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Title: Occupy Wall Street Updates: National Convention In the Works? More Occupy Songs and Clashes Overseas
Source: AlterNet
URL Source: http://www.alternet.org/newsandview ... py_songs_and_clashes_overseas/
Published: Oct 20, 2011
Author: Sarah Seltzer
Post Date: 2011-10-20 13:01:28 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 2699
Comments: 9

Occupy Wall Street and its sister occupations around the world continue to gain steam. At home, the protesters have directed the national dialogue away from "deficit" and towards distribution of wealth, a major win.

Here are some updates from around the web.

A new working group has formed to try to convene a national General Assembly to meet in Philadelphia just like the original  Founding Fathers did--on July 4th, no less. The goal would be to petition congress with a list of grievances. It's quite a fascinating idea, and worth reading the proposal at length. UPDATE: However it should be noted that this is in no way an official plan nor is necessarily endorsed by the collective currently occupying Zuccotti Park.

The People, consisting of all United States citizens who have reached the age of 18, regardless of party affiliation and voter registration status, shall elect Two Delegates, one male and one female, by direct vote, from each of the existing 435 Congressional Districts to represent the People at the NATIONAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY in Philadelphia. Said Assembly shall convene on July 4, 2012 in the city of Philadelphia.  "

Meanwhile, within the occupations, efforts at incorporating voices of people of color and other marginalized communities continue to grow. A great new blog called "In Front and Center" has arived to combine solidarity with the 99% and criticism of the movement at the same time. Well worth bookmarking as the occupations spread and face inevitable stresses:

We are a group that has been participating in the Occupy Wall Street movement. We are part of the 99% and are united in solidarity with all those who are fighting to change the direction in this country.  As participants of this occupation, we also believe that solidarity and criticism go together. We are people of color and allies who want to ensure that the voices, experiences and issues of the most oppressed and marginalized communities are in the front and center of this movement.

The literary community has embraced Occupy Wall Street. In fact, so many people have been visiting occupywriters.com to see whether their favorite authors are standing with the 99% that the servers are crashing. But htat didn't stop Commentary magazine from running a diatribe against the site and declaring the writers (many of the nation's best, the writer said begrudgingly) who have signed on to be idiots who are betraying their calling. Or something. Signatory Salman Rushdie tweeted: "Hurray! I'm an Idiot Who Hates Freedom!  says so, so it's true! "

You know what they say about bad publicity from Commentary...

Meanwhile, away from potshots thrown by literary and journalistic elites, the movement continues worldwide. Here is the Guardian on the protests in London which are proceeding peacefully and in Greece, where a general strike has been called and clashes with police are occurring. Pictures of the action in Greece are here.

 Back home again, here's another hip-hope anthem for the protests, filmed on site and with very specific rhymes that address the protests quite eloquently. Have a listen!

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#1. To: Brian Goebbels SS (#0)

Occupy Wall Street and its sister occupations around the world continue to gain steam.

"Steam"? It's more like methane.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-20   13:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Liberator (#1) (Edited)

Goebbels SS

Goebbels, Hitlers #1 spineless lapdog. Followed a madman all the way to the grave, and took his wife, and six children with him....

Murron  posted on  2011-10-20   13:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

We need a poll tax !

It's really hard to get money out of these vegetables - weeds !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-10-20   13:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

The dnc - neocom is the crips - bloods !

Pushing their street agenda to rob the public !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-10-20   14:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Murron (#2)

Goebbels, Hitlers #1 spineless lapdog. Followed a madman all the way to the grave, and took his wife, and six children with him....

That is historically true. But in all fairness, Hitler's "spineless lapdogs were legion.

I don't doubt that LF's House Commies would similarly perform the same "duty" in their respective bunkers were their Muslim-Commie Fuehrer deposed.... But until then they will continue to help sabotage and undermine the US constitution, our freedoms, and morale by engaging in Goebbels-like propaganda. Btw, have you seen 'Downfall', the movie based on Hitler's last days in the bunker? The one all the Hitler spoofs are based on? Great movie... The sycophancy of Goebbels and his wife is highlighted.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-20   14:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Liberator (#5) (Edited)

Btw, have you seen 'Downfall', the movie based on Hitler's last days in the bunker? The one all the Hitler spoofs are based on? Great movie... The sycophancy of Goebbels and his wife is highlighted.

No, I've not seen 'Downfall', I'll check it out though, thanks.

My interest, my passion, which I think has slowly turned into an obsession has recently been focused on 12 men (documentaries/bios), but there were only 6 who were closest to Hitler, each jealous of the other's, always scheming for the #2 place beside der fuhrer.

These men wove the complicities and plots without which Hitler could have never perpetrated the crime of the century. They helped to sway the judges and the bureaucrats, the armed forces and the police, the scientists and the industrialists, the students and their teachers to the regime's ways of thinking.

I'm very curious as to why these mostly educated people could believe in and follow this madman, but I suppose their lives and economy were just as miserable then as ours is today, they needed a leader who could make things better, and I suppose most just didn't understand how far he'd go to achieve those goals, but whatever, he could not have done anything without his Henchmen.

What kind of people were they? What inspired them to serve a corrupt administration with such enthusiasm and devotion?

The Propagandist/Firebrand - Joseph Goebbels

The Marshall - Hermann Goering

The Deputy - Rudolf Hess

The Executioner - Heinrich Himmler

The Admiral - Karl Doenitz

The Architect - Albert Speer

Bureaucrat of Murder - Adolf Eichmann

The Secretary - Martin Bormann

The Corruptor of Youth - Baldur von Schirach

Diplomat of Evil - Joachim von Ribbentrop

Doctor of Death - Josef Mengele

Arbitrator over Death and Life - Roland Freisler

I don't know if there are any simularities between Hitlers administraton and this one we live under today, but I do see people in large numbers being swayed all over again to hate the jews, they're more than willing to condemn this people without a shred of evidence, they continue today to blame the Jewish nation for all of this worlds suffering and misery, instead of looking closer to home. Hitler could not have achieved what he did in Europe without the loyalty and aid of his henchmen, he gave the orders, and they did the dirty work. JMHO!

Murron  posted on  2011-10-20   20:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Murron (#6)

Netflix has a very interesting documentary on Joseph Goebbels.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-20   20:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Netflix has a very interesting documentary on Joseph Goebbels.

Thanks, I'll look it up. I've watched several home movies of him and his family, his children and wife were beautiful, the kids had so much talent between them, I will never understand how he could choose loyalty to a lunatic over his family.

Murron  posted on  2011-10-20   20:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Murron (#6)

My interest, my passion, which I think has slowly turned into an obsession has recently been focused on 12 men (documentaries/bios), but there were only 6 who were closest to Hitler, each jealous of the other's, always scheming for the #2 place beside der fuhrer.

These men wove the complicities and plots without which Hitler could have never perpetrated the crime of the century. They helped to sway the judges and the bureaucrats, the armed forces and the police, the scientists and the industrialists, the students and their teachers to the regime's ways of thinking. I'm very curious as to why these mostly educated people could believe in and follow this madman, but I suppose their lives and economy were just as miserable then as ours is today, they needed a leader who could make things better, and I suppose most just didn't understand how far he'd go to achieve those goals, but whatever, he could not have done anything without his Henchmen.

What kind of people were they? What inspired them to serve a corrupt administration with such enthusiasm and devotion?

The Propagandist/Firebrand - Joseph Goebbels

The Marshall - Hermann Goering

The Deputy - Rudolf Hess

The Executioner - Heinrich Himmler

The Admiral - Karl Doenitz

The Architect - Albert Speer

Bureaucrat of Murder - Adolf Eichmann

The Secretary - Martin Bormann

The Corruptor of Youth - Baldur von Schirach

Diplomat of Evil - Joachim von Ribbentrop

Doctor of Death - Josef Mengele

Arbitrator over Death and Life - Roland Freisler

Since I was young, I've always found Hitler's Rise and Fall fascinating - as well as his cast of henchmen and tools. They all had their roles. It reads like a script, doesn't it?

I don't know if there are any simularities between Hitlers administraton and this one we live under today, but I do see people in large numbers being swayed all over again to hate the jews, they're more than willing to condemn this people without a shred of evidence, they continue today to blame the Jewish nation for all of this worlds suffering and misery, instead of looking closer to home. Hitler could not have achieved what he did in Europe without the loyalty and aid of his henchmen, he gave the orders, and they did the dirty work. JMHO!

Israel is the eternal scapegoat of the World. Communism and Fascism are the eternal persecutors of the World.

Conservatives see plenty of similarities and parallels between Hitler and h0bama. It was All about POWER then - just as today. h0bama and his inner-circle of Commie-Fascists are infatuated and obsessed with their own respective megalomania. In h0bama's cabinet I see Hitler's inner-circle, don't you?

Making things "better" is relative to Commie-Fascists-Statists. Corruption is just a justifiable means to an end to them. They have no morals, no ethics. For them it's about revenge and creating a caste system of enslavement - while eliminating their "enemies," conservatives.

Of Hitlers "Henchmen, I found Albert Speer the most compelling. According to his biography written in prison he was an educated architect and family man, and "convenient" Nazi with many qualms about Hitler's ideology. Of course he portrayed himself as a Nazi outsider and mostly un-privy to the mass murder and mayhem. Hitler had promised the intoxicated Speer that he'd be THE architect for the "new" Berlin. Speer sold his soul for glory.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-21   12:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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