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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In 911 See other 911 Articles Title: Breaking News: 9/11 Was Carried out by the US GOVT & Osama W BUSH Source: libertypost URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=161803&Disp=26#C26 Published: Oct 11, 2006 Author: sleepy2k16 Post Date: 2006-10-11 10:49:38 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 8614 Comments: 16 This post may not last, So if Copy and paste the info onto notepad or wordpad and do not refresh this page. Thx. More info goto http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html and my favorite: http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm I am going to give reasons proving The U.S. Govt did it, how they did it, and at the end I am going to give reasons why they did it. 1. Operation Northwoods, "N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.": http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&pa...id=92662&page=1 2. Alex Jones Predicts Attack (Mentioned on FOX news): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8116395518760933323&q=alex+jones+predicts+attack&hl=en 3. God Help Us: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2024198565295094630&q=alex+jones+a+call+to+action&hl=en 4. At least 4 hijackers turned up alive, but i heard as many as 9 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm 5. The melting Point of Steel is 3000F and Fire is around 500-700F with burning Jet fuel around 1200-1400F. Skeptics have claimed, Steel doesnt Have to melt, but only weaken to collpase, This May be true, HOWEVER, It would not make a 1/4 Mile High Skyscraper, Collapse in 9-10 Seconds. 6. An increase of 400% increase in put options on 9-6-01 and 9-7-01 on serveral airline stocks. An increase of 1100% Increase an in increase of put options on airline stocks on 9-10-01 7. FBI confinscated tapes at a nearby hotel and gas station minutes after the "plane" hit the pentagon. 8. Debris from the building was taken and illegally sold to china before anybody could really investigate. 9. If you watch the video of the towers coming down, You can notice bombs going off in the building. 10. Larry Silverstein Admitted blowing up WTC7 On a PBS Documentary. Skeptics Have Claimed He meant He was Pulling the Firefighters From the Building. Thats Funny, I thought When you call a person or persons "him" "them" or "em" not "it". Meanwhile The firefighters Were already Pulled from the Building 7 Houes before it Collpased. Skeptics Have Claimed, Well Maybe he did hit the Dynamite, But It takes severals weeks for them to carefully place explosives in a building. Call any Demolition Company. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=larry+silverstein+pull+it&hl=en 11. Larry Silverstein got High Insurance on WTC7 Including terrosm insurance. 12. 6 Months Before 9/11 They passed laws saying No pilots can carry guns, when pilots were allowed to carry guns for 40 years. (I am not sure this is 100% Accurate, I need to look into this more. Please Let me know if you find anything.) 13. As Charlie Sheen said, How can a plane make a 270 degree turn and drop 7000 feet in attitude in less then 2 minutes? 14. I heard it is impossible for cell phones to work on planes moving at 500mph and at 30000 Feet. 15. The "hijackers" said the wrong islamic message when approaching death. Who was 16. Survivors and Eye witnesses Reporting seeing, hearing explosions. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2032865563019209801&q=9+11+FIREFIGHTERS&hl=en Laugh at the Firefighters!! 17. Thermite was found at the scene. BYU Professor Steve E. Jones Have tested Postive some substance for Thermite, It was later Proven to cut the Main Pillars in the World Trade Center. It was the yellow goowy substance Dripping From the towers as CNN, FOX, Etc reported on 9/11/01. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635198488,00.html 18. Janitor was offered Millions of dallors to shut up and he refused, or so he said. See Video #6 19. Science Says Buildings Collasping CAN NOT fall at the speed of gravity unless Dynimite. 20. In the New American Century Dick Cheney Said We need a new Pearl Harbor. "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century 21. Less then 15 Million Was spend Investigating 9-11 and more then 45 Million on Clintons Sex Life. (Appox) 22. How can a 757 That is 129' Wide Make a 16' Hole? 23. Between Both Engines on Flight 77 Or a 757, Its combined weight is 10-12 Tons. It is made of Steel And Titnium. Its melting Point is around 2600F. The Fire didnt get anywhre near that tempurature at the Pentagon. Yet No Engines Were Found. 24. You think fire can cause this?: http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20060820.htm http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/13/more_bone_fragments_found_near_wtc_site/?rss_id=Boston.com+%2F+News 25. Bush say the First Plane hit the First Tower! LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6kouXg40Q&mode=related&search 26. Jimmy Walter Is offering $100,000 To Anybody Who can Prove 9/11 Was NOT An Inside Job. Even PM Couldnt Stand Up. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41957 For more evidence watch these films: 1. http://www.loosechange911.com http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change&hl=en 2. 9/11 The Greatest Lie ever sold: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6952102263921897950&q=9%2F11+THE+GREATEST+LIE+EVER+SOLD&hl=en 3. 9/11 the Road to Tyranny: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6517776133137328105&q=9%2F11+the+Road+to+Tyranny&hl=en 4. Masters of Terror: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7752483415674202196&q=MASTERS+OF+TERROR 5. Martial Law: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661&q=MARTIAL+LAW+RISE+OF+POLICE+STATE 6. C-SPAN conference: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5004704309041471296&q=AMERICAN+C+SPAN 7. TerrorStorm: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230&hl=en Now I am going to give you why they did it, then i will share some links. 1. Patriot act 2. Patriot act 2 3. Eliminate the Consitution 4. Bring forth the NWO 5. Bankrupt the USA to bring forth a NWO 6. Scare americans to give up there right in exchange for "security" when you will just get tyranny and a police state. 7. Justify an Iraq War. 8. Bring forth a Real ID Act, which was passed on 5-11-05, and then the "mark of the beast" 9. To Pretty Much Allow Bush to do anything He wants. Look at this: http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=504353 Now if you want links goto http://www.911blogger.com/ and check that out and there are 50 links on the right hand side. Also check out http://www.infowars.com http://prisonplanet.com http://www.jonesreport.com Last But not Least: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/911%20Cover-up/truth_about_911.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html Hitler Once Said, The Bigger the Lie, The easier it is Believed. War on terror is a scam!! "In January of 2003 FBI and CIA whistleblowers told Capitol Hill Blue that the White House was scripting phony terror alerts to maintain hysteria, upkeep President Bushs approval ratings and milk extra defense funding. The report that five Pakistani men had entered the States via Canada and were planning on carrying out a dirty bomb or biological attack was completely conjured up by the Bush administrations black propaganda office. New York Harbor was shut down to visibly pump up the fear. One of the named suspects, Mohammed Asghar (pictured left), was tracked down to Pakistan by the Associated Press. He was a fat guy running a jewellers shop and had never even been to America. http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/red_alert_for_staged_terror_attack.htm Thank You for reading, We must fight this and expose this and resist The New World Order, and Resist the cashless society. Poster Comment: There sleepyk216 it will not vanish now. Can someone inform this guy that his paper is now up here. Thanks Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: A K A Stone (#0) did you get that from my home page? lol Al Jazeera - Fox News Channel - correspondent - Steve Centanni TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-11   11:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: TLBSHOW (#1) No someone on LP posted it. He (and I for that matter) don't think it will last over there. So I preserved it for him out of the goodness of my heart. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-11   11:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: A K A Stone (#2) that is why i saved it over the weekend after it ws posted at freerepublic and then zoted Al Jazeera - Fox News Channel - correspondent - Steve Centanni TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-11   11:57:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: All (#0) From Botland, Notice how the dummies such as Badeye and White Sands etc. can't address the questions posed in the article. They can just use the kook, or some space alien graphic. Why can't they address and refute the claims in the article? Because there is truth in the article. 1. To: sleepy2k16 (#0) languid posted on 2006-10-11 09:28:20 ET (1 image) Reply Trace 2. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) Seems the closer we get to each election, the more often this sort of crap appears. Badeye posted on 2006-10-11 09:28:52 ET Reply Trace 3. To: sleepy2k16 (#0) I'm listening barf alert posted on 2006-10-11 09:37:21 ET (1 image) Reply Trace 4. To: Badeye (#2) 11. Larry Silverstein got High Insurance on WTC7 Including terrosm insurance. The possibility of a class action lawsuit against the insurance company by shareholders for conspiracy to steal the funds of the insurer. RISU posted on 2006-10-11 09:42:45 ET Reply Trace 5. To: Badeye (#2) This guy is also spamming FR with this nonsense. dirtboy posted on 2006-10-11 09:51:14 ET Reply Trace 6. To: dirtboy, Goldi-Lox (#5) This guy is also spamming FR with this nonsense. This thread should be deleted, and the poster deleted as well. Badeye posted on 2006-10-11 09:51:56 ET Reply Trace 7. To: Badeye, all (#6) This thread should be deleted, and the poster deleted as well. Why? YOu may not like or agree with what he's saying, but he's saying what many people believe - such as myself, to some extent. Don't you support freedom of speech? mehitable posted on 2006-10-11 09:54:16 ET Reply Trace 8. To: Badeye (#6) Why delete it? Everyone needs to know and remember who these nuts are so they can associate the rest of their posts as being from a lower form of intelligent life. Once someone says something like "All the NASA pictures were set up in a Hollywood studio" it just kinda shows the importance of their opinion in all other areas. It is A Republic posted on 2006-10-11 10:04:47 ET Reply Trace 9. To: It is A Republic (#8) Why delete it? Abuse of Breaking News, and the fact this poster is apparently spamming multiple political forums with this nonsense. Badeye posted on 2006-10-11 10:07:03 ET Reply Trace 10. To: Badeye (#6) This thread should be deleted, and the poster deleted as well. Why don't you take your anti-free speech attitude back to FR where you can post pictures of kitties and lightning bolts? Fascists like you would be more comfortable at a place where views are censored. Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:10:42 ET Reply Trace 11. To: Bill D Berger (#10) Why don't you take your anti-free speech attitude back to FR where you can post pictures of kitties and lightning bolts? Fascists like you would be more comfortable at a place where views are censored. Yes, we all know how you find free speech unacceptable in those that don't blindly follow you into insanity, BDB. I'll stay right here, sorry. Badeye posted on 2006-10-11 10:15:10 ET Reply Trace 12. To: Badeye (#11) Yes, we all know how you find free speech unacceptable... I'm not the one calling for the post to be deleted and for this poster to be banned, Adolph. Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:19:14 ET Reply Trace 13. To: Bill D Berger (#12) I'm not the one calling for the post to be deleted and for this poster to be banned, Adolph. Of course not, you aren't sane. Badeye posted on 2006-10-11 10:20:16 ET Reply Trace 14. To: Badeye (#13) Of course not, you aren't sane. Your definition of sanity is calling for a poster to be banned because you don't like what he has to say? You are a fascist neocon pig-dog. And an idiot. Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:25:08 ET Reply Trace 15. To: Badeye (#13) BE - you're the one asking to delete the post and the poster, not Bill. Also, I can understand that you can't buy the whole story. I don't know if these buildings were dynamited and all that. However, I can certainly believe that elements in this administration could certainly be capable of allowing such an event to happen, or even helping it to happen in certain ways (such as the war games taking place that day), in order to accomplish what they considered to be a more important goal. Establishing a false cause of war has happened many times in the past, including in our own country. I don't understand how you can have such a naive belief in government that you don't think such things are even possible. mehitable posted on 2006-10-11 10:26:51 ET Reply Trace 16. To: Bill D Berger (#14) Your definition of sanity is calling for a poster to be banned because you don't like what he has to say? Reading comprehension still hasn't improved, eh wacko? It doesn't meet the criteria of 'breaking news'. The poster is spamming various political forums with this nonsense. As usual, you can't seem to deal with real facts. Now, tell us again cell phones didn't work on airliners in September of 2001.... (chuckle) Badeye posted on 2006-10-11 10:27:44 ET Reply Trace 17. To: dirtboy (#5) This guy is also spamming FR... Good for him... ...with this nonsense. You are clearly drinking too much of the neo-con kool-aid. Do some research, grow a brain, and come back when you have something intelligent to add. Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:28:05 ET Reply Trace 18. To: mehitable (#15) BE - you're the one asking to delete the post and the poster, not Bill. Yep. Duh. Badeye posted on 2006-10-11 10:28:07 ET Reply Trace 19. To: Badeye (#9) Why delete it? Abuse of Breaking News, Oh, the http://irony...coming from the King of breaking news abuse. What a joke you are. Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:29:17 ET Reply Trace 20. To: Bill D Berger (#19) Why delete it? Abuse of Breaking News, Oh, the http://irony...coming from the King of breaking news abuse. What a joke you are. Amusing you don't dispute it....nor do you bother to address the fact this 'newbie' is spamming multiple political forums with this. Wise choice, since there is no valid defense. Badeye posted on 2006-10-11 10:30:27 ET Reply Trace 21. To: Badeye (#16) It doesn't meet the criteria of 'breaking news'. Let's talk about your legendary abuse of the "breaking news" category, shall we? How many "time outs" have you received for that? Or would you rather not "go there"? Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:31:48 ET Reply Trace 22. To: Bill D Berger (#21) Let's talk about your legendary abuse of the "breaking news" category, shall we? How many "time outs" have you received for that? Or would you rather not "go there"? Knock yourself out. Its worth noting nothing I have ever posted in the forum was based on insanity. You can't say the same. Badeye posted on 2006-10-11 10:33:44 ET Reply Trace 23. To: Badeye (#20) Amusing you don't dispute it... No. I don't dispute that you are a hypocrite. People who live in glass houses... Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:33:44 ET Reply Trace 24. To: Badeye (#20) .nor do you bother to address the fact this 'newbie' is spamming multiple political forums with this. So frigging what? You just don't agree with what he has to say, so you want to see him banned. Maybe you'd feel more at home with some pictures of kitties and lightning bolts. Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:35:26 ET Reply Trace 25. To: Bill D Berger (#10) Why don't you take your anti-free speech attitude back to FR where you can post pictures of kitties and lightning bolts? indeed but is this a legitimate viewpoint? more like psychotic babbling every now and then it just be ignored but if it becomes the tone it can ruin a site obnoxious kitties and smarmy lightning bolts notwithstanding freerepublicwardaddy posted on 2006-10-11 10:42:36 ET Reply Trace 26. To: Bill D Berger, Badey (#21) "Let's talk about your legendary abuse of the "breaking news" category, shall we? How many "time outs" have you received for that?" ====================================== (chuckle) Happy2BMe-OnLP posted on 2006-10-11 10:43:44 ET Reply Trace 27. To: Badeye (#22) Its worth noting nothing I have ever posted in the forum was based on insanity. Bwahaha! You are a real hoot, Badlie. Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:48:59 ET Reply Trace 28. To: Badeye (#9) pick your battles and use your time better ........ there were a few "you're a kook" posts and the rest are just arguing about arguing. This POS would have died on its own because there is nothing here to keep it alive on its own ....... there will always be those loons that think the holocaust never happened, that man never landed on the moon, and all sorts kookville theories that they cling to regardless of the evidence against them ........ in other words IMO you can't win a battle over nothing .... besides that these threads keep those loons busy with each other and maybe off the other threads ....... kind of like some of the other sites keep a few really goofy loons busy over there and out of here .......... It is A Republic posted on 2006-10-11 10:49:34 ET Reply Trace 29. To: It is A Republic (#28) there will always be those loons that think the holocaust never happened, that man never landed on the moon... Yet, neither of these "strawmen" was even addressed in this post. Why don't you and Badlie get together and beer-bong some more of that goovernment kool-aid, loser? Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 10:52:10 ET Reply Trace 30. To: freerepublicwardaddy (#25) indeed but is this a legitimate viewpoint? Yes, of course it is. Causes for war have been invented by many governments over the century, including ours in the past. The suspicion that certain individuals within the Bush admin may have allowed this to happen so they could get the war they wanted for years, and from which they've made untold billions of dollars, is something that increasing numbers of people are considering. To not consider this as a possibility is to be really naive about how government actually operates, and how evil some people, even in our country, truly are. It comes down to belief. Do you believe that there are people within our government who are evil enough to allow, or create a 9/11 to take advantage of it, monetarily and/or politically? Of course - this is only common sense. Now, I'm not saying that I buy the whole package, such as the buildings being dynamited, but I simply don't have the technical background to judge that. I do however, definitely buy the basic concept, and there are many questions about 9/11 I find extremely disturbing, such as the "coincidence" of the war games being held that day, and the trading on airline stocks in the days or weeks just before 9/11. That would indicate foreknowledge of an event by some elites. I find the basic concept totally believable and I am astounded that there are many who are still so naive that they cannot. mehitable posted on 2006-10-11 10:58:25 ET Reply Trace 31. To: Bill D Berger (#29) Thanks for signing up for the loon list Mr. Berger, but you have previously tried to sign up numerous times. While your enthusiasm is appreciated, it is un-necessary. One spot on the loon list is all that is allowed, regardless of how looney you really are. Strengthen your tin foil hat as the sky may fall today. It is A Republic posted on 2006-10-11 11:17:15 ET Reply Trace 32. To: It is A Republic (#31) Strengthen your tin foil hat... Keep believing the official 9/11 fairy tale...the gooberment never lies. Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 11:20:09 ET Reply Trace 33. To: Bill D Berger (#19) Thanks to your kind my pharamceutical stocks are doing great !!! Although, you'd probably help yourself if you actually TOOK the prescribed meds instead of sitting them on the shelf, wrapped in tinfoil for fear Karl Rove is listening to you through them. DAnconia55 posted on 2006-10-11 11:30:03 ET Reply Trace 34. To: It is A Republic (#28) that man never landed on the moon We had one of those here. (He may still be here under a different name).... As you can imagine it wasn't the only kookery he believed in. DAnconia55 posted on 2006-10-11 11:31:46 ET Reply Trace 35. To: DAnconia55 (#33) Thanks to your kind my pharamceutical stocks are doing great !!! You must have me confused with someone who uses prescription drugs. That's an easy mistake for a retarded sixteen-year old to make, so I won't hold that against you. However, you should really be raking in the dough when Bush's "New Freedom Initiative" goes into effect. Bill D Berger posted on 2006-10-11 11:37:48 ET Reply Trace 36. To: Bill D Berger (#35) Bill D ROSWELL Berger byeltsin posted on 2006-10-11 11:38:59 ET Reply Trace 37. To: Bill D Berger (#35) you should really be raking in the dough when Bush's "New Freedom Initiative" goes into effect. Me thanks the worthless Bill Clinton everyday for giving me the opportunity to make a bundle with his scattering of the proceeds of government theft to the unwashed masses. It is A Republic posted on 2006-10-11 11:44:32 ET Reply Trace 38. To: sleepy2k16 (#0) More info goto http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html Beyond Pluto dude, fire up another phattie. r-u-n-n o-f-t posted on 2006-10-11 12:22:32 ET (2 images) Reply Trace 39. To: Bill D Berger (#17) Do some research, grow a brain, and come back when you have something intelligent to add. National Geographic ran a show on crop circles a few months back. The true believers that such are caused by aliens called the skeptics the same kind of names, despite tremendous evidence that the circles are man-made. They even were known to attack the debunkers and those making the fake circles. I guess the same applies to the the 9-11 true believers. Us skeptics are all uniformed kool-aid drinking idiots for being so stupid as to believe rigorous scientific analysis over the moving target conjecture that typifies your crusade (come up with another new formulation for thermite yet)? So spew all the insults you want. I guess it's how the true believers always act towards those perceived as heretics. dirtboy posted on 2006-10-11 14:12:44 ET Reply Trace 40. To: dirtboy (#39) The true believers that such are caused by aliens called the skeptics the same kind of names, despite tremendous evidence that the circles are man-made. Nice strawman...you get a gold star for your disinformation abilities. Doubleplusgood, comrade. 41. To: sleepy2k16 (#0) This post may not last, Why not? LOL Just more Conspiracy Wetdreams from the dumbutts. Why don't you post under your dumb4um handle? Embarassed? yukon posted on 2006-10-11 14:19:00 ET Reply Trace 42. To: sleepy2k16, All (#0) Was the recent North Korean nuke test a faked incident by the US? A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-11   14:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: A K A Stone (#4) Was the recent North Korean nuke test a faked incident by the US? I am an "angry white guy," but I am not insane (yet). I like to avoid sites where legitimate (IMO) anger can not be expressed. Unfortunately, though, there are very few "angry sites" that are simply angry over realities: Most are filled with posts from people who have lost their minds and are obsessed with secret conspiracies. I have so little patience with this that I find it too tedious to sort out what people are themselves advancing from what they are merely quoting. I do not want to read deeply into lengthy posts about idiotic notions. Stoney, Baby!....are YOU suggesting that U.S. faked the NK test? Or are you merely referencing the opion of another? Thank you. Bastien-Thiry  posted on  2006-10-11   14:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Bastien-Thiry (#5) Stoney, Baby!....are YOU suggesting that U.S. faked the NK test? Or are you merely referencing the opion of another? Thank you. I don't think that we faked any North Korea Tests. I just posted what others said over at LP. Part of my point was that these people won't address the questions that the person brought up in the article above. They just say stuff like....Yeah we never went to the moon....or..Something about the tooth fairy....or...What someone said about North Korea. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-11   14:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: A K A Stone (#4) Was the recent North Korean nuke test a faked incident by the US? no it was kim trying to get the foley matter off the front page and defense of the usa back on track so republicans can win in november by a landslide... It was the brainchild of karl Rove? :>) Al Jazeera - Fox News Channel - correspondent - Steve Centanni TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-11   14:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: All (#7) http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/binladen_10-29-04.html October 29, 2004, 5:10pm EDT BIN LADEN ADMITS 9/11 RESPONSIBILITY, WARNS OF MORE ATTACKS A tape aired by Al-Jazeera television Friday showed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden admitting for the first time that he orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and saying the United States could face more. Al Jazeera - Fox News Channel - correspondent - Steve Centanni TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-11   15:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: All (#8) more In the 18-minute tape, bin Laden, who appeared to be sitting or standing at a table against a neutral background, said: "Despite entering the fourth year after Sept. 11, Bush is still deceiving you and hiding the truth from you and therefore the reasons are still there to repeat what happened." Bin Laden said he thought of the method of attacking U.S. skyscrapers when he saw Israeli aircraft bombing tower blocks in Lebanon in 1982. "We decided to destroy towers in America," he said. "God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind." Although there was no way to authenticate the tape or say when it was made, it referenced the upcoming presidential election. "Your security is not in the hands of (Democratic candidate John) Kerry or Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands," bin Laden said, according to the Associated Press. "To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster. I tell you: Security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security. "If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. It is known that those who hate freedom do not have dignified souls, like those of the 19 blessed ones," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers. "We fought you because we are free ... and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security, we undermine yours." Al Jazeera - Fox News Channel - correspondent - Steve Centanni TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-11   15:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: All (#9) more An editor at Al-Jazeera said the network received the tape Friday but did not say how, Reuters reported. In September 2003, Al-Jazeera aired a tape of bin Laden with his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri in which he mentions five Sept. 11 hijackers by name. Al Jazeera - Fox News Channel - correspondent - Steve Centanni TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-11   15:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: TLBSHOW (#8) BIN LADEN ADMITS 9/11 RESPONSIBILITY, WARNS OF MORE ATTACKS Oh you are talking about the fake Bin Laden tape that they just happened to find in a large city. Look at his face in the "confession" video and other bin laden videos. You can clearly see it is a different person. Not to mention his decades old ties to the Bush Crime family. And also this..... The tape bore a label indicating it was made on November 9. Administration officials wouldn't reveal exactly how or when they got it, except to say it was found in a house in Jalalabad after anti-Taliban forces moved in. [Online NewsHour] The videotape was supposedly physically located. The size of a standard VHS videotape is 7.5 inches wide by 4.2 inches deep by 1 inch high - if you look in a video cabinet you'll see they're not very big. The satellite photograph on the right shows Jalalabad - it is very big and it contains a lot of buildings (not all single storey). Don't you find it somewhat fortuitous that a very small video tape of Osama confessing to the 9/11 attacks was found in this very big city? Were squads of video watchers sent in to view every tape found just in case one showed Osama confessing? Here's what was said of the "lucky find": Satellite photo of Jalalabad. Population ~150,000 Click for full sized image "For those who see this tape, they'll realise that not only is he guilty of incredible murder, he has no conscience and no soul, that he represents the worst of civilisation," said President George W Bush. US Senator Ron Wyden, who has also seen the tape, says he hopes it will remove suspicions in countries such as Pakistan that the 11 September attacks were an Israeli plot aimed at drawing the US into a war with Islamic countries. [BBC News] The video was very effective in diverting media attention away from the deportation of five Israelis who danced as the twin towers burned - "Osama" certainly picks his moments to appear. Details of the videotape - includes full video and transcript. A German TV show found that the White House's translation of the video was inaccurate and "manipulative". Bin Laden even praised two live 'hijackers' - Wail M. Alshehri and Salem Alhazmi. Why didn't he know the names of hijackers he personally chose? The quality of the video was very poor and the authenticity of the tape was questioned. This annoyed President Bush: "It is preposterous for anybody to think that this tape is doctored," he said during a brief photo opportunity with the prime minister of Thailand. "That's just a feeble excuse to provide weak support for an incredibly evil man." [CNN] To be perfectly honest it is preposterous to suggest this videotape could be authentic, but lets have a look at it anyway. Here's 5 Osamas - which is the odd one out? Even Mr Magoo would have to say that Osama 'E' stands out like a sore thumb, and this is the man confessing on the "lucky find" tape. Between the nose and the cheeks it is clear that this man is NOT Osama. In the video Osama 'E' appears to write notes with his right hand, yet the FBI's description of Osama indicates he is left-handed. Osama 'E' wears a ring on his right hand which does not appear on other confirmed photos of Osama (e.g. Osama 'B'). Another man is seen wearing a large gold ring in the video. Since the wearing of gold rings is forbidden by Islam it shows neither he nor Osama 'E' has any devotion to this faith. On December 27, 2001, a second video containing the pale skinned and very real Osama 'C' was broadcast on al Jazeera. The "Gaunt Tape," so named because bin Laden is haggard and doesn't move his left arm, is believed to have been recorded around Nov. 19, 2001. In the tape, bin Laden refers to the U.S. bombing of a mosque in Khost "several days" earlier. The U.S. bombed a mosque in Khost on Nov. 16. Bin Laden does not move his left arm and his appearance is both gaunt and pale. [MSNBC] So, this tape was made around ten days after the "lucky find" tape was reportedly made. Are we to believe that Osama's skin, hair and beard changed color in ten days? The broadcast of the tape caught the US government completely off-guard: The recording was dismissed by the Bush administration ... as sick propaganda possibly designed to mask the fact the al-Qa'eda leader was already dead. "He could have made the video and then ordered that it be released in the event of his death," said one White House aide. [Telegraph] This was a very telling response. Also, his comments caused quite a stir because because they contradicted the "confession" video: American officials argued that bin Laden's frequent references to US support for Israel were a bogus justification for his terrorism because in the "dinner party" tape of a private conversation there was no mention of the Middle East. [Telegraph] This is very odd indeed because in bin Laden's September 28, 2001 denial of involvement in the 9/11 attacks he had plenty to say about the US and Israel: This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is clear that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the U.S. is not uttering a single word. [Public Action] And his views were the same in 1998: "We say to the Americans as people and to American mothers, if they cherish their lives and if they cherish their sons, they must elect an American patriotic government that caters to their interests, not the interests of the Jews." [American Free Press] Not only do the real Osama and the "lucky find" Osama look totally different, they also write with different hands and have different faiths and priorities. It does not get any more obvious than this. There is clearly good reason to doubt the November 9 tape. There is excessive noise on the audio track, making it impossible to really hear what is being said. Given that the tape was recorded in an area supposedly devoid of audio urban signature, there should have been little ambient noise, yet the speech is masked with a great deal of noise. But there are very good reasons to suspect that the tape is not what the US Government claims it to be. In the tape, Osama supposedly states that he knew of the attack on the WTC 5 days in advance, yet we know from the preparations inside the United States that the plan had been in existence for much longer than that. The records of those flight schools where the hijackers supposedly trained have been confiscated under the watchful eye of Jeb Bush, Governor of Florida and brother to the President. Will the Bush administration now claim that the hijackers learned to fly a passenger jet in just 5 days? Likewise, The translation of the Osama tape has him stating that the hijackers did not know they were about to die, yet letters the FBI claim to have found written by the hijackers indicate the exact opposite. Finally, this was not the first video tape claiming to show Osama confessing, and claims made in the earlier "confession" tape, including a claim that Osama had nukes, were created by the translator, not actually stated by Osama. This never-to-be-seen video also appeared right on cue: Emergency powers to imprison suspected international terrorists indefinitely using special closed courts will be announced this week. The measure, which will require exemption from human rights legislation, will be used to round up about 20 suspects hiding in Britain beyond the reach of existing laws. [Telegraph 11/11/2001] Even hard line secular Pakistanis were unconvinced by the released bin Laden video tape. Iqbal Haider, a former senator from the party of ousted prime minister Benazir Bhutto, said he found it hard to believe that bin Laden would allow himself to be filmed confessing to the crime. "It is hard to believe that a man who masterminds the September attacks with such secrecy and finesse could be that stupid and imprudent," he said. "I hate Osama and the Taliban because they inflicted incalculable damage on Muslims ... but it is hard to digest that he can be such a fool." When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” ... The Muckraker Report attempted to secure a reference to the U.S. government authenticating the Bin Laden “confession video”, to no avail. However, it is conclusive that the Bush Administration and U.S. Congress, along with the dead stream media, played the video as if it was authentic. So why doesn’t the FBI view the “confession video” as hard evidence? [Muckraker Report] A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-11   15:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: all (#11) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqdpAQFQlHQ Clinton admits he was offered bin Laden but refuses Al Jazeera - Fox News Channel - correspondent - Steve Centanni TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-11   15:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: TLBSHOW (#12) I don't doubt that is true either. Bush and Clinton have the same boss. They worked together running drugs back at Mena. You notice Bush Sr and Clinton are buddies now. I think they always were. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-11   15:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: All (#12) http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/30/terror/main652425.shtml Osama's Election Surprise In a tape believed to be authentic, Osama bin Laden warned the U.S. to stop threatening Muslims and said Americans' security "is in their own hands,'' reports Bob Orr. Al Jazeera - Fox News Channel - correspondent - Steve Centanni TLBSHOW  posted on  2006-10-11   15:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: TLBSHOW (#14) Osama's Election Surprise In a tape believed to be authentic, Osama bin Laden warned the U.S. to stop threatening Muslims and said Americans' security "is in their own hands,'' reports Bob Orr. I heard the talking shrub talk about the timing of the Foley story coming to light. I instantly thought about the timing of the Bin Laden tape. I kind of think Bin Laden has been dead since pre 911. He is the new Goldstein. A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-11   15:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: All (#0) UPDATE FROM LIBERTYPOST 43. To: r-u-n-n o-f-t (#38) Free Image Hosting Free Image Hosting Original_Intent posted on 2006-10-11 14:27:38 ET (2 images) Reply Trace 44. To: Original_Intent, sleepy2k16 (#43) yukon posted on 2006-10-11 14:29:33 ET (1 image) Reply Trace 45. To: sleepy2k16 (#0) 15. The "hijackers" said the wrong islamic message when approaching death. Who was 16. Survivors and Eye witnesses Reporting seeing, hearing explosions. WTF? This isn't an article, it's not even complete sentences. B L Z Bubb posted on 2006-10-11 14:32:12 ET Reply Trace 46. To: sleepy2k16, all (#0) 18. Janitor was offered Millions of dallors to shut up and he refused, or so he said. See Video #6 Here is a simple example of why most of us regard such articles as lunacy. 1. The government conspires to kill several thousand citizens so it can go to war and pass measures restricting civil liberties. 2. It is found that a janitor discovered evidence of the crime. 3. The conspirators, instead of putting a bullet in his head, offered him "Millions of dallors to shut up". 4. When the janitor refused the hush money, the conspirators went away, leaving him to tell his story on Prison Planet. And you wonder why people call you "kooks." B L Z Bubb posted on 2006-10-11 14:39:29 ET Reply Trace 47. To: yukon, sleepy2k16, Bill D Berger, all (#44) Free Image Hosting Free Image Hosting Original_Intent posted on 2006-10-11 14:39:52 ET (2 images) Reply Trace 48. To: Original_Intent (#47) 911 Press for Truth An excellent documentary about the families of the victims of 9/11 and their fight to uncover and expose the truth about what happened that ... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5589099104255077250&q=press+for+truth Itisa1mosttoolate posted on 2006-10-11 14:47:12 ET Reply Trace 49. To: sleepy2k16 (#0) BWWWWAHhhhahhhaaaaaaaa Get back on your meds sweety. And....... GET OFF THE INTERNET YOU BIG DOPE!!! channeling Mark Levin Sweetjustusnow posted on 2006-10-11 14:50:46 ET Reply Trace 50. To: B L Z Bubb (#46) Had the NeoCons done this the hijackers would have been Syrian, Iranian, Iraqi or combination thereof. And not the one Arab groups we get along with kinda sorta. WhiteSands posted on 2006-10-11 14:50:56 ET Reply Trace 51. To: mehitable (#7) YOu may not like or agree with what he's saying, but he's saying what many people believe - such as myself, to some extent. Don't you support freedom of speech? Freedom of speech is one thing, but a forum for KOOKS is entirely different. Sweetjustusnow posted on 2006-10-11 14:54:00 ET Reply Trace 52. To: Original_Intent, sleepy2k16, Bill D Berger, Itisa1mosttoolate (#47) yukon posted on 2006-10-11 14:55:10 ET (1 image) Reply Trace 53. To: Sweetjustusnow (#51) Freedom of speech is one thing, but a forum for KOOKS is entirely different. Yeah, but then where would you post? mehitable posted on 2006-10-11 14:55:21 ET Reply Trace 54. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#48) Cool. Thank you. Original_Intent posted on 2006-10-11 14:56:23 ET Reply Trace 55. To: It is A Republic (#8) Why delete it? Everyone needs to know and remember who these nuts are so they can associate the rest of their posts as being from a lower form of intelligent life. Once someone says something like "All the NASA pictures were set up in a Hollywood studio" it just kinda shows the importance of their opinion in all other areas. You have a point, except that, it sure would be nice to have a forum of adults that aren't diverted to having to see KOOK titles and so called storys in Breaking News or in any of the catagories as they are. Maybe Goldi should have a KOOK catagory. Sweetjustusnow posted on 2006-10-11 15:00:04 ET Reply Trace 56. To: Bill D Berger (#10) Why don't you take your anti-free speech attitude back to FR where you can post pictures of kitties and lightning bolts? Fascists like you would be more comfortable at a place where views are censored. How about a page that is spit in two, one side is for the Tin Foil Hat Brigade and the other is for the MAINSTREAM of America. If the two decide to engage each other, they can meet on a differnt page but with the same titles, stories, catagories, and engage each other. I'm sick of the KOOKS and their fantasys. Sweetjustusnow posted on 2006-10-11 15:05:19 ET Reply Trace 57. To: yukon (#52) Free Image Hosting Free Image Hosting Original_Intent posted on 2006-10-11 15:08:01 ET (2 images) Reply Trace 58. To: Sweetjustusnow, Bill D Berger, all (#56) I'm sick of the KOOKS and their fantasys. No, what you are sick of is being forced to look at the realities and the grim truth that you don't get from "Pills" or Faux. I feel your pain. It's much easier to not think and to believe the comforting lies and disinformation. Otherwise you might be forced to take responsibility for what you have supported. Heaven forfend! Free Image Hosting Original_Intent posted on 2006-10-11 15:11:53 ET (1 image) Reply Trace 59. To: Original_Intent (#58) I assume that many of these posters are just paid shills, otherwise I'd feel very sorry for people who have such a blind faith in their government that they're willing to believe damn near anything they're told. Anyone who cannot understand the simple fact that governments frequently deliberately manufacture the causes of wars (and then lie to their people afterwards)is just being willfully stupid. There are so many abundant examples throughout history and even in this country's past. We might argue over whether the buildings were blown up or various aspects of this 9/11 non-governmental conspiracy theory, but to call people kooks for even raising or examining the issue, just means the poster who does so is without credibility himself. mehitable posted on 2006-10-11 15:15:27 ET Reply Trace 60. To: B L Z Bubb (#46) If you would follow along, He said he had to leave the country, Later they did try to kill him. sleepy2k16 posted on 2006-10-11 15:18:02 ET Reply Trace A K A Stone  posted on  2006-10-11   15:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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