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Title: Romney's Rise Challenges Tea Party's Clout In GOP
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic ... /10/15/national/w061539D99.DTL
Published: Oct 15, 2011
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2011-10-15 12:55:58 by Brian S
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Comments: 14

Mitt Romney's early success in the Republican presidential race is challenging the tea party's clout. Will it continue to pull the GOP sharply right? Will it slowly fade? Or merge with mainstream Republican elements in a nod to pragmatism, something it's hardly known for?

On the surface, Romney's strength seems at odds with the tea party's fiery success in ousting Republicans seen as compromisers, and in making the House GOP caucus more ideological, even when its leaders plead for flexibility.

Romney defends the government's 2008 bank bailouts, plus the mandated health insurance he initiated as Massachusetts governor. He says he can work with "good Democrats." Although he later changed, Romney once supported abortion rights, gun control and gay rights.

These positions run counter to the beliefs and goals of many tea party activists scattered throughout the country. Yet Romney is faring better in polls, fundraising and debates than are contenders with stronger tea party credentials, including Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry.

Several Republican strategists, and even some tea party leaders, say they aren't surprised or alarmed. Their overarching goal is to defeat President Barack Obama next year, they say, and if Romney is best-positioned to do that, they'll endure his shortcomings.

"The perception that tea partyers are ideological purists is wrong," said Sal Russo, a long-time Republican strategist in California and a leader of the Tea Party Express. "We are a broad-based movement," he said, "and we are looking to win in 2012."

Danny Diaz, a Washington-based Republican strategist unaligned with any presidential candidates, agrees.

"The tea party movement is an anti-Washington movement," he said. While Perry and Herman Cain might make a more dynamic claim to that mantle, he said, Romney has never lived in Washington, and tea party activists won't rule him out.

"Many of them are pragmatists," Diaz said. They desperately want to oust Obama, he said, and "they need a candidate that's electable."

A CBS-New York Times poll found that tea partyers are more satisfied with the GOP presidential field than are Republicans in general. Cain was the top choice among tea party activists, with Romney second.

Some campaign veterans see bigger problems ahead for Romney.

Polls of Republicans show Romney holding steady at about 25 percent, while Bachmann, Perry and Cain take turns making surges. "That tells me that 75 percent of the primary voters would really rather have someone else," said GOP lobbyist and consultant Mike McKenna.

Many tea party activists have little or no loyalty to the Republican Party, and McKenna predicts big problems next year if they feel their conservative values were sacrificed for political expediency. "Romney would cause enormous numbers of tea party-type voters to simply not show on game day," he said.

The chief question, he said, "is whether one candidate will be able to aggregate the anti-Romney Republicans before it is too late." Perry seems the likeliest choice, McKenna said, "but the clock is ticking."

Jenny Beth Martin of Atlanta, who is active with Tea Party Patriots, said several groups are having informal talks about whether they should try to coalesce behind an alternative to Romney. Tea partyers cherish their independence, she said, and "over the next eight to 10 weeks, it'll be interesting to see how it all shapes up."

Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh repeatedly criticized Romney on his radio show last week. "Romney is not a conservative," he said. "The Republican base doesn't want Romney."

For now, Romney seems willing to run some risks, hoping to attract independent voters who will be crucial in the 2012 general election.

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#1. To: LF (#0)

"The tea party movement is an anti-Washington movement," he said. While Perry and Herman Cain might make a more dynamic claim to that mantle, he said, Romney has never lived in Washington, and tea party activists won't rule him out.

"Many of them are pragmatists," Diaz said. They desperately want to oust Obama, he said, and "they need a candidate that's electable."

The last sentence reveals the conundrum ALL sane Americans will face. Most WILL be pragmatic upon contemplating an 0bama/Holder Regime from 2013-2017. The consensus if that happens is a bloody CWII, riots, anarchy, and suspension of the constitution in the US during those years, but also probably ratcheted-up instability throughout the world, and perhaps even an Armageddon or two of sorts. 0bama is doing Satan's work.

The truth of the matter is the entire primary field of Republicans can beat 0bama - and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE. But the RNC elites know they can now run the most liberal Republican puppet in history and get away with it.

Now for all of you insisting that there is no difference between 0bama and Romney, there most certainly is...

Though Romney IS a liberal, he's NO Commie, NO Muslim, NO racist, NO America-Hater, NO parasite, NO, Destroyer of American Business, NO ignoramus, NO Anarchist.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-15   13:53:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Liberator (#1)

The last sentence reveals the conundrum ALL sane Americans will face. Most WILL be pragmatic upon contemplating an 0bama/Holder Regime from 2013-2017. The consensus if that happens is a bloody CWII, riots, anarchy, and suspension of the constitution in the US during those years, but also probably ratcheted-up instability throughout the world, and perhaps even an Armageddon or two of sorts. 0bama is doing Satan's work.

That's what it is going to take.

Have you considered - since the FDR Administration at least - the constant of the US moving ever leftward? Oh the speeds vary - from fast (FDR,LBJ,W Bush,Obama) to slow (Eisenhower perhaps, Reagan certainly) - but the DIRECTION never changes.

It's all a game - and while I'll make the pretense of voting (for some minor 3rd party candidate) - I'm not voting for someone simply because they're less statist/evil.

Obama and his merry band of Marxists have done what their puppet masters wanted - they've imposed Obama-care on us. It's not going to go away (Romney will supposedly issue executive orders for states to "opt-out", but states like NY and California will "opt-in". Then what? And the Marxists aren't going to just "lie-down", anyway.

If they can find a way to bend the "living, breathing Constitution" to impose it in the first place, they will find a way to keep it.

The Oba-marxists have been the "special forces" - the "shock troops" if you will. They have taken ground behind the so-called lines. Now they are expendible.

This is where the so-called republicans (statists with a smiley-face) come in to solidify the gains.

Fifty years of NEA approved indoctrination in the public schools has done the trick. The last remnants of anyone who values American History and the Constitution can be seen in the Tea Party. We're old, and dying out.

The OWS freaks are the future. And the future is anarchy and chaos.

Might as well bring it on sooner rather than later.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-10-17   8:34:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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That's what it is going to take.

Have you considered - since the FDR Administration at least - the constant of the US moving ever leftward? Oh the speeds vary - from fast (FDR,LBJ,W Bush,Obama) to slow (Eisenhower perhaps, Reagan certainly) - but the DIRECTION never changes.

The Oba-marxists have been the "special forces" - the "shock troops" if you will. They have taken ground behind the so-called lines. Now they are expendible.

Fifty years of NEA approved indoctrination in the public schools has done the trick. The last remnants of anyone who values American History and the Constitution can be seen in the Tea Party. We're old, and dying out.

The OWS freaks are the future. And the future is anarchy and chaos.

Great post Dodge. You're on target 95% with your assessment.

Might as well bring it on sooner rather than later.

Here's where I disagree; Under Republicanism (even under Romney), rabid statism slows down, giving constitutionalists and conservatives at least a chance to infiltrate the machine and hopefully reverse direction. I realize it's a long shot, but there's NO way this happens under a continued 0bama regime.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-17   10:58:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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I realize it's a long shot, but there's NO way this happens under a continued 0bama regime.

It's not going to happen under a Romney regime, either.

To restore any semblance of a Constitutional Republic via the ballot box would take (IMHO) a mega-billionaire to run for POTUS. One who's love of country and patriotism was not questioned.

The best shot we had at that scenario was Ross Perot in '92. I don't have time to go back and look up all the stats, but if memory serves he was actually polling better than GHWB for a while.

Then - he mysteriously flipped out. I've always believed it was because his family was threatened.

No, things are right on track as far as the puppetmasters are concerned. And they're not going to let a little thing like an election (or another billionaire) get in the way.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-10-17   12:11:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#9. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#7)

It's not going to happen under a Romney regime, either.

Slowing down the rate of Commie-takeover? Rampant statism and intrusion?

I disagree respectfully.

The best scenario now is to steal TIME. The GOP candidate - no matter who it is - provides it. The conservatives within that governance provides our best opportunity to regain equilibrium. Might not be a great shot, but it's our ONLY shot.

The best shot we had at that scenario was Ross Perot in '92. I don't have time to go back and look up all the stats, but if memory serves he was actually polling better than GHWB for a while....Then - he mysteriously flipped out. I've always believed it was because his family was threatened.

I agree in both cases, but it's 20 years later. NOT happening right now. Our back is against the wall - we can NOT give 0bama, Holder, Nappy, and a bunch of other Commies and Nazis another four years to turn this nation into Uganda.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-18 12:52:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#7)

The best shot we had at that scenario was Ross Perot in '92.

I voted Perot in 92. My second presidential vote. First one was for .....Bush.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-18 13:19:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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