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Title: Occupy Eugene Ongoing - Consensus model working so far [My home city's Occupy protest]
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eugeneweekly.com
URL Source: http://eugeneweekly.com/2011/10/20/news1.html
Published: Oct 22, 2011
Author: By Andrew Hitz and Camilla Mortensen. Ph
Post Date: 2011-10-22 17:00:35 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 67008
Comments: 163
People in suits and people in casual clothes, cubical workers and day laborers, Duck fans and tie-dye hippies all made their way from the Wayne Morse Free Speech Plaza down to the Ferry Street Bridge Oct. 15 around 4 pm to Occupy Eugene. The crowd of 2,000 beamed smiles at each other — and high-fived the Eugene police — as they marched in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street. The group has drawn together as a nonviolent movement for accountability that is not longer content to let “corporate and special interests run their government,” according to occupyeugene.com “We — are — the 99 percent!” some chanted at the front of the crowd of almost 2,000. Eugene’s Saturday gathering was the 11th largest occupy event in the nation. “The people — united — will never be divided!” chanted others farther back. “I believe in independence, true independence and justice,” said a young woman who gave her name only as Ariel. “I think there is a serious lack of that at the moment. Everyone here is standing for so many different things but, I think when it comes down to it we can agree on those two things — as Americans.” Lauren Regan of the Civil Liberties Defense Center said, “The group has consensed upon Occupy Wall Street’s demands, but not yet our own demands which may address local issues.” Occupy Wall Street’s demands, which include disavowing corporations as individuals, “are pretty damn clear,” she says. Regan adds, “This is a nonpartisan, very broad movement that includes everyone from Republicans to anarchists.” Occupy Eugene, like Occupy Wall Street and other occupy gatherings, is run by a consensus process that Regan says is remarkably efficient. The webpage downtwinkles.com, which features a video of a Cascadia Forest Defender at Occupy Portland explaining the consensus process, is becoming a viral hit. Occupy Eugene’s Saturday general assembly reached consensus on following the St. Paul Principles, which are principles of solidarity that came out of the 2008 protests at the Republican National Convention in Minnesota. The principles include not denouncing fellow activists and events and respect for a diversity of tactics and the plans of other groups. John Flanery, a facilitator of general assemblies at the occupation and a We The People activist who participated in the march, said, “I’m tired of the collusion between big business and government am no longer willing to be ruled by the one percent.” Cooperative efforts were made Saturday night by Food Not Bombs and The Last Stand Coffee Co., among others, to provide food and drink for those occupying; the more tech-savvy connected a live stream at http://occupyeugenemedia.org/livestream/ to the web. About 100 or so of the supporters have been meeting up on a daily basis for the general assemblies that occur at 7 am and 7 pm. Fewer have been spending the night at the occupation, but supplies like tents, sleeping bags and food abound, and a first aid tent is available. How long the occupation will last is a matter of community dialogue and coordination, organizers say. Theoretically, the Saturday Market will take place on the Park Blocks next week as usual. This has caused concern for some artisans from the Saturday Market, a number of whom made a showing at the Sunday evening general assembly. Occupy Eugene says there has been an ongoing dialogue between the market and Occupy Eugene. Embodied in a spirit of collective uprising and self-reliance is not only the recognition of a broken system, but a willingness to repair it, occupiers say. David Parziale, a senior environmental studies major at the UO, say this was the Eugene he had heard of before entering school. “I came to Eugene because I thought this was a place where there would be a nice mix of between university and the activism that Eugene has a history of having,” he says. “I came here because I thought it was a place where there would be people rising up because there were unjust wars going on. This, finally, after I’m almost done with college — this is why occupy is happening. There’s finally people trying to speak up.” 
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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
It's about time the left work up and realized they have been getting hosed as badly as those of us on the right. At this point in history the fight shouldn't be between the right and the left. It should be between the citizens and those who would be our masters and destroy our culture for personal profits.
What you say is so right on the money. Look at the French Resistance for example; French communist party members worked side by side with very rightwing people united in the goal of expelling the foul invaders. They were united in their goal, and brothers and sisters in arms against the German Nazi foe. Those we oppose want us to fight among ourselves and to be unable to form a united front. Right wing people are not my ememies in this struggle; they are my brothers and sisters in this battle.
I've noticed how the Masters are pitting the OWS crowd vs the Tea Party. How convenient. Dumbass Stoner is falling for it.
I'm falling for it. lol. I'm voting against Obama. Ferret is going to vote to reelect him. You probably too.
This is bait. Look at my tagline.
Will you take the "I will not vote for Obama no matte what pledge"?
You often try to bully me about not being your faith, and here you want to browbeat me about November 2012. Won't work. Whether I vote, or don't vote or decide to vote for, I wait for the election season to be well under way before I worry about who I vote for. I didn't give President Obama any donations last election, and I wrote in someone in the primary. That is not the behavior of someone who allegedly sees this guy as a savior of some sort. Give it a rest.
No,but the fact that you somehow "overlooked" making the statement that you didn't vote for him in the general election speaks louder than all your protests. I say the same thing to both you and Stone. "You are either a part of the solution,or you are a part of the problem."
With respect, my vote for President Obama in 2008 is a matter of record. I see no need to repeat myself, especially in light of how I am talking to Stone who has trouble telling bait apart from debate.
Then you are (were?) no different than the people you were complaining about. "Physician,heal thyself!"
I reached the conclusion a long time ago I'd never see a decent POTUS in my lifetime. Which made it quite annoying to hear people harp on me that I saw President Obama as 'my hero.' I voted against McNasty and the Tundra trash as much as anything. The annoyance of the shrillness of the attacks during the election had more to do with my choice then you will ever know. Suffice it to say, if I was so much a fan, I would of donate to him last time. The only one I put money on in terms of donations was Dr. no during the primary season. I would say right now, the attacks on his wife and daughters bother me far more than the least petty ones directed at President Obama. The process needs more comity to it. For example; the birfer game and the insult concerning his step dad's name is a yawn to me. Myself, I had a step dad and he wanted us to adopt his last name which I tried briefly in forth grade as kids have a propensity to want to please the adults they deal with. That name would of been especially unbearible had my name been 'James.' Michael Bond was bad enough as not only was the secret agent thing big back then, there was a brand of bread back East by that name in the 1960s. I'm sure had I risen to the level of Senator then POTUS, people hating me would be calling me Mike Bond instead of Mike McCarthy. So I just feel sympathy for the bastard when I read your signature with a name in it that is not his.
You mean again. You saw Reagan. Or at least his image on TV. You saw a great president and were to biased to realize it. The Reagan years were the best years of your life.
You saw a great president and were to biased to realize it. The Reagan years were the best years of your life. Lots of people, lost lots of money in S and Ls that was not insured during the Reagan regime. I knew two who lost their entire retirement savings. One lost over 150,000 which was quite a lot of money in the eighties.
That happened during Bush if I recall. Regardless it wasn't Reagans fault for the Saving and loans. It was the Saving and loans problem. Just like it isnt Obamas fault that he inherited a huge debt. It is Obamas fault for his debt and how he screwed it up and made it even worse.
Just like it isnt Obamas fault that he inherited a huge debt. It is Obamas fault for his debt and how he screwed it up and made it even worse. Then your recall is faulty. You really need to bone up a little more on the Reagan years. The huge debt that Carter added to and passed down to him was initially incurred under Nixon Did you know that the concept of Cap and Trade was also created and implemented during his regime? He said it was quite successful. And of course let's not forget the largest amnesty in my lifetime.
Yet,the beginning of it was legislation passed and signed into law during the LBJ years. The whole "Big Society" thing. Guess what? Somebody has to pay for all the "free stuff". Not to mention paying for VN. Of course,Nixon did his own piling on by creating the EPA.
#95. To: sneakypete, war (#94)
Democrats blame Republicans for debt. When the fact is their unconstitutional programs are what are bankrupting us. We are still paying for assholes like FDR and Johnson.
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#3. To: sneakypete (#1)
"At this point in history the fight shouldn't be between the right and the left. It should be between the citizens and those who would be our masters and destroy our culture for personal profits."
#5. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
Right wing people are not my enemies in this struggle; they are my brothers and sisters in this battle.
#16. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
#37. To: A K A Stone (#16)
"Ferret is going to vote to reelect him. You probably too."
#41. To: Ferret Mike (#37)
#47. To: A K A Stone (#41)
"Will you take the "I will not vote for Obama no matte what pledge"?"
#61. To: Ferret Mike (#47)
I didn't give President Obama any donations last election, and I wrote in someone in the primary. That is not the behavior of someone who allegedly sees this guy as a savior of some sort.
#64. To: sneakypete (#61)
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"No,but the fact that you somehow "overlooked" making the statement that you didn't vote for him in the general election speaks louder than all your protests."
#76. To: Ferret Mike (#64)
With respect, my vote for President Obama in 2008 is a matter of record.
#81. To: sneakypete (#76)
com·i·ty/Èkämit/ Noun: 1.Courtesy and considerate behavior toward others. 2.An association of nations for their mutual benefit.
#84. To: Ferret Mike (#81)
I reached the conclusion a long time ago I'd never see a decent POTUS in my lifetime.
#87. To: A K A Stone (#84)
You mean again. You saw Reagan. Or at least his image on TV.
#88. To: mininggold (#87)
#90. To: A K A Stone (#88)
That happened during Bush if I recall. Regardless it wasn't Reagans fault for the Saving and loans. It was the Saving and loans problem.
#94. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#90)
The huge debt that Carter added to and passed down to him was initially incurred under Nixon
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