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Title: I Hate Black History Month
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Published: Oct 16, 2011
Author: ilovecadaughtry
Post Date: 2011-10-16 17:38:27 by A K A Stone
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A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-16   17:39:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

ROTFLMAO...Stone, I love the three in your second video, the first was good, but those guys, as silly as they were, I understood completely what they were saying, because the lead dude, he is the image of my g-son, a smart-alecky, thinks he knows it all, in your face, oops, except with g-ma...just an all around likable person, and he thinks of us all as 'just Americans'.

Murron  posted on  2011-10-16   18:16:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Murron, A K A Stone (#2)

I am glad the black guy reminded the badly educated little girl that Jews and Italians and Germans (Ben Franklin called Germans "swarthy") and Italians and Spaniards were not considered "white" at one time or another in this great but flawed country.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-16   21:43:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Godwinson (#4)

To: Murron, A K A Stone (#2)

Godwinson: "I am glad the black guy reminded the badly educated little girl that Jews and Italians and Germans (Ben Franklin called Germans "swarthy") and Italians and Spaniards were not considered "white" at one time or another in this great but flawed country."

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#5. To: Murron (#2)

mcgowanjm: "Can you be an Israeli supporter and Not be racist?"

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#6. To: All (#5)

mcgowanjm: "And I really can't see jesus here at all. Can you?"

They are young and still impressionable, but their characters, their personalities, their curiocity, open mindness and willingness to learn makes these three kids your superiors already. Right now, they only repeat what they have been taught, by openly admitting they are NOT obama supporters shows that they are paying attention. These young men think like anyone else who consider themselves Americans first, they're interested in the achievements of people, not their race.

What could these young men learn from the likes of you two? Manners? Civility? Politeness? Courtesy? I don't think so, I think they could teach the two of you a lot, then again, maybe not, because if you have none of these wonderful qualities now, at your ages, you never will.

mcgowan, if you ever would like to see Jesus someday, you'll have to clean up your act, it's a personal thing between the two of you, something I can't help you with. Good day~

JMHO!

Murron  posted on  2011-10-17   11:07:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Murron, A K A Stone, mcgowanjm (#8)

What could these young men learn from the likes of you two? Manners? Civility? Politeness? Courtesy? I don't think so, I think they could teach the two of you a lot, then again, maybe not, because if you have none of these wonderful qualities now, at your ages, you never will.

What is offensive are people who are Jewish, Eastern European, Souther Europe, Italian or German or of Scott-Irish decent accepting the racial bigotry of a the old Anglo population (which to be fair, not all Anglos accepted or cared much about racial politics) which used that to hurt those people that now are tricked into accepting the old Anglo prejudices but with their "kind" now being included in the "White" race.

For the record, in the USA being "White" was a socio-economic condition as much as it was about race and ethnicity.

For example, to the view of Benjamin Franklin the Germans who settled in Pennsylvania were "swarthy" and he extolled the virtues of the light skin and fair haired Anglo-Saxon people compared to the dark Germans. That is something some modern day people would scratch their heads about because in WW2 we fought against Germans who claimed they were the supreme example of the "white" race.

Read: Ben Franklin on "Stupid, Swarthy Germans"

The other objection that Ben Franklin had to German immigrants was their "swarthy complexion", which was an affront to the "purely white people" who originally settled America:

Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.

The Irish were drawn in old cartoons to look like apes which was a stereotype used against Africans as well. (Read: a href="http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Noel- Ignatiev/dp/0415918251">How the Irish Became White)

So here you have Irish and Germans, in our modern eyes, as white as white can be, considered by the Anglos in America as "swarthy" people.

Racism has twisted reality for this population. That is why a "Black History Month" is actually needed and a good idea as are all those "history months".

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-17   11:29:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Godwinson (#10)

Racism has twisted reality for this population. That is why a "Black History Month" is actually needed and a good idea as are all those "history months".

Lots of interesting stuff there. I'll focus on this.

Should we have a white history month. Or an anglo history month?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-17   11:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11) (Edited)

Should we have a white history month. Or an anglo history month?

No, because the purpose of the history month is to explain to the racialist Anglo-douches (a shrinking population one hopes) in the first place that the racist policies they inflicted on the nation were wrong.

Minorities never denied the dominant Anglos their human dignities which now requires a redress.

I would be for a holiday to honor those Americans that fought for Civil Rights, be they white abolitionists or black freedom riders in the 60s or women and gay rights advocates. Maybe on the day of the Emancipation Proclamation was announced (September 22)?

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-17   11:35:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Godwinson (#12)

Minorities never denied the dominant Anglos their human dignities which now requires a redress.

Sure you have. You sit on your ass and collect welfare and food stamps and don't work. Whitey is feeding you. Probably paying for your electric too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-17   11:43:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#14) (Edited)

Sure you have. You sit on your ass and collect welfare and food stamps and don't work. Whitey is feeding you. Probably paying for your electric too.

More whites than minorities get welfare. Both in total numbers and in actual dollars.

61% of the population receiving welfare, listed as "means-tested cash assistance" by the Census Bureau, is identified as white, while only 33% is identified as black.

Your comment proves to me that small govt ideology of the right wing racists is really code for no money to blacks. It has always been thus.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-17   11:46:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Godwinson (#16)

More whites than minorities get welfare. Both in total numbers and in actual dollars.

There are more whites then blacks. So of course there would likely be more receiving government money.

What about per capita?

Why does it really matter anyways. Aren't we supposed to be judged by the "content of our character" and not our skin color.

My comment was no code word. My comment was directed at you specifically.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-17   11:49:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited)

What about per capita?

Per capita is meaningless because if we deported every single black person on welfare we only made a 30% dent in welfare.

Welfare was invented to help poor whites because there were millions of whites living in shit in the 1960s and we were fighting a Cold War against an ideology that was championing the poor people. There was a real fear that Appalachia could be the home of a new Marxist insurgency or that it made America's claims for its ideology seem weak when so many Americans (i.e. whites) were living in huts without even electricity or plumbing.

Typical poor white shit hole from the 1960s that welfare helped out.

How can America build villages with modern amenities in Vietnam while whole swaths of Americans lived as poorly as Asian rice farmers?

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-17   11:55:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Godwinson (#21)

Per capita is meaningless because if we deported every single black person on welfare we only made a 30% dent in welfare.

Who said anything about deporting black people?

Cut their taxes and give them opportunity. Taxes should only be 10 percent for any person.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-17   12:05:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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