower was nothing more than a overpaid clerk. As far as I know the only really good thing he did personally his whole life was remind everybody to "beware of the military-industrial complex" on his way out the WH door. That doesn't make up for him leading the raid on the Bonus Marchers,though. Which is the closest this General ever got to combat.
Background: Born the third of seven sons in Denison, Texas to David Jacob Eisenhower and Ida Elizabeth Stover. His father was an Engineer while his mother was a devoted follower and supporter of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah's Witnesses). The family home served as the local meeting hall for the group from 1896 to 1915. The constant and regular exposure of Eisenhower to End of the World imagery mixed with Bible prophecy by the Jehovah's Witnesses had a profound impact on him throughout his life. While he was never a gifted student, nor known for his intellect, his fascination in occult and religious power placed him more than once midst powerful men, who assisted his career. Dwight graduated from High School around 1909 at the age of 19. He then took a night shift labouring job at the Belle Springs Creamery. In 1911, Eisenhower attempted to apply for the Naval Academy but failed the basic entrance exam. In later years, his record was changed to claim he passed, but was somehow ineligible on account of his age, even though he qualified under the age limit at the time. Later that year (1911), powerful US Senator for Kansas Joseph L. Bristow used his influence to get Eisenhower into West Point Military Academy. The motivation for this act and how he came to know Eisenhower has never been properly explained. At Westpoint Eisenhower again he showed mediocre academic skills, but managed to scrape through and graduate. Unlike most of his fellow graduates, Eisenhower never saw action in World War I. Instead, he spent the first few years with the National Guard and then assigned to various new tank corps where he met General Fox Conner. He had the dubious honor of having his temporary rank of Major being revoked and being demoted back to Captain by 1922. When General Conner was appointed Camp Gaillard, Panama and the Panama Canal Zone, he made Eisenhower his executive officer - a role he held from 1922 until 1924. It was under the guidance of General Conner that Eisenhower found a grounding in essential military strategy and politics. After finishing his term with Conner, Eisenhower was promoted again to Major and attended the Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth. His career then stagnated for five years until in 1929 he was appointed Executive Assistant to General George Moseley, then Secretary of War. In 1933, he was then appointed chief military aide to General Douglas MacArthur and accompanied him to the Philippines. It was through MacArthur that Eisenhower first came to the attention of the all-powerful American Jesuit Fr. Edmund A. Walsh. MacArthur was educated by the Jesuits and Walsh was his influential patron. Eisenhower quickly became an even more deeply devoted fan of Fr. Walsh and his geopolitical mind than his superior General MacArthur. At the outbreak of World War II in 1939, Eisenhower returned from the Philippines at 49 but a Lt. Colonel. By June 1941, six months before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, Col. Eisenhower was appointed to the War Department General Staff in Washington D.C. and to a role holding the temporary rank of Brigadier General. Whatever his role in the events leading up to Pearl Harbor, he soon held favor with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, another staunch supporter of Fr. Edmund A. Walsh S.J. In December 1943, President Roosevelt announced Eisenhower, still then only officially holding the rank of Colonel would be the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, being promoted immediately to being a four star Major General - one of the most dramatic rise in promotions in American history. The announcement sent shockwaves through the US and even the Allied forces as Eisenhower was promoted over the heads of over fifty seasoned military leaders, including his former friend and mentor Douglas MacArthur - all of whom had far greater skill and merit. Upon his arrival in England in 1943, a controversial claim has been made that Eisenhower received a communique from senior members of the SS offering clear and specific terms of unconditional surrender of all German forces, including the assassination of Hitler, if the Americans would help halt the Soviet advance into Central Europe. Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion. In 1944, Eisenhower was confirmed as a Five Star General and Chief of the Army. In spite of the massive logistical superiority of the Allied forces, the Eisenhower D-Day plan very nearly failed. Again, during the Battle of the Bulge Eisenhower inexplicably ordered the halt of the encirclement of German forces enabling up to 150,000 to escape and prolonging the war a further twelve months. No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union. One man that did know the truth was Gen. George Smith Patton. On December 9th 1945, the day before he was due to fly back to Washington to meet with President Truman with proof that Eisenhower was a traitor who had costs the lives of thousands of American soldiers and millions of civilians, he was seriously injured in a road accident near Mannheim, Germany on 9 Dec 1945 (dying in hospital 21 December 1945). Miraculously the other occupants of the car in which Patton was critically injured escaped unharmed. To counter the claims and rumour mills, Eisenhower authorised the leak of stories to damage the character of Patton including blaming Patton for the escape of the 150,000 soldiers of the German army and that Patton was mentally unstable. These false rumours still persist today.
However, there can be no doubt about the direct orders of Eisenhower in Operation Keelhaul- the repatriation of over two million former Russian prisoners of war to Joseph Stalin. While the actions of Eisenhower have always been maintained as a fact of life following the Yalta Agreement between Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt, the manner and clear fate of these poor souls was nothing short of Genocide on the same level as Adolf Hitler and the SS. [Article excerpt end]
Parrot: The above article is from a website which peels the layers on leaders who have been prominent figures in Globalism from WW-1 onwards. While the Vatican/Jesuits do not Run the NWO,...they are...and certain Jesuits like Edmund Walsh,...have been guides..steering from behind the curtain.
Father Walsh with General Douglas MacArthur in Tokyo, 1948 Since WW-2 and the emergence of the IMF/World Bank,and the various thinktank groups/councils...like the CFR,The 300 Committee,Bilderbergs, Vatican/Jesuit influence has been passed off to these.
Fascinating; as this common epithet for a fuckwit like you discribes you well.
I had not expected you to understand my lifelong love of my personal metaphor for the country I am from and love. Old Ironsides never lost a battle. She inspired the citizens of this country to ave her when she reached old age and faced a normal death for a wooden ship.
Children sent their pennies to keep her with us, and she is still strong, beautiful; a piece of living poetry and heart song chiseled from live oak and iron.
I go to her and always remember why I love this place, the United States.
Nothing I am can say is going to change your delusions of grandeur regarding your own high impression of yourself, or change the mission you have to make this other then a game where you seek to drive those you hate from here.
This comprehension of your motives, what you are, and how this place is likely an outlet to relieve pressure from elements of your live causing you stress or a lack of control makes me beyond you ability to affect me.
I am enjoying watching the show, and want you to keep this up. Keep on showing us what you are and what stuff you are made of Erica.
Your tail chasing doesn't mean squat to me. ;-)
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
#295. To: Parrot with speed dial, snrakypete (#292)
The above article is from a website which peels the layers on leaders who have been prominent figures in Globalism from WW-1 onwards. While the Vatican/Jesuits do not Run the NWO,...they are...and certain Jesuits like Edmund Walsh,...have been guides..steering from behind the curtain.
IIRC Denison Texas had no documented recording of Ike's birth there and it wasn't until many years later that Mamie put the info together and had his father sign it.
But it's still fun to see ol sneaky just makin' shit up. For just being an overpaid clerk, that Eisenhower was sure busy making history.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
It is also a federal felony to claim to be a Medal of Honor winner if you're not.
See this story to see why that's not true - yet.
The Stolen Valor Act (18 U.S.C. §704) was revised in 2005. This revised version was ruled unconstitutional by the 9th Circuit in 2010. As noted, the Supreme Court has granted cert to hear the case sometime in 2012.
An infraction pertaining to the Medal of Honor provided for imprisonment for not more than one year. A federal felony is subject to imprisonment in excess of one year. The statute would only establish a misdemeanor.
The Act, as presently drafted, applies to pure speech; it imposes a criminal penalty of up to a year of imprisonment, plus a fine, for the mere utterance or writing of what is, or may be perceived as, a false statement of factwithout anything more.
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The rule the government and dissent urge us to apply in order to uphold the Act would, if adopted, significantly enlarge the scope of existing categorical exceptions to First Amendment protection. All previous circumstances in which lies have been found proscribable involve not just knowing falsity, but additional elements that serve to narrow what speech may be punished. Indeed, if the Act is constitutional under the analysis proffered by Judge Bybee, then there would be no constitutional bar to criminalizing lying about ones height, weight, age, or financial status on Match.com or Facebook, or falsely representing to ones mother that one does not smoke, drink alcoholic beverages, is a virgin, or has not exceeded the speed limit while driving on the freeway. The sad fact is, most people lie about some aspects of their lives from time to time. Perhaps, in context, many of these lies are within the governments legitimate reach. But the government cannot decide that some lies may not be told without a reviewing courts undertaking a thoughtful analysis of the constitutional concerns raised by such government interference with speech.
Finding no appropriate way to avoid the First Amendment question Alvarez poses, we hold that the speech proscribed by the Act is not sufficiently confined to fit among the narrow categories of false speech previously held to be beyond the First Amendments protective sweep. We then apply strict scrutiny review to the Act, and hold it unconstitutional because it is not narrowly tailored to achieving a compelling governmental interest.
In December 1943, President Roosevelt announced Eisenhower, still then only officially holding the rank of Colonel would be the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, being promoted immediately to being a four star Major General - one of the most dramatic rise in promotions in American history. The announcement sent shockwaves through the US and even the Allied forces as Eisenhower was promoted over the heads of over fifty seasoned military leaders, including his former friend and mentor Douglas MacArthur - all of whom had far greater skill and merit.
As much as it pains me to say this,this was a brilliant move by King Franklin. Eisenhower was the perfect man for that slot. While he was never much of anything as a soldier,he was a superb politician,and a politician is what that job needed,not a strategic and tactical military mind. What King Franklin (and the world) needed in that position was a man that could sooth the egos of some pretty massive prima donnas like Patton,Montgomery,and DeGaulle,and get them to work together. I suspect herding cats would have been a task easier to accomplish.
Can you imagine the nightmare that Patton or Dougout Doug would have created if they had been appointed to that position?
And that WAS Eisenhower's job in the ETO. King Franklin had the JCS to plan strategy. What he needed in England was a "Yes Man" that would follow orders and play nice with others. He got that in Ike.
Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion.
Anybody that thinks it was Eisenhower made that decision is either ignorant of how the army works,or is delusional. That decision was made in the WH and at the Pentagram in the office of the JCS.
To counter the claims and rumour mills, Eisenhower authorised the leak of stories to damage the character of Patton including blaming Patton for the escape of the 150,000 soldiers of the German army and that Patton was mentally unstable.
Patton WAS mentally unstable. I have talked with soldiers that served under him in WW-2,and they were all in agreement that he was both insane and a asshole. One of these men was childhood friends of my parents that was drafted in WW-2,and ended up winning a DSC and battlefield promotion in North Africa,ending up as a 1st Lt and Armor platoon leader.
BTW,being mentally unstable doesn't mean he was wrong when it came to how to win the war and the danger of the Soviets,though.
No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union.
Once again,that decision was above his paygrade. It was made in the WH by King Franklin,who was looking out for his Soviet buddies. That's the way it works in America. The President makes the decisions,and the military salutes and says "Yes Sir!"
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
An infraction pertaining to the Medal of Honor provided for imprisonment for not more than one year. A federal felony is subject to imprisonment in excess of one year. The statute would only establish a misdemeanor.
I stand corrected. Thanks.
At least technically. The few cases I know of where someone has gone to jail for falsely claiming a MoH always involved profiting from that claim. Which would make it a fraud and a felony. Telling your neighbor you earned a MoH is one thing. Telling audiences on speaking tours or using those credentials in order to establish your "legend" in order to promote your business and get contracts is something altogether different.
Finding no appropriate way to avoid the First Amendment question Alvarez poses, we hold that the speech proscribed by the Act is not sufficiently confined to fit among the narrow categories of false speech previously held to be beyond the First Amendments protective sweep.
Alvarez was wrong to compare claims of earning a MoH to simple everyday lying,and you would have to be blind to not see it.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Have YOU ever read one with a coach nearby to explain them to you?
You know,somebody capable of having a actual thought that MIGHT be willing to put up with you?
There are reasons why people are Dims,ranging from shallow gene pools to fetal alcohol syndrome,being dropped on the head a lot,being given acid instead of children's aspirin while a child,etc,etc,etc.
I keep wondering what your story is.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Have YOU ever read one with a coach nearby to explain them to you?
You know,somebody capable of having a actual thought that MIGHT be willing to put up with you?
There are reasons why people are Dims,ranging from shallow gene pools to fetal alcohol syndrome,being dropped on the head a lot,being given acid instead of children's aspirin while a child,etc,etc,etc.
#308. To: sneakypete, Parrot with speed dial (#297)
As much as it pains me to say this,this was a brilliant move by King Franklin. Eisenhower was the perfect man for that slot. While he was never much of anything as a soldier,he was a superb politician,and a politician is what that job needed,not a strategic and tactical military mind. What King Franklin (and the world) needed in that position was a man that could sooth the egos of some pretty massive prima donnas like Patton,Montgomery,and DeGaulle,and get them to work together. I suspect herding cats would have been a task easier to accomplish.
Can you imagine the nightmare that Patton or Dougout Doug would have created if they had been appointed to that position?
And that WAS Eisenhower's job in the ETO. King Franklin had the JCS to plan strategy. What he needed in England was a "Yes Man" that would follow orders and play nice with others. He got that in Ike.
I agree - FDR needed a babysitter. Ike's role was performed perfectly.
Oddly enough, by the time Ike became President, the role of President seemed more like a figure head and puppet of the Elite puppetmeisters.
As you've pointed out, Ike gave his warning about the "military-industrial complex" - he was signaling it wasn't he as President who was pulling the strings.
#310. To: Parrot with speed dial, sneakypete (#292)
Upon his arrival in England in 1943, a controversial claim has been made that Eisenhower received a communique from senior members of the SS offering clear and specific terms of unconditional surrender of all German forces, including the assassination of Hitler, if the Americans would help halt the Soviet advance into Central Europe.
Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion.
In 1944, Eisenhower was confirmed as a Five Star General and Chief of the Army. In spite of the massive logistical superiority of the Allied forces, the Eisenhower D-Day plan very nearly failed. Again, during the Battle of the Bulge Eisenhower inexplicably ordered the halt of the encirclement of German forces enabling up to 150,000 to escape and prolonging the war a further twelve months. No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union.
One man that did know the truth was Gen. George Smith Patton. On December 9th 1945, the day before he was due to fly back to Washington to meet with President Truman with proof that Eisenhower was a traitor who had costs the lives of thousands of American soldiers and millions of civilians, he was seriously injured in a road accident near Mannheim, Germany on 9 Dec 1945 (dying in hospital 21 December 1945).
Fascinating stuff.
Were there any witnesses or any documentation of the supposed German surrender terms from 1943?
There's no question that Ike, FDR, his Commie overlords or whomever sandbagged the advance of the US military and sabotaged our own efforts by the end of WWII.
Cutting a deal with Stalin and the American Commies did NOT work out well; It should have been ridiculed by everyone at the time. So for all Patton's mouthy warnings and loathing of the Soviets, HE was right, and FDR was wrong. He smelled the stench of rot from DC and had had it. Some things never change...
Btw, a program has been running on the History Channel (I believe) where three historical researchers explore the mystery of Patton's odd death in depth, speaking to those who'd known Patton - as well as his grand-daughter. They even traveled to the US Army Medical Hospital in Heidelberg, Germany.
Of course after speaking to Army personnel, they conclude it to be purely "accidental," just like the "official" report. I was shocked. /s
Fascinating; as this common epithet for a fuckwit like you discribes you well.
Oh, goody.
An upscale version of "I know you are, but what am I?"
This is what passes for leftist intellect, eh?
Feh.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Sorry, Junior, but Boofer has already beaten you to the Irony of The Day award...
His prize winning entry was laughing at someone - me - being accused of posting on political websites 24/7. The accusation was leveled by the owner here, who should have won in his own right, or to be ironic *chuckles* myself, write but management and employees are ineligible for prizes.
Please feel free to submit a new entry in our daily Irony of the Day contest tomorrow...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Fascinating; as this common epithet for a fuckwit like you discribes you well.
Oh, goody.
An upscale version of "I know you are, but what am I?"
This is what passes for leftist intellect, eh?
Feh.
So no proof of your assertion about Mike... Day 2.
You need to go back to reading your fairy tales about Good Knights versus Bad Knights, but first get those nasty commies that are hiding under your bed... out, before the guards do the cell checks for contraband.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
So no proof of your assertion about Mike... Day 2.
YOU wanted me to prove that you're a liar, and I DID.
8^)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Sorry, Junior, but Boofer has already beaten you to the Irony of The Day award...
Actually, YOU are the winner...
Claiming to be "a broker," while not knowing SHIT about economics!!!
I have to admit, THAT made me laugh.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
See my previous statement about being too late to claim The Irony of the Day award...I did appreciate the hearty laugh that you gave me last night when you claimed that decreasing revenues while increasing spending did not cause debt.
Thanks...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
See my previous statement about being too late to claim The Irony of the Day award...I did appreciate the hearty laugh that you gave me last night when you claimed that decreasing revenues while increasing spending did not cause debt.
I bet you're not taking an advanced degree from Glenn Beck University like Erica is, are you?
Capitalist Eric: Claiming to be "a broker," dummy Dwarf: I'm not claiming anything, Junior. I am.
Yeah, and responsible for $12K of revenue in what, 6 hours? LMAO. You pat yourself on the back for doing such a piddley-ass job...
What' the net, boy? Gross revenues don't mean sh!t.
I did appreciate the hearty laugh that you gave me last night when you claimed that decreasing revenues while increasing spending did not cause debt.
Please provide the EXACT quote where I said that.
Oh, BTW, your failure to do so will be taken as admission (by you), that you're a lying POS.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
YOU wanted me to prove that you're a liar, and I DID.
8^)
Then where's you email correspondence with Goldi? Plus the evidence for your claims against Mike? There were two parts to the equation and you failed to fulfill either.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
You challenged me to prove that you're a liar, and I DID.
8^)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
POS: I did appreciate the hearty laugh that you gave me last night when you claimed that decreasing revenues while increasing spending did not cause debt. Capitalist Eric: Please provide the EXACT quote where I said that. POS: It [debt] isn't due to the tax cuts AT ALL. The data I posted makes that VERY clear.
The ACTUAL conversation included the following:
As of January, 2010, our existing national debt- NET of projected tax receipts over the next 50 years- is $200 TRILLION. This includes: Social Security ($17,500,000,000,000.00, $17.5 trillion) Medicare Part A ($36,700,000,000,000.00, $36.7 trillion) Medicare Part B ($37,000,000,000,000.00, $37 trillion) Medicare Part D ($15,600,000,000,000 underfunded, $15.6 trillion) Government and military pensions ($2,000,000,000,000, $2 trillion), etc.
You get the idea. We're bankrupt, because government made SPENDING promises it could not hope to actually fulfill. Instead, they promised goodies in return for votes. ...... According to the Federal Reserves most recent report on wealth, Americas private net worth was $53.4 trillion as of September, 2009. But at the same time, Americas debt and unfunded liabilities totaled at least $120,000,000,000,000.00 ($120 trillion), or 225% of the citizens net worth. Even if the government expropriated every dollar of private wealth in the nation, it would still have a deficit of $66,600,000,000,000.00 ($66.6 trillion), equal to $214,286.00 for every man, woman and child in America and roughly 500% of GDP. If the government does not directly seize the nations private wealth, then it will require $389,610 from each and every citizen to balance the countrys books. State, county and municipal debts and deficits are additional, already elephantine in many states (e.g., California, Illinois, New Jersey and New York) and growing at an alarming rate nationwide. In addition to the federal government, dozens of states are already bankrupt and sinking deeper into the morass every day. ...... ...If the government decides to expropriate (steal) or commandeer (e.g., force into Treasuries) Americas private wealth in order to buy survival time, such a measure will be designed to destroy the common citizens, not the elite. Insiders will be given advance warning about any such plan, and will be able to transfer their money offshore or into financial vehicles immune from harm. Assuming that the elite moves its money to safety, there would then be $120,000,000,000,000.00 ($120 trillion) in American debt and liabilities supported by only $32,000,000,000,000.00 ($32 trillion) in private net worth, for a deficit of $88,000,000,000,000.00 ($88 trillion). In that case, each American would owe $285,714.29 to balance the countrys books. (Remember to multiply this amount by every person in your household, including any infant children.)
...If the common people suspect that something diabolical was in the works, a portion of the $32 trillion in non-elite wealth could be evacuated as well prior to a government expropriation and/or currency devaluation, resulting in less money for the government to steal. What these statistics mean is that it is absolutely impossible for the government to fund its debt and deficits, even if it steals all of the nations private wealth. Therefore, the governments only solutions are either formal bankruptcy (outright debt repudiation and the dismantling of bankrupt government programs) or unprecedented American monetary inflation and debt monetization. If the government chooses to inflate its way out of this fiscal catastrophe, the United States dollar will essentially become worthless.
I provided the data that SHOWS it's a spending problem, not a tax problem, and you twist it into a complete lie.
Translation: You can't provide the exact quote, so YOU'RE LYING YOUR ASS OFF AGAIN.
Oh, there's something ELSE I wrote, that you have now confirmed:
You want to keep believing the bullshit about "soak the rich," then fine, you go ahead and swallow those lies.
But at the end of the day, they're just lies, and you KNOW it.
So don't give me your sh!t about how you give a crap about the little people, and what "fair" is all about... Because you're not about that...
You're all about YOU.
Being a broker, and promoting the status quo, I was spot-on, when I said that... It really is ALL ABOUT YOU. It's all about lining your POCKETS...
You are truly despicable.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--