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Title: I Hate Black History Month
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Published: Oct 16, 2011
Author: ilovecadaughtry
Post Date: 2011-10-16 17:38:27 by A K A Stone
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Views: 42410
Comments: 62

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#1. To: All (#0)

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-16   17:39:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

ROTFLMAO...Stone, I love the three in your second video, the first was good, but those guys, as silly as they were, I understood completely what they were saying, because the lead dude, he is the image of my g-son, a smart-alecky, thinks he knows it all, in your face, oops, except with g-ma...just an all around likable person, and he thinks of us all as 'just Americans'.

Murron  posted on  2011-10-16   18:16:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Murron, A K A Stone (#2)

I am glad the black guy reminded the badly educated little girl that Jews and Italians and Germans (Ben Franklin called Germans "swarthy") and Italians and Spaniards were not considered "white" at one time or another in this great but flawed country.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-16   21:43:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Godwinson (#4)

To: Murron, A K A Stone (#2)

Godwinson: "I am glad the black guy reminded the badly educated little girl that Jews and Italians and Germans (Ben Franklin called Germans "swarthy") and Italians and Spaniards were not considered "white" at one time or another in this great but flawed country."

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#5. To: Murron (#2)

mcgowanjm: "Can you be an Israeli supporter and Not be racist?"

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#6. To: All (#5)

mcgowanjm: "And I really can't see jesus here at all. Can you?"

They are young and still impressionable, but their characters, their personalities, their curiocity, open mindness and willingness to learn makes these three kids your superiors already. Right now, they only repeat what they have been taught, by openly admitting they are NOT obama supporters shows that they are paying attention. These young men think like anyone else who consider themselves Americans first, they're interested in the achievements of people, not their race.

What could these young men learn from the likes of you two? Manners? Civility? Politeness? Courtesy? I don't think so, I think they could teach the two of you a lot, then again, maybe not, because if you have none of these wonderful qualities now, at your ages, you never will.

mcgowan, if you ever would like to see Jesus someday, you'll have to clean up your act, it's a personal thing between the two of you, something I can't help you with. Good day~

JMHO!

Murron  posted on  2011-10-17   11:07:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Murron, A K A Stone, mcgowanjm (#8)

What could these young men learn from the likes of you two? Manners? Civility? Politeness? Courtesy? I don't think so, I think they could teach the two of you a lot, then again, maybe not, because if you have none of these wonderful qualities now, at your ages, you never will.

What is offensive are people who are Jewish, Eastern European, Souther Europe, Italian or German or of Scott-Irish decent accepting the racial bigotry of a the old Anglo population (which to be fair, not all Anglos accepted or cared much about racial politics) which used that to hurt those people that now are tricked into accepting the old Anglo prejudices but with their "kind" now being included in the "White" race.

For the record, in the USA being "White" was a socio-economic condition as much as it was about race and ethnicity.

For example, to the view of Benjamin Franklin the Germans who settled in Pennsylvania were "swarthy" and he extolled the virtues of the light skin and fair haired Anglo-Saxon people compared to the dark Germans. That is something some modern day people would scratch their heads about because in WW2 we fought against Germans who claimed they were the supreme example of the "white" race.

Read: Ben Franklin on "Stupid, Swarthy Germans"

The other objection that Ben Franklin had to German immigrants was their "swarthy complexion", which was an affront to the "purely white people" who originally settled America:

Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.

The Irish were drawn in old cartoons to look like apes which was a stereotype used against Africans as well. (Read: a href="http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Noel- Ignatiev/dp/0415918251">How the Irish Became White)

So here you have Irish and Germans, in our modern eyes, as white as white can be, considered by the Anglos in America as "swarthy" people.

Racism has twisted reality for this population. That is why a "Black History Month" is actually needed and a good idea as are all those "history months".

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-17   11:29:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Godwinson (#10)

Racism has twisted reality for this population. That is why a "Black History Month" is actually needed and a good idea as are all those "history months".

Lots of interesting stuff there. I'll focus on this.

Should we have a white history month. Or an anglo history month?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-17   11:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#11) (Edited)

Should we have a white history month. Or an anglo history month?

Of COURSE not! That'd be racist!

/S

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-10-17   14:10:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Capitalist Eric, A K A Stone (#28)

"Should we have a white history month. Or an anglo history month?"

"Of COURSE not! That'd be racist!" /S

The approach should be integration into mainstream history education. If separate but equal is wrong in everything else, why the hell would we preserve it in how we teach history?

This racial observance reinforces the segregation it was meant to counteract. We desperately need to stop celebrating separately, stop learning separately, stop being Americans separately. No American who has achieved historical importance, or contributed their talents to this nation should be given an intire month of observance simply because of their race, it's wrong, It is so wrong.

Placing one, or two races, above all other's, then setting aside an intire month to the celebration of their racial achievements does nothing to unite our people, it divides races and places the importance of one above the other simply because of their race.

Kids are not as STUPID as the poverty pimps, Jackson and Shapton, would like to think they are. Kids today know how to look up historic figures and get the race right, without an intire month being put aside for them. JMHO!

Murron  posted on  2011-10-17   15:08:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Murron (#29)

This racial observance reinforces the segregation it was meant to counteract. We desperately need to stop celebrating separately, stop learning separately, stop being Americans separately.

Utopia is for communists. We live in the real world where right wing racists think most of the welfare money goes to blacks (and it ain't even close).

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-17   15:13:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Godwinson (#30) (Edited)

"We live in the real world where right wing racists think most of the welfare money goes to blacks"

We live in the real world where people, all colors, all races, all genders, are born into it are taught, from cradle to grave, that the American taxpaying workers owe them a living, and the next generations they bring into this world also, it's become tradition to teach the children how to get by in this world on freebies and handouts, if the color 'black' comes to mind when you think about these issues, then that's your problem, not mine, walk it off, or contribute something constructive that might help solve our problems, not create more.

And you can take that bleeding heart of yours, and race card, and stick it up your chocolate whiz-wam...it's null and void, you lost the argument the moment you brought out the race card, get some new material, chump, not only is it old, it's not even original, or would you even have an original thought, pisher?

"By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you... blocked & deleted. You may now... ...kiss my ass"

Murron  posted on  2011-10-18   2:11:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Murron, war (#31)

and the next generations they bring into this world also, it's become tradition to teach the children how to get by in this world on freebies and handouts,

So the parents charge the kids a fee for their birth and raising? I mean we are taught right from birth that mom and dad take care of us for nothing but out of pure love.

I mean did your parents charge you for being your parents, Murron? That's sad. How much did mom charge for her milk?

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-18   9:22:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Godwinson (#34)

So the parents charge the kids a fee for their birth and raising? I mean we are taught right from birth that mom and dad take care of us for nothing but out of pure love.

I mean did your parents charge you for being your parents, Murron? That's sad. How much did mom charge for her milk?

Little children.... forced to go out and panhandle for their keep, is the Tea Bagger way.

I think they have adopted the model from Sparta, where everyone competed from the time they are born until their early deaths.

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-18   10:50:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold (#35)

Little children.... forced to go out and panhandle for their keep, is the Tea Bagger way.

The tea party folks have their babies and raise them into responsible adults.

You cultist liberals cut your babies into little pieces and throw them in the trash. The ones that don't get cut up are taught what Murron mentioned.

You give your kids chores to learn and teach them to work for something.

I have two teenagers who have jobs. They work. I know and see other deadbeats in their thirties who are capable of working but would rather sit on their ass and collect welfare. Their parents were democrats. They weren't raised right.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-18   10:54:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#36) (Edited)

The tea party folks have their babies and raise them into responsible adults.

Really? I'd liked to see those stats. Most Tea Baggers at least in my area are old fogeys, either with no kids or grown kids. I also notice the Ron Paul folks here are staying as far away from them as possible.

About your obsessive borderline need to know every personal detail about fellow posters, you need to discuss that with your shrink.

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-18   11:04:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mininggold (#38)

About your obsessive borderline need to know every personal detail about fellow posters, you need to discuss that with your shrink.

Yep you had at least one. No one would be ashamed to say never.

You brought this on yourself when you brought kids into the picture. I just pointed out what you unAmericans say is a right. You are afraid to admit you exercised one of your "make believe" rights that you created.

So deep down liberals really are ashamed to admit they had abortions?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-18   11:07:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#40)

Yep you had at least one. No one would be ashamed to say never.

You brought this on yourself when you brought kids into the picture. I just pointed out what you unAmericans say is a right. You are afraid to admit you exercised one of your "make believe" rights that you created.

So deep down liberals really are ashamed to admit they had abortions?

I never play into the fantasies of the mentally ill.

As usual you distort your rationale, did I touch a nerve?

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-18   11:23:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: mininggold (#47)

I never play into the fantasies of the mentally ill.

As usual you distort your rationale, did I touch a nerve?

I'm just drawing conclusions based on my observations of what you say.

For example if you said that you never had an abortion and would never have one.

I would have accepted that answer.

But you didn't say that.

So that makes me believe (I'm not 100 percent certain) that you have exercised what you believe to be a constitutional right.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-18   11:27:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#52. To: A K A Stone (#50)

I'm just drawing conclusions based on my observations of what you say.

For example if you said that you never had an abortion and would never have one.

I would have accepted that answer.

For one, you have a long history of drawing wrong conclusions and two, that would be playing into your mental illness, which I would NEVER intentionally do.

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-18 11:31:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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