Title: Who gives shit if Godwinson post here again? Source:
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I thought his posts added to the discussion. And I agree that the headlines/posts that are racial in nature from folks no NGT and HQ will turn most folks off from visiting the site.
I regularly brush off asshole, dumb ass, dummy, racist, nazi, etc.
Someone did suggest some other stuff a week or so ago. I did something about that. So it is inaccurate to say I am immune from criticism.
Do I always get it right. Certainly not. I am biased.
You want me to post that whole thread where you and all your 'conservative values loving' pack of jackals were sicced on me and then Tull stalked me from thread to thread with narey a whimper from poor little 'First Amendment lover' you. Then I was banned after he posted a picture displaying permabanned in big letters?
I believe it started when I voiced my opinion about corporate personhood, which you changed and then deleted after my comment made about you changing it.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
I would. He is a idiot and a leftist shill,but he doesn't even pretend to be anything else,so what can he hurt?
Let him back. His viewpoints need to be expressed so that those of us who are conservatives have a constant reminder of the threat we face.
In this way he is actually providing a public service by posting.
Besides,a wise man (me) once said "We are either all free,or none of us are free."
We should all be free to express political opinions,regardless of how repulsive others may think these ideas are. It's a part of what makes us Americans.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
We should all be free to express political opinions,regardless of how repulsive others may think these ideas are. It's a part of what makes us Americans.
You ought to post that to Goldi, then wait to see what happens to you.
EVERYBODY pisses somebody off. If you're not pissing people off,you are not expressing your true opinions.
Despite evidence to the contrary,especially when dealing with political opinions,humans are NOT drones or androids that are programmed to think alike. We all have varied opinions on varied subjects,and there is and will never be another human you are in agreement with on every issue.
The key is to not take differing opinions personally. Just because somebody has a different opinion than you on a political issue doesn't mean they are evil. It may just mean they are misinformed but sincere.
It may even mean that YOU are misinformed but sincere.
Arguing the merits of your position against the merits of the opinions of people who disagree with you is a way to educate both of you on the others viewpoint and why they think that way.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
You've got mcgowanjm posting to Robin's site now. Way to go champ.
Fred,Stone,was he banned,or did he just decide to vacate on his own?
What are the chances of getting him back? Yeah,he is so wrong politically that he is off the "wrong" scale,but he is still a very intelligent guy that has interesting things to say about economics.
Plus he posts his opinions and is prepared to debate them. I will never agree with him politically,but I could see myself having a cup of coffee and a good discussion with him in person.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Fred,Stone,was he banned,or did he just decide to vacate on his own?
I doubt he was banned here. He's over on the-peoples-forum this morning going ape shit over Libya and the spoils of that battle. I always enjoy reading his stuff, at least the parts I can decipher.
Makeup can seriously alter images,but there has to be some photo manipulation in that one. There is no way a girl with a head that big can have a neck that tiny.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
I always enjoy reading his stuff, at least the parts I can decipher.
LOL! Yeah,I know what you mean. I took some Economics classes in college and did well,but that's been several decades,and I have had other interests since then.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
It is special effects. She is Tim Burton's Queen of Hearts in his Alice in Wonderland movie that came out a year or so ago. She gave a very funny and enjoyable performance, though naturally the sweet young thing who played Alice was far far more interesting to watch as in this movie it was her returning to Wonderland years later as a young woman.
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
I'll send him a Private Message. I did ping him to this thread and he's pretty good on checking his pings. He'll be back here soon. I was kind of yanking Stone's chain because, for whatever reason, he hates Robin's forum with a passion.
#39. To: Happy Quanzaa, sneakypete, A K A Stone, Ferret Mike (#14)
Godwinson is stupid on steroids, the poster boy for all dumbass LF libtard posters. He's good to have around to show just how stupid libtards are.
But aren't there already enough dumbass libtard posters represented at LF as it is?? You've got a good 10 of them here. More than that, there is no real debate with any of these clowns...with Ferret being the lone exception.
Moreover, how much Commie-Leftist propaganda is enough?
We should all be free to express political opinions,regardless of how repulsive others may think these ideas are. It's a part of what makes us Americans.
It's a compelling thought...
But at what point is Communism, Unionism, Police-Statism, and Racist-Hoodism a danger to the rest of us?
The problem: When the above "isms" become a majority, they become oppressive and fascist.
You are the only forum owner I'm aware of that tolerates being told to 'fuck off' 'suck my dick' 'you are an asshole' 'the site runs better when you aren't here' etc etc etc.
Every thread here degenerates to that eventually, at least the ones you happen to post on. As such, yep, the site is sliding downhill faster with each passing week. Combined with your allowing some to use it for personal attack threads, or racial bullshit...it comes down to a simple question: Why bother with LF? You don't give a shit how it looks. You don't give a shit how these kooks talk trash to YOU for God's sake. Which is why even that idiot Goldi gets more respect than you do in her kooky forum. Or JR at Free Republic, or mystery over at GBR.
You aren't promoting 'freedom of speech' by allowing this crap, Stone. You simply promote your site isn't to be taken seriously, because nobody here takes YOU seriously. I drop by every day, but honestly, there hasn't been anything here worth commenting on for the past couple of weeks.
Its your site, Stone. but the reason it hasn't grown is because you haven't 'grown' as a site owner/operator. This isn't about politics, or anything else, as much as it is kooks talking shit behind absurd screen names in ways they'd NEVER do in the real world. Basically, its a fantasyland for losers that have been banned from legitimate sites for the obvious reasons.
As for 'godwincing' posters come, posters go. The rep of the site is what you should be worrying about. Thats the only 'constant' you have any influence over. So far, this site is just as amaturishly run as it was when I signed up.
And thats the problem...unless you enjoy being humiliated, taunted, and insulted by people on the internet. Maybe you do. I honestly don't get it, but its your site. Like the song says, you can't always have what you want, but you get what you need, eh?
#48. To: calcon, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, Get Outta Dodge!, CZ82, jwpegler, Rudgear, Capitalist Eric, A K A Stone, Thunderbird, Mad Dog, Murron, e_type_jag, Badeye, Parrot with speed dial, nolu chan, Sebastian, We The People, hondo68 (#45)
YES, godwinson is a left wing as you can get, but what's a forum without opposing views
I think there are plenty of conservatives and libertarians who disagree with each other and opposed respective views....
Should the debate be about promoting the right direction of the country, OR, humoring the Commie blitzkrieg and agenda of Leftist propaganda? Of course it can also be considered an intellectual blood sport.
The problem with Commies and Leftists at a forum is their lack of logic, un-willingness to exchange cogent, honest thought and debate, and un-willingness to deviate from their hardened dogma.
It's not so much a "debate" for these folks as it is about spamming a forum with Commie/Leftist propaganda.
QUESTION: When was the last meaningful "debate" between LF's House Commies vs. Conservatives/Libertarians? Leftist do NOT want to debate because the truth is never on their side. That's why all they do is obfuscate, create red herrings, and lie.
You are the only forum owner I'm aware of that tolerates being told to 'fuck off' 'suck my dick' 'you are an asshole' 'the site runs better when you aren't here' etc etc etc.
Every thread here degenerates to that eventually, at least the ones you happen to post on. As such, yep, the site is sliding downhill faster with each passing week. Combined with your allowing some to use it for personal attack threads, or racial bullshit...it comes down to a simple question: Why bother with LF? You don't give a shit how it looks. You don't give a shit how these kooks talk trash to YOU for God's sake. Which is why even that idiot Goldi gets more respect than you do in her kooky forum. Or JR at Free Republic, or mystery over at GBR.
You aren't promoting 'freedom of speech' by allowing this crap, Stone. You simply promote your site isn't to be taken seriously, because nobody here takes YOU seriously. I drop by every day, but honestly, there hasn't been anything here worth commenting on for the past couple of weeks.
Its your site, Stone. but the reason it hasn't grown is because you haven't 'grown' as a site owner/operator. This isn't about politics, or anything else, as much as it is kooks talking shit behind absurd screen names in ways they'd NEVER do in the real world. Basically, its a fantasyland for losers that have been banned from legitimate sites for the obvious reasons.
As for 'godwincing' posters come, posters go. The rep of the site is what you should be worrying about. Thats the only 'constant' you have any influence over. So far, this site is just as amaturishly run as it was when I signed up.
And thats the problem...unless you enjoy being humiliated, taunted, and insulted by people on the internet. Maybe you do. I honestly don't get it, but its your site. Like the song says, you can't always have what you want, but you get what you need, eh?
Seeya round.
+1.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
"The problem with Commies and Leftists at a forum is their lack of logic, un-willingness to exchange cogent, honest thought and debate, and un-willingness to deviate from their hardened dogma."
This is your hardened dogma which as little touch with reality you are unwilling to debate.
It suits your purposes to treat people whom you label as unwilling and incapable of change. You speak of people who are left of you politically as if they were automatons cut from the same cookie cutter.
When in fact, people are people. Everyone agrees with everyone else on some things and disagrees on others. Yyou repete your mantra I speak of over and over, and this is meant to shut down debate, to label and damn whomever you don't like politically. And thus in this regard you are often an eye roller of a bore.
You really need to get another shtick, vick.
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
#57. To: Badeye, A K A Stone, LF's House Commies aka Hypocrites (#46)
You are the only forum owner I'm aware of that tolerates being told to 'fuck off' 'suck my dick' 'you are an asshole' 'the site runs better when you aren't here' etc etc etc.
Amen, BE. I don't get it. And then these same weasels have the nerve to wail and gnash their teeth over suspensions and bannings? It's rich.
Every thread here degenerates to that eventually, at least the ones you happen to post on. As such, yep, the site is sliding downhill faster with each passing week. Combined with your allowing some to use it for personal attack threads, or racial bullshit...it comes down to a simple question:
Why bother with LF? You don't give a shit how it looks. You don't give a shit how these kooks talk trash to YOU for God's sake. Which is why even that idiot Goldi gets more respect than you do in her kooky forum. Or JR at Free Republic, or mystery over at GBR....You aren't promoting 'freedom of speech' by allowing this crap, Stone
Well stated.
The House Commies feign outrage when Stone banishes a fellow Commie, feign outrage at "1st Amendment "rights" - all the while they are *allowed* to be utterly vulgar, disrespectful, back-biting, moronic, and kooky.
It's Idiocy x Hypocrisy x Stupidity.
This isn't about "censorship"; This is about direction of this forum, its mission statement, and whether of not SOME measure of civility is observed. But as all know, Leftists do are NOT about to respect a conservative/libertarian forum or its owner (and this supposedly IS, is it not?)
As to the rest of your rant, SPOT ON, Badeye.
It's some tough love for Stone - but it needed to be said.
You are the only forum owner I'm aware of that tolerates being told to 'fuck off' 'suck my dick' 'you are an asshole' 'the site runs better when you aren't here' etc etc etc.
Every thread here degenerates to that eventually, at least the ones you happen to post on. As such, yep, the site is sliding downhill faster with each passing week. Combined with your allowing some to use it for personal attack threads, or racial bullshit...it comes down to a simple question: Why bother with LF? You don't give a shit how it looks. You don't give a shit how these kooks talk trash to YOU for God's sake. Which is why even that idiot Goldi gets more respect than you do in her kooky forum. Or JR at Free Republic, or mystery over at GBR.
You aren't promoting 'freedom of speech' by allowing this crap, Stone. You simply promote your site isn't to be taken seriously, because nobody here takes YOU seriously. I drop by every day, but honestly, there hasn't been anything here worth commenting on for the past couple of weeks.
Its your site, Stone. but the reason it hasn't grown is because you haven't 'grown' as a site owner/operator. This isn't about politics, or anything else, as much as it is kooks talking shit behind absurd screen names in ways they'd NEVER do in the real world. Basically, its a fantasyland for losers that have been banned from legitimate sites for the obvious reasons.
As for 'godwincing' posters come, posters go. The rep of the site is what you should be worrying about. Thats the only 'constant' you have any influence over. So far, this site is just as amaturishly run as it was when I signed up.
And thats the problem...unless you enjoy being humiliated, taunted, and insulted by people on the internet. Maybe you do. I honestly don't get it, but its your site. Like the song says, you can't always have what you want, but you get what you need, eh?
You aren't promoting 'freedom of speech' by allowing this crap, Stone. You simply promote your site isn't to be taken seriously, because nobody here takes YOU seriously. I drop by every day, but honestly, there hasn't been anything here worth commenting on for the past couple of weeks.
Its your site, Stone. but the reason it hasn't grown is because you haven't 'grown' as a site owner/operator. This isn't about politics, or anything else, as much as it is kooks talking shit behind absurd screen names in ways they'd NEVER do in the real world. Basically, its a fantasyland for losers that have been banned from legitimate sites for the obvious reasons.
Since you rarely expand on any topic other than to slam some poster or another, I wonder why you think anyone actually cares about your critique. And the data base doesn't lie!!!!!!!!!!!
That must mean we will be seeing you under your badeye ID at LP and 4um. See ya.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
"I wonder why you think anyone actually cares about your critique."
because even if you often disagree with someone, or even grown to not particularly like them, everyone deserves to be recognized when they are right. And he does speak the truth here.
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
because even if you often disagree with someone, or even grown to not particularly like them, everyone deserves to be recognized when they are right. And he does speak the truth here.
But he doesn't practice what he preaches.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
"The site owner/moderator is immune from criticism? I don't buy that."
I don't either. I would never agree to that one. The owner is human, and if they are mature will take the criticism with good grace and show the characture to correct themselves. Thanks Fred.
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
No argument there, but it is never constructive to not give credit where credit is due.
I agree. It's just that he rarely indulges in practices that he says would make this forum great. So he needs to blame himself first, since he is the only one able to change his own behavior that is sooooo 'vital' to creating that difference he says he supports.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Bullshit Freddie. Neil was a self appointed 'site manager' who was upset I didn't 1) Agree with him on the election...2) Didn't kiss his ass because I knew he was a flat out fraud. Much later, when he laid down and whimpered in court after all his bravado on the internet, he confirmed my view of him.
Which is why he's still my personal internet bitch to this very day (laughing).
I never lied to him, like you, he wasn't worth a lie. Nice spin though.
"The problem with Commies and Leftists at a forum is their lack of logic, un-willingness to exchange cogent, honest thought and debate, and un-willingness to deviate from their hardened dogma."
This is your hardened dogma which as little touch with reality you are unwilling to debate.
Mike, it is indeed 98% true.
I'll give you that 2% because folks like you will at least listen even if you already know you disagree with whatever premise.
It suits your purposes to treat people whom you label as unwilling and incapable of change. You speak of people who are left of you politically as if they were automatons cut from the same cookie cutter.
Unfortunately, 90% of the political Left *are* automatronic. They are partisan Dems. They are hardened socialists. What's to debate? You say it's not true, I say it is. It's not even hyperbole on my part.
My "purpose" is gleaning and determining the truth of the matter and then considering solutions that promote construction instead of de-construction and destruction of this nation. Michael, you and your ilk want the US turned upside down on its head, aka "fundamentally changed" into a socialist state - which is unconstitutional.
In fact, people are people.
What does that even mean? If it means "we're all the same," then I vociferously disagree with that characterization. This forum, this debate, our respective political view proves it to be a fallacy; Sharia Law proves it to be a fallacy; The political class of elites proves that a fallacy; Any Country Club proves that to be a fallacy.
Everyone agrees with everyone else on some things and disagrees on others.
Is this supposed to be some kind of revelation??
Yyou repete your mantra I speak of over and over, and this is meant to shut down debate, to label and damn whomever you don't like politically.
And that "mantra" is what exactly? That the system of Communism are repressive, oppressive, and fascist?
And lol, who the hell are you kidding about "labeling"? You and you ilk engage in it like clockwork to shut down to marginalize and demonize debate (EX: "racist," "homophobe," "bigot," "talibornagain," "Holy Roller," "intolerant," "Teabagger," etc.)
Are conservatives and liberatarian all supposed to overlook the Left's and your rhetoric that's ALL based on Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals'?
SERIOUS QUESTION:
Are you conscious that you are engaging in Alinsky-type debate?
Bullshit Freddie. Neil was a self appointed 'site manager' who was upset I didn't 1) Agree with him on the election...2) Didn't kiss his ass because I knew he was a flat out fraud. Much later, when he laid down and whimpered in court after all his bravado on the internet, he confirmed my view of him.
Which is why he's still my personal internet bitch to this very day (laughing).
I never lied to him, like you, he wasn't worth a lie. Nice spin though.
Now, why are YOU here, hypocritical freddie?
When are you going to demonstrate to us how you plan to bring this site back to it's former glory, when Murron was the only poster and the side bar didn't change for days?
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Chyea...remember that one? He claimed that he *thought* that he needed one (1) name logon from home and yet another one (1) to logon from work - even though he used the one to cheer on the other...
But I always enjoyed how Neil could pop up out of nowhere and reduce Boofer to a sniveling, sputtering mass of Boofshit...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
In Robin Sage, phase three of the Special Forces Qualification Course (SFQC), the student NCO has the responsibility to show an ability to create rapport with the foreign nationals they are tasked in their mission to teach things like insurgency and counterinsurgency. One has to do it even should one find the people odious or hard to take culturally or in other respect.
Thus, those playing the roles of the foreign nationals getting the military assistance are school how to task SF students in this regard.
We had a Mormon officer who was offered the village' honor drink' by the 'village elder.' It was drinkable, but disgusting and nasty. The officer sniffed it and said, "I can't drink this because this has alcohol in it and as a Mormon I....." at that point, the mock villager with the M60 machine gun (with blanks) started firing the SF students up who had to go into action in conducting a retrograde operation (retreat) until the cadre reset the scenario.
This officer was wrong and did not keep his eye on the primary reason for being there. His mission was to establish rapport and to teach, not lecture or be inhospitable.
There are people I meet all the time whom I don't like and likely never will like. But if they do good, i compliment or praise them for this.
It is what I was taught in my life in times like phase three in the SFQC, and I take the lesson to heart.
That is my point. badeye is not an evil or bad man. I disagree with him quite often and he irritates the snot out of me. But you know what, I still like the scoundrel.
So sue me. ;-D
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
The same question could be asked of the other House Commies, but I think we know the answer to that query:
To agitate, spam, shill, and otherwise promote Commie propaganda. To their (dis)credit, it's the same reasons Police-Statist fascists frequent and infect conservative forums - to promote their brand of Big Goob control.
Neocoms lack higher consciousness to solve simple problems !
They have an aversion - immunity to it - reality !
Though I *think* I know what you mean (and what you say is true *I think*), I wish you'd convert your written language to something we don't have to run through Babelfish first.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Please direct me to a picture of myself, you fat drunken c**t See reply 73.....(grin).
If its that important to you, run a google search on me JJ. You know my name, and there is a pic of me getting an award...or at least there was last time I checked. Its from 1997, February. The award was from the Cincinnati Minority Suppliers Council for sales under $1 million.
I'll see what I can do about posting a more current pic, if you really want one.
Just don't do anything like you do when you look at yourself....thats a polite request.....
Badeye posted on 2003-03-15 9:26:22 ET Reply Trace
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
That is my point. badeye is not an evil or bad man. I disagree with him quite often and he irritates the snot out of me. But you know what, I still like the scoundrel.
You don't know him nor what he did and tried to do simply because he got his ass kicked by me on the internet.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Are you conscious that you are engaging in Alinsky-type debate?
You're KIDDING, right?
He admitted that he is political operative, as a JOB.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
RE: Monocle Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:17:59 -0500 From: [Badeye] To: [Neil] Neil,
When I first registered at your site it was from work. I didn't realize that I could use the same screen name and password, so at home I registered as Monocle (or the other way around....LOL!). Other political boards won't let you run from to separate machines/locations/ISP's with the same screen and password.
Guilty!...Please delete the Monocle access. It wasn't "intentional"...although I did take advantage of it for one comment yesterday, as I'm sure you know.
Since I've got the opportunity, thanks for giving me access. I get the feeling I'm not exactly the LP "target audience", but its been very educational. I've noticed quite a few posters from Pipebomb, which I did sponsor, which I'm sure you know. The internet has changed politics, although the pundits on all sides have yet to realize the full impact. I want to ensure this trend of political communication via the web continues....all the good, all the bad, all the ugly.
I have a great deal of faith in people that are informed.
If you feel the need to delete my access completely I understand. Its your house.
Anyway,
Thanks!
Badeye frm Monocle
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
That is my point. badeye is not an evil or bad man. I disagree with him quite often and he irritates the snot out of me. But you know what, I still like the scoundrel.
So you support a guy who threatens this:
"Sure would suck to see your real name and address pop up, wouldn't it 'freddie'?
have a nice day"
And you like Stone, who posts the private phone numbers of people he wants to have harassed?
Now, why are YOU here, hypocritical freddie? Good question.
Actually, I just ask it because I know the answer already.
He's been banned from everywhere else. Just like the dwarf.
If either of them had any balls, they'd create their own forum. But nope, too lazy, even though both have spent a decade doing the same thing, over and over and over again.
Are you conscious that you are engaging in Alinsky-type debate?
You're KIDDING, right?
He admitted that he is political operative, as a JOB.
Mike supposedly prides himself in possessing a large measure of honesty and integrity. I was challenging the degree.
I didn't know if he posted off the top of his head OR gave his response much thought after parroting the usual one-sided self-serving Leftist tripe about "labels" and "shutting down debate."
Sure, he's always been a political activist - that's no secret, nothing wrong with it...But I didn't know that he was a *paid* political operative.
If either of them had any balls, they'd create their own forum. But nope, too lazy, even though both have spent a decade doing the same thing, over and over and over again.
Chuckles...you are such a bitter, insignificant man...see you over at GBR!!!
Love, The Mean Old Nasty Dwarf
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Actually, I just ask it because I know the answer already.
Yeah, I realized that.
He's been banned from everywhere else. Just like the dwarf.
That's because both are posting to antagonize conservatives and play "gotcha!" - both only on their terms.
Funny how many liberals, Leftists, and Commies all seek approval and interaction with conservatives instead of hanging with their own ilk. It's a Love-Hate thing. I call it the "Impress Daddy Syndrome."
But I didn't know that he was a *paid* political operative.
Yeah, I thought that interesting... confirmation of something I'd suspected.
It certainly explains why he tucked-tail and came crawling back to LF...
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Its okay, he knows who I am in the RW. The only difference is I'm exactly what I claimed for a decade.
Chuckles...you were no better than a REMF who not only routinely overstates his military service but lied on a website about how Obama was "killing you".
It's an IMPOSSIBILITY to be months from bankruptcy but still making a profit, Boofer.
And there was no "in progress" military op during Reagan's inauguration that was aborted once the hostages were released. As I told you previously, I know several people who were on the Nimitz - the boat you originally claimed to be on.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Chuckles...you were no better than a REF who not only routinely overstates his military service but lied on a website about how Obama was "killing you".
It's an IMPOSSIBILITY to be months from bankruptcy but still making a profit, Boofer.
Schizo's think anything is possible.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
"To agitate, spam, shill, and otherwise promote Commie propaganda. To their (dis)credit, it's the same reasons Police-Statist fascists frequent and infect conservative forums - to promote their brand of Big Goob control."
I do believe the speakers on your STEREOtype are out of whack, lippie.
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
("To agitate, spam, shill, and otherwise promote Commie propaganda. To their (dis)credit, it's the same reasons Police-Statist fascists frequent and infect conservative forums - to promote their brand of Big Goob control.")
I do believe the speakers on your STEREOtype are out of whack, lippie.
Go ahead, Mike. re-calibrate MY characterization of your ilk through YOUR eyes....er through my speakers.
Btw, I find my new pet name clever. I'll have to reciprocate the favor.
I never say to never forget that sort of thing; but I have learned from activism - and even from Stone's religion with which I was tortured as a kid when I was forced to go to Mass - that forgiveness is a potent and valuable tool.
None of use are perfect. And often out perspective on what is wrong can be a hurricane in our minds, when it is a tempest in a teapot to the rest of the world.
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
"You don't know him nor what he did and tried to do simply because he got his ass kicked by me on the internet."
I mean no disrespect to your perspective and am not trying to invalidate it.
I only speak for myself, and I am using tools I have been given in my life I have gained from the various things I have done.
Both in the military and when doing activism have had to call people I loathe brethren. It is never easy, but in many situations it is unavoidable.
It is also never easy to try to be as forthcoming and to avoid pandering to people in even a virtual community. But I will always speak my mind even if it is discomforting to people like you for example whom I really respect and like.
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
The Wandering Goat took it's name from the story of the origin of coffee. Goats in the area that is now Ethiopia were noted to get very hyper when eating beans from bushes growing on the hills.
And you know humans; monkey see, monkey roast, grind, drink and do.
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
"Go ahead, Mike. re-calibrate MY characterization of your ilk through YOUR eyes....er through my speakers."
And you will have to forgive me, but as someone who's name can be written as M. Joseph McCarthy, it is terribly comical for me to hear you talking like you are aspiring to become the chairman of a new Senate Un-American Activities committee. ;-D
When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.
That is my point. badeye is not an evil or bad man. I disagree with him quite often and he irritates the snot out of me. But you know what, I still like the scoundrel.
Your stereotyping is like any fart you might issue forth; it smells sweet to you, and is rancid to the nose of anyone else. ;-)
Ok, I chuckled...
But please amend any untrue characterization I suggested of the Left and replace them with YOUR version (i.e., those principles and traits of those typically marching on YOUR side.)
LOL. Want me to provide the links, JUST to prove that you're lying again?
bimbitch: Erica came crawling here after s/he was banned from LP.
LOL. Want me to provide links (with time-stamps) to prove that you're lying again?
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
But they also have this weird compulsion to utterly trash the host of whatever site they happen to belong too.
They suffer from their own version of "attention deficit disorder," aka ADD.
In their case, they crave the attention of others. It doesn't matter if it's attention for something good or bad, as long as someone notices them.
IMO, it's simply another characteristic of their arrested (intellectual) development.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
We used to have an RCYB (Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade) cell in Eugene all of us really hated. We called them 'Really Confused Young Bourgeoisie.' They were so out there and annoying we used to extrapolate they were actually government disinformation plants. One of them lived near me and used to pawn copies of the Revolutionary Worker on me. I used it for the dog to shit on.
When you speak as you do I remember how much I detested them. I also recall how flawed and unrealistic the Communist Manifesto was when we used it in Western Civilization class as an example of an original historical document compared to a secondary historical document such as a history book.
I know beyond any shadow of doubt I am no proponent of Communism or Socialism. I was pleased when the USSR fell, and I -to say the least - shed no tears when Mao or Vietnam's Uncle Ho died.
So if it's all the same to you, I will continue to strongly be against taking away the property of people and collectivizing it. In fact, I would prefer to see family farms replace agribusinesses' corporate collectivizing of land.
I also want the U.S. Constitution upheld and followed, and this country to remain a Republic. There are indeed people out there who are really way way out there and believe we need to have some sort of communist revolution that would inevitably wind up as a repressive dictatorship of a few leaders oppressing everyone else a la George Orwell's satire concerning this called 'Animal Farm.' But to say the least, I am hardly one of them.
So, you are endowed with the free speech right to brand and label others anyway you wish, but it will never make that true. ;-)
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
He spent months out here blathering on about how the Germans have a better system than we do.
When that didn't work, he started blathering on about how it's the "normal" state of things for the Chinese to rule the world, so we should be glad that the Chinese are rising to the occasion.
goober is either mentally ill or a he's just trying to piss people off for the sake of being disruptive.
In either case, he is not someone who I will ever waste my time on again.
The Buffet rule -- you can become the world's largest tax cheat and also become an idol of the left at the same time. All one has to do is say what they want to hear.
Thanks. Helena Bonham Carter is a hell of a good actress. If you have never seen it,I highly recommend the movie "The Theory of Flight" that she stars in. It's really a oddball. A comedic tragedy,and she flat chews it UP.
But it's no fun preaching to his choir of nodding fellow-Commie subjects.
That's true. Which means there is hope of him coming back here to post,and then go back over there when he feels the need to have people fawn over him.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Thus, those playing the roles of the foreign nationals getting the military assistance are school how to task SF students in this regard.
Not me. I was all sunshine and light when I was the G Chief.
Of course,the students who had to deal with me had a slightly different outlook on that issue. I did get feedback later from a couple that served in Afghanistan that the lessons they learned about dealing with difficult guerrilla leaders came in handy and may have saved their lives and missions,though.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
And you will have to forgive me, but as someone who's name can be written as M. Joseph McCarthy, it is terribly comical for me to hear you talking like you are aspiring to become the chairman of a new Senate Un-American Activities committee. ;-D
You DO know that McCarthy was right about every single communist agent he named,right?
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
When that didn't work, he started blathering on about how it's the "normal" state of things for the Chinese to rule the world,
He may well be right about that. The Chinese are the worlds natural capitalists. The only thing that saved us from Chinese domination up to this point was communism.
They are totally ruthless when it comes to winning.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
No,but it's possible to find it on the internet if you are interested.
McCarthy wasn't able to defend himself against the charges because the evidence he had seen was classified Top Secret,and if he had proven his claims the Soviets would have been tipped off that we had the phone system in their embassy in DC tapped and were listening in to all their conversations.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
He may well be right about that. The Chinese are the worlds natural capitalists. The only thing that saved us from Chinese domination up to this point was communism.
Yes, China is much more capitalist than the U.S. today. This is why they are growing at 8%, while we are stagnating.
However, look at Chinese history - before, during and after Communism.
China has always been much more concerned with what goes on inside their country than out.
Throughout their history, they built walls to keep others out (not just the Great Wall, but many walls built over centuries).
Even during the Cold War, when Russia was fermenting revolution around the world, China mostly kept to themselves (unless there was a conflict right on their border, like Korea).
China is not the next natural leader of the world as goober claims. Nor are they a huge threat to America as the GOP neo-commies state.
The Buffet rule -- you can become the world's largest tax cheat and also become an idol of the left at the same time. All one has to do is say what they want to hear.
It's not so much a "debate" for these folks as it is about spamming a forum with Commie/Leftist propaganda.
Zackly.
The site has the name liberty in it.
The spew by these assorted dolts is based on nodern dimocrap ideology and linking liberty with these statist dimocrap fax machines stains the very term.
All one has to do is view DU to see one mention of liberty as germane to their positions.
They live for the religion - and it is the same as DU's religion.
There won't be a single post from any of them EVER espousing more liberty - it's always about more control.
Always. So that's why I bozoed every last one of them.
It's not about debate as they have no interest in debate.
Witness their current icon we all know as the resident house negroe who simply just czars and decrees whatever he and his massuhs decide in their insatiable lust for power. Liberties are collateral damage or just flak for them to extinguish.
In particular with this crew of destro, dwarf, whiningskank, brainshit and the two legged communist party campaign flyer 65 et al -- IMO if I wanted to view the daily reid/pelosi plan I'd tune in Keith Olberman or Bill Maher.
The indisputable fact is that Maher and Olberman's IQs exceeds the collective IQ of all of the bulging foreheaded spammers on LF combined. With change to spare. And Maher and Olberdork's buffonery can be mildly comical to tune into from time to time.
But this tolerance for breathing stench seems to be the norm now among anyone even an angstrom to the right of Lindsey Graham. We on the right just MUST be tolerant of such nonsense.
Just like someone like me trying to post my thoughts on DU or whatever shit sites they operate. Right?
AKA really makes no nevermind to me if you allow destro here since I'll not smell his stench anyway. But junk like this crew really operates as per the obama way - disrupt etc....what should be a site for people who really congregate around the vestiges of liberty. Rather than stomp all over the very concept at every opportunity.
So my vote FWIW is dustbin the trash.
I already get the LA Times.
(how about letting em come back after Nov 2012 so we can help them plan their immigration to wherever they plan on going after the regime change and first indictments are unsealed??)
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. (decided to retire the beatdowns on old worthless retread posters that are bozoed)
what's a forum without opposing views Free Republic/Bot Central?
That'd probably make sense if you had no idea what the opposing views were eh?
LOL!!...Pete, I'm sure you have enough miles on you that nothing these tardbots spews is news to you.
To each his own I guess -- but for me if go65 tried to plant one of his commie yardsigns in my yard I'd affix it to his forehead with prejudice.
That's why I bozoed him. The head house minstrel negroe is making my life and my kid's future bleak enough without having one of his mindless parrots incessantly squawking pelosi-isms on my Liberty's Flame yard.
Then again - I suppose some here just enjoy the "debate".
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. (decided to retire the beatdowns on old worthless retread posters that are bozoed)
"You DO know that McCarthy was right about every single communist agent he named,right?"
Do you now how much of a pain in the neck getting a middle name honoring my grandmother who's name was Josephine has been?
Yes Pete, I've heard this. But I kind of have a difficult time wrapping my head around the concept of sympathy for his alleged good name. I promise i'll check that out.
But even should I find you are right, don't ever expect me to like the SOB.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
"Of course,the students who had to deal with me had a slightly different outlook on that issue. I did get feedback later from a couple that served in Afghanistan that the lessons they learned about dealing with difficult guerrilla leaders came in handy and may have saved their lives and missions,though."
I wish we had had you being our G chief. I knew that Robin Sage was hard to predict and had various ways things could go in order to keep us on our toes, and it was nowhere near as bad as the SERE Course, but we had some really fun time with the ones who played Gs when my class went through.
I also got to do two phase one sessions. I passed both. of course, the first was the shake and bake Reservist and Guard show that lasted two weeks which we did along with the requisite resident correspondent courses.
That was not bad, so when I got a chance to go to the R.A Q Course, I found out what a month if genuine agony was.
I lost over 25 pounds and took my requisite PT test for it after I finished it and came within ten points of failing it and having to do it again.
Special Force's teaching meant a lot to me in my life though. I would not be the man I am today if I had never been motivated to join that Guard S.F. Unit when I saw it doing NCO School at Camp Williams in Utah.
Special Forces is the best element of the military. With all due apologies to the Seals of course.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
#172. To: e_type_jag, Liberator, A K A Stone (#168)(Edited)
Liberator: "It's not so much a "debate" for these folks as it is about spamming a forum with Commie/Leftist propaganda."
e_type_jag: "Zackly. The site has the name liberty in it....AKA really makes no nevermind to me if you allow destro here since I'll not smell his stench anyway. But junk like this crew really operates as per the obama way - disrupt etc....what should be a site for people who really congregate around the vestiges of liberty. Rather than stomp all over the very concept at every opportunity."
Young people, and even some older citizens of this nation are lost, they're floundering, looking for answers, not pissing contests. Most are alone, there is no comradery anywhere, no common bond that can be shared without some libtard stirring shit and disgracing everyone around them, causing confusion and even more frustration, if people leave, then we have lost another good future patriot, and the libtards can chalk up another victory.
I think the world of Stone, but think about this, when was the last time we had any new conservative members join up...and stay?
I believe that if what is happening all around us is not important enough to try and bring more of us together, uniting us in a common cause, then what's the point? Why would anyone who loves freedom and liberty allow these filthy socialist this podium, our podium, libertysflame, why would we allow them to bully and disrespect us on our own homefront, when there are so many other's who would wellcome their anti-American, anti-capitalistic trash talk?
I'm still around mostly out of habit, with a couple of folks I got to know over the years, not because of any loyalty to the cause, because, there is no CAUSE here at liberysflame, you can try and talk with one another what it is we want for our country to get her back on track, we can talk about how we love God, and Jesus, we can even wish each other holiday and BD greetings, but any good feelings we might want to come away with later are trashed by flying monkeys with nothing better to do, it's what they do best.
If Libertysflame stands for nothing, and falls for anything, then this is the perfect place for dems and repubs alike with nothing better to do with their spare time.
Sorry, but I don't feel generous enough to share my precious time among socialist, communist, fascists, Marxist, and/or Anarchist. I am selfish in what it is I want, and they are not a part of my plans, or my daily life, not here, not anywhere. Being overly tolerant and naive on our part is what got this nation in mess she's in, and I don't believe internet pissing contests with these filthy bastards are going to help her, or anyone out of it.
I believe what we have can be shared with anyone, but never given over to the enemy to stomp on, redicule and trash.
God Bless JMHO!
Just my two-cents
"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."~ Murron
Police seek two suspects following Corbin bank robbery
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Since the L&N Railroad, rail transport became the much smaller CSX, the economy has shifted to crank and bank robberies in parts of Kentucky like this one.
Sure hope it gets better in your neck of the woods and the rest of the country. But it is no better or worse than anyplace else. and those of us you slander as shiftless commies have been hard working people all their lives, and have had to contend with exactly the same thing as anyone else in the nation.
Nice rambling rant with the goal of dividing and smearing, but you should stop feeling sorry for your self and nursing your vast array of resentments.
In the long run it might make you feel good for a moment, but that way of doing things in the end is not going to get you anywhere constructive.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
You DO know that McCarthy was right about every single communist agent he named,right?
Yes he was.
Oh Bullshit...he accused the Secretary of the Army, Robert Stevens, of being a Communist which is how McCarthy lost Eisenhower.
That said, McCarthy actually "named" very few people and those he did name were a) from a list that had been compiled by HUAC in 1946/47 and b) were people who were mostly exonerated and remain so to this day.
McCarthy focused mainly not on people but on the activities of groups and articles in publications.
You've said this before, sneak, and have gotten the smack down.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
The head house minstrel negroe is making my life and my kid's future bleak enough without having one of his mindless parrots incessantly squawking pelosi-isms on my Liberty's Flame yard.
Sounds like you may have to find a new job.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
It's hilarious how you apologists for the 1% understand least the concept of freedom and its required exchange and scrutiny of ideas.
It is pathetic how you latch onto political propaganda terms created by others. 1 percent is more then the protesters total numbers. You are a follower not a leader.
It is pathetic how you latch onto political propaganda terms created by others. 1 percent is more then the protesters total numbers. You are a follower not a leader.
There are 535 members of Congress...they represent MORE than their total numbers. Your argument is meaningless on even an infantile level.
This nation, through GOP proxies, has aggresively kowtowed to the 1% for the last 30+ years and all it has brought is debt, deficits, gyrating employment, exported jobs and not one, but THREE financial crisises.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
The spew by these assorted dolts is based on nodern dimocrap ideology and linking liberty with these statist dimocrap fax machines stains the very term.
I see that you're still stringing words together in a random fashion in an effort to woo Boris, EEOC...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
"The commies that McCarthy names should have been executed."
It is not illegal to be a communist. They are marginalized and unpopular, but the U.S. Constitution gives the political freedom for people to belong to those political parties.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
"It is pathetic how you latch onto political propaganda terms created by others. 1 percent is more then the protesters total numbers. You are a follower not a leader."
So, are we to infer by this comment that you are a leader yourself? That would be a surprise to me, as I have yet to see you exibit any talent with leadership skills.
This seems a strange way to try to flank war in an argument.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
China has always been much more concerned with what goes on inside their country than out.
That's true,and what better way to control what is going on in their own country than to control all of Asia and maybe even the whole world? That way they can even control all foreign influences.
Despite the leftie wet dreams,global control isn't about global equality and loving your fellow man/woman. It's about control.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
It is not illegal to be a communist. They are marginalized and unpopular, but the U.S. Constitution gives the political freedom for people to belong to those political parties.
The GOP actually prefers communist countries for manufacturing, trade and labor supply. They just don't want any snide comments being made about it from 99%ers, whose role is to shut up and consume.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
The only real list I'm aware of had already been released by the State Dept three years earlier.
Three years earlier of when?
The real list wasn't made public until after the USSR collapsed and the KGB files were opened to researchers. IF I remember correctly,that was when the US government released the "Verona Files" that McCarthy had access to when he made his accussations.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
The spew by these assorted dolts is based on nodern dimocrap ideology and linking liberty with these statist dimocrap fax machines stains the very term.
All one has to do is view DU to see one mention of liberty as germane to their positions.
They live for the religion - and it is the same as DU's religion.
There won't be a single post from any of them EVER espousing more liberty - it's always about more control. Always.
Say it again, Reverend Jag :-D
So that's why I bozoed every last one of them. It's not about debate as they have no interest in debate...The indisputable fact is that Maher and Olberman's IQs exceeds the collective IQ of all of the bulging foreheaded spammers on LF combined. With change to spare. And Maher and Olberdork's buffonery can be mildly comical to tune into from time to time.
LOL...IOW, typical liberal parrots, robots, and lobotomized mental cases. So again that leaves us with the question as to why they post here in the first place, or at what ostensibly are forums which espouse conservative principles.
AKA really makes no nevermind to me if you allow destro here since I'll not smell his stench anyway. But junk like this crew really operates as per the obama way - disrupt etc....what should be a site for people who really congregate around the vestiges of liberty. Rather than stomp all over the very concept at every opportunity.
So my vote FWIW is dustbin the trash. I already get the LA Times.
Yup. We see it, we recognize the MO of LF's House Commies: Disruption, ridicule, and sh*tting on the forum's head. To what end? "Liberty"?? Like hell. Eff them. I've already BOZOed most of this crew.
My theory is Stone fears that without his forum awash on Leftist/Commie traffic, the numbers will be reduced; I believe the traffic rises without the Commie crew pumping out their daily propaganda from their Moonbat satellite, the moonbat small talk, and moonbat backbiting.
Young people, and even some older citizens of this nation are lost, they're floundering, looking for answers, not pissing contests. Most are alone, there is no comradery anywhere, no common bond that can be shared without some libtard stirring shit and disgracing everyone around them, causing confusion and even more frustration, if people leave, then we have lost another good future patriot, and the libtards can chalk up another victory.
I think the world of Stone, but think about this, when was the last time we had any new conservative members join up...and stay?
Mur makes a number of good points.
What conservative, libertarian, or even moderate searching for reinforcement of conservative principles would take a peek at LF and remain after observing the House Commies make a mockery of things? What kind of young person OR any person would look at this mess and want to remain? If they're looking for camaraderie, unity to our cause, leadership, and focus, they MIGHT find *some* here. However, they probably just see the constant Leftist tripe spamming and undermining and leave this forum with barely more than a cursory look, ASAP. Who could blame them?
Sorry, but I don't feel generous enough to share my precious time among socialist, communist, fascists, Marxist, and/or Anarchist. I am selfish in what it is I want, and they are not a part of my plans, or my daily life, not here, not anywhere. Being overly tolerant and naive on our part is what got this nation in mess she's in, and I don't believe internet pissing contests with these filthy bastards are going to help her, or anyone out of it....I believe what we have can be shared with anyone, but never given over to the enemy to stomp on, redicule and trash.
#195. To: Murron, *Politics and Politicians* (#172)
I think the world of Stone, but think about this, when was the last time we had any new conservative members join up...and stay?
I don't think Stone or sites like LF have anything to do with that. I think the biggest reason for the huge drop in conservative participation is the betrayals by the RINO Party,and them feeling like they no longer have any place to go where they are welcome.
I am personally no longer under any illusion that it is possible to save the Republic. The fascists have won and it's just a matter of time before we become The North American Economic Zone.
Not that the leftists that self-identify themselves as "liberals" have won,either. Most are just dreamers at heart,and just don't have what it takes to face up to the reality that they will be nothing but laborers and serfs in the "bold new world". The ones that are young enough to work,anyhow. The old ones like Jane Fonda will end up as dog food.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Oh Bullshit...he accused the Secretary of the Army, Robert Stevens, of being a Communist...
Maybe he was? Or maybe,McCarthy never made the charge that he was a communist,and this is a lie the media spread to help defame McCarthy? Maybe what McCarthy claimed is that Stephens associated with or was friends with people who were security risks because of their communist connections or leanings,and this became "Joe called him a communist!"
which is how McCarthy lost Eisenhower.
Eisenhower was nothing more than a overpaid clerk. As far as I know the only really good thing he did personally his whole life was remind everybody to "beware of the military-industrial complex" on his way out the WH door. That doesn't make up for him leading the raid on the Bonus Marchers,though. Which is the closest this General ever got to combat.
That said, McCarthy actually "named" very few people
Because the list was Top Secret and he couldn't name them without exposing intelligence gathering procedures and spoiling surveillance operations.
...those he did name were a) from a list that had been compiled by HUAC in 1946/47
They may have been on that list,but that wasn't the only list they were on.
..and b) were people who were mostly exonerated and remain so to this day.
"Mosty exonerated"? Were some of them a little bit pregnant? What you are trying to say without saying it is that they were never put on trial for their treasonous acts and the left continued to bray about them being innocent.
You've said this before, sneak, and have gotten the smack down.
Don't confuse your delusions with reality.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
We used to have an RCYB (Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade) cell in Eugene all of us really hated. We called them 'Really Confused Young Bourgeoisie.' They were so out there and annoying we used to extrapolate they were actually government disinformation plants. One of them lived near me and used to pawn copies of the Revolutionary Worker on me. I used it for the dog to shit on.
When you speak as you do I remember how much I detested them. I also recall how flawed and unrealistic the Communist Manifesto was when we used it in Western Civilization class as an example of an original historical document compared to a secondary historical document such as a history book.
I know beyond any shadow of doubt I am no proponent of Communism or Socialism. I was pleased when the USSR fell, and I -to say the least - shed no tears when Mao or Vietnam's Uncle Ho died.
Thanks for a well thought out post...
It kinda saddens me that for all your early and present recognition of the evil of socialism/Communism that you would far more closely align with this ilk.
Mike, we are all falling into line on one of two sides of the fence. Ya gotta decide which side will more closely reflect the America you remember and want for your kids; The America that makes you proud.
So if it's all the same to you, I will continue to strongly be against taking away the property of people and collectivizing it. In fact, I would prefer to see family farms replace agribusinesses' corporate collectivizing of land.
I also want the U.S. Constitution upheld and followed, and this country to remain a Republic. There are indeed people out there who are really way way out there and believe we need to have some sort of communist revolution that would inevitably wind up as a repressive dictatorship of a few leaders oppressing everyone else a la George Orwell's satire concerning this called 'Animal Farm.' But to say the least, I am hardly one of them.
You are truly an enigma.
You disapprove of nearly every major Communistic ideal, yet you more closely relate with and align with.....Communists. AND 0bama. AND his acolytes.
I know this about you - you are a loyal, principled, and possess a good measure of courage. But you're wasting it because you're misguided and dwell on the worst so-called "representatives" of conservatism. Perhaps the overriding factor for you is your conflict with Christians? The rejection of gay militancy by conservatives? The abortion issue? Maybe you perceive conservatives as "racist" (when it's the other way 'round?)
So, you are endowed with the free speech right to brand and label others anyway you wish, but it will never make that true. ;-)
We ALL brand and label others - with good reason. Yeah, sometimes we're wrong. I'm right about who and what most of the posters here are. I would label you a confused closet conservative (based on you're own self-description, but subject to change.)
Only you know why you more closely relate with the political Left - and you do.
This nation, through GOP proxies, has aggresively kowtowed to the 1% for the last 30+ years and all it has brought is debt, deficits, gyrating employment, exported jobs and not one, but THREE financial crisises.
Put down the crack pipe.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
The GOP actually prefers communist countries for manufacturing, trade and labor supply. They just don't want any snide comments being made about it from 99%ers, whose role is to shut up and consume.
Proving once again that you are full of Hillary.
Unless maybe you think nations like France,Italy,VN,China,and Korea were controlled by the GOP? THEY were the nations doing the most trading with the old Soviet Union. Nations YOU would call "good socialist nations".
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
War: "This nation, through GOP proxies, has aggresively kowtowed to the 1% for the last 30+ years and all it has brought is debt, deficits, gyrating employment, exported jobs and not one, but THREE financial crisises."
Put down the crack pipe.
THIS kind of Stockholm Syndrome brainwashing is exactly why there can be no sane debate with a Leftist/Commie.
While Wall St. Whizzer war wuz busy praising 0bama's $800 billion "Stimulus Package" as some kind of job/economy solution in 2009, it was disappearing into thin air (or into the pockets of Solyndra and other *Dim* proxies like ACORN.)
The other items on his crack-list are arguably bi-partisan disasters to different degrees.
If he actually named any names from it I'm not aware of it.
Ok,you have a point there. I mispoke (miswrote?). I don't think he ever named any names,but restricted himself to saying things like "Members of the State Department" and "members of the US Army".
It was the left playing defense that claimed he named names,and then named some names themselves of people that WEREN'T communist agents of fellow travelers. Which when you think of it is a VERY clever way to play defense.
Having said that,when the Venona Files and the KGB archives were released it was proven beyond any doubt who he had been referring to because these names were the names of people who had been working in the State Department,US Army,etc,etc,etc.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Unless maybe you think nations like France,Italy,VN,China,and Korea were controlled by the GOP? THEY were the nations doing the most trading with the old Soviet Union. Nations YOU would call "good socialist nations".
No one said anything about any foreign country being CONTROLLED by the GOP.
Putting your fantasy words into other's posts here seems to be all you have today.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#209. To: mininggold, A K A Stone, Murron, Mad Dog, jwpegler, hondo68, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, Get Outta Dodge!, CZ82, jwpegler, Rudgear (#193)(Edited)
bimbitch: Erica came crawling here after s/he was banned from LP. Capitalist Eric: LOL. Want me to provide links (with time-stamps) to prove that you're lying again? bimbitch: Go for it, but first you need to prove your charge against Mike.
If Mike challenges me to prove the point, I'll be HAPPY to embarrass him.
You lie your ass off, then you try to set the rules. You think you're pretty safe, eh?
Fine. Let's START with YOU.
The post on LP where I told goldi she's a coward, she sucks, and she's a propagandist, is HERE. Oh, BTW, once I was done, my exact quote to goldi was "Now that I've said my peace, I hereby give you permission to delete my account. And f**k you very much."
The time where I started posting (as I opus'ed out of LF) is HERE.
I've proven the point, and demonstrated that you are, indeed, a lying b! tch.
You can now STFU.
PING to everyone else, for your amusement.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
It was strange how no one seemed to care about those very same people and their supposed misdeeds as long as the USSR was our ally.
Nothing strange about it. The people who were "under suspicion" (actually known traitors) were the very people in charge of taking action against traitors. Eithe that or friends of the people who could take action. King Franklin's cabinet was riddled with communists,including his cousin-wife.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
No one said anything about any foreign country being CONTROLLED by the GOP.
Did you or did you not write : The GOP actually prefers communist countries for manufacturing, trade and labor supply. ?
WHERE in that sentence did you restrict doing business with the commies to the United States?
I find it hard to believe that a bubble-headed globalist group-hug cretin like you didn't know the socialist nations of the world were trading with the Soviet Union the whole time they existed.
Therefor,when you claim " The GOP actually prefers communist countries for manufacturing, trade and labor supply." it implied you think the GOP is in charge of all trade.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Nothing strange about it. The people who were "under suspicion" (actually known traitors) were the very people in charge of taking action against traitors. Eithe that or friends of the people who could take action. King Franklin's cabinet was riddled with communists,including his cousin-wife.
How convenient for the GOP. Yet just voting out the guilty political party would have taken care of it. But instead Truman was elected for another term.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Uh...no...the names were very public. The "list" - which was actually several ists in several forms - had been around for years prior to McCarthy doing anything with it. The first time the Hollywood portion of the list was made public it was in a published essay called The Red Channels and that was around 1947 or 1948.
"Mosty exonerated"?
Some left the country...out of sight out of mind but the orginal "Hollywood Ten" were exonerated to a man.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Therefor,when you claim " The GOP actually prefers communist countries for manufacturing, trade and labor supply." it implied you think the GOP is in charge of all trade.
Are you kidding? That's your obsession, not mine.
Think Nixon and take it from there.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
MOST people understand that this is NOT the 1940's and 1950's.
Yet just voting out the guilty political party would have taken care of it.
Words fail me. How the HELL do you vote out wives,cabinet members,state department employees,military members,and others who were never voted into office to start with?
But instead Truman was elected for another term.
Only because King Franklin had just died,and he had a D behind his name.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Nice rambling rant with the goal of dividing and smearing, but you should stop feeling sorry for your self and nursing your vast array of resentments.
Mike, let's cut the crap; 0bama is a socialist. You support him and his policies...don't you??
His policies and agenda can be found in Alinsky Bible:
To divide and conquer, and to break the back of and DESTROY capitalism, conservatism, nationalism and American sovereignty.
You're projecting like most leftists (yet of course you claim to NOT be one-of-them.)
0bama's Communism and his anti-capitalist/anti-America policies are depriving American business of a fair opportunity to compete and create jobs and grow the economy.
Our over-regulations, tax burdens, and unreasonable restrictions can NOT compete against the near slave-labor of China and unregulated, nonrestrictive overseas operations (like GE and GM) in Brazil and Mexico. 0bama's and the Dems' policies are utterly DESTROYING the creation of jobs IN AMERICA. FWIW, Bush (both) and Bubba's NAFTA and MFN status to China without levied tariffs also bit us in the azz.
Want jobs in the US? Make it profitable and tell Commie-0bama to stop busting American capitalists' balls.
The names listed in the Venona Files were known to the public back then?
Don't you think that's kind of odd since nobody in the public even knew about the Venona Files?
The first time the Hollywood portion of the list was made public it was in a published essay called The Red Channels and that was around 1947 or 1948.
Are you talking about the HUAC list? You do know that McCarthy was a Senator,right?
"Mosty exonerated"?
Some left the country...out of sight out of mind but the orginal "Hollywood Ten" were exonerated to a man.
Really? When were the trials? Who was the judge that ruled they were not guilty?
And once again,I do believe that was the HUAC that went after Hollywood. McCarthy may have poached some of their material,but the material was there work.
BTW,"leaving the country to avoid possible charges" is NOT the same thing as being exonerated.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
How the HELL do you vote out wives,cabinet members,state department employees,military members,and others who were never voted into office to start with?
We may vote in hood ornament Senators, Congressmen, and Presidents, but the rest of the Commie/Statist machine (who have NO accountability) have been working like ravenous termites behind the scene since WWII in undermining the underpinnings of this nation.
The whole shebang is finally collapsing, and the idiots are blaming whomever Tee-Bee and the New York Times sez to blame (i.e. - NOT Washington DC.)
I challenged you. So why don't you just prove your point by posting under your ID on LP?
The exact conversation was the following:
bimbitch: Erica came crawling here after s/he was banned from LP. Capitalist Eric: LOL. Want me to provide links (with time-stamps) to prove that you're lying again? bimbitch: Go for it, but first you need to prove your charge against Mike.
You made a claim that I ran away from LP after I was banned.
You challenged me to prove that you're a liar, and I did.
Check-mate.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
IF you were capable of having a actual thought,you would be worshiping Nixon. After all,he is the one that came out with wage and price controls,and he is the one that started the EPA.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
IF you were capable of having a actual thought,you would be worshiping Nixon. After all,he is the one that came out with wage and price controls,and he is the one that started the EPA.
And of course you ignore his initiation of normalization of relations with China, which was my whole point and obviously went over your head.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Okay...stipulating to your facrtured fairy tale here, MacArthur ordered it and Paton carried it out.
LOL! And were was Ike in your little fairy tale,out getting coffee?
How does that make Ike the man who led the charge against the Bonus Army?
Because he was Dugout Dougs XO,and as such he was the leader in the field and was on site and gave the command to Patton to move his calvary troops out.
Field commanders are said to be the ones leading the armies in battle,even if they are sitting in the rear of the battlefield directing the battle. Directing the battle is considered to be the same as leading the battle.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Nice rambling rant with the goal of dividing and smearing, but you should stop feeling sorry for your self and nursing your vast array of resentments.
You just don't get it, do you? I don't feel sorry for myself, my sympathies lie with our children and future generations, and what burdens we have laid upon them to suffer.
You don't know a damn thing about me and what it is I believe in and want for my family, you only think you do. I am from a part of this nation you have chosen to point your finger at and redicule, all I am to you is entertainment to make up for your worthless, meaningless life, someone who has nothing better to do but tear another person down in order to build themselves up, an ego trip.
As for 'dividing' and 'smearing', if you are among those who threaten our liberties and freedom, then I have no wish for anything but 'division', to separate myself from you, and as long as you spout your liberal agenda in my face, I will continue to slap you up side your socialist head with a broad brush of truth and expose you, and any other's like you, for the theives, liars and traitors that you are.
What your kind are doing to this nation is more important to me than what you think of the area I live, your small mind is stuck on stupid, and it's your problem, not mine, walk it off twinkle toes. jmho!
"OWS! Liberals! Their goal is to find a way to live within the means of the working class rich, but without the work."
The people who were "under suspicion" (actually known traitors) were the very people in charge of taking action against traitors. Eithe that or friends of the people who could take action. King Franklin's cabinet was riddled with communists,including his cousin-wife.
Everything was turned on its head. True and most shameful account and chapter of US history that is DIRECTLY responsible for today's destruction of the USA (as we know it.)
The McCarthy Lynching was the lynch-pin that determined the very direction and track the US would be taking into the future. With FDR and his Commies having already infiltrated key positions (as now) moled in goobermint, the judiciary, and media, they intimidated, bribed, and overpowered the right people....
With ANY courageous patriots stepping forward to help McCarthy disinfect the State Dept, the traitors would have been executed and imprisoned, and the US would have continued on as the greatest, most principled nation on earth. Instead by design it's become sabotaged socially, culturally and economically. It's a damned tragedy.
Is it still illegal to embellish on one's military service?
I don't think it is, nor is it illegal to falsely claim military honors one isn't entitled to, according to a ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeal, 9th Circuit. The Supreme Court has just agreed to rule on the constitutionality of the 2005 Stolen Valor law.
The names listed in the Venona Files were known to the public back then?
Apples and Oranges. Venona was a WWII War Department project because noone trusted Stalin - rightly so, apparently. And, IIRC, most of the names gathered during the course of Venona were code names those whose names were discovered were prosecuted...
Are you talking about the HUAC list? You do know that McCarthy was a Senator,right?
Yea so? Again, there wasn't a singular list but several lists compiled of artists, politicians, media figures.
Really? When were the trials? Who was the judge that ruled they were not guilty?
Since when is an accusation a presumption of guilt? And they were tried and the only charge that stuck was "contempt of Congress"...
BTW,"leaving the country to avoid possible charges" is NOT the same thing as being exonerated.
Which is why I quantified the exoneration of those accused as "mostly".
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Since you haven't published your emails to and from Goldi, you can easily prove it by posting from LP.
There were no emails between myself and goldi. All communications with her were public.
And you can see them at the links I provided.
But that's all moot- the bottom line is that you lied, and I proved it.
No amount of spin will change that FACT.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
What conservative, libertarian, or even moderate searching for reinforcement of conservative principles would take a peek at LF and remain after observing the House Commies make a mockery of things? What kind of young person OR any person would look at this mess and want to remain? If they're looking for camaraderie, unity to our cause, leadership, and focus, they MIGHT find *some* here. However, they probably just see the constant Leftist tripe spamming and undermining and leave this forum with barely more than a cursory look, ASAP. Who could blame them?
I guess my question is what would you do for entertainment if all the Leftards suddenly shut up or permanently left LF?????
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
"Erica came crawling here after s/he was banned from LP. S/he must be another one of those 'disruptors" that badeye is talking about."
I looked at eLPee after erica made her royal announcement she was highly displeased, and I do believe I remember a post at eLPee opussing.
It is easy to check. One just has to do a 'From' check to the early part of her tenure here and cross check it with her posts at the end of her posts at eLPee.
I feel it is a moot point. Erica is like the clap; whether the infection is active or cured, no one likes to talk about it.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
"Mike, let's cut the crap; 0bama is a socialist. You support him and his policies...don't you??"
How do you get that notion? The first thing he did was allow a major timber sale in the Tsongas national Park in Alaska. He is oppressing cannabis instead of moving toward legalized and regulated like alcohol and tobacco, he has not prosecuted Smirk and Snarl for blowing up the twin towers and for putting a missile into the Pentagon.
That is just some examples of bad governance by him. I support the new health care legislation, withdrawing the troops from Iraq, the stimulus packages for the most part, and we do concur on things, but he is not my ideal POTUS. He never was in th first place.
I like him as a human being and I adore his wife and kids, but that is nothing to do with how I feel about his administration.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
Bitch, it doesn't MATTER if you choose to "believe" me or not; the proof is there, I posted it, and that's the END OF THE STORY.
I really don't GAS if you choose to ignore the PROOF I posted. Hell, why don't you go believe you're Cinderella, or an alien from Neptune, or whatever the hell you WANT to believe........ Clearly, I'm not gonna' break through your delusions, should you make the choice to ignore reality....
Jeez, you are delusional. Sick.
Seriously, you need to up your meds. If not, you may decide to believe you're the Queen of England.... LMAO.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
"And where is your evidence supporting what you posted about Mike? "
The prick needs no evidence, as that one is all agenda. I do believe their is a great love to abuse and to try to bully too.
He's someone I would assume an aggressive defensive posture were he to approach and identify himself in real time. He doesn't know how to agree to disagree nor does he like people who do.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
....This is true isn't it? That's what it looked like to me.
Correct.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
The prick needs no evidence, as that one is all agenda.
Which is what, precisely?
What IS my "agenda?"
He doesn't know how to agree to disagree nor does he like people who do.
Another ASSumption on your part. There are many that I deal with- on a daily basis- on the "agree to disagree."
But that approach is not sufficient, when dealing with TRAITORS. Traitors and enemies are NOT people that you "agree to disagree" with.
You want me to "compromise" with your treason. Compromise leads to surrender.
I WILL NOT.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
I really don't care about personal animosities, and I don't hate you as a person.
I just hate everything you stand for.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
"You want me to "compromise" with your treason. Compromise leads to surrender"
Yeah, that's why the first thing I do every time I go to Boston is to go to the harbor to say hello to my favorite girlfriend, the USS Constitution that is docked there.
That's why I spent so much of my time in the military ready to go fight for and possibly be wounded or die for this country.
There are many ways I show my love for the United States, and not one example of my being treasonous. To even posture this notion makes you something beneath contempt.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
"It kinda saddens me that for all your early and present recognition of the evil of socialism/Communism that you would far more closely align with this ilk."
I support whomever I feel is the best man or woman for the country and Constitution; not whomever is closest to me ideologically. Which is why Ron Paul has my support over Obama.
There is nothing enigmatic about me at all. You just think you know me, but you aren't close at all.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
the first thing I do every time I go to Boston is to go to the harbor to say hello to my favorite girlfriend, the USS Constitution that is docked there.
Which means precisely dick.
That's why I spent so much of my time in the military ready to go fight for and possibly be wounded or die for this country.
Big whoop. I'm a vet, too. You don't see me wear that on my sleeve, to prove my patriotism.
On the contrary, your words and your espoused agenda prove you to be a traitor.
Why not wear THAT on your sleeve? Oh, that's right... you're a disengenuous little sh!t, who doesn't want to be TOO honest about what you really are, and what your agenda really IS.
There are many ways I show my love for the United States, and not one example of my being treasonous. To even posture this notion makes you something beneath contempt.
Let's go through the list, and see if you fit the various symptoms of the sick and destructive liberal (socialist). Follow along, here:
1. intellectually and spiritually bankrupt? YEP. Definitely. 2. infected with a ...hatred of tradition, morals and values? YEP. 3. deceptive, perfectly, and diabolically willing and able to take all of us down with them? YEP. Check. 4. [Pushing for] animal bill of rights, pet guardianship and the picketing of KFC? YEP. 5. support the millions of illegal immigrants filling our schools, hospitals and prisons and the accompanying multi-billion dollar tax burden? Most definitely. 6. The call for celebration of other cultures is revealed to be a mere mask fueling the fires of racial and class divisions. SURE! (That was an easy one.) 7. [Pushing for the] dismantling of Western civilization? Of COURSE ! 8. pervasiveness and unending in its preaching [of the agenda of dismantling Western Civilization]? Sure! (Another easy one.) 9. Principle is abandoned for practicality? Absolutely. You have no principles, being the traitor you ARE. 10. Cooperation becomes compromise. Public relations become political correctness. And the path of least resistance leads to surrender? YEAH, that's EXACTLY what you want.
And there you have it! You're 100% TRAITOR!
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Yeah, you must be getting DIZZY by now, with all the spinning YOU do.
Then again, considering what an empty-headed little sh!t you really are, maybe not.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Awww, Junior...and here were were getting along so famously...
Getting bored with bitch-slapping you, is simply being bored with you.
If your loser life is so miserable that you must construe my lack of patience with your predictably trite commentary, than you're even more of a loser than I took you for.
But hey, if that's what it takes for you to feel like someone GAS about you or the empty life you lead...? Whatever.
Make yourself happy... go buy a new car... some banking stock, perhaps...? [I hear BofA is looking really good right now... <<< wink, wink, nudge, nudge...>>>]
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
If you're bitch slapping me then why am I the one laughing and you the one so...so...angry?
[snicker]
Because you're an idiot, and a traitor.
You think this is a game, and that it's FUN to tear my country apart.
And- the worst mistake of all- you think we're gonna' let you succeed.
NOT gonna' happen, asshole.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
The McCarthy Lynching was the lynch-pin that determined the very direction and track the US would be taking into the future. With FDR and his Commies having already infiltrated key positions (as now) moled in goobermint, the judiciary, and media, they intimidated, bribed, and overpowered the right people....
And the mindless Dim fieldhands are STILL defending King Franklin and his cousin Queen.
Ironically enough,the people MOST responsible for the coverup of the communist infiltration of this country and blaming everything on the "rich" were some of the richest people in the country. Namely Hollywood and newspaper "royalty". The very people whose personal fortunes INCREASED during the Depression.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Probably not. It just means Dugout Doug was his immediate superior,and Ike was the guy that insured his orders and wishes were obeyed.
Think of Dougout Doug as the President and Ike as the Chief of Staff. Which is really what a Executive Officer (XO) in a military unit does.
The Commanding Officer gets to remain aloof from any problems his ideas and orders cause,and his XO takes the blame because he is the one that sees the orders are followed.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
I don't "try" anything. If I choose to do something, I do it, and nothing stops me.
I'm not unique, in this regard- there are a lot of REAL Americans like that. Sadly, as an anti-American socialist traitor, such things are beyond your understanding or experience.
But in due time, I'm quite confident that will change. :)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Apples and Oranges. Venona was a WWII War Department project because noone trusted Stalin - rightly so, apparently. And, IIRC, most of the names gathered during the course of Venona were code names those whose names were discovered were prosecuted...
No,it wasn't. It wasn't even a department. It was nothing more than a code name,and even the code name changed all the time. Venona was the code name in use with the files were made public,so they became known as the Venona Files.
Army and Navy Intelligence,the FBI,and probably every other agency in the US government contributed information that eventually found it's way to those files.
I forget now who was in primary charge of this intelligence,but I suspect it was the Defense Intelligence Agency,or it's forerunner.
Are you talking about the HUAC list? You do know that McCarthy was a Senator,right?
Yea so? Again, there wasn't a singular list but several lists compiled of artists, politicians, media figures.
Ok,so you WERE talking about the HUAC lists,and blaming a US Senator for them.
Nice try.
Since when is an accusation a presumption of guilt?
Since when is anybody found innocent of all charges if no formal charges have ever been filed and resulted in a court conviction?
And they were tried and the only charge that stuck was "contempt of Congress"...
HorseHillary. Very few were tried because no evidence could be presented against them in court without disclosing other intelligence operations or assets.
Or because they were people like Maw Roosevelt and others closely connected to King Franklin. They were and are immune to any charges.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
It is also a federal felony to claim to be a Medal of Honor winner if you're not.
See this story to see why that's not true - yet.
I believe it has been a federal felony for decades now. I think what has happened here is that he was changed under the wrong charges. The original charges are probably unknown to the prosecutor who only knows of the 2005 Stolen Valor Act.
And no,I don't remember the title of the original offense.
The way it was explained to be about impersonating a serving officer being a federal felony is because serving officers have the right (not to mention duty) of carrying loaded firearms anywhere they go,and they can't be arrested for it because if Martial Law were declared they would be the ones who became the local LEO's and Sheriffs until order was restored. If they did not have this legal right they could be arrested by local LEO's for violating local ordinances.
IIRC,this goes back to Colonial Days.
Which means chances are nobody has ever been charged under this stature in the last 200 years.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
No,it wasn't. It wasn't even a department. It was nothing more than a code name,and even the code name changed all the time. Venona was the code name in use with the files were made public,so they became known as the Venona Files.
You're challenging my knowledge of WWII history?
Yowzah...
But, you got me, Venona it was indeed a WWII MID project,
Ok,so you WERE talking about the HUAC lists,and blaming a US Senator for them.
I wasn't blaming McCarthy for anything other than using the HUAC lists that, as you know, were already in existence.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
C'mon Sneak...do I REALLY need to post that pic of MacArthur giving orders for attack on the Bonus Army?
Of course not,but the Emperor was above such things as actually mingling with common soldiers. He told Ike to get it done,and it was Ike that was on the ground and giving the orders for the attack to proceed.
This means it was Ike leading the attack by ordering Patton to proceed.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Eisenhower was nothing more than a overpaid clerk. As far as I know the only really good thing he did personally his whole life was remind everybody to "beware of the military-industrial complex" on his way out the WH door. That doesn't make up for him leading the raid on the Bonus Marchers,though. Which is the closest this General ever got to combat.
Background: Born the third of seven sons in Denison, Texas to David Jacob Eisenhower and Ida Elizabeth Stover. His father was an Engineer while his mother was a devoted follower and supporter of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah's Witnesses). The family home served as the local meeting hall for the group from 1896 to 1915. The constant and regular exposure of Eisenhower to End of the World imagery mixed with Bible prophecy by the Jehovah's Witnesses had a profound impact on him throughout his life. While he was never a gifted student, nor known for his intellect, his fascination in occult and religious power placed him more than once midst powerful men, who assisted his career. Dwight graduated from High School around 1909 at the age of 19. He then took a night shift labouring job at the Belle Springs Creamery. In 1911, Eisenhower attempted to apply for the Naval Academy but failed the basic entrance exam. In later years, his record was changed to claim he passed, but was somehow ineligible on account of his age, even though he qualified under the age limit at the time. Later that year (1911), powerful US Senator for Kansas Joseph L. Bristow used his influence to get Eisenhower into West Point Military Academy. The motivation for this act and how he came to know Eisenhower has never been properly explained. At Westpoint Eisenhower again he showed mediocre academic skills, but managed to scrape through and graduate. Unlike most of his fellow graduates, Eisenhower never saw action in World War I. Instead, he spent the first few years with the National Guard and then assigned to various new tank corps where he met General Fox Conner. He had the dubious honor of having his temporary rank of Major being revoked and being demoted back to Captain by 1922. When General Conner was appointed Camp Gaillard, Panama and the Panama Canal Zone, he made Eisenhower his executive officer - a role he held from 1922 until 1924. It was under the guidance of General Conner that Eisenhower found a grounding in essential military strategy and politics. After finishing his term with Conner, Eisenhower was promoted again to Major and attended the Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth. His career then stagnated for five years until in 1929 he was appointed Executive Assistant to General George Moseley, then Secretary of War. In 1933, he was then appointed chief military aide to General Douglas MacArthur and accompanied him to the Philippines. It was through MacArthur that Eisenhower first came to the attention of the all-powerful American Jesuit Fr. Edmund A. Walsh. MacArthur was educated by the Jesuits and Walsh was his influential patron. Eisenhower quickly became an even more deeply devoted fan of Fr. Walsh and his geopolitical mind than his superior General MacArthur. At the outbreak of World War II in 1939, Eisenhower returned from the Philippines at 49 but a Lt. Colonel. By June 1941, six months before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, Col. Eisenhower was appointed to the War Department General Staff in Washington D.C. and to a role holding the temporary rank of Brigadier General. Whatever his role in the events leading up to Pearl Harbor, he soon held favor with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, another staunch supporter of Fr. Edmund A. Walsh S.J. In December 1943, President Roosevelt announced Eisenhower, still then only officially holding the rank of Colonel would be the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, being promoted immediately to being a four star Major General - one of the most dramatic rise in promotions in American history. The announcement sent shockwaves through the US and even the Allied forces as Eisenhower was promoted over the heads of over fifty seasoned military leaders, including his former friend and mentor Douglas MacArthur - all of whom had far greater skill and merit. Upon his arrival in England in 1943, a controversial claim has been made that Eisenhower received a communique from senior members of the SS offering clear and specific terms of unconditional surrender of all German forces, including the assassination of Hitler, if the Americans would help halt the Soviet advance into Central Europe. Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion. In 1944, Eisenhower was confirmed as a Five Star General and Chief of the Army. In spite of the massive logistical superiority of the Allied forces, the Eisenhower D-Day plan very nearly failed. Again, during the Battle of the Bulge Eisenhower inexplicably ordered the halt of the encirclement of German forces enabling up to 150,000 to escape and prolonging the war a further twelve months. No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union. One man that did know the truth was Gen. George Smith Patton. On December 9th 1945, the day before he was due to fly back to Washington to meet with President Truman with proof that Eisenhower was a traitor who had costs the lives of thousands of American soldiers and millions of civilians, he was seriously injured in a road accident near Mannheim, Germany on 9 Dec 1945 (dying in hospital 21 December 1945). Miraculously the other occupants of the car in which Patton was critically injured escaped unharmed. To counter the claims and rumour mills, Eisenhower authorised the leak of stories to damage the character of Patton including blaming Patton for the escape of the 150,000 soldiers of the German army and that Patton was mentally unstable. These false rumours still persist today.
However, there can be no doubt about the direct orders of Eisenhower in Operation Keelhaul- the repatriation of over two million former Russian prisoners of war to Joseph Stalin. While the actions of Eisenhower have always been maintained as a fact of life following the Yalta Agreement between Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt, the manner and clear fate of these poor souls was nothing short of Genocide on the same level as Adolf Hitler and the SS. [Article excerpt end]
Parrot: The above article is from a website which peels the layers on leaders who have been prominent figures in Globalism from WW-1 onwards. While the Vatican/Jesuits do not Run the NWO,...they are...and certain Jesuits like Edmund Walsh,...have been guides..steering from behind the curtain.
Father Walsh with General Douglas MacArthur in Tokyo, 1948 Since WW-2 and the emergence of the IMF/World Bank,and the various thinktank groups/councils...like the CFR,The 300 Committee,Bilderbergs, Vatican/Jesuit influence has been passed off to these.
Fascinating; as this common epithet for a fuckwit like you discribes you well.
I had not expected you to understand my lifelong love of my personal metaphor for the country I am from and love. Old Ironsides never lost a battle. She inspired the citizens of this country to ave her when she reached old age and faced a normal death for a wooden ship.
Children sent their pennies to keep her with us, and she is still strong, beautiful; a piece of living poetry and heart song chiseled from live oak and iron.
I go to her and always remember why I love this place, the United States.
Nothing I am can say is going to change your delusions of grandeur regarding your own high impression of yourself, or change the mission you have to make this other then a game where you seek to drive those you hate from here.
This comprehension of your motives, what you are, and how this place is likely an outlet to relieve pressure from elements of your live causing you stress or a lack of control makes me beyond you ability to affect me.
I am enjoying watching the show, and want you to keep this up. Keep on showing us what you are and what stuff you are made of Erica.
Your tail chasing doesn't mean squat to me. ;-)
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
#295. To: Parrot with speed dial, snrakypete (#292)
The above article is from a website which peels the layers on leaders who have been prominent figures in Globalism from WW-1 onwards. While the Vatican/Jesuits do not Run the NWO,...they are...and certain Jesuits like Edmund Walsh,...have been guides..steering from behind the curtain.
IIRC Denison Texas had no documented recording of Ike's birth there and it wasn't until many years later that Mamie put the info together and had his father sign it.
But it's still fun to see ol sneaky just makin' shit up. For just being an overpaid clerk, that Eisenhower was sure busy making history.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
It is also a federal felony to claim to be a Medal of Honor winner if you're not.
See this story to see why that's not true - yet.
The Stolen Valor Act (18 U.S.C. §704) was revised in 2005. This revised version was ruled unconstitutional by the 9th Circuit in 2010. As noted, the Supreme Court has granted cert to hear the case sometime in 2012.
An infraction pertaining to the Medal of Honor provided for imprisonment for not more than one year. A federal felony is subject to imprisonment in excess of one year. The statute would only establish a misdemeanor.
The Act, as presently drafted, applies to pure speech; it imposes a criminal penalty of up to a year of imprisonment, plus a fine, for the mere utterance or writing of what is, or may be perceived as, a false statement of factwithout anything more.
[...]
The rule the government and dissent urge us to apply in order to uphold the Act would, if adopted, significantly enlarge the scope of existing categorical exceptions to First Amendment protection. All previous circumstances in which lies have been found proscribable involve not just knowing falsity, but additional elements that serve to narrow what speech may be punished. Indeed, if the Act is constitutional under the analysis proffered by Judge Bybee, then there would be no constitutional bar to criminalizing lying about ones height, weight, age, or financial status on Match.com or Facebook, or falsely representing to ones mother that one does not smoke, drink alcoholic beverages, is a virgin, or has not exceeded the speed limit while driving on the freeway. The sad fact is, most people lie about some aspects of their lives from time to time. Perhaps, in context, many of these lies are within the governments legitimate reach. But the government cannot decide that some lies may not be told without a reviewing courts undertaking a thoughtful analysis of the constitutional concerns raised by such government interference with speech.
Finding no appropriate way to avoid the First Amendment question Alvarez poses, we hold that the speech proscribed by the Act is not sufficiently confined to fit among the narrow categories of false speech previously held to be beyond the First Amendments protective sweep. We then apply strict scrutiny review to the Act, and hold it unconstitutional because it is not narrowly tailored to achieving a compelling governmental interest.
In December 1943, President Roosevelt announced Eisenhower, still then only officially holding the rank of Colonel would be the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, being promoted immediately to being a four star Major General - one of the most dramatic rise in promotions in American history. The announcement sent shockwaves through the US and even the Allied forces as Eisenhower was promoted over the heads of over fifty seasoned military leaders, including his former friend and mentor Douglas MacArthur - all of whom had far greater skill and merit.
As much as it pains me to say this,this was a brilliant move by King Franklin. Eisenhower was the perfect man for that slot. While he was never much of anything as a soldier,he was a superb politician,and a politician is what that job needed,not a strategic and tactical military mind. What King Franklin (and the world) needed in that position was a man that could sooth the egos of some pretty massive prima donnas like Patton,Montgomery,and DeGaulle,and get them to work together. I suspect herding cats would have been a task easier to accomplish.
Can you imagine the nightmare that Patton or Dougout Doug would have created if they had been appointed to that position?
And that WAS Eisenhower's job in the ETO. King Franklin had the JCS to plan strategy. What he needed in England was a "Yes Man" that would follow orders and play nice with others. He got that in Ike.
Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion.
Anybody that thinks it was Eisenhower made that decision is either ignorant of how the army works,or is delusional. That decision was made in the WH and at the Pentagram in the office of the JCS.
To counter the claims and rumour mills, Eisenhower authorised the leak of stories to damage the character of Patton including blaming Patton for the escape of the 150,000 soldiers of the German army and that Patton was mentally unstable.
Patton WAS mentally unstable. I have talked with soldiers that served under him in WW-2,and they were all in agreement that he was both insane and a asshole. One of these men was childhood friends of my parents that was drafted in WW-2,and ended up winning a DSC and battlefield promotion in North Africa,ending up as a 1st Lt and Armor platoon leader.
BTW,being mentally unstable doesn't mean he was wrong when it came to how to win the war and the danger of the Soviets,though.
No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union.
Once again,that decision was above his paygrade. It was made in the WH by King Franklin,who was looking out for his Soviet buddies. That's the way it works in America. The President makes the decisions,and the military salutes and says "Yes Sir!"
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
An infraction pertaining to the Medal of Honor provided for imprisonment for not more than one year. A federal felony is subject to imprisonment in excess of one year. The statute would only establish a misdemeanor.
I stand corrected. Thanks.
At least technically. The few cases I know of where someone has gone to jail for falsely claiming a MoH always involved profiting from that claim. Which would make it a fraud and a felony. Telling your neighbor you earned a MoH is one thing. Telling audiences on speaking tours or using those credentials in order to establish your "legend" in order to promote your business and get contracts is something altogether different.
Finding no appropriate way to avoid the First Amendment question Alvarez poses, we hold that the speech proscribed by the Act is not sufficiently confined to fit among the narrow categories of false speech previously held to be beyond the First Amendments protective sweep.
Alvarez was wrong to compare claims of earning a MoH to simple everyday lying,and you would have to be blind to not see it.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Have YOU ever read one with a coach nearby to explain them to you?
You know,somebody capable of having a actual thought that MIGHT be willing to put up with you?
There are reasons why people are Dims,ranging from shallow gene pools to fetal alcohol syndrome,being dropped on the head a lot,being given acid instead of children's aspirin while a child,etc,etc,etc.
I keep wondering what your story is.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Have YOU ever read one with a coach nearby to explain them to you?
You know,somebody capable of having a actual thought that MIGHT be willing to put up with you?
There are reasons why people are Dims,ranging from shallow gene pools to fetal alcohol syndrome,being dropped on the head a lot,being given acid instead of children's aspirin while a child,etc,etc,etc.
#308. To: sneakypete, Parrot with speed dial (#297)
As much as it pains me to say this,this was a brilliant move by King Franklin. Eisenhower was the perfect man for that slot. While he was never much of anything as a soldier,he was a superb politician,and a politician is what that job needed,not a strategic and tactical military mind. What King Franklin (and the world) needed in that position was a man that could sooth the egos of some pretty massive prima donnas like Patton,Montgomery,and DeGaulle,and get them to work together. I suspect herding cats would have been a task easier to accomplish.
Can you imagine the nightmare that Patton or Dougout Doug would have created if they had been appointed to that position?
And that WAS Eisenhower's job in the ETO. King Franklin had the JCS to plan strategy. What he needed in England was a "Yes Man" that would follow orders and play nice with others. He got that in Ike.
I agree - FDR needed a babysitter. Ike's role was performed perfectly.
Oddly enough, by the time Ike became President, the role of President seemed more like a figure head and puppet of the Elite puppetmeisters.
As you've pointed out, Ike gave his warning about the "military-industrial complex" - he was signaling it wasn't he as President who was pulling the strings.
#310. To: Parrot with speed dial, sneakypete (#292)
Upon his arrival in England in 1943, a controversial claim has been made that Eisenhower received a communique from senior members of the SS offering clear and specific terms of unconditional surrender of all German forces, including the assassination of Hitler, if the Americans would help halt the Soviet advance into Central Europe.
Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion.
In 1944, Eisenhower was confirmed as a Five Star General and Chief of the Army. In spite of the massive logistical superiority of the Allied forces, the Eisenhower D-Day plan very nearly failed. Again, during the Battle of the Bulge Eisenhower inexplicably ordered the halt of the encirclement of German forces enabling up to 150,000 to escape and prolonging the war a further twelve months. No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union.
One man that did know the truth was Gen. George Smith Patton. On December 9th 1945, the day before he was due to fly back to Washington to meet with President Truman with proof that Eisenhower was a traitor who had costs the lives of thousands of American soldiers and millions of civilians, he was seriously injured in a road accident near Mannheim, Germany on 9 Dec 1945 (dying in hospital 21 December 1945).
Fascinating stuff.
Were there any witnesses or any documentation of the supposed German surrender terms from 1943?
There's no question that Ike, FDR, his Commie overlords or whomever sandbagged the advance of the US military and sabotaged our own efforts by the end of WWII.
Cutting a deal with Stalin and the American Commies did NOT work out well; It should have been ridiculed by everyone at the time. So for all Patton's mouthy warnings and loathing of the Soviets, HE was right, and FDR was wrong. He smelled the stench of rot from DC and had had it. Some things never change...
Btw, a program has been running on the History Channel (I believe) where three historical researchers explore the mystery of Patton's odd death in depth, speaking to those who'd known Patton - as well as his grand-daughter. They even traveled to the US Army Medical Hospital in Heidelberg, Germany.
Of course after speaking to Army personnel, they conclude it to be purely "accidental," just like the "official" report. I was shocked. /s
Fascinating; as this common epithet for a fuckwit like you discribes you well.
Oh, goody.
An upscale version of "I know you are, but what am I?"
This is what passes for leftist intellect, eh?
Feh.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Sorry, Junior, but Boofer has already beaten you to the Irony of The Day award...
His prize winning entry was laughing at someone - me - being accused of posting on political websites 24/7. The accusation was leveled by the owner here, who should have won in his own right, or to be ironic *chuckles* myself, write but management and employees are ineligible for prizes.
Please feel free to submit a new entry in our daily Irony of the Day contest tomorrow...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Fascinating; as this common epithet for a fuckwit like you discribes you well.
Oh, goody.
An upscale version of "I know you are, but what am I?"
This is what passes for leftist intellect, eh?
Feh.
So no proof of your assertion about Mike... Day 2.
You need to go back to reading your fairy tales about Good Knights versus Bad Knights, but first get those nasty commies that are hiding under your bed... out, before the guards do the cell checks for contraband.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
So no proof of your assertion about Mike... Day 2.
YOU wanted me to prove that you're a liar, and I DID.
8^)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Sorry, Junior, but Boofer has already beaten you to the Irony of The Day award...
Actually, YOU are the winner...
Claiming to be "a broker," while not knowing SHIT about economics!!!
I have to admit, THAT made me laugh.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
See my previous statement about being too late to claim The Irony of the Day award...I did appreciate the hearty laugh that you gave me last night when you claimed that decreasing revenues while increasing spending did not cause debt.
Thanks...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
See my previous statement about being too late to claim The Irony of the Day award...I did appreciate the hearty laugh that you gave me last night when you claimed that decreasing revenues while increasing spending did not cause debt.
I bet you're not taking an advanced degree from Glenn Beck University like Erica is, are you?
Capitalist Eric: Claiming to be "a broker," dummy Dwarf: I'm not claiming anything, Junior. I am.
Yeah, and responsible for $12K of revenue in what, 6 hours? LMAO. You pat yourself on the back for doing such a piddley-ass job...
What' the net, boy? Gross revenues don't mean sh!t.
I did appreciate the hearty laugh that you gave me last night when you claimed that decreasing revenues while increasing spending did not cause debt.
Please provide the EXACT quote where I said that.
Oh, BTW, your failure to do so will be taken as admission (by you), that you're a lying POS.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
YOU wanted me to prove that you're a liar, and I DID.
8^)
Then where's you email correspondence with Goldi? Plus the evidence for your claims against Mike? There were two parts to the equation and you failed to fulfill either.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
You challenged me to prove that you're a liar, and I DID.
8^)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
POS: I did appreciate the hearty laugh that you gave me last night when you claimed that decreasing revenues while increasing spending did not cause debt. Capitalist Eric: Please provide the EXACT quote where I said that. POS: It [debt] isn't due to the tax cuts AT ALL. The data I posted makes that VERY clear.
The ACTUAL conversation included the following:
As of January, 2010, our existing national debt- NET of projected tax receipts over the next 50 years- is $200 TRILLION. This includes: Social Security ($17,500,000,000,000.00, $17.5 trillion) Medicare Part A ($36,700,000,000,000.00, $36.7 trillion) Medicare Part B ($37,000,000,000,000.00, $37 trillion) Medicare Part D ($15,600,000,000,000 underfunded, $15.6 trillion) Government and military pensions ($2,000,000,000,000, $2 trillion), etc.
You get the idea. We're bankrupt, because government made SPENDING promises it could not hope to actually fulfill. Instead, they promised goodies in return for votes. ...... According to the Federal Reserves most recent report on wealth, Americas private net worth was $53.4 trillion as of September, 2009. But at the same time, Americas debt and unfunded liabilities totaled at least $120,000,000,000,000.00 ($120 trillion), or 225% of the citizens net worth. Even if the government expropriated every dollar of private wealth in the nation, it would still have a deficit of $66,600,000,000,000.00 ($66.6 trillion), equal to $214,286.00 for every man, woman and child in America and roughly 500% of GDP. If the government does not directly seize the nations private wealth, then it will require $389,610 from each and every citizen to balance the countrys books. State, county and municipal debts and deficits are additional, already elephantine in many states (e.g., California, Illinois, New Jersey and New York) and growing at an alarming rate nationwide. In addition to the federal government, dozens of states are already bankrupt and sinking deeper into the morass every day. ...... ...If the government decides to expropriate (steal) or commandeer (e.g., force into Treasuries) Americas private wealth in order to buy survival time, such a measure will be designed to destroy the common citizens, not the elite. Insiders will be given advance warning about any such plan, and will be able to transfer their money offshore or into financial vehicles immune from harm. Assuming that the elite moves its money to safety, there would then be $120,000,000,000,000.00 ($120 trillion) in American debt and liabilities supported by only $32,000,000,000,000.00 ($32 trillion) in private net worth, for a deficit of $88,000,000,000,000.00 ($88 trillion). In that case, each American would owe $285,714.29 to balance the countrys books. (Remember to multiply this amount by every person in your household, including any infant children.)
...If the common people suspect that something diabolical was in the works, a portion of the $32 trillion in non-elite wealth could be evacuated as well prior to a government expropriation and/or currency devaluation, resulting in less money for the government to steal. What these statistics mean is that it is absolutely impossible for the government to fund its debt and deficits, even if it steals all of the nations private wealth. Therefore, the governments only solutions are either formal bankruptcy (outright debt repudiation and the dismantling of bankrupt government programs) or unprecedented American monetary inflation and debt monetization. If the government chooses to inflate its way out of this fiscal catastrophe, the United States dollar will essentially become worthless.
I provided the data that SHOWS it's a spending problem, not a tax problem, and you twist it into a complete lie.
Translation: You can't provide the exact quote, so YOU'RE LYING YOUR ASS OFF AGAIN.
Oh, there's something ELSE I wrote, that you have now confirmed:
You want to keep believing the bullshit about "soak the rich," then fine, you go ahead and swallow those lies.
But at the end of the day, they're just lies, and you KNOW it.
So don't give me your sh!t about how you give a crap about the little people, and what "fair" is all about... Because you're not about that...
You're all about YOU.
Being a broker, and promoting the status quo, I was spot-on, when I said that... It really is ALL ABOUT YOU. It's all about lining your POCKETS...
You are truly despicable.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
I challenged you FIRST to prove YOUR premise about Mike.
And I ignored it. You've no standing to challenge me over any conversation with someone else.
You wanna' talk smack about me, and then challenge me to PROVE you're a liar...? Oh, yeah, of COURSE I'm slap you down. You were stupid enough, arrogant enough to think I couldn't prove the point.
Your mistake.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Oddly enough, by the time Ike became President, the role of President seemed more like a figure head and puppet of the Elite puppetmeisters.
Since all he really did was play golf and smile a lot,it worked out really well.
As you've pointed out, Ike gave his warning about the "military-industrial complex" - he was signaling it wasn't he as President who was pulling the strings.
I would say it was more of a case of a president who was tired of having HIS strings pulled by these very same creatures,and a man familiar enough with military procurement and operations that he truly understood the danger to our Republic it represented.
After all,you don't have to be the first in your class to realize you need to get off the tracks when there is a train bearing down on you.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
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Patton even said that Ike was the best clerk he ever had.
Wasn't it MacArthur who said that?
May have been. I know Ike worked under Big Mac,and I THINK he may have worked under Patton at one point or another. Patton was his superior until Ike rocketed right up 5 paygrades without going to jail or collecting 200 dollars.
Then again,it could have been both of them. It ain't like either one was very lacking when it came to self-image or pettiness.
Both were brilliant men in their own right,and in Patton's case truly fearless to top it off,but they both surely had their own VERY big flaws.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Were there any witnesses or any documentation of the supposed German surrender terms from 1943?
There were several attempts by the German High Command to make a separate peace with the west,and they were all turned down. The most common reason/explanation given is that the Germans wanted a negotiated surrender leaving the Germans in charge of Germany,and the Allies wanted a unconditional surrender. Mostly the Brits and the Soviets.
AFAIK there is zero controversy over this. It is a established historical fact that the German Military kept trying to surrender,and kept getting ignored. Even Rommel was a part of the conspiracy. He managed to avoid being hanged on a meat hook,but a lot of the other senior officers weren't so lucky.
The one German Waffen war hero (Stauffenberg) that tried to blow up Hitler's bunker and kill Hitler. Tom Cruise recently starred in a movie about this and played the role of Stauffenberg. Even though the Allies refused to accept their surrender terms,the senior officers thought killing Hitler would be a good move that might cause public opinion to demand the Allies negotiate a surrender if Hitler were killed.
Here is a interesting link with attempts to kill Hitler listed.
This is the first time I ever heard that Ike was the one that made the decision to do this,though. Probably because the mere suggestion that a theater General or anybody else in the military had the authority to turn down a surrender during a war would result in howls of laughter.
That type of thing is a political decision,not a military one. Soldiers,sailors,and Marines may accept the surrender of enemy soldiers,but it takes a nation to accept the surrender of a nation.
So for all Patton's mouthy warnings and loathing of the Soviets, HE was right, and FDR was wrong. He smelled the stench of rot from DC and had had it.
Yup. Not much doubt about that. Nor is there much doubt that Patton would have beaten Truman like a rented mule if he had came back to the US,put in his retirement papers,and announced he was running for President as a Republican. Patton was the Rock Star General of WW-2. "The American Rommel". He was wildly popular with the citizens for all his victories during the war.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
I'm gonna' give you a little tip, you weren't aware of...
Rat-boy didn't call me a liar and dare me to *prove* my point, because I would have easily done so.
The *only* thing you said today that wasn't a lie, is when you said "the database doesn't lie."
Rat-boy knows that... So give credit where it's due: he wasn't so stupid as to lie, and then challenge me to prove he lied.
YOU were *were*.
And I must confess, today was made FAR more enjoyable, by rubbing your nose in your own shit.
If you choose to pretend it's roses...? Whatever.
We *both* know better.
You're a stupid, LYING bitch, and I *proved* it.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#335. To: Capitalist Eric, Ferret Mike (#334)(Edited)
Rat-boy knows that... So give credit where it's due: he wasn't so stupid as to lie, and then challenge me to prove he lied.
YOU were *were*.
And I must confess, today was made FAR more enjoyable, by rubbing your nose in your own shit.
If you choose to pretend it's roses...? Whatever.
We *both* know better.
You're a stupid, LYING bitch, and I *proved* it.
I challenged you to put your money where your mouth is twice and you failed both times. I really don't care if Mike wanted to challenge you or not, I did and you as usual came up short again, Vinnie.
Even Libby and Calcon were busting your propaganda pushing ass over there, no wonder you crawled over here like a snake. And I even agree with you about Palin, I just don't agree with your tactics.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
The way it was explained to be about impersonating a serving officer being a federal felony is because serving officers have the right (not to mention duty) of carrying loaded firearms anywhere they go,and they can't be arrested for it because if Martial Law were declared they would be the ones who became the local LEO's and Sheriffs until order was restored. If they did not have this legal right they could be arrested by local LEO's for violating local ordinances.
It also extends to civilians dressing up as a military member and trying to access military establishments, files and information.......
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But it seems like I only see the same ones over and over and over..... what's up with that???? Are they the only "skinny" ones doing porn nowadays or have all the others just "blimped" out????
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
Since all he really did was play golf and smile a lot,it worked out really well.
Lol. And so that's when the Presidential golfing and scripted decisions all began?
I would say it was more of a case of a president who was tired of having HIS strings pulled by these very same creatures,and a man familiar enough with military procurement and operations that he truly understood the danger to our Republic it represented.
Fair enough assessment. After having his chain yanked (and yanking others) I guess his recognition of the charade was better late than never. Not that it was in time to help reverse the future damage.
You don't have to be the first in your class to realize you need to get off the tracks when there is a train bearing down on you.
Which is why I believe so few Americans of honor and integrity are willing to run for office. Selling their soul and succumbing to the institutional globalist cabal is too high a personal price.
#339. To: sneakypete, Parrot with speed dial (#331)
There were several attempts by the German High Command to make a separate peace with the west,and they were all turned down. The most common reason/explanation given is that the Germans wanted a negotiated surrender leaving the Germans in charge of Germany,and the Allies wanted a unconditional surrender. Mostly the Brits and the Soviets....
A nice try, but...
It is a established historical fact that the German Military kept trying to surrender,and kept getting ignored. Even Rommel was a part of the conspiracy...Tom Cruise recently starred in a movie about [the conspiracy to kill Hitler] and played the role of Stauffenberg.
Cruise 's casting as von Stauffenberg prevented me from watching what would have been a very interesting movie for me. Hess's solo flight to Ireland was the first indication that some Germans had second thoughts about the "Today Germany, Tomorrow ze Vorld" thingy. After watching in horror as Hitler sacrificed the German Army outside Stalingrad had to clinch this notion for a number of military high command.
That type of thing is a political decision,not a military one. Soldiers,sailors,and Marines may accept the surrender of enemy soldiers,but it takes a nation to accept the surrender of a nation.
Hear ya. Of the German offer to surrender was the question of authority as was the acceptance of such surrender to finalize the terms.
Nor is there much doubt that Patton would have beaten Truman like a rented mule if he had came back to the US,put in his retirement papers,and announced he was running for President as a Republican. Patton was the Rock Star General of WW-2. "The American Rommel". He was wildly popular with the citizens for all his victories during the war.
Fascinating to think about were Patton to have spilled all the beans AND ran for office. Make a good movie, don't you think? Like JFK, there were any number of people who had reason to have Patton silenced - including Ike, the State Dept, the Ruskies, the Dems, the *American* Commies, and of course the globalist-elites who called all the shots.
It seems like I only see the same ones over and over and over..... what's up with that???? Are they the only "skinny" ones doing porn nowadays or have all the others just "blimped" out????
I would start by canceling your subscription to 'The Anorexic Porn Channel' immediately. Rib cage and sunken-eye fetishes are way overrated...
OTOH, I hear 'The Big Beautiful Whale-Azz' porn channel is becoming increasingly more popular. Try it as a refreshing change of pace.
That is just some examples of bad governance by him [0bama]. I support the new health care legislation, withdrawing the troops from Iraq, the stimulus packages for the most part, and we do concur on things, but he is not my ideal POTUS. He never was in th first place.
The first thing he did was allow a major timber sale in the Tsongas national Park in Alaska. He is oppressing cannabis instead of moving toward legalized and regulated like alcohol and tobacco, he has not prosecuted Smirk and Snarl for blowing up the twin towers and for putting a missile into the Pentagon.
You've just enumerated reasons that 0bama is a fraud (from a socialist/Green standpoint.) And also exposed is his pro-Muslim position regarding the LACK of prosecutions as well as his coincidental position on even medicinal pot.
Of your reasons to support this Communist and Annihilator of American institutions, traditions, and heritage, they are pretty flimsy. Even you have to admit it.
I understand why you support the *concept* of affordable health care for all, but that's NOT what 0bamaCare is all about. Moreover, his program is patently over-officious, intrusive, unfair, inequitable, elitist in its policy, promises, AND not economically feasible in the least.
Sure - most Americans now concur with you that the troops - not just the ones in Iraq, but Afghanistan as well. What's taken 0bama so long? And why has he left the troops in A-Stan? Do you endorse his interference and warmongering in Libya? Yemen? Do you support his endorsement of the 'Arab Spring? Why didn't he support the 'Arab Spring' in Iran?
Mike, that so-called "Stimulus" of 0bama's wasn't helpful to the economy or job situation in the least - come on! And haven't you been following the corruption of Solyndra and funding funneled to ACORN and other special interest/partisan groups?
What of his involvement in 'Fast and Furious'? His laziness and indifference in helping stop the Gulf oil spill? His ubiquitous personal racist divisiveness (and that of his DoJ?)
I would argue that his political ideology compels him to undermine America, capitalism, and our very sovereignty at both a national and state level.
Why give this guy a pass at all? He's as much ruining this country for me and my kids and much as he's undermining it for yours.
You can't dwell on the fact that because he's a black man he must necessarily be given the benefit of doubt. If 0bama were a white man with his record, he's have already been the subject of Impeachment Hearings - he's THAT bad.
You're too smart to be conned any further by guy at this point.
I challenged you to put your money where your mouth is twice and you failed both times.
ANOTHER lie.
You made two challenges. One of which, you DID have the right to make, the other you did NOT.
So I answered your challenge. You're desperately trying to spin this away. After all, you consider yourself intellectually and morally superior. Going by that viewpoint, how someone as low as I am (according to your perspective) so easily make you look like such a fool?
Such a result is inconceivable, yet that's exactly what happened.
The answer is really quite simple... in fact, it's so simple, that you really can't bring yourself to believe it...
You were stupid, and you lied. THEN you challenged me to prove you lied.
So I did. I proved you're a lying cunt.
Your responses since then, demonstrate that (contrary to your view of yourself), not only are you not morally superior (being the lying cunt you are), but you're not too fucking bright, either.
You get your ass handed to you on a daily basis, and yet you keep coming back for more... Why? Because you're the retard that everyone plays the joke on... you laugh, thinking it's funny... But YOU are the joke, and everyone laughs AT you.
It's time for you to move on. You've LOST, and that's the end of the story.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Fair enough assessment. After having his chain yanked (and yanking others) I guess his recognition of the charade was better late than never. Not that it was in time to help reverse the future damage.
No matter what anybody says about Ike,nobody can ever say he was a egotist that put himself ahead of others or his country. IMHO,it was this lack of ego that got him promoted from LTC to 4 Star General.
BTW,I am NOT saying he was lacking in ego to the point he was self-effacing,but compared to all the other Generals he was practically a Eagle Scout. "Modesty" in not a term you EVER hear attached to Generals. Ever. They ain't type A personalities,they are Type AAA personalities. McArthur was just more obvious than most.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Cruise 's casting as von Stauffenberg prevented me from watching what would have been a very interesting movie for me.
Me,too. Von Stauffenberg was a serious man and a serious soldier that was prepared to give up his own life and bring harm to his family in order to save his country,not a pretty boy.
Hess's solo flight to Ireland was the first indication that some Germans had second thoughts about the "Today Germany, Tomorrow ze Vorld" thingy.
Yeah,and we all saw what THAT got him,prison for his entire life,despite him being the one Nazi completely innocent of war crimes.
Fascinating to think about were Patton to have spilled all the beans AND ran for office. Make a good movie, don't you think?
LOL!Nobody ever called Patton a shrinking violet,so there can be no doubt that he would have made everything he knew about war mismanagement and official corruption public and even gone so far as to name names. The biggest problem with a movie about him would be nobody that grew up today would believe it was anything but fiction. IMHO,this is as responsible for the murder conspiracies as anything else. NOBODY was under the illusion that Patton could really be controlled.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
No matter what anybody says about Ike,nobody can ever say he was a egotist that put himself ahead of others or his country. IMHO,it was this lack of ego that got him promoted from LTC to 4 Star General.
Good call from what I've seen, heard and read.
I guess that's like saying he's the ultimate politician. For a two-term President, Ike never seemed to be hated by anyone or provoked strong emotions either way. Obviously, no one forgot his standing as the winning WWII General of the European Theater of Operation.
BTW,I am NOT saying he was lacking in ego to the point he was self-effacing,but compared to all the other Generals he was practically a Eagle Scout. "Modesty" in not a term you EVER hear attached to Generals. Ever. They ain't type A personalities,they are Type AAA personalities. McArthur was just more obvious than most.
I agree - a guy who was both a thousand-star general and President, he was extremely modest. A unicorn by any standard.
Nice (but failed) try by the German generals to convince the allies that a conditional surrender was palatable. My bad at explaining my thought.
Von Stauffenberg was a serious man and a serious soldier that was prepared to give up his own life and bring harm to his family in order to save his country,not a pretty boy.
I'd read that von Staffenberg was a serious military man of great integrity, respected by many; he was badly injured in as well in action. To see Tom Cruise trying to pull that personality and look off (including eye-patch) seemed almost comical to me. Although the word was that von Staffenberg was a handsome man, he wasn't a pretty-boy. Cruise brought to much cutsy/pretty-boy baggage with him from his movies. Too bad for us - it should have been a good movie.
Yeah,and we all saw what THAT got him [Hess], prison for his entire life,despite him being the one Nazi completely innocent of war crimes.
Hadn't thought about that perspective. But even Speer served 20 years for being a Nazi architect. Maybe it was assumed Hitler's inner-circle of Nazi pals weren't as innocent as claimed.
LOL!Nobody ever called Patton a shrinking violet,so there can be no doubt that he would have made everything he knew about war mismanagement and official corruption public and even gone so far as to name names. The biggest problem with a movie about him would be nobody that grew up today would believe it was anything but fiction.
The chaos he would have created by simply stating the truth would have been really hard to believe. Problem for Ike and the elites was Patton was believed AND believable - despite his rep as a little nuts. Heck, it's scarcely believed today that 0bama is gay, a Marxist, a Muslim, and attended a "Hate-Whitey!" church for 20 years, and it's been proven.
IMHO,this is as responsible for the murder conspiracies as anything else. NOBODY was under the illusion that Patton could really be controlled.
Yep. Almost anyone could have had a motive to off Patton.
#356. To: A K A Stone, Godwinson, Fred Mertz, Liberator (#0)
Who would like to see him post here again?
I am in on the vote for a thumb's UP! Yet, this is a stinkin' little out of the way NAZI chit chat forum/website that is completely mismanaged by some asshole; I won't mention any names; nope; MUMS THE WORD!. Of course, I am NOT referring to Moderator X; he is a good guy. So there must be only one in "authority" that I am talking about.
Knowing A K A Stone with respect to his antics, he has no clue. Watch this post get raped ... very typical, too.
Nice (but failed) try by the German generals to convince the allies that a conditional surrender was palatable. My bad at explaining my thought.
No problemo : ).....look where our conversation went ,...and how it was enlarged
sneakypete noted correctly in the article I posted that Ike did not make the calls which historians claim created an extended war and loss of American lives. I got to thinking about WW-2 and the Globalist agenda of that time, question....Who would have an intelligence service which was extant to Russia,Europe,and America....capable of soft influence and critical intervention to change the outcome of events? The many resources on the net[Historical works/evidences]... which place the Jesuits and Vatican in this slot sits well with me. I think the Globalists use* whichever medium/mediums can best effect their plans. Since the creation of the IMF/World Bank,...the 300 Group,CFR,Bilderbergs etc,....the torch appears to have been passed off to these worker houses. and yet...The Pope..just recently stated that the World needs a global banking system In the movie Patton,..at the end,...he walks down a hall to be dismissed,..on his way down the hall....you see the Bust of a Caesar. next..he is walking in an open field by a windmill. Don Quixote.....tilting at Windmills,...a Jesuit symbol excerpt: But who is this character Don Quixote? The Jesuit Carroll Quigley once said, Look at the real situations which lie beneath the conceptual and verbal symbols. So lets take his advice. Quixote was satirically characterized as the epically famous madman of Azpeitia. If we start with Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, the author of Don Quixote, we discover that not only was he a strict Roman Catholic it is believed that he also attended a Jesuit school in 1566: Cervantes is likely [to have] enrolled in a Jesuit high school (colegio).[12] Next we find that Cervantes book Don Quixote expressly refers to the pope as His Holiness the Pope and his holiness Pope Pius V of happy memory. (pp. 138, 331).
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... So who was this character represented by the original Don Quixote of whom Cervantes wrote so affectionately? It was Ignatius Loyola [13]....
.... Catholic professor Miguel de Unamuno in his book [16] draws parallels between Don Quixote and the life of the founder of the Jesuit Order, Ignatius of Loyola, their Lord. And the Jesuit-trained Voltaire wrote, the only difference between Loyola and the Quixote, is that Don Quixote had a horse and an esquire, but Ignatius was not provided with either.[17][end]
Parrot....so ya....These symbols at the end of the Movie Patton indicate to me that the Jesuits had Patton ended.
It's time for you to move on. You've LOST, and that's the end of the story.
Why? Because you're banned form LP and can't go crawling back? The Bozo feature works as good here as it does over there, where you said you had half the posters there on it.
And as far as liars go, I'm still waiting for the proof of your own statement about Mike.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
OTOH, I hear 'The Big Beautiful Whale-Azz' porn channel is becoming increasingly more popular. Try it as a refreshing change of pace.
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
I pity that poor cat, I bet it walks sideways now with it's head cocked off to one side!!!!!!
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
And now we'll all have to guess which LF's eHarmony caricature it is....
Now that's a scary thought, knowing you may have traded posts with them sometime in the past!!!!
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
Why are you Tea Baggers always so obsessed with feces? Is it another one of those images that bond you guys together? If so, can't you just mail photos of your 'calling cards' to each other and leave the rest of polite society out of your 'loop'.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
"Ooooh....You're gonna have to pay for that zinger, Mike...."
Erica pays every time she looks in the mirror. This is something she has to do every day to shave and thus is inesccapable.
Me, I have posted a long time and am good at the fast scan of people's posts and scrolling past the tripe in them; like when I look at Mad Dog Steve's crap or that of his little sibling Erica.
You can pay when you don't see the prose inspired by mental illness.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
Why are you Tea Baggers always so obsessed with feces?
Because it's the image that most accurately describes what Liberalism and Progressivism is.....
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
"Makes one wonder if any are actually toilet trained."
It's ironic, quite often Daily Kos and D.U. are the only sort of forums one can get past the nannyware filters that one often needs if you have kids at your place.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
Eric may be angry, but it's a righteous anger. He's a conservative who's p*ssed at the liberal-left's agenda. I get it.
Unlike the hard-core House Commies here, you've got one foot IN, and one foot OUT of the Sea of Insanity. IMO at least you can be reasoned with...at times...when you happen to remember that 0bama is screwing with your liberties as well.
Yet it's something you thirteen year olds have to also produce on a regular basis, so does that include you in the description?
So what is this another "I know you are but what am I" session or the pot "TRYING" to call the kettle black????
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
So what is this another "I know you are but what am I" session or the pot "TRYING" to call the kettle black????
So..... do you see any Tea Baggers out there getting hit with bean bags or Maced? Of course not. They are safely working with their Republican candidates in the halls of DC, being bribed to remain compliant.
Or maybe you are having visual hallucinations.
I know! You guys are down at the local sanitation district facilities collecting some of your favorite ammo.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
And now we'll all have to guess which LF's eHarmony caricature it is....
You know I think I've figured out who on the Left it describes the best.....
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
It's already been established that the House Commies here at LF aren't here to debate, they're here to antagonize, obfuscate, deflect, and otherwise shill for 0bama, the Dems, and the Commie Revolution.
I found calcon had been following me around, when I started my computer, and the cookies had been reset.
If you like, check the replies from me to calcon, and you'll see what I mean.
As to your... unsophisticated... attempt at humor, perhaps applying a few more neurons on your part, would make you more successful in your attempts at witty bantor.
But then again, I'm probably overestimating you.
Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.
Capitalist Eric posted on 2010-10-03 23:24:38 ET
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#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#5) (Edited)
I am more familiar with Linux then windoz, which until I repave is the only OS on the laptop I use for forums. I stick to wifi while here, as I am picky as to who gets my home IP# and ISP.
In my experience, I've found people who accuse others of stalking them on the Internet as being overly paranoid and worrying about too much.
But if I were too cautious, I wouldn't be using my real name in here, and anyone is welcome to come and look for me on my home turf if they are open about it.
But you feel free to worry and fret about that you wish too. I don't care.
I think the Globalists use* whichever medium/mediums can best effect their plans.
I agree. These groups are nothing more than handy tools.
and yet...The Pope..just recently stated that the World needs a global banking system.
That is one of the oldest organized crime organizations in the world. Why would anybody expect them to give up so easily after so many years in the game? They lust after a return to the lost power and wealth they once had.
Don't make the mistake of thinking the Catholics are the only players in this game,though. The Hebrews and the Muslims are also players.
This competition for control is what has driven the wars of the last couple of centuries.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
That must mean that you are ready to apologize like a real man for all the names
Everything is relative. Lucysmom being brilliant to you is the equivalent of praising with faint damns,since the typical rabid rat is brilliant compared to you.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Everything is relative. Lucysmom being brilliant to you is the equivalent of praising with faint damns,since the typical rabid rat is brilliant compared to you.
Then that gibberish rant means you will finally 'man up' and apologize to her?
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
But your obsessive need to divide and pigeon hole has been duly noted.
And this is supposed to mean "WHAT" to "WHO"????
So is this where I'm supposed to say I'm scared now????
ROTFLMAO!!!!
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
It's already been established that the House Commies here at LF aren't here to debate, they're here to antagonize, obfuscate, deflect, and otherwise shill for 0bama, the Dems, and the Commie Revolution.
That's true,but most of them are stupid sheeple that have never had an original thought in their lives and don't understand what they are doing.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
So..... do you see any Tea Baggers out there getting hit with bean bags or Maced?
Maybe it's because.....
A). They aren't stupid enough to be out there in the first place.....
B). They are at work!!!!
C). And when they aren't working they have better things to do....
D). All of the above.....
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
I know! You guys are down at the local sanitation district facilities collecting some of your favorite ammo.
Now why would we be saving Liberals from a fate they so richly deserve????
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
So is this where you tell me you are having feelings of inadequacy????
"CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! Slap the shit out of a Leftard today, it won't help but at least you will feel better!!!!
Just imagine if the founding fathers had a list like CZs ...
CZ for sure wouldn't have approved of their actions. Surely the founding fathers could have found many ways to cash in on their fellow colonists rather than put a target on their own backs.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#413. To: sneakypete, Parrot with speed dial (#397)(Edited)
I think the Globalists use* whichever medium/mediums can best effect their plans.
That is one of the oldest organized crime organizations in the world. Why would anybody expect them to give up so easily after so many years in the game? They lust after a return to the lost power and wealth they once had.
Don't make the mistake of thinking the Catholics are the only players in this game,though. The Hebrews and the Muslims are also players.
This competition for control is what has driven the wars of the last couple of centuries.
The globalists now have a green light to do whatever they want. They own DC. The own the media. They own the bank.
It appears the usual and traditional cast of world power elites are going for the throat, colluding to completely stomp out any rogue elements of pro-sovereignty players and nations. Iraq, Libya and Egypt are now under control despite the illusion of the so-called "Arab Spring."
Once the Unholy Alliance sorts put that pesky sovereignty problem they've had with a stubborn US, all that's left is for the One World Governance is to divvy up the middle class's loot and land and serfs. Ye olde Vatican Empire, British Empire, Bluebloods, Rothchild Banksters, and Secular Hebrews will all again be Kings of this World.
China appears to be unwilling participants of the Western Globalists chess game. For now.
I don't think the Muslims have any place reserved at the globalists' table - it appears they are mere bogeymen and tools-by-design. They appear well-suited to the role (as are the illegal Mexicans) of disrupting Western cultures and economies, challenging host sovereignties, and keeping us in a perpetual state of "crisis." On behalf of the global elites of course.
Expect ever more intrusive draconian security measures in order to "keep us safe."
The globalists now have a green light to do whatever they want. They own DC. The own the media. They own the bank.
Absolutely,and this means they have won and own it all. The only open question is "Who sits at the head of the board table at "Global Inc"?"
Iraq, Libya and Egypt are now under control despite the illusion of the so-called "Arab Spring."
Can you say "Saudi Arabia"?
Ye olde Vatican Empire, British Empire, Bluebloods, Rothchild Banksters, and Secular Hebrews will all again be Kings of this World.
Yup,it's taken them a long time to make their comeback,but it does seem they have accomplished it.
China appears to be unwilling participants of the Western Globalists chess game.
IMHO,China is a VERY willing participant in this game. They have no choice because when the dust settles,they will be the only roadblock to the western elites owning and controlling the world. Their job is to control Asia and protect it and them from western domination.
I don't think the Muslims have any place reserved at the globalists' table - it appears they are mere bogeymen and tools-by-design.
Fundamental Islam will all but disappear the day after Saudi Arabia unites the Middle East under their Kingdom. Don't forget,the Sauds know who the real movers and shakers are in radical Islam,and know who their relatives are and where they all live. That had to know all this in order to move money to them. Once the Saud King is King of a United Arabia,they will be a threat to his order,and it is a historical fact that Kings don't play well with people who threaten their rule.
BTW,Israel will be safe because she will be the banking center for the Middle East,as well as a free market place for the Arabs to shop for forbidden things and get medical care and other services not available in Muslim countries.
Expect ever more intrusive draconian security measures in order to "keep us safe."
The surest thing you ever said.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Most of them [House Commies] are stupid sheeple that have never had an original thought in their lives and don't understand what they are doing.
I agree of course, but it's not as though they are mentally incapable of finding their way to the nearest Community healthcare clinic or liquor store dumpster.
#418. To: sneakypete, whinyOLD mininggold, remora boy Fred Mertz (#414)
whinyOLD; Poor baby, a big bad Army Ranger like you IS being 'stalked'. Maybe Fred will come to your rescue if you can stop bad mouthing him for a few minutes.
SP; LOL! Are you ever right about ANYTHING?
I was never a Ranger,and Fred and I get along pretty good. Always have.
Pete come on you know what's going on here.
You are old enough to know what this is.
WhinyOLD wants to have your baby.
"She" WANTS you.
"She" LUSTS after your actual MALE persona.
(Btw, IMO, that's the same reason that remora boy has a crush on you also), (remember that these libTURDS live in meterosexual /faggot paradise land).
You are just TOO much of an actual man for them to deal with.
They piss themselves when you talk to them.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WERD!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
#419. To: sneakypete, Parrot with speed dial (#416)
Absolutely,and this means they have won and own it all. The only open question is "Who sits at the head of the board table at "Global Inc"?"
Buckwheat, Alfalfa, and Spanky? Goldfinger? George Soros? Ziggy Bzgbiwgrgszbgwnski??
Can you say "Saudi Arabia"?
Fundamental Islam will all but disappear the day after Saudi Arabia unites the Middle East under their Kingdom. Don't forget,the Sauds know who the real movers and shakers are in radical Islam,and know who their relatives are and where they all live. That had to know all this in order to move money to them. Once the Saud King is King of a United Arabia,they will be a threat to his order,and it is a historical fact that Kings don't play well with people who threaten their rule.
Yeah - forgot about the House of Saud. But they're only Muslim-in-Name. You make a good case for a United Arab-Muslim Reich, and end to fundamentalist Islam, but I don't see either ever happening. This is a 1400 year old cult of genetic mental mutation that simply will not die.
The safest bet for the Sauds is in reaching an understanding within the NWO umbrella of ye olde British Empire in exchange for what they've received for decades: PROTECTION and PRESERVATION of the House of Saud as leaders of Islamia.
In a projected Muslim war of attrition against a United Western Europe, it's just not possible. A gazillion cro-magnon Islamists could not possibly win a war against a rabidly vicious, focused, play-for-all-the-marbles Western Europe.
BTW,Israel will be safe because she will be the banking center for the Middle East,as well as a free market place for the Arabs to shop for forbidden things and get medical care and other services not available in Muslim countries.
Good call, I agree. Israel's role as a Middle Eastern Switzerland seems to be a natural.
Rat-boy claims I'm into baiting. Were that the truth, I would have made comments such as 371, 377, 383 and 385, on this one thread.
Typical leftist hypocrisy, from one of the resident traitors.
Feh.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
You claim bait ain't the game, yet you hang favorite baiting quotes in your poster directed signature.
Yeah, right, what was I ever thinking of by commenting on your propensity to bait? It is reflexive to claim the intent is not to bait when one baits, as their is no intent to communicate constructively when one is a master baiter such as you.
If you have any more trouble trying to figure this all out, just ask. I'll even try to help you sans the rhetorical questions. Maybe.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
Yeah - forgot about the House of Saud. But they're only Muslim-in-Name. You make a good case for a United Arab-Muslim Reich, and end to fundamentalist Islam, but I don't see either ever happening. This is a 1400 year old cult of genetic mental mutation that simply will not die.
Saudi Arabia is "the keeper of the faith" because they own Mecca. Nobody is saying they will destroy Islam. They would be utter fools to do so because Islam is what makes them important. What they will do is execute the most radical fundie leaders that refuse to go along with the New Sheriff in Town,and then end up controlling the others and controlling the religion itself. I repeat,fundie Islam will for all purposes be extinct once the Sauds take over because THEY will control it and they ain't about to let it get in the way of them making more money or having more influence and power. They might approve of "true believers" attacking other Muslim leaders who aren't willing to fall in line behind the Sauds,but that will be focused housecleaning,not international terrorism attacks.
The safest bet for the Sauds is in reaching an understanding within the NWO umbrella of ye olde British Empire in exchange for what they've received for decades: PROTECTION and PRESERVATION of the House of Saud as leaders of Islamia.
That's a given. They do love and admire their British masters.
In a projected Muslim war of attrition against a United Western Europe, it's just not possible.
Irrelevant because it's not going to happen if the Sauds are successful at taking over a united Arabia. It would be bad for business and a actual threat to their power and position. Which is one of the big reasons they will end up taking over and becoming the ruling family of Arabia.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
You claim bait ain't the game, yet you hang favorite baiting quotes in your poster directed signature.
The first is a direct quote. The second is an observation- NOT made by me- regarding the method of "spin" that the dummy uses consistently. Oh, BTW, the observation is brutally accurate.
How either of these can be taken as "baiting," is a mystery to be resolved in your head.
Oh, and BTW, the vid you posted right after the above comment, once-again demonstrates you're baiting game.
Thank you, for yet one more example of your disgusting leftist hypocrisy.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
The efective range of a lame excuse is zero point zero meters.
Correct.
Which is also the effective range of your overt hypocrisy.
You're a typical "do as I say, NOT as I do" leftist.
And THAT'S just a fact, not baiting.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
I consider you a megalomaniac and a sociopath. Your Mom must have made you stand in the front yard with an "I wet my bed" sign so your peers could taunt you, a lad who couldn't control his bladder as a ten year old. You never recovered from the humiliation, and so here you are.
Granted that is mere supposition, but if you are like you are for any less of a reason, yor problem is organic in nature. Something only the veterinarian who does primary care for you would truly know about.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
Your Mom must have made you stand in the front yard with an "I wet my bed" sign so your peers could taunt you, a lad who couldn't control his bladder as a ten year old. You never recovered from the humiliation, and so here you are.
More baiting, eh? LOL.
Granted that is mere supposition, but if you are like you are for any less of a reason, yor problem is organic in nature.
Ah, I know this one!
Rule of Disinformation #11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the high road and confess with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made - but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, just isnt so. Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later. Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for coming clean and owning up to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.
LOL.
Something only the veterinarian who does primary care for you would truly know about.
Back to the baiting, once again. LMAO....
Rule of Disinformation # 4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponents argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
Rule of Disinformation # 5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as kooks, right-wing, liberal, left- wing, terrorists, conspiracy buffs, radicals, militia, racists, religious fanatics, sexual deviates, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
Nothing being utterly predictable, eh, Rat-boy? You keep forgetting, I've read the script you operate from...
And BTW, while you keep attacking, I've not lost sight of the main point- which is that you're a HYPOCRITE. Which means you've failed.
No big surprise, eh?
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
"Nothing being utterly predictable, eh, Rat-boy? You keep forgetting, I've read the script you operate from... "
I've never read what's his names shit. It is a good vehicle libby likes to cite, but it means nothing to me.
And indeed that was baiting I reciprocated with. And if you don't like getting what you dish out, then tough shit. It's better then what you'd get if you talked that way to me in real time.
Count your blessing, dumb shit.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
Mad Dog is only using me as a surrogate to show you how much he 'loves' you. He's shy.
Just because he ran away from you doesn't mean he is shy. The only way you can get any action is to sneak up on somebody with a club and a can of spray starch.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
I've never read what's his names shit. It is a good vehicle libby likes to cite, but it means nothing to me.
Of course not. You make it a point to be willfully ignorant. That you refuse to educate yourself, or face anything which contradicts your preconceived (and 99% wrong) viewpoints surprises me not at all. You merely confirm the point.
Thanks for clarifying.
And indeed that was baiting I reciprocated with. And if you don't like getting what you dish out, then tough shit.
I really don't give a FUCK about you. So what makes you think I care enough about you, to bait you? PLEASE.
You're a worthless sack of shit. You're too fucking STOOOPID to even hold down a job as a fucking *helicopter* mechanic. You've failed in everything that you set out to do, so now you're a permanent parasite on society- feeding on it, as a paid pol. It's not baiting, it's exactly what you've already stated. You don't like it? TOO FUCKING BAD, you PUTZ.
It's better then what you'd get if you talked that way to me in real time. Count your blessing, dumb shit.
LOL. Resorting to the internet threats, eh? I could post a pic of the teenaged "internet tough guy" with braces, but I'm too lazy, too tired to bother. You're really not worth the effort.
As to meeting me in real time, what makes you think you can even enter my world? SHIIIIIIIIIIIT. LMAO!!!!!
And that's what pisses you off the most, hence your stupid threats.
Now go behind your mobile-home, and kick your dog. Maybe you'll feel better, maybe you won't. Either way, I really don't give a flying fuck, in a stiff wind, at a rolling doughnut, what you think.
G'night, PUTZ.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Just because he ran away from you doesn't mean he is shy. The only way you can get any action is to sneak up on somebody with a club and a can of spray starch.
But Mad Dog is making veiled overtures by trying to impress YOU.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
"What makes you think anyone cares whether or not you care?"
It is really important to him to try to control the situation when he posts. The control is the motive for posting, not exchanging views on politics and engage in discussion on current events.
I like your question as it is very intuitive. Thanks.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
I believe Steve the mad Doggie Dawg is betrothed to Yukon. You should post to him warning him that his alpha has a wandering eye.
I'm sure he still lurks over here. But if I were Sneaky I would be a little leery of any attempts by MD to 'cozy up'. Or maybe the happy couple needs to recruit a 'best man' for their wedding.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
That was a very amusing response. I learned what I wanted by responding out of character. It completely threw you for a loop.
Translation: you're baiting again, like the little hypocrite bitch I said you were.
Thanks for proving my point.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Of all the people who must suffer your stupidity, the person I feel most sorry for is Lucy.
Having a numb cunt like you for a mother, must be a real drag.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
"S/he's such a bright bulb that s/he still 'thinks' I'm Lucysmom."
S/he is as a child playing the imaginary god exacting vengeance on the helpless for contrived reasons by burning ants at their nest with a magnifying glass.
However, to the dismay of this character, the 'ants' here are proving to be much smarter and more empowered then s/he would like to see.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
S/he is as a child playing the imaginary god exacting vengeance on the helpless for contrived reasons by burning ants at their nest with a magnifying glass.
However, to the dismay of this character, the 'ants' here are proving to be much smarter and empowered then s/he would like to see.
I think it's much simpler, Erica is 'just plain nuts'.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Indeed it is that simple. But part of the fun for me is figuring out the whys and hows that make that so.
Which is why I'm dissecting the frog here.
To change the topic some, I apologize for my bluntness, but Jwpegler has compared male genitalia to tea bags. And since hopefully he's not sneaking a peek at others but is in fact describing his own, someone needs to email him that that is definitely not a normal appearance and that he should see a doctor ASAP. He has me on bozo.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Either that or he should stop taking medications like Premarin if he is doing so. Conjugated estrogens taken by males over an extended period can also do bad things to size and shape.
They can also turn the high beams on and make the headlights quite blinding on guys. Not to mention that wives hate having to share the use of their bras with their hubbies
Interesting speculation. However, suffice it to say, I'm glad I'm not his doctor.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
WhinyOLD wants to have your baby. "She" WANTS you.
"She" LUSTS after your actual MALE persona.
What have I ever done to you to have you scare me like this?
Well ...
It IS Halloween right?
Hell, the thought gives ME nightmares.
Think of all of the poor homeless cats there would be if "she" ever actually picked a man over them?
T' aint a purty sight.
Fur sure.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Mad Dog is only using me as a surrogate to show you how much he 'loves' you. He's shy.
LOL! You STUPID libTURD bitch!
You can say alot of things about me, but me being SHY, is NOT one of them you stupid libTURD bitch.
But I do notice that you fat azzed libTURD bitches are in love with the very idea of queer sex!
Let me ax you a question you stupid libTURD bitch, IF being "gay" is GOOD why do you lying HYPOCRITICAL libTURD bitches TRY to use being queer as an insult against conservatives?
Oh yeah, you are FOUL libTURD HYPOCRITES.
Too bad for you bitch, pete and I both like WOMEN, unlike all of the libTURD "men" that YOU know and love bitch.
LOL!
libTURDISM is a mental DISEASE.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
#457. To: fat azzed libTURD whinyOLD, sneakypete (#437)
Just because he ran away from you doesn't mean he is shy. The only way you can get any action is to sneak up on somebody with a club and a can of spray starch.
SPANG!
"The sting in any rebuke is the TRUTH of it!"
LOL!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Neither you, nor mingbat, loonybitch or dummy have any idea what I'm about.
Don't *flatter* yourselves.
It takes *years* of study, to get the whole picture. You study the daily talking-points, and that's *it.*
You morons are useful idiots, no more or less.
It'd be easy to say I hate your guts, but that's not entirely accurate.
I hate everything that you fucking leftists *stand* for.
You believe in that shit, because you're incredibly arrogant, and dumb-as-a- stump STUPID.
Your idiotic ideas have been tried repeatedly, and bring only misery and death. 100% consistent. THAT is what you stand for, PERIOD.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
You are honestly just too F'ing STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID to actually breathe on your own bitch!
Any honest examination of pete and my exchanges over the years, would really get the impression that he or I, would REALLY go out of our ways to "impress" each other.
/NOT
LOL!
You are projecting how you would act onto us bitch!
LMAO!
You STOOOOOOOOOOOPID F'ing libTURD mouth breather.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
#460. To: cornflake BOY uh weasel GURL uh faggot mikey uh Ferret Mike (#442)
Foul blah blah Foul blah blah
LOL!
As usual you libTURD parasite you have NOTHING but your foul dreams.
Which certainly means NOTHING to any actually sane person.
Ta DA!
You pitiful little libTURD parasite bitch!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
#463. To: cornflake BOY uh weasel GURL uh faggot mikey uh Ferret Mike (#462)
cornflake BOY being cornflake BOY
LOL!
As usual, you whiny little libTURD parasite bitch, you have NOTHING .
Ta DA!
You pitiful little libTURD parasite bitch!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You PITIFUL little libTURD parasite bitch.
LOL!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Neither you, nor mingbat, loonybitch or dummy have any idea what I'm about.
Don't *flatter* yourselves.
It takes *years* of study, to get the whole picture. You study the daily talking-points, and that's *it.*
If your conclusion that mininggold and I are the same person, is an example of your ability to think, grasp reality, and come to useful understandings about the world and the way it works, then you is in deep poopoo.
I hate everything that you fucking leftists *stand* for.
You hate the image that you project on those you label "leftist". In other words, your hate is the fruit of your own fractured "self".
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Since 'ferret' went from being a tolerated "liberal" on Free Republic to being banned in the purge in early 2001, I have had over a hundred returning bannee accounts there. I got pretty well versed in who people like Eric are.
In fact, John Robinson absolutely loathes me with purple passion and anyone doing a ferret' version of the old Don Morgan, 'ASH ALERT!" warning because that early returning disruptor had him captivated would get John Robinson's undivided attention.
Erica is much like a classic 1980 FReeper archetype and is very entertaining to watch.
He in the end is his own worst enemy as he inadvertently works in synergy with Steve Mad Doggie Dog chasing the laser pointer light like some pair of demented kittens. Ironically he hates Steve.
He would loathe how well they work together in forum. They are not like spme demented version of two thirds of the Three Stooges done bu Tim Burton, but they should do a vaudeville act together and at least make some money off their act doing You Tube videos together making money off the merchandising of their joint channel.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
It's better then what you'd get if you talked that way to me in real time. Count your blessing, dumb shit.
LOL. Resorting to the internet threats, eh?
He likes doing that you know, you aren't the first one to receive that threat from Dr Sigmund Fraud......
Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!! "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
Number of self-loathing, pseudo conservatives who have bozoed me, 9. Using your logic, that makes me more correct than you.
I guess that depends on your point of view.....
Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!! "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
Stone,don't you think it's about time to end this thread? Seems like at least the last 100 posts have been one poster attacking another with nobody really commenting on the thread itself.
And "Yeah,I am guilty of this,too."
Folks,why don't we all just move on to something else and start actually discussing opinions of the subject matter?
This thread is done. Give it a proper burial.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
He likes doing that you know, you aren't the first one to receive that threat from Dr Sigmund Fraud......
You fifth graders and the need to constantly remind others of your favorite substance are a hoot. Eric constantly posts about it with you showing pictures of it. And the Tea Party is suffering because of it because the general public is finding out what the typical Tea Party supporter is like. And they have to hide the children in your presence.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Sane Poster: "Folks,why don't we all just move on to something else and start actually discussing opinions of the subject matter?"
Insane House Commie: "Is someone stopping you?"
And there you have it; No mountain of acrid sh*t is too much for typical Commie Moonbat riff-raff. If Mining Moonbat can't wallow in it, she's not happy.
You fifth graders and the need to constantly remind others of your favorite substance are a hoot. Eric constantly posts about it with you showing pictures of it. And the Tea Party is suffering because of it because the general public is finding out what the typical Tea Party supporter is like. And they have to hide the children in your presence.
So are you trying to be Dr Sigmund Frauds apprentice????
Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!! "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
Number of self-loathing, pseudo conservatives who have bozoed me, 9.
As long as you've been here I wouldn't be afraid to say that some of them don't even post here anymore..
Some people don't like to be argued with, some only want to hear the same opinion as their own, some want to get in the last word, some don't want to hear the truth, some don't want to hear what they consider to be lies, some don't want to be insulted or embarressed by their opinions..... So I don't know what to tell you as to why it is that many......
Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!! "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Yup. Some people are only interested in stirring the shit.
Probably because they have shit for brains,and that makes them feel the most comfortable. They get that "warm and squishy feeling" and don't even have to wash afterwards.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
You are the only forum owner I'm aware of that tolerates being told to 'fuck off' 'suck my dick' 'you are an asshole' 'the site runs better when you aren't here' etc etc etc.
Every thread here degenerates to that eventually, at least the ones you happen to post on. As such, yep, the site is sliding downhill faster with each passing week. Combined with your allowing some to use it for personal attack threads, or racial bullshit...it comes down to a simple question: Why bother with LF? You don't give a shit how it looks. You don't give a shit how these kooks talk trash to YOU for God's sake. Which is why even that idiot Goldi gets more respect than you do in her kooky forum. Or JR at Free Republic, or mystery over at GBR.
You aren't promoting 'freedom of speech' by allowing this crap, Stone. You simply promote your site isn't to be taken seriously, because nobody here takes YOU seriously. I drop by every day, but honestly, there hasn't been anything here worth commenting on for the past couple of weeks.
Its your site, Stone. but the reason it hasn't grown is because you haven't 'grown' as a site owner/operator. This isn't about politics, or anything else, as much as it is kooks talking shit behind absurd screen names in ways they'd NEVER do in the real world. Basically, its a fantasyland for losers that have been banned from legitimate sites for the obvious reasons.
As for 'godwincing' posters come, posters go. The rep of the site is what you should be worrying about. Thats the only 'constant' you have any influence over. So far, this site is just as amaturishly run as it was when I signed up.
And thats the problem...unless you enjoy being humiliated, taunted, and insulted by people on the internet. Maybe you do. I honestly don't get it, but its your site. Like the song says, you can't always have what you want, but you get what you need, eh?
"You're a worthless sack of shit. You're too fucking STOOOPID to even hold down a job as a fucking *helicopter* mechanic. You've failed in everything that you set out to do, so now you're a permanent parasite on society- feeding on it, as a paid pol. It's not baiting, it's exactly what you've already stated. You don't like it? TOO FUCKING BAD, you PUTZ."
Title: Nader doesn't make ballot in Oregon (I did it! Ferret's whistleblowing paid off.) Source: news.statesmanjournal.com URL Source: http://news.statesmanjournal.com/article.cfm?i=86030 Published: Sep 1, 2004 Author: staff Post Date: 2004-09-01 17:48:03 by ferret Views: 0 Comments: 50
The news could bolster Sen. John Kerry's bid to keep Oregon, and could hurt President Bush's efforts to take the state
Secretary of State Bill Bradbury announced today that independent candidates Ralph Nader and Sandra Kucera failed to qualify for the Oregon presidential and vice presidential ballot.
The Nader/Kucera campaign turned in 15,088 valid signatures, failing to meet the statutory requirement of 15,306 to qualify for the ballot.
Oregon is expected to be a highly contested state in this year's presidential election. Al Gore won Oregon by the slimmest of margins in 2000. Many pundits believe that Nader's name on this year's ballot could be enough to push Oregon into the grasp of President Bush, and away from the Democratic challenger, Sen. John Kerry.
Consequently, many Republicans had been advocating for Nader to be on the Oregon ballot, and many Democrats had been fighting to keep him off the ballot.
The Nader/Kucera campaign brought signatures to the Secretary of State's Elections Division last week, but many of the signatures do not count because of the Nader campaign's failure to comply with the legal requirements governing petition circulation and signature sheets.
"It's my duty to uphold the law, and it is clear that signatures on sheets that do not comply with the law cannot be counted," Bradbury said.
There were numerous problems with the Nader/Kucera petitions, according to Bradbury's office. Among the many requirements that were not met by the Nader/Kucera campaign, the law requires that signature sheets be numbered by the campaign before being turned in to the county clerks for signature verification. The numbers allow sheets to be tracked and double-checked between the county clerks and the Elections Division. Elections officials found that in many cases signature sheets were not numbered by the campaign at all, or the numbers were altered by the Nader campaign after the sheets left the county clerks but before they were turned in to the Secretary of State.
"Any alteration of public documents opens the door to fraud," said Bradbury, "and threatens the integrity of the elections process."
Additional signatures could not be counted because of the Nader/Kucera campaign's failure to properly sign and date signature sheets, the secretary of state's office said. The sign and date rules, recently upheld by a federal court, also serve to prevent fraud.
Bradbury a Democrat went on to say that he was "disappointed in the Nader campaign," but that "Nader failed to follow the law, and my job is to uphold it."
Title: Union says Nader's circulators forged signatures (Ferret got the ball rolling on this story!!) Source: katu.com URL Source: http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=70187 Published: Aug 16, 2004 Author: AP Post Date: 2004-08-16 19:00:47 by ferret Views: 0 Comments: 74
SALEM, Ore. - Ralph Nader's supporters were accused Monday of turning in fraudulent petition signatures in their last-ditch effort to place Nader's name on Oregon's Nov. 2 presidential ballot.
The Service Employees International Union, which is backing Democrat John Kerry's candidacy, said its analysis of signatures turned in so far by Nader's supporters suggests that two-thirds of them are fraudulent.
Alice Dale, the union's vice president, said it appears there has been "overwhelming and systemic fraud" in the Nader petition effort.
The union also presented the sworn statement of a janitor who said he heard three Nader petitioners, who are paid by the signature, sitting in an isolated stairwell discussing techniques for forging names.
Michael McCarthy, who said he overheard the conversation at the Skidmore Fountain Building where Nader's canvassing operation is headquartered, told reporters that one of the petitioners described "ways to make sure the forged signatures looked more real."
Later, he said, he saw a petitioner with pages ripped out of the telephone directory copying names onto a sheet.
"Furthermore, looking at the petition sheets for any length of time raises the question of whether campaign officials knew or at the very least should have known about the false signatures," Dale said.
Nader's Oregon campaign coordinator, Greg Kafoury, denied that there was any deliberate attempt by the campaign to turn in fraudulent or invalid signatures.
Kafoury said about 65 percent of the signatures turned in to Multnomah County have been found to be valid, which he said was about average for such a petition drive.
Further, he said the allegations against the Nader campaign represent more "dirty tricks" by Democrats and unions backing Kerry who want to keep Nader off Oregon's presidential ballot this fall.
Kafoury said he remained hopeful that Nader supporters will be able to round up at least 15,000 valid petition signatures to qualify him for the ballot.
The signatures are due Aug. 24, although Nader backers will need to turn them in this week to give counties time to verify the signatures.
(Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
The union also presented the sworn statement of a janitor who said he heard three Nader petitioners, who are paid by the signature, sitting in an isolated stairwell discussing techniques for forging names.
Michael McCarthy, who said he overheard the conversation at the Skidmore Fountain Building where Nader's canvassing operation is headquartered, told reporters that one of the petitioners described "ways to make sure the forged signatures looked more real."
Later, he said, he saw a petitioner with pages ripped out of the telephone directory copying names onto a sheet.
1. What were you doing in the stairwell?
2. Were the voices male and/or female.
3. Did you see any of them other than the one ripping the phone book?
4. What did he/she look like?
5. Date and time you witnessed these events.
6. Have you ever had any experience in forging petitions for Mr. Nader in previous campaigns?
7. Wouldn't your time be better spent promoting all the Kerry wonders than trying to prevent folks from voting?
harrowup posted on 2004-08-17 14:24:29 ET Reply Trace
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#37. To: harrowup (#35)
"1. What were you doing in the stairwell?"
Actually this was on stairs in the atrium portion of the building. The maintenance room is on the third floor, and I could see the petitioners - one of whom had queried me for a signature earlier - sitting in an out of the way spot on the second floor eating and talking with petitioning paperwork laying in front of them.
The third floor stairs is shut off from the first and second floor atrium concourse by a gate and wire fence. I quietly went over and sat as close to them above them on the stairs.
They were visible and audible to me - I was actually visible to them had they been suspicious enough of me to notice I was there and to care.
This was in a public place in the building in that you can actually reach where I was via the elevator when it is not in security mode later in the day and at night.
"2. Were the voices male and/or female."
They were male.
"3. Did you see any of them other than the one ripping the phone book?"
As I indicated above, yes. I saw all of them.
"4. What did he/she look like?
5. Date and time you witnessed these events."
I am not going to pick on them any more then I have to by describing them or giving particulars not already in general release to the public. The folks investigating this have access to me for this information.
I am going after fraud, not trying to hurt people, regardless of what they have done. Apologies.
"6. Have you ever had any experience in forging petitions for Mr. Nader in previous campaigns?"
Nader got on the ballot in Oregon last time by holding a one day event where a thousand people or more sign petitions at the event venue.
Over ten thousand showed up to the Rose Garden and he had no problem getting the requisite signatures.
He tried this twice this election cycle, and failed both times to get the critical mass needed of signers to put him on the ballot.
This initiative effort is a last ditch effort.
As for my personal experience with Nader initiative petitions, I have none. I have not election grass roots work of that sort for many election cycles.
"7. Wouldn't your time be better spent promoting all the Kerry wonders than trying to prevent folks from voting?"
As I previously stated, if Nader's contractor doing the gathering submits the requisite number of LEGITIMATE signatures, let him be on the ballot to either be voted for or ignored by those voting at the polls or by mail.
The issue is initiative fraud which has been a huge issue since Bill Sizemore's people were caught transcribing names from one petition of several they had with them to sign to get paid per signature to others the voter had demurred from signing due to personal choice.
The presidential election is the sole voting venue where gathering signatures is paid by the signature.
Even if Nader gets on the ballot, we are generating useful tools to take to Salem to use to get the legislature to modify the law to make ALL signature gathering paid by piecework illegal.
ferret posted on 2004-08-17 14:58:32 ET Reply Trace
#490. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, Murron, Liberator, Mad Dog, jwpegler, hondo68, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, Get Outta Dodge!, CZ82, jwpegler, Rudgear (#489)
Rat-boy: ...The union also presented the sworn statement of a janitor who said he heard three Nader petitioners, who are paid by the signature, sitting in an isolated stairwell....
Harrowup: What were you doing in the stairwell?"
Rat-boy: The third floor stairs is shut off from the first and second floor atrium concourse by a gate and wire fence. I quietly went over and sat as close to them above them on the stairs... They were visible and audible to me - I was actually visible to them had they been suspicious enough of me to notice I was there and to care.
No wonder you're so bitter, and pushing your military (dis) service as evidence of your patriotism, and your pretensions of intellectual competence!!!!!
DAMN, that is TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
No wonder rat-boy is constantly bragging about what he did.... After all, how could he tell the truth...? "Oh, I unclogged the toilet in the womens restroom... someone dropped a monster doogie."
PERFECT!
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
No wonder rat-boy is constantly bragging about what he did.... After all, how could he tell the truth...? "Oh, I unclogged the toilet in the womens restroom... someone dropped a monster doogie."
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
"There is as much honor in being a janitor as there is in being President."
--Tricky Dick Nixon
I wonder who Erica thinks is going to clean up after him, when he has one of his feces throwing tantrums.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
These guys are hilarious...on one hand, they want to act as if they are rooted in populism but on the other, they look down their noses at anyone who does physical labor for a living...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
These guys are hilarious...on one hand, they want to act as if they are rooted in populism but on the other, they look down their noses at anyone who does physical labor for a living...
Erica is perennially clueless as to how to act in polite society. The only ones who have sympathy for him show the same antisocial tendencies.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Are you delusionhal, stupid or just a fucking moron, Junior.
Whoever wrote that post wasn't hiding anything about himself.
But it sure told us a lot about Erica's sympathies.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Elitist fuck... "There is as much honor in being a janitor as there is in being President."
It's an entry-level job. And yes, I did such low-skill jobs (including some janitorial duties), a long time ago...
But I decided I wanted to better myself, do more, earn more, and have a future. It became especially important, after the '93-94 recession. I promised myself I'd go back to school, and go as far as I could, to make sure I had an insurance-policy, so that I'd NEVER have to be back at the janitor level.
I've worked my ASS off, boot-strapping my way through, to where I'm halfway through my doctorate. It takes a lot of work and diligence, continued focus on the goal(s), and sacrifice. Each success has brought me greater income, a better life, and more satisfaction.
Rat-boy chose the alternative- to not work to improve the situation... oh, and yet he'll get on forums like this, and brag about what he was (which wasn't all the much, to begin with), and pretend to be something, when in fact he's chosen to remain a perpetual loser.
We ALL have a choice, on how our lives will be. I made my choices, and I'm glad for them... though they weren't easy. Rat-boy took the easy way, and the results speak for themselves.
I find the irony delicious. It's had me laughing most of the morning.
:)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Not everyone is as driven as you are to remain in academia - while learning nothing in the process - well into their 40's, Junior.
I'm not in academia, you putz. I take classes that I can use in my work, which I can (and do) apply directly. It's worked out well, not only for the companies I work with, but monetarily as well. :) I return to the company at least 10 times my salary, on a regular basis. And that's in *documented* dollars, not some pie-in-the-sky number. In the past year, it was 50x my salary, and my employers are quite happy with the results. My risk- management skills have also avoided somewhere around 2400x my salary, in the past year.
As to "learning nothing in the process," you're not really in a position to judge.
I'll be 46 when I finish my doctorate. When done, I'll continue to work another 20-25 years, in the private sector (the public sector doesn't come even close). Hell, I was looking at an attractive position at the CIA- very specialized, right up my alley... but they were ~40% below what I'm making now, much less the cost of living adjustment to live in the Virginia/DC area. LOL.
Only when I've made my money, paid everything off, and have a major nest-egg for the future, will I think about "retiring" and then I'll teach as long as it keeps me entertained.
What's YOUR plan? Social Security? 401K? Keogh? Roth IRA? Some other nanny-state government handout (stolen from the wallets of those who actually earned their money)?
"Junior" kicks your skinny ass again.
You can shut up now.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
As to "learning nothing in the process," you're not really in a position to judge.
My risk- management skills have also avoided somewhere around 2400x my salary, in the past year.
You've certainly learn to under value yourself...if those cost index numbers you've provided aren't the total bullshit that I am pretty sure that they are.
2400x the median salary of the US is $124MM. You must be making less than minimum wage.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
2400x the median salary of the US is $124MM. You must be making less than minimum wage.
A typical display of flawed logic.
It's clear that you've lost this battle, attempting to dig three times, and completely missing the mark, due to logical fallacies.
Chalk another up to Eric. :)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
No wonder you're so bitter, and pushing your military (dis) service as evidence of your patriotism, and your pretensions of intellectual competence!!!!!
DAMN, that is TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!
I have always been raised to respect and honor all honest work and workers, no matter their job.
I totally believe in INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, so whatever one man wants from life should be up to him, it should be his INDIVIDUAL choice.
But, given the constant stream of inane and foul libTURD "Hate America FIRST!" filth from this obviously insecure little twerp.
From this pitiful little libTURD useful idiot creep Michael McCarthy.
I don't care why he does what he does, (in the chatrooms et. al.), I only care WHAT he does here, (you know, LIE, spin, excuse, and whore for rah rah libTURD FOOLS TOOLS and WHORES UNITE!).
Then this gibbering FOOL busts himself, while he is TRYING to BRAG about it!
LOL!
He tells the world he is/was a janitor, (no bigiee, to me anyhow).
LOL!
He tells the world that he IS a "informant", (calling the heat on folks is a bigee to most people).
LMAO!
He tells the world that he will do whatever he can to hurt politicians who he dislikes, (being a total political whore is a bigee).
LMAO!
He tells the world that he is a braggart AND a FOOL, (who but a braggart and a FOOL would TRY to brag about the behavior he exhibited in the event, OR try to use it as a support on a chat site?)
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He tells the world AGAIN what he is, just another desperate, envious, lying little libTURD TOOL/FOOL/WHORE lickspittle.
Nothing really "funny" about THAT.
AND he'll do ANYTHING, say ANYTHING.
ANYTHING.
To hurt America and Americans.
Which is why I despise him and his gibbering ilk.
Which is why I wish he would just show up and try to demo his internet threats against me and mine.
Sigh ...
But ...
"BULLSHIT WALKS, while MONEY TALKS."
So, OBVIOUSLY, that leaves this pitiful little creep OUT.
(And it ain't really about "money" is it?)
libTURDISM is a mental DISEASE.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
I have also fought fires, planted trees, done pre-commercial thinning, sprayed BGR, and many other outdoor jobs. Most after getting a degree in Poli Sci.
I not only prefer to work outdoors, I am in excellent shape.
The reporter had a job and listed my employment as thus. However, I have never had a stand alone custodian job, that particular one came along with an out door market job.
Anyone who has been a private in the military can do vacuuming, do moping or clean windows. It's OK, but I would never want to work an indoor job like that which was stand alone. ;-)
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
wonder who Erica thinks is going to clean up after him, when he has one of his feces throwing tantrums. .... Isn't that why he married?
He's a fraud, a sham. He tries to pass himself off as some great thinker, but the truth is that he's merely someone that unclogs toilets. In other words, he's a pseudo-intellectual.
You fellow-sheeple are coming to his defense, because you're as inadequate, as vapid as HE is...
And you sheeple don't LIKE it, when you're outed for what you are... (or in this case, what you aren't.)
I really don't care, though. The whole thing gave me a big laugh- and confirmed my observations about who rat-boy really is.
The truth isn't something that really interests you. You make nasty insinuations, hoping that you'll drag me down to your pathetic level of existence. Lefty that you are, you can't raise yourself up, so you're only option- from your limited point of view- is to pull down everyone around you.
And who are you really, rat-boy? A loser helicopter mechanic reject, who doesn't have enough smarts to keep his fat mouth shut. And after the Army shit you out, you've been floundering around ever since...
And as I wrote to rat-boy HERE in response to his typical idiocy:
Rat-boy: I support the proposals to increase the tax rate for wealthier Americans... Capitalist Eric: Clearly, you're NOT a "wealthier American," or you'd be singing a completely different tune...
You see, those of us who have worked our ASSES off to get where we are, have devoted a lot of our time, our effort and our MONEY to get to that point.
In other words, like any business, we have invested resources, with the expectation of a return for the sacrifices that we made.
And to have some limp-dick wannabe like YOU come along, and demand more of OUR money, that you didn't work for, didn't invest anything into, and now DEMAND because you were too stupid, too LAZY, to better yourself, is not the problem of those of us who HAVE worked our asses off...
You scum-bag leftists think that, because you want something, you can just TAKE it.
Think again, you miserable parasite.
NOT gonna' happen.
Yeah, I've been accurately describing rat-boy, for quite some time...
Your instant defense of his meager existance- after all of his bluster- makes me suspect you're not much better than he is.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
"Your instant defense of his meager existance- after all of his bluster- makes me suspect you're not much better than he is.Your instant defense of his meager existance- after all of his bluster- makes me suspect you're not much better than he is.
You have no idea how amused I am. That is what happens when you are so out to get someone you don't care how little information you have to work with.
I never care what you think of me, Eric. I care how I comport myself in life and how well I can live with and like myself.
I know many people who have more then me in capital, possessions, better job, or whatever.
But I have health and do what I like to do as freely as I need to do it to feel free and happy. So many I know go to an early grave or disability because they make the bucks, but they don't take care of the foundational things in life that make it fun and satisfying.
I'm glad you are amused; I am too. At you. ;-)
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
You fellow-sheeple are coming to his defense, because you're as inadequate, as vapid as HE is...
Sometimes one witnesses something so blatantly egregious that one is compelled by simple human decency to respond. That you don't have a clue what is wrong with your remark indicates a psychological deficit.
I would rather be in Mike's company any day than in your exulted presence.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Capitalist Eric: Yeah, I've been accurately describing rat-boy, for quite some time...
Eric, and he is a fairely bright & smart poster, shall never understand you, Mike. But, watch him one of these days describe Thomas Jefferson as one of the GREATEST AMERICAN FOUNDERS that shook the world.
Yet, Thomas Jefferson, as the third President of the US advocated a progressive income tax. And when Eric, recognizes his own errors of historical record, he might see some "good" in you yet.
Eric is a good guy, too. He might be studying you, Mike, but I have been studying him. He has few problems other than the lack of presentation upon the Internet chit-chat channel(s).
It's a display of how you are full of shit and got busted.
You did NOT save a company over $100MM dollars, Junior, and you are now owned.
You should have just kept your mouth shut, Junior. Now you're my tagline.
PS: Noone brags about going to work for the CIA, poseur. And, had you ACTUALLY been in a position where CIA employment was a possibility then you'd understand why I know THAT statement is 100% bullshit as well.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
He's a fraud, a sham. He tries to pass himself off as some great thinker, but the truth is that he's merely someone that unclogs toilets. In other words, he's a pseudo-intellectual.
I've been posting around Mikey for years and, if anything, I believe that he gives out too much information about himself.
That said, you are hardly in any position to take inventory of the intellectual stock of anyone. I've taken shits that express themselves clearer than you. I've hocked loogies that have traveled further than anything that you could even remotely claim as an original idea.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Capitalist Eric: A typical display of flawed logic.
dummy DwarF: It's a display of how you are full of shit and got busted. You did NOT save a company over $100MM dollars, Junior, and you are now owned.
Really? And HOW, pray-tell, do you know this? Who do I work for? What do I DO for that company?
Psst... My company had net earnings of $2 BILLION and change last year... Not revenues, but NET earnings.
So, while it's a small percentage of the total, I did indeed perform my job, and averted disaster on several occasions, that would have taken a chunk out of that bottom line.
You don't believe it, because you think small. But, it's a typical flaw of leftists, so I shrug my shoulders, and move on...
You should have just kept your mouth shut, Junior. Now your my tagline.
If, by using my words to demonstrate that you're short-sighted, and a small thinker, than by all means, knock yourself out.
PS: Noone brags about going to work for the CIA, poseur. And, had you ACTUALLY been in a position where CIA employment was a possibility then you'd understand why I know THAT statement is 100% bullshit as well.
I didn't say I worked for them; I said they had an opening that looked interesting (and would look good on my resume') but didn't pay anything near what I'm already making, so I blew it off...
Oh, and BTW, I've been repeatedly vetted (for security clearances) over the last few years, and always get what I need. I worked on spook-boats way back when, so it's no big deal for me.
Once again, your words demonstrate small thinking.
You forget, dummy, that not everyone lives in the same toilet you do. I worked my ass off to have plenty of options, and I keep my eyes open.
Being older (and quite stupid), I'm sure your options are rather limited. But that's your problem, not mine.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Don't blame that on Mad Dog... those were my words.
I just found it hilarious that ferret-mike turned out to be a pseudo-intellectual janitor.
I'd already pegged him for being a BS artist (with his myriad failed-attempts at honest intellectual debate), and he confirmed it for me... Hell, he PINGED me to the quote!
Had me laughing my ass off.
That being said, I've done such menial work, but that was a long time ago, and I worked hard to make myself more marketable.
Rat-boy complained how he wanted to tax (steal from) the wealthy, because he's either too lazy or too stupid to better himself, so he can earn more... His situation is a direct result of the choices he made (or failed to make)...
I see and talk to janitors, mechanics and electricians damn-near every day... I work with a LOT of skilled-laborer types on a regular basis, and hold no grudge against them... indeed, a long time ago, I was one of them.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
And you did what? Exactly what did YOU DO while you play around the Internet all day?
LOL.
Nice try, bucky. :)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#525. To: cornflake BOY uh weasel GURL uh faggot mikey uh rat-boy uh Ferret Mike (#511)
Blah blah blah More from this pitiful little libTURD useful idiot creep Michael McCarthy.
I don't care.
You being a self admitted libTURD blood enemy of America and of ALL Americans, and you being a self admitted LIAR and creep, that's what I "care" about.
Other than that, you don't mean sh!t all in any way to me boy.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
You're a JANITOR????????? What's wrong with being a janitor? Why would anyone have a problem with that? It's honest work that needs to be done,and somebody needs to do it.
And it is a MUCH more honorable profession than politics or law,and you mingle with a much nicer class of people.
No wonder you're so bitter, and pushing your military (dis) service as evidence of your patriotism, and your pretensions of intellectual competence!!!!!
DAMN, that is TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!"
MD; I have always been raised to respect and honor all honest work and workers, no matter their job.
I totally believe in INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, so whatever one man wants from life should be up to him, it should be his INDIVIDUAL choice.
But, given the constant stream of inane and foul libTURD "Hate America FIRST!" filth from this obviously insecure little twerp.
From this pitiful little libTURD useful idiot creep Michael McCarthy.
I have nothing but respect for EVERYONE who works a honest day at a honest job.
My CONTEMPT is reserved for those who have no honor, those who lie and who STEAL from these NORMAL good and decent folks.
Ain't a DAMNED thing wrong with being a "janitor".
(BUT I sure do see Eric's point.)
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
#528. To: Capitalist Eric, Ferret Mike, war (#524)
Nice try, bucky. :)
I shall find a method (despite your defenses) to show an obvious fallacy of opinion about your perspective(s) .... it is just a matter of time. As for Mike, I have known him over the Internet since 1998 based upon several web chit-chat channels. He is not a hypocrite.
And I have known war since 2003 on similarly based channels. He is not a hypocrite, either.
You see there are serious posters out here upon the Internet ... whether you regard us as significant or not. Then again, why are you posting upon the Internet, within some out of the way Internet web blog... as opposed to moving forward upon your own doctorate degree.
Also the "wog" term you like to use on chan. That sounds racist.
Only to a completely UNINFORMED or IGNORANT person Stone.
"American English
In the United States, "Wog" is simply short for Pollywog, the navy term for sailors who have yet to cross the equator in the line-crossing ceremony, and has no racial associations"
Did you manage to get the context of my use of the word WOG?
I am an AMERICAN US NAVY vet, talking to a foul bitch who you feel free to allow to call me a LIAR and worse about MY F ing USN service, who claims to be a US NAVY lifer.
Gee what the F could I ever be talking about STONE?
Never mind that in THAT discussion I explained at least once that my useage of the F ing word is THE AMERICAN USEAGE on that very thread.
So I don't F ing much care to be called a RACIST because you are too ignorant of the actual meaning and use of the F ing word.
You allow these cunts to say the most foul things about me and my branch and the US armed forces all day long, but God help anybody responding in kind.
Then you virtually accuse ME of being a racist?
WTF?
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
If Ferret was calling you a faggot in the "to box" it would be wrong. It is wrong when you do it too.
btw
I don't agree that it's "wrong", but, it's YOUR boat.
So I'll try.
I can leave faggot off mikey, but leaving other infamous libTURDS alone will be more of a challenge.
Once again, a technique originally used against me by these libTURD filth, is adopted by me, perfected by me, and turned around and used with skill and wit against them by me; is DISALLOWED by the league because I'm BETTER at it than they are.
LOL!
Oh well.
There is nothing that the libTURDS can do or say that I and ALL American CONSERVATIVES can't do BETTER.
WE will defeat and DESTROY them on ANY FIELD at ANY TIME.
Believe it.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Stone is responsible for the look and professional conduct of account holders. You do hurt the forum far more then me, as I consider the source and pay no attention to the insult.
You claim that I slandered your service, when many and myself have learned that you worked in a radar room on a naval vessel and feel you own a piece of several MIGs naval aviators have shot down because of information provided the fliers.
The misinformation I received that you claimed you were a pilot had been corrected long ago, and I have not taken exception to the corrected information.
Your excuse to try to make what you perceive as a wrong with another wrong fails miserably to make a right.
I feel you over state your alleged piece of the scalps of the downed Vietnamese planes and pilots, and as an opinion based on the best facts given, it is legitimate.
As for the 'Wog' term, it is what you say it is, as well I know having been a Junior Naval Cadet in Connecticut as a youth instead of the boy Scouts, asnd I am aware of that jargon.
Stone is showing he wants people to respect his venue, so you are wrong to be angry at his directive concerning the ping box.
Quite simply, he is right. That is not what that box was designed to do, to act as a venue for insult and belittlement.
Hope this helps buddy. Because as it stands, you seem to be in need of all the help you can get. ;-)
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
I see and talk to janitors, mechanics and electricians damn-near every day... I work with a LOT of skilled-laborer types on a regular basis, and hold no grudge against them...
I don't respond to immature slander concerning my sexual proclivities because they are not worth dignifying with a response.
You make yourself look bad continually doing this, and all I would do would be to create a two person dialog whereby the lurkers and other observing interlocutors would have trouble seeing which one of the two engaged in an argument was wrong.
You make your own reputation in here, and I am satisfied most people are intelligent enough to be aware that you have little to say but to engage in insult, and hard to understand rambles of text that seem very resentful in nature.
You make your own bed, sleep in it. Suffice it to say that even were you the gender I have relationships with, I still wouldn't want to share it with you.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
"Eric is a good guy, too. He might be studying you, Mike, but I have been studying him. He has few problems other than the lack of presentation upon the Internet chit-chat channel(s)."
I guess I'm supposed to be bothered by him, but I have seen quite a lot of antics like this and I am no more bothered by it then any posturing speech preformed before a popular entertainment/sport wrestling match.
As for studying me, he should find more constructive use for his time; because I've got far worse heat from many FReepers at once when on that board. That did not phase me, thus he is welcome to his fool's errand.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
"I shall find a method (despite your defenses) to show an obvious fallacy of opinion about your perspective(s) .... it is just a matter of time. As for Mike, I have known him over the Internet since 1998 based upon several web chit-chat channels. He is not a hypocrite.
And I have known war since 2003 on similarly based channels. He is not a hypocrite, either.
You see there are serious posters out here upon the Internet ... whether you regard us as significant or not. Then again, why are you posting upon the Internet, within some out of the way Internet web blog... as opposed to moving forward upon your own doctorate degree."
Thank you buck. I appreciate the kind words. Likewise, I am sure.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah More from this pitiful little libTURD useful idiot creep Michael McCarthy.
I don't care what your newest blather is boy.
You being a self admitted libTURD blood enemy of America and of ALL Americans, and you being a self admitted LIAR and creep, that's what I "care" about.
Other than that, you don't mean sh!t all in any way to me boy.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah More from this pitiful little libTURD useful idiot creep Michael McCarthy.
I don't care what your newest line of blather is boy.
You being a self admitted libTURD blood enemy of America and of ALL Americans, and you being a self admitted LIAR and creep, that's what I "care" about.
Other than that, you don't mean sh!t all in any way to me boy.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Don't blame that on Mad Dog... those were my words.
I wasn't blaming anything on anybody. I was just giving my own opinions.
It was good of you to clear up the question of who was the author,though.
I just found it hilarious that ferret-mike turned out to be a pseudo-intellectual janitor.
Why? I don't consider myself to be lacking in intellectual or reasoning ability,and I have worked as a dishwasher and a laborer as an adult. I needed a job,and those were the only ones I could find at the time. Nothing wrong with the jobs other than they didn't pay enough money to suit me.
I'd already pegged him for being a BS artist...
He's not. There isn't a ounce of bullshit about him. He is one of the most honest and open posters I have ever seen on the internet. I don't agree with many (or maybe even any) of his political positions,but he is upfront with who and what he is.
That being said, I've done such menial work, but that was a long time ago, and I worked hard to make myself more marketable.
Nothing wrong with that,either. I did pretty much the same thing.
Rat-boy complained how he wanted to tax (steal from) the wealthy, because he's either too lazy or too stupid to better himself, so he can earn more...
You have misjudged him. He isn't lazy,he just isn't materialistic. He's living his life the way he chooses to live his life,and he makes no apologies for it. Frankly,I find that viewpoint refreshing after seeing and hearing all the multi-millionaire leftists whine and complain about how "the rich" should pay more while paying accountants thousands of dollars to minimize their tax obligations. He doesn't earn much because he doesn't need much.
As for him being stupid,there is no such thing as a stupid Special Forces veteran that is white. There are a few AA SF veterans running around that ain't the brightest bulbs in the universe,but they were all nothing but place holders that never went anywhere or did anything interesting. They all ended up in staff support jobs where they wouldn't do much harm.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
As for the 'Wog' term, it is what you say it is, as well I know having been a Junior Naval Cadet in Connecticut as a youth instead of the boy Scouts, asnd I am aware of that jargon.
It was also a term the British used to use for Arabs.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Thanks for the information, I hadn't heard that used in an epithet that way before.
Oh and; just simply thank you.
I make mistakes, but I really do try to enhance my wisdom more then I compound my ignorance. We all do a measure of both.
You are a poster I respect and have learned from, and that I could do as good a job as you in that regard. Praise is great, but learning and knowing others are doing the same and sharing good lively exchange is the biggest reward when it happens in political forums, when we all share credit for creating good virtual community.
The cherry of praise is a nice garnish, but the meat of the convection of cake that is good discourse on a good forum is to die for.
Cheers.
And here's to cake. I like it.
"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey
Psst... My company had net earnings of $2 BILLION and change last year... Not revenues, but NET earnings.
So what? The issue here is if your part time risk management "skills" saved them over $100MM, Junior. They didn't.
I didn't say I worked for them; I said they had an opening that looked interesting
Again I call BULLSHIT.
A) The CIA doesn't adverstise "openings". Their public job solicitations rarely, if ever, even mention "CIA".
B) Once you are "inside" on any "oppportunity" that the CIA has, which could be from being approached by the agency or from a public solicitation, as soon as you sit down you're handed a non-disclosure form that stops you from stating nonsense like the above. So you are either BULLSHITTING or you breached that agreement. My money says that you are bullshitting.
Your problem, Junior, is the same as Boofer's and all of the other All-American Wannabe's posting on the internet...you believe that you're "smarter" than everyone else. Or, to be more accurate, you pretend that you are.
You aren't.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Capitalist Eric: I see and talk to janitors, mechanics and electricians damn-near every day... I work with a LOT of skilled-laborer types on a regular basis, and hold no grudge against them...
Alzheimer Fred: Some of my best friends are black. You are such a joke and you don't even see it.
Your closet-racism comes through again, Fred.
As it is, I've spent about half of my adult life wearing work uniforms or coveralls, doing hard physical work.
The most unpleasant experience was running a crew of ten journeyman maintenance techs in a factory. I was the maintenance manager- being required to attend management and planning meetings. But since we were short-staffed, I was also on the line in between meetings. I remember laying in a vat of waste-oil about 2-3 inches deep, using a stick-welder and thin 6011 rod, trying to patch the rotted-out bottom of the waste-oil tank. When I got home, my wife made me strip in the front yard, before she let me into the house... It was days before I finally got the oil out of my ears...
It was normal to pick up a coffee cup in the morning, and have my hands break open and start bleeding, because my skin was so dried out from the detergents I'd have to use to get the ingrained grease out of my pores.
It was at that particular company, I finally decided I'd had enough, and wanted to be back in my old industry, even though I'd have to tolerate the political games.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
So what? The issue here is if your part time risk management "skills" saved them over $100MM, Junior. They didn't.
Think what you like. I'm not going to give you the information to verify the facts, because you're just not worth sacrificing my privacy. Were I to do so, you'd refuse to accept it, because you aren't interested in the truth. So there's no point taking this further, is there?
A) The CIA doesn't adverstise "openings". Their public job solicitations rarely, if ever, even mention "CIA".
Nothing like contradicting yourself, eh, dummy??? LOL. You just said they don't advertise openings. Then you say they do, but 'rarely, if ever, mention "CIA".' So, do they or don't they advertise? And IF they do, do they ever mention CIA?
I'll answer the questions. Yes, they do apparently advertise openings on the internet, because I found one that looked pretty good (except way too low on salary), and it did mention it was for the CIA. I'm sure if you looked, you'd find some too. But, as usual, YOU aren't interested in the truth, so it's a moot point. Think (or refuse to think) as you will, I really don't care. I am getting a laugh, however, out of your knee-jerk responses, based on nothing but the bullshit between your ears.
B) Once you are "inside" on any "oppportunity" that the CIA has, which could be from being approached by the agency or from a public solicitation, as soon as you sit down you're handed a non-disclosure form that stops you from stating nonsense like the above. So you are either BULLSHITTING or you breached that agreement. My money says that you are bullshitting.
Since I didn't even put my name into the mix, your entire point is... Well, what IS your point? As to what your "money says," it would seem you don't have much, DO you?
Your problem, Junior, is the same as Boofer's and all of the other All-American Wannabe's posting on the internet...you believe that you're "smarter" than everyone else. Or, to be more accurate, you pretend that you are. You aren't.
LMAO. You issue a challenge in one sentence, and then contradict yourself in the second sentence, demonstrating the inherent lie in the first...
Hmmm.... You've demonstrated a lack of qualifications to judge who else is (or is not) smart. :)
But, as usual, thanks for the laughs. :)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
As it is, I've spent about half of my adult life wearing work uniforms or coveralls, doing hard physical work.
The most unpleasant experience was running a crew of ten journeyman maintenance techs in a factory. I was the maintenance manager- being required to attend management and planning meetings. But since we were short-staffed, I was also on the line in between meetings. I remember laying in a vat of waste-oil about 2-3 inches deep, using a stick-welder and thin 6011 rod, trying to patch the rotted-out bottom of the waste-oil tank. When I got home, my wife made me strip in the front yard, before she let me into the house... It was days before I finally got the oil out of my ears...
It was normal to pick up a coffee cup in the morning, and have my hands break open and start bleeding, because my skin was so dried out from the detergents I'd have to use to get the ingrained grease out of my pores.
It was at that particular company, I finally decided I'd had enough, and wanted to be back in my old industry, even though I'd have to tolerate the political games.
Yeah right. Dream on autistic one.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Oh stalker of the children of posters on the internet, how could I be the liar would YOU wouldn't supply the proof? Do you actually think you can apply those same shoddy standards to your doctoral thesis and expect to ever get your degree?
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
I'm not going to give you the information to verify the facts...
Don't need to. You DID NOT save ANY company >$100MM. I know it's bullshit. You know it's bullshit. Anyone not asleep from your ramblings knows it.
Move on. It's not like I had even a modicum of respect for you prior anyway.
Nothing like contradicting yourself, eh, dummy??? LOL. You just said they don't advertise openings. Then you say they do, but 'rarely, if ever, mention "CIA".' So, do they or don't they advertise? And IF they do, do they ever mention CIA?
That's not a contradiction. They were all over the papers in just about every major city after the 70's purges. "Public corporation seeking to hire all positions...call for appointment." Since then, I believe that they have twice run similar ads.
I'll answer the questions. Yes, they do apparently advertise openings on the internet, because I found one that looked pretty good (except way too low on salary), and it did mention it was for the CIA. I'm sure if you looked, you'd find some too.
The "Career Page" on their website? ROFLMAO. And I suppose that you respond to those Nigerian Letters as well?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA...
LMAO. You issue a challenge in one sentence, and then contradict yourself in the second sentence, demonstrating the inherent lie in the first...
Wha...huh?
This, Junior, is called Gleaning The Truth From Observation:
Your problem, Junior, is the same as Boofer's and all of the other All-American Wannabe's posting on the internet...you believe that you're "smarter" than everyone else. Or, to be more accurate, you pretend that you are. You aren't.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
I just went to the careers page at CIA.GOV, btw, and found this on the page of an alleged job posting:
Important Notice: Friends, family, individuals, or organizations may be interested to learn that you are an applicant for or an employee of the CIA. Their interest, however, may not be benign or in your best interest. You cannot control whom they would tell. We therefore ask you to exercise discretion and good judgment in disclosing your interest in a position with the Agency. You will receive further guidance on this topic as you proceed through your CIA employment processing.
Those job postings are BS...they're, for lack of a better phrase, data mining.
Had you actually had face to face contact with CIA the reason for which was employment then they'd have immediately bound you to a written non disclosure agreement under penalty of law.
/twit
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Nothing like contradicting yourself, eh, dummy??? LOL. You just said they don't advertise openings. Then you say they do, but 'rarely, if ever, mention "CIA".' So, do they or don't they advertise? And IF they do, do they ever mention CIA?
There are a couple of commercials on their website, directed at a 'Middle Eastern' audience. Eric probably saw them while pursuing studies at Hebrew University.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Don't need to. You DID NOT save ANY company >$100MM. I know it's bullshit. You know it's bullshit.
Getting desperate, eh?
You think after all the wild swings you've thrown, you finally connected on something good...
And then, D'oh!
It turns out to be another miss.
That's ok, dummy... keep swinging. Eventually you'll hit, right? That's your logic (or what passes for it in your empty skull)?
That's not a contradiction. They were all over the papers in just about every major city after the 70's purges. "Public corporation seeking to hire all positions...call for appointment." Since then, I believe that they have twice run similar ads.
Really?????????? (((eyeball roll)))
LOL.
The "Career Page" on their website? ROFLMAO.
Thanks for confirming my point- that YOU aren't interested in the truth.
So........ here we go.........
Wait for it......
WAIT for it........
Here the proof that you're a lying colostomy bag.
As to jobs, THIS website alone has 276 JOBS FOR THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY.
This, Junior, is called Gleaning The Truth From Observation: Your problem, Junior, is the same as Boofer's and all of the other All-American Wannabe's posting on the internet...you believe that you're "smarter" than everyone else. Or, to be more accurate, you pretend that you are. You aren't.
Gleaning The Truth From Observation reveals your powers of observation to be nonexistent. LMAO.
Now that I've PROVEN my point- that all you do is talk shit- it's time to move on.
LMAO.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Oh stalker of the children of posters on the internet, how could I be the liar would YOU wouldn't supply the proof? Do you actually think you can apply those same shoddy standards to your doctoral thesis and expect to ever get your degree?
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
There are a couple of commercials on their website, directed at a 'Middle Eastern' audience. Eric probably saw them while pursuing studies at Hebrew University.
Junior makes it too easy.
Four kids and 26 years on Wall Street playing Liar's Poker...and he *thinks* I don't know BULLSHIT?!?
/[he's a]twit
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Usually a walk through the ocean of the soul of such egotistical types will scarcely get your feet wet.
The most fun I had with Erica was when I did that spoof of Rotara to parody bombastic aspect of him and I told Eric to keep fighting the good fight.
He bought it hook line and sinker. Rotara has mellowed and didn't take the bait until recently when the posts were shown to him. And he accepted I only parodied attitude, not ideology.
But I remember how proud Eric was to get my praise for his ability to dog the 'evil liberals.'
Usually a walk through the ocean of the soul of such egotistical types will scarcely get your feet wet. The most fun I had with Erica was when I did that spoof of Rotara to parody bombastic aspect of him and I told Eric to keep fighting the good fight. He bought it hook line and sinker. Rotara has mellowed and didn't take the bait until recently when the posts were shown to him. And he accepted I only parodied attitude, not ideology. But I remember how proud Eric was to get my praise for his ability to dog the 'evil liberals.'
Face it, he's just no genius.
Says the janitor. If I don't understand your low-brow attempts at humor and wit, what of it? It says how shallow YOU really are, and once again demonstrates that YOU are the one who baits and plays games... And it confirms that you're a BS artist. You look even worse than I would have dared guess:
LMAO!!! What a putz.
As to genius, you're just not qualified to judge, one way or the other.
But if that's what you need to tell yourself, to feel competent, than by all means, go ahead. It'll help your small mind stay occupied, while you unplug toilets.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Please provide the exact link to where I claimed to be an engineer, or even claimed to have an engineering degree.
Until then, kindly STFU.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Capitalist Eric: Please provide the exact link to where I claimed to be an engineer, or even claimed to have an engineering degree. Until then, kindly STFU.
Loonybitch: Eh, now you've found me out - I don't hang on your every word or bother to remember little factoids about your life.
That's good, because the little "factoid" of my life that you threw out there is another lie.
But hey, don't let REALITY slap you upside your empty little skull...
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
But hey, don't let REALITY slap you upside your empty little skull...
Junior Announcing To The World On The Internet That HE Wants To Be James Bond: Hell, I was looking at an attractive position at the CIA- very specialized, right up my alley...
The CIA Slapping Reality Upside His Skull: Important Notice: Friends, family, individuals, or organizations may be interested to learn that you are an applicant for or an employee of the CIA. Their interest, however, may not be benign or in your best interest. You cannot control whom they would tell. We therefore ask you to exercise discretion and good judgment in disclosing your interest in a position with the Agency. You will receive further guidance on this topic as you proceed through your CIA employment processing.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#579. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone, nolu chan (#542)
AKAS; Also the "wog" term you like to use on chan. That sounds racist.
SP; It is. It's a term the British used on Arabs.
nolu chan sounds Asian to me,so I don't know how that relates to wogs/Arabs.
Pete I mean no heat towards you here, BUT ...
Here's the truth of the matter.
A phucking GAIN
#529. To: A K A Stone (#526)
AKAS; Also the "wog" term you like to use on chan. That sounds racist.
MD; Only to a completely UNINFORMED or IGNORANT person Stone.
"American English
In the United States, "Wog" is simply short for Pollywog, the navy term for sailors who have yet to cross the equator in the line-crossing ceremony, and has no racial associations"
Did you manage to get the context of my use of the word WOG?
I am an AMERICAN, who is a US NAVY vet, talking to some foul bitch, (the execrable FRAUD WOG bitch nolu chan, et. al.), who you, (AKAS), feel free to allow to call me a LIAR and worse about MY F' ing USN service, who claims to be a US NAVY lifer.
Gee what was the context of my NORMAL USN USE of the word?
Who are the people talking, (two people who claim to be US NAVY vets, two ex-USA SAILORS).
What were we talking about stone? I was calling the fraud bitch, a dickless wannabe lubber WOG, which is what he/she/it IS if he/she/it never passed the initiation through Neptune's court. Which is just another word for a POLLYWOG. US NAVY sailors call such pitiful souls WOGS.
What the F could I ever have been talking about STONE?
I fully admit, that calling any blue water squid a WOG is perhaps the greatest insult a mariner can make TO ANOTHER MARINER, or FRAUD thereof.
But there isn't SH!T ALL "RACIAL" about it.
Never mind that in THAT very discussion I explained at least once, for the excessively DIM, that my useage of the F ing word is THE AMERICAN USEAGE on that very thread.
So I don't F ing much care to be called a RACIST because you are too ignorant of the actual meaning and AMERICAN NAVY use of the F' ing word.
You allow these cunts to say the most foul things about me, and my branch, and the US armed forces, all day long, but God help anybody responding in kind to them eh?
Then you virtually accuse ME of being a racist?
WTF?
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Mad Dog posted on 2011-11-02 21:35:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Junior Announcing To The World On The Internet That HE Wants To Be James Bond: Hell, I was looking at an attractive position at the CIA- very specialized, right up my alley...
A typical lie.
As you've repeatedly demonstrated, YOU are not interested in reality, on the delusions that rattle in that empty space between your ears.
You're just another leftist loser, who can't succeed on your own merits, so you attempt to tear anyone who has more abilities and confidence in themselves, down to your pathetic level of life.
This thread has been very good- you've demonstrated that you lie your ass off, rat-boy has confirmed that he is a complete loser (as I'd already surmised), and the two loons are trying get into the act, like two flies on the shit you idiots push.
It has been a very good demonstration how low, and how petty, you leftist cocksuckers really are.
What I find most amusing, is that you idiots are so negative, so unbelieving that someone can actually be successful through hard work, and then have 100% confidence in their own abilities... It's such an ALIEN concept for you- success through hard work- that you ridicule it, laugh at it... like a bunch of morons all laughing at the same moronic joke.
YOU accuse me of lying, basing your judgement on whatever loser-life you lead... you make bogus assumptions, wild accusations, and then when I PROVE how utterly flawed your statements are, you pretend that you were right all along... How many times on this thread alone, have I proved you to be liar...? I don't really care to count 'em up- you're not worth the effort.
It's enough to say that you've given me a really good look into your pathetic, empty little lives...
It's no wonder why YOU spend all your time on the internet; you've got nothing else.
Sucks to be you.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Everything is small with him except his hubris, so he would fill the bill.
Yeah, I get that "hubris" label a lot... I'm called arrogant, a dick, an asshole, etc., etc., etc.
A LOT of losers and politicians call me that.
I even had an engineering manager stomp into my office, and demand a copy of my resume. His exact words were, "I want to verify your C.V." LOL. I fulfilled his request, and he never challenged me again. And now, two years later, his department has to explain why their 50+ engineers were completely wrong, my calculations were right, and now someone's gonna' eat a rework bill for ~$15M. (The manager was fired, LOL.)
You're a fucking janitor, so what the fuck would YOU know about hubris versus confidence? Here, let me educate you: hubris is when you can't back up what you say, confidence is when you can, and do.
My attitude, my confidence comes from knowing that I always succeed at what I decide to do. It's a wonderful feeling, probably something you'll never know.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Oh goody, another unsubstantiated, EMPTY comment from the loonybitch.
Ain't THAT a surprise.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
What I find most amusing, is that you idiots are so negative, so unbelieving that someone can actually be successful through hard work, and then have 100% confidence in their own abilities... It's such an ALIEN concept for you- success through hard work- that you ridicule it, laugh at it... like a bunch of morons all laughing at the same moronic joke.
Two thoughts on the above
1. you lack judgment and most likely have more confidence in yourself than is warranted, and
2. all the success you claim to have achieved in your life hasn't brought you any joy. You appear to be one miserable excuse for a human being.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Eh, now you've found me out - I don't hang on your every word or bother to remember little factoids about your life.
He'll be soon working on his engineering doctorate but first he needs to get that 'Introduction to Engineering' out of the way.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
In the United States, "Wog" is simply short for Pollywog, the navy term for sailors who have yet to cross the equator in the line-crossing ceremony, and has no racial associations"
Ok,I have never heard the word used that way. I have only heard of the term in the historical context used by the British.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Did you or did you not state right here on the internet, on a page that requires no subscription to read, that you were considering going to work for the CIA in a "highly specialized...right up [your] alley" capacity?
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Did you or did you not state right here on the internet, on a page that requires no subscription to read, that you were considering going to work for the CIA in a "highly specialized...right up [your] alley" capacity?
That part, yes.
The part YOU stated, "HE Wants To Be James Bond" is a lie.
I can't believe you're so ignorant as to think that intelligence is only about HUMINT, and I'm not going to belabor the point. Yes, that's right, I'm going to run on the assumption that you're on top of things.
Point is, there are a LOT of different areas of government service (with whichever spook agency you choose) that have absolutely nothing to do with being- or running- agents in the field.
Hell, I'll bet even rat-boy could find work there... as a janitor.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Mad Dog is right... it's a typical expression. Others include bubble-heads (submariners), glow-worms (nuke plant operators), targets (surface ships), etc., etc.
Put a bunch guys on a boat for months on end, they start to get bored... and then the practical jokes begin. Others spend their time coming up with less attractive names to describe normal stuff, and new people (FNG, NUB, etc.).
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Put a bunch guys on a boat for months on end, they start to get bored... and then the practical jokes begin.
You didn't have a job and weren't required to stand watch?
And you fell for every one.
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
In the United States, "Wog" is simply short for Pollywog, the navy term for sailors who have yet to cross the equator in the line-crossing ceremony, and has no racial associations"
Ok,I have never heard the word used that way. I have only heard of the term in the historical context used by the British.
No problem.
It is basic US NAVY jargon, and always has been for over 200 years.
I wouldn't expect anybody BUT a USN active or vet squid to know of it's proper use.
Turns out that "riding" a "boat" isn't quite as simple as it might appear to be to lubbers ignorant of the realities of being a mariner.
NON mariners ARE "lubbers" by traditional definition for hundreds of years .
It is NOT an insult to NON mariners, as long as they don't try to claim that they are mariners.
I mean no insult to you, I just want to point out the correct/traditional useage of mariner jargon.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
You didn't have a job and weren't required to stand watch?
I worked on boats. To be more precise, I was a nuclear electrician on a stretched 637-class (Sturgeon) submarine.
We had 18-hour days. Six hours on watch, six hours doing PMs or quals, and 6 hours of sleep. This rotation would go for months at a time. The longest I ever went without seeing sunlight was nine months. We'd pull up to a tender to do a 90-day loadout on food, and return to patrol. We rarely visited foreign ports- nuke-powered vessels were not welcome in most other countries (though I did enjoy Holy Loch, Scotland).
The cool thing, was that we saved a lot of money, while we were on deployment- the checks kept coming, but there wasn't any place to spend money, and gambling was simply not done.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--