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Title: Occupy Eugene Ongoing - Consensus model working so far [My home city's Occupy protest]
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eugeneweekly.com
URL Source: http://eugeneweekly.com/2011/10/20/news1.html
Published: Oct 22, 2011
Author: By Andrew Hitz and Camilla Mortensen. Ph
Post Date: 2011-10-22 17:00:35 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 68534
Comments: 163
People in suits and people in casual clothes, cubical workers and day laborers, Duck fans and tie-dye hippies all made their way from the Wayne Morse Free Speech Plaza down to the Ferry Street Bridge Oct. 15 around 4 pm to Occupy Eugene. The crowd of 2,000 beamed smiles at each other — and high-fived the Eugene police — as they marched in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street. The group has drawn together as a nonviolent movement for accountability that is not longer content to let “corporate and special interests run their government,” according to occupyeugene.com “We — are — the 99 percent!” some chanted at the front of the crowd of almost 2,000. Eugene’s Saturday gathering was the 11th largest occupy event in the nation. “The people — united — will never be divided!” chanted others farther back. “I believe in independence, true independence and justice,” said a young woman who gave her name only as Ariel. “I think there is a serious lack of that at the moment. Everyone here is standing for so many different things but, I think when it comes down to it we can agree on those two things — as Americans.” Lauren Regan of the Civil Liberties Defense Center said, “The group has consensed upon Occupy Wall Street’s demands, but not yet our own demands which may address local issues.” Occupy Wall Street’s demands, which include disavowing corporations as individuals, “are pretty damn clear,” she says. Regan adds, “This is a nonpartisan, very broad movement that includes everyone from Republicans to anarchists.” Occupy Eugene, like Occupy Wall Street and other occupy gatherings, is run by a consensus process that Regan says is remarkably efficient. The webpage downtwinkles.com, which features a video of a Cascadia Forest Defender at Occupy Portland explaining the consensus process, is becoming a viral hit. Occupy Eugene’s Saturday general assembly reached consensus on following the St. Paul Principles, which are principles of solidarity that came out of the 2008 protests at the Republican National Convention in Minnesota. The principles include not denouncing fellow activists and events and respect for a diversity of tactics and the plans of other groups. John Flanery, a facilitator of general assemblies at the occupation and a We The People activist who participated in the march, said, “I’m tired of the collusion between big business and government am no longer willing to be ruled by the one percent.” Cooperative efforts were made Saturday night by Food Not Bombs and The Last Stand Coffee Co., among others, to provide food and drink for those occupying; the more tech-savvy connected a live stream at http://occupyeugenemedia.org/livestream/ to the web. About 100 or so of the supporters have been meeting up on a daily basis for the general assemblies that occur at 7 am and 7 pm. Fewer have been spending the night at the occupation, but supplies like tents, sleeping bags and food abound, and a first aid tent is available. How long the occupation will last is a matter of community dialogue and coordination, organizers say. Theoretically, the Saturday Market will take place on the Park Blocks next week as usual. This has caused concern for some artisans from the Saturday Market, a number of whom made a showing at the Sunday evening general assembly. Occupy Eugene says there has been an ongoing dialogue between the market and Occupy Eugene. Embodied in a spirit of collective uprising and self-reliance is not only the recognition of a broken system, but a willingness to repair it, occupiers say. David Parziale, a senior environmental studies major at the UO, say this was the Eugene he had heard of before entering school. “I came to Eugene because I thought this was a place where there would be a nice mix of between university and the activism that Eugene has a history of having,” he says. “I came here because I thought it was a place where there would be people rising up because there were unjust wars going on. This, finally, after I’m almost done with college — this is why occupy is happening. There’s finally people trying to speak up.” 
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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
It's about time the left work up and realized they have been getting hosed as badly as those of us on the right. At this point in history the fight shouldn't be between the right and the left. It should be between the citizens and those who would be our masters and destroy our culture for personal profits.
What you say is so right on the money. Look at the French Resistance for example; French communist party members worked side by side with very rightwing people united in the goal of expelling the foul invaders. They were united in their goal, and brothers and sisters in arms against the German Nazi foe. Those we oppose want us to fight among ourselves and to be unable to form a united front. Right wing people are not my ememies in this struggle; they are my brothers and sisters in this battle.
I've noticed how the Masters are pitting the OWS crowd vs the Tea Party. How convenient. Dumbass Stoner is falling for it.
I'm falling for it. lol. I'm voting against Obama. Ferret is going to vote to reelect him. You probably too.
This is bait. Look at my tagline.
Will you take the "I will not vote for Obama no matte what pledge"?
You often try to bully me about not being your faith, and here you want to browbeat me about November 2012. Won't work. Whether I vote, or don't vote or decide to vote for, I wait for the election season to be well under way before I worry about who I vote for. I didn't give President Obama any donations last election, and I wrote in someone in the primary. That is not the behavior of someone who allegedly sees this guy as a savior of some sort. Give it a rest.
No,but the fact that you somehow "overlooked" making the statement that you didn't vote for him in the general election speaks louder than all your protests. I say the same thing to both you and Stone. "You are either a part of the solution,or you are a part of the problem."
With respect, my vote for President Obama in 2008 is a matter of record. I see no need to repeat myself, especially in light of how I am talking to Stone who has trouble telling bait apart from debate.
Then you are (were?) no different than the people you were complaining about. "Physician,heal thyself!"
I reached the conclusion a long time ago I'd never see a decent POTUS in my lifetime. Which made it quite annoying to hear people harp on me that I saw President Obama as 'my hero.' I voted against McNasty and the Tundra trash as much as anything. The annoyance of the shrillness of the attacks during the election had more to do with my choice then you will ever know. Suffice it to say, if I was so much a fan, I would of donate to him last time. The only one I put money on in terms of donations was Dr. no during the primary season. I would say right now, the attacks on his wife and daughters bother me far more than the least petty ones directed at President Obama. The process needs more comity to it. For example; the birfer game and the insult concerning his step dad's name is a yawn to me. Myself, I had a step dad and he wanted us to adopt his last name which I tried briefly in forth grade as kids have a propensity to want to please the adults they deal with. That name would of been especially unbearible had my name been 'James.' Michael Bond was bad enough as not only was the secret agent thing big back then, there was a brand of bread back East by that name in the 1960s. I'm sure had I risen to the level of Senator then POTUS, people hating me would be calling me Mike Bond instead of Mike McCarthy. So I just feel sympathy for the bastard when I read your signature with a name in it that is not his.
Reagan was a decent man. That idiot Jim-Mah Cawtur was a decent man,even if he was and is a poster child for ignorance on parade. I voted against McNasty and the Tundra trash as much as anything. McLunatic was and is more of a danger to the Republic than Barry Soetoro is in his wildest dreams. He had experience and favors owed to back him if he had been elected,plus he knew first-hand where a lot of the bodies in the US Senate were buried. You hate Palin because at that time she was still a conservative,and she was telling the truth about your idols of the left. She reminded you at a subliminal level how little support your political philosophy has amongst the typical American citizen,and you know in your heart that if the alleged Republican ticket had been upside down with her at the top that they would have beaten the Chocolate Messiah like a rented mule. And I can guarantee you that you have ZERO standing to call her trash while supporting evil bitches like Bubbette! Clinton,Mad Maxine Walters,Nancy Pelosi,and other Dim females. She has more character and a better mind than all of them combined,and it burns your ass. The annoyance of the shrillness of the attacks during the election had more to do with my choice then you will ever know. What are you complaining about? The man you voted for stated in public that he hated America and white people,was a product of Affirmative Action that never ONCE accomplished anything based on merit or hard work,and didn't even consider himself to be an American. He identified himself as a African,right up to the point where he won the Dim primary. Anybody that DIDN'T complain about that asshole and the moral bankruptcy of the Dim Party either has no mind or no conscience. Maybe even neither. The only one I put money on in terms of donations was Dr. no during the primary season. Yet in the end you voted for the one candidate that was and is diametrically opposed to everything Ron Paul has ever said or stood for. This is what you have in common with the Party Animals that voted for McLunatic because he had a R behind his name. Political stances are nothing,and having the "right" union label behind your name is what is important when push comes to shove and you enter the voting booth. I would say right now, the attacks on his wife and daughters bother me far more than the least petty ones directed at President Obama. His wife is a more masculine version of him,making her a evil bitch. Another America hater,and another product of Affirmative Action. Calling her a Wookie is insulting to Wookies. I agree that his daughters are off-limits,and anybody that has gone after them should be ashamed of themselves. They are nothing but children,and are not responsible for the sins of their parents. After all,they ain't like Chelsea "Howdy Doody" Clinton,and sitting in on international political discussions with world leaders to give them her alleged wisdom. They are just little girls running around and being little girls. There can be no doubt that they are going to be prime candidates for criticism 10 years from now,though. Like their mother and Chelsea Clinton,they will graduate from college and immediately get hired at 6 figure salaries for no-show jobs. That's how political payoffs are done. To be honest,this won't really be their faults,though. This is the atmosphere they have been raised in,and they don't and won't know any better. The process needs more comity to it. For example; the birfer game and the insult concerning his step dad's name is a yawn to me. Uh,huh. But it is ok to call Palin Tundra Trash,right? Not to mention spread lies about her retarded son being Bristol's son,her having affairs,etc,etc,etc? I'm sure had I risen to the level of Senator then POTUS, people hating me would be calling me Mike Bond instead of Mike McCarthy. I'm sure they would have if you had legally had your name changed to Mike Bond,and never had it legally changed back to Mike McCarthy. Which is what Barry Soetoro has done and refuses to explain how he could have had a passport with the Soetoro name on it as an adult,and then suddenly appear on the political scene in the US as Barry Obama with no documents explaining the name change. So I just feel sympathy for the bastard when I read your signature with a name in it that is not his. Crocodile tears. Soetoro IS his last known legal name.
#92. To: sneakypete (#85)
Actually, you are wrong. I found her antics concerning the race amusing, pointless and relatively harmless except to the people who's pockets she picked dialing for dollars whereever, whenever and however she could do so. I am an environmentalist. The second she ordered that wolf kill by aircraft in Alaska she became my enemy. Considering his skin tone is within the normal range of some of the darker Euroethnic folks out there including me, I would say I'm surprised so many people went for white chocolate, as that brand of candy convection is considered the least popular among the general public. This is some expansive rhetoric. I wouldn't use shch a broad brush as you concerning Affirmative Action. The results have had a mixed result. But it is nowhere near as bad where it was less than successful as the racism and the exclusion created by it was in the century or bfore the Civil Rights Movement in the 1950s. I also have never forgotten it was never meant to be set in stone. If it has no purpose anymore, it should be ended. As for the alligation President Obama hated White folks, that is a stretch considering half his liniage is White. I never heard him say he hated Caucasians, and I never heard him claim to be African; only that he has African heritage because of the country of origin of his Dad. This is what you have in common with the Party Animals that voted for McLunatic because he had a R behind his name." And I used to like LBJ who was the traitorous bastard who was part of the conspiracy to murder JFK. Where President Obama stands in relation to Ron paul's political paradigm was not a consideration when I voted. As I said, I primarily voted against the Republican ticket. As for the 'D' behind his name, I don't have one on my voter's card. I am a Pacific Green. I gave up being a Precinct committee person slot and other earned standing when I jettisoned that party from my registration. Being Democrat does not get a get out of jail free card from me because they are of that party. All smoke and mirrors. As far as I'm concerned, I have not only not seen this sort of documentation, I don't particularly care about issues invloving someone using their birth name, or even the name they prefer to use. I see that as a tempest in a teapot, much as any grumpling about how evil michelle Obama is. She is not an elected official and she is a very smart and compassionate woman who has done much in her private career. I like her more then Barack. In any event, being a beautiful woman with smarts would make me happy to have a date with her were she single. ;-)
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#3. To: sneakypete (#1)
"At this point in history the fight shouldn't be between the right and the left. It should be between the citizens and those who would be our masters and destroy our culture for personal profits."
#5. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
Right wing people are not my enemies in this struggle; they are my brothers and sisters in this battle.
#16. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
#37. To: A K A Stone (#16)
"Ferret is going to vote to reelect him. You probably too."
#41. To: Ferret Mike (#37)
#47. To: A K A Stone (#41)
"Will you take the "I will not vote for Obama no matte what pledge"?"
#61. To: Ferret Mike (#47)
I didn't give President Obama any donations last election, and I wrote in someone in the primary. That is not the behavior of someone who allegedly sees this guy as a savior of some sort.
#64. To: sneakypete (#61)
(Edited)
"No,but the fact that you somehow "overlooked" making the statement that you didn't vote for him in the general election speaks louder than all your protests."
#76. To: Ferret Mike (#64)
With respect, my vote for President Obama in 2008 is a matter of record.
#81. To: sneakypete (#76)
com·i·ty/Èkämit/ Noun: 1.Courtesy and considerate behavior toward others. 2.An association of nations for their mutual benefit.
#85. To: Ferret Mike (#81)
I reached the conclusion a long time ago I'd never see a decent POTUS in my lifetime.
Replies to Comment # 85. "You hate Palin because at that time she was still a conservative,and she was telling the truth about your idols of the left."
"...would have beaten the Chocolate Messiah like a rented mule."
"The man you voted for stated in public that he hated America and white people,was a product of Affirmative Action that never ONCE accomplished anything based on merit or hard work,and didn't even consider himself to be an American. He identified himself as a African,right up to the point where he won the Dim primary."
" Yet in the end you voted for the one candidate that was and is diametrically opposed to everything Ron Paul has ever said or stood for.
"Which is what Barry Soetoro has done and refuses to explain how he could have had a passport with the Soetoro name on it as an adult,and then suddenly appear on the political scene in the US as Barry Obama with no documents explaining the name change."
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