Title: Who gives shit if Godwinson post here again? Source:
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#48. To: calcon, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, Get Outta Dodge!, CZ82, jwpegler, Rudgear, Capitalist Eric, A K A Stone, Thunderbird, Mad Dog, Murron, e_type_jag, Badeye, Parrot with speed dial, nolu chan, Sebastian, We The People, hondo68 (#45)
YES, godwinson is a left wing as you can get, but what's a forum without opposing views
I think there are plenty of conservatives and libertarians who disagree with each other and opposed respective views....
Should the debate be about promoting the right direction of the country, OR, humoring the Commie blitzkrieg and agenda of Leftist propaganda? Of course it can also be considered an intellectual blood sport.
The problem with Commies and Leftists at a forum is their lack of logic, un-willingness to exchange cogent, honest thought and debate, and un-willingness to deviate from their hardened dogma.
It's not so much a "debate" for these folks as it is about spamming a forum with Commie/Leftist propaganda.
QUESTION: When was the last meaningful "debate" between LF's House Commies vs. Conservatives/Libertarians? Leftist do NOT want to debate because the truth is never on their side. That's why all they do is obfuscate, create red herrings, and lie.
"The problem with Commies and Leftists at a forum is their lack of logic, un-willingness to exchange cogent, honest thought and debate, and un-willingness to deviate from their hardened dogma."
This is your hardened dogma which as little touch with reality you are unwilling to debate.
It suits your purposes to treat people whom you label as unwilling and incapable of change. You speak of people who are left of you politically as if they were automatons cut from the same cookie cutter.
When in fact, people are people. Everyone agrees with everyone else on some things and disagrees on others. Yyou repete your mantra I speak of over and over, and this is meant to shut down debate, to label and damn whomever you don't like politically. And thus in this regard you are often an eye roller of a bore.
"The problem with Commies and Leftists at a forum is their lack of logic, un-willingness to exchange cogent, honest thought and debate, and un-willingness to deviate from their hardened dogma."
This is your hardened dogma which as little touch with reality you are unwilling to debate.
Mike, it is indeed 98% true.
I'll give you that 2% because folks like you will at least listen even if you already know you disagree with whatever premise.
It suits your purposes to treat people whom you label as unwilling and incapable of change. You speak of people who are left of you politically as if they were automatons cut from the same cookie cutter.
Unfortunately, 90% of the political Left *are* automatronic. They are partisan Dems. They are hardened socialists. What's to debate? You say it's not true, I say it is. It's not even hyperbole on my part.
My "purpose" is gleaning and determining the truth of the matter and then considering solutions that promote construction instead of de-construction and destruction of this nation. Michael, you and your ilk want the US turned upside down on its head, aka "fundamentally changed" into a socialist state - which is unconstitutional.
In fact, people are people.
What does that even mean? If it means "we're all the same," then I vociferously disagree with that characterization. This forum, this debate, our respective political view proves it to be a fallacy; Sharia Law proves it to be a fallacy; The political class of elites proves that a fallacy; Any Country Club proves that to be a fallacy.
Everyone agrees with everyone else on some things and disagrees on others.
Is this supposed to be some kind of revelation??
Yyou repete your mantra I speak of over and over, and this is meant to shut down debate, to label and damn whomever you don't like politically.
And that "mantra" is what exactly? That the system of Communism are repressive, oppressive, and fascist?
And lol, who the hell are you kidding about "labeling"? You and you ilk engage in it like clockwork to shut down to marginalize and demonize debate (EX: "racist," "homophobe," "bigot," "talibornagain," "Holy Roller," "intolerant," "Teabagger," etc.)
Are conservatives and liberatarian all supposed to overlook the Left's and your rhetoric that's ALL based on Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals'?
SERIOUS QUESTION:
Are you conscious that you are engaging in Alinsky-type debate?
Are you conscious that you are engaging in Alinsky-type debate?
You're KIDDING, right?
He admitted that he is political operative, as a JOB.
Mike supposedly prides himself in possessing a large measure of honesty and integrity. I was challenging the degree.
I didn't know if he posted off the top of his head OR gave his response much thought after parroting the usual one-sided self-serving Leftist tripe about "labels" and "shutting down debate."
Sure, he's always been a political activist - that's no secret, nothing wrong with it...But I didn't know that he was a *paid* political operative.
#209. To: mininggold, A K A Stone, Murron, Mad Dog, jwpegler, hondo68, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, Get Outta Dodge!, CZ82, jwpegler, Rudgear (#193)(Edited)
bimbitch: Erica came crawling here after s/he was banned from LP. Capitalist Eric: LOL. Want me to provide links (with time-stamps) to prove that you're lying again? bimbitch: Go for it, but first you need to prove your charge against Mike.
If Mike challenges me to prove the point, I'll be HAPPY to embarrass him.
You lie your ass off, then you try to set the rules. You think you're pretty safe, eh?
Fine. Let's START with YOU.
The post on LP where I told goldi she's a coward, she sucks, and she's a propagandist, is HERE. Oh, BTW, once I was done, my exact quote to goldi was "Now that I've said my peace, I hereby give you permission to delete my account. And f**k you very much."
The time where I started posting (as I opus'ed out of LF) is HERE.
I've proven the point, and demonstrated that you are, indeed, a lying b! tch.
I challenged you. So why don't you just prove your point by posting under your ID on LP?
The exact conversation was the following:
bimbitch: Erica came crawling here after s/he was banned from LP. Capitalist Eric: LOL. Want me to provide links (with time-stamps) to prove that you're lying again? bimbitch: Go for it, but first you need to prove your charge against Mike.
You made a claim that I ran away from LP after I was banned.
You challenged me to prove that you're a liar, and I did.
"And where is your evidence supporting what you posted about Mike? "
The prick needs no evidence, as that one is all agenda. I do believe their is a great love to abuse and to try to bully too.
He's someone I would assume an aggressive defensive posture were he to approach and identify himself in real time. He doesn't know how to agree to disagree nor does he like people who do.
"You want me to "compromise" with your treason. Compromise leads to surrender"
Yeah, that's why the first thing I do every time I go to Boston is to go to the harbor to say hello to my favorite girlfriend, the USS Constitution that is docked there.
That's why I spent so much of my time in the military ready to go fight for and possibly be wounded or die for this country.
There are many ways I show my love for the United States, and not one example of my being treasonous. To even posture this notion makes you something beneath contempt.
the first thing I do every time I go to Boston is to go to the harbor to say hello to my favorite girlfriend, the USS Constitution that is docked there.
Which means precisely dick.
That's why I spent so much of my time in the military ready to go fight for and possibly be wounded or die for this country.
Big whoop. I'm a vet, too. You don't see me wear that on my sleeve, to prove my patriotism.
On the contrary, your words and your espoused agenda prove you to be a traitor.
Why not wear THAT on your sleeve? Oh, that's right... you're a disengenuous little sh!t, who doesn't want to be TOO honest about what you really are, and what your agenda really IS.
There are many ways I show my love for the United States, and not one example of my being treasonous. To even posture this notion makes you something beneath contempt.
Let's go through the list, and see if you fit the various symptoms of the sick and destructive liberal (socialist). Follow along, here:
1. intellectually and spiritually bankrupt? YEP. Definitely. 2. infected with a ...hatred of tradition, morals and values? YEP. 3. deceptive, perfectly, and diabolically willing and able to take all of us down with them? YEP. Check. 4. [Pushing for] animal bill of rights, pet guardianship and the picketing of KFC? YEP. 5. support the millions of illegal immigrants filling our schools, hospitals and prisons and the accompanying multi-billion dollar tax burden? Most definitely. 6. The call for celebration of other cultures is revealed to be a mere mask fueling the fires of racial and class divisions. SURE! (That was an easy one.) 7. [Pushing for the] dismantling of Western civilization? Of COURSE ! 8. pervasiveness and unending in its preaching [of the agenda of dismantling Western Civilization]? Sure! (Another easy one.) 9. Principle is abandoned for practicality? Absolutely. You have no principles, being the traitor you ARE. 10. Cooperation becomes compromise. Public relations become political correctness. And the path of least resistance leads to surrender? YEAH, that's EXACTLY what you want.
Fascinating; as this common epithet for a fuckwit like you discribes you well.
I had not expected you to understand my lifelong love of my personal metaphor for the country I am from and love. Old Ironsides never lost a battle. She inspired the citizens of this country to ave her when she reached old age and faced a normal death for a wooden ship.
Children sent their pennies to keep her with us, and she is still strong, beautiful; a piece of living poetry and heart song chiseled from live oak and iron.
I go to her and always remember why I love this place, the United States.
Nothing I am can say is going to change your delusions of grandeur regarding your own high impression of yourself, or change the mission you have to make this other then a game where you seek to drive those you hate from here.
This comprehension of your motives, what you are, and how this place is likely an outlet to relieve pressure from elements of your live causing you stress or a lack of control makes me beyond you ability to affect me.
I am enjoying watching the show, and want you to keep this up. Keep on showing us what you are and what stuff you are made of Erica.
Fascinating; as this common epithet for a fuckwit like you discribes you well.
Oh, goody.
An upscale version of "I know you are, but what am I?"
This is what passes for leftist intellect, eh?
Feh.
So no proof of your assertion about Mike... Day 2.
You need to go back to reading your fairy tales about Good Knights versus Bad Knights, but first get those nasty commies that are hiding under your bed... out, before the guards do the cell checks for contraband.
YOU wanted me to prove that you're a liar, and I DID.
8^)
Then where's you email correspondence with Goldi? Plus the evidence for your claims against Mike? There were two parts to the equation and you failed to fulfill either.
I challenged you FIRST to prove YOUR premise about Mike.
And I ignored it. You've no standing to challenge me over any conversation with someone else.
You wanna' talk smack about me, and then challenge me to PROVE you're a liar...? Oh, yeah, of COURSE I'm slap you down. You were stupid enough, arrogant enough to think I couldn't prove the point.
#335. To: Capitalist Eric, Ferret Mike (#334)(Edited)
Rat-boy knows that... So give credit where it's due: he wasn't so stupid as to lie, and then challenge me to prove he lied.
YOU were *were*.
And I must confess, today was made FAR more enjoyable, by rubbing your nose in your own shit.
If you choose to pretend it's roses...? Whatever.
We *both* know better.
You're a stupid, LYING bitch, and I *proved* it.
I challenged you to put your money where your mouth is twice and you failed both times. I really don't care if Mike wanted to challenge you or not, I did and you as usual came up short again, Vinnie.
Even Libby and Calcon were busting your propaganda pushing ass over there, no wonder you crawled over here like a snake. And I even agree with you about Palin, I just don't agree with your tactics.
