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Title: SUICIDE OF A SUPERPOWER. by Patrick J. Buchanan
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Published: Oct 14, 2011
Author: Patrick J. Buchanan
Post Date: 2011-10-14 09:08:42 by A K A Stone
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BOOK WARNS OF END Fri Oct 14 2011 07:00:25 ET **Exclusive** "As the faith that gave birth to the West is dying in the West, peoples of European descent from the steppes of Russia to the coast of California have begun to die out, as the Third World treks north to claim the estate. The last decade provided corroborating if not conclusive proof that we are in the Indian Summer of our civilization." So begins Pat Buchanan in his hardcore work, SUICIDE OF A SUPERPOWER. "Will America Survive to 2025?" Buchanan, set for maximum controversy, launches all rockets at introduction "Disintegrating Nation" -- and does not let up for 400-plus pages. "America is disintegrating. The centrifugal forces pulling us apart are growing inexorably. What unites us is dissolving. And this is true of Western Civilization....Meanwhile, the state is failing in its most fundamental duties. It is no longer able to defend our borders, balance our budgets, or win our wars." The books reads as if its been written to be left behind in the ruins, only to be found by a future civilization. SUICIDE ranked #2,668 on AMAZON's hit parade early Friday. It streets on Tuesday. Now only the DRUDGE REPORT can offer a look inside. Chapter 1: The Passing of a Superpower “We have accepted today the existence in perpetuity of a permanent underclass of scores of millions who cannot cope and must be carried by society -- fed, clothed, housed, tutored, medicated at taxpayer’s expense their entire lives. We have a dependent nation the size of Spain in our independent America. We have a new division in our country, those who pay a double or triple fare, and those who ride forever free.” Chapter 2. The End of Christian America If [Christopher] Dawson is correct, the drive to de-Christianize America, to purge Christianity from the public square, public schools and public life, will prove culturally and socially suicidal for the nation. “The last consequence of a dying Christianity is a dying people. Not one post-Christian nation has a birth rate sufficient to keep it alive....The death of European Christianity means the disappearance of the European tribe, a prospect visible in the demographic statistics of every Western nation.” Chapter 3. The Crisis of Catholicism “Half a century on, the disaster is manifest. The robust and confident Church of 1958 no longer exists. Catholic colleges and universities remain Catholic in name only. Parochial schools and high schools are closing as rapidly as they opened in the 1950s. The numbers of nuns, priests and seminarians have fallen dramatically. Mass attendance is a third of what it was. From the former Speaker of the House to the Vice President, Catholic politicians openly support abortion on demand.” “How can Notre Dame credibly teach that all innocent life is sacred, and then honor a president committed to ensuring that a woman’s right to end the life of her innocent child remains sacrosanct?” Chapter 4. The End of White America “[W]hite America is an endangered species. By 2020, whites over 65 will out-number those 17 and under. Deaths will exceed births. The white population will begin to shrink and, should present birth rates persist, slowly disappear.” “Mexico is moving north. Ethnically, linguistically and culturally, the verdict of 1848 is being over-turned. Will this Mexican nation within a nation advance the goals of the Constitution -- to “insure domestic tranquility” and ‘make us a more perfect union’? Or have we imperiled our union?” (Page 134) Chapter 5. Demographic Winter “Peoples of European descent are not only in a relative but a real decline. They are aging, dying, disappearing. This is the existential crisis of the West.” (Page 166) “Not any Iranian weapon of mass destruction but demography is the existential crisis Israel faces....By mid-century...Palestinians west of the Jordan river will out-number Jews 2-1. Add Palestinians in Jordan, it is 3-1.” “In a startling development of history, Russia’s population has fallen from 148 million in 1991 to 140 million today and is projected to plunge to 116 million by 2050, a loss of 32 million Russians in six decades.” Chapter 6. Equality Vs. Freedom “Those who would change society begin by changing the meaning of words. At Howard University, LBJ changed the meaning of equality from the attainable -- an end to segregation and a legislated equality of rights for African-Americans -- to the impossible: a socialist utopia.” “Where equality is enthroned, freedom is extinguished. The rise of the egalitarian society means the death of the free society.” “A time for truth. As most kids do not have the athletic ability to play high school sports, or the musical ability to play in the band, or the verbal ability to excel in debate, not every child has the academic ability to do high school work. No two children are created equal, not even identical twins. The family is the incubator of inequality and God its author.” Chapter 7. The Diversity Cult “The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental quality,” Wattenberg trilled.4 Yet, one wonders: What kind of man looks with transcendental joy to a day when the people among whom he was raised have become a minority in a nation where the majority rules?” “Historians will look back in stupor at 20th and 21st century Americans who believed the magnificent republic they inherited would be enriched by bringing in scores of millions from the failed states of the Third World.” Chapter 8: The Triumph Of Tribalism America’s war of revenge against Japan was a race war. Newsreels, movies, magazines, comic books, headlines treated “Japs” as a repulsive race whose extermination would benefit mankind....Only well after the war was over was it re-branded a war to bring the blessings of democracy to...Japan. We may deny the existence of ethnonationalism, detest it, condemn it. But this creator and destroyer of empires and nations is a force infinitely more powerful than globalism, for it engages the heart. Men will die for it. Religion, race, culture and tribe are the four horsemen of the coming apocalypse. Chapter 9. ‘The White Party’ “Through its support of mass immigration, its paralysis in power to prevent 12-20 million illegal aliens from entering and staying, its failure to address the “anchor-baby” issue, the Republican Party has birthed a new electorate that will send it the way of the Whigs.” Chapter 10: The Long Retreat “We borrow from Europe to defend Europe. We borrow from the Gulf states to defend the Gulf states. We borrow from Japan to defend Japan. Is it not a symptom of senility to be borrowing from the world so we can defend the world?” “Are vital U.S. interests more imperiled by what happens in Iraq where were have 50,000 troops, or Afghanistan where we have 100,000, or South Korea where we have 28,000 -- or by what is happening on our border with Mexico?...What does it profit America if we save Anbar and lose Arizona?” Chapter 11: The Last Chance “We are trying to create a nation that has never before existed, of all the races, tribes, cultures and creeds of Earth, where all are equal. In this utopian drive for the perfect society of our dreams we are killing the real country we inherited -- the best and greatest country on earth.” Developing...
Poster Comment: This sounds like a must read book. Maybe Pat Buchanan should enter the race. I'd vote for him.
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#93. To: sneakypete (#86)
Jesus Christ commanded His followers to engage in fellowship with other believers. Sure, there are "Christians" who exploit the situation and turn it into business and power. It doesn't invalidate or indict the Word and Gospel of Jesus Christ though, does it?
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
yes he is. I had the great pleasure of having dinner with him in the late '80's and he is a very sincere individual that loves his country. He has been warning us for many years.
Which are the same things that drive organized religion. But religion has often been used as a a symbol and thus rallying cry to help justify strife and to inspire. I'd say it would be more of a tool than a symbol. "For Gawd and King!" "For Odin!" "Allah Akbar!" Etc,etc,etc.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
...freedom, money, citizen, wages, family, fair, free speech, terrorist, patriot...the list goes on for pages...but you are SO correct. They have CHANGED the meaning of words.
They didn't have to use the terminology then - Western Civ was THE world. Now it's used as a comparative gauge of other, less sophisticated civilizations. Btw, "Western Civilization" isn't a "binder" of anything, it's a descriptor.
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
Lol...(But I think the spelling is amiss.)
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
Really? Fish or chicken? ;-) ...and he is a very sincere individual that loves his country. He has been warning us for many years. He is, and he has been. And he's paid the price for eschewing PC-talk and rejecting the propaganda. It's actually a miracle he hasn't been buried altogether by the media and the Dems and GOP.
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
...LOL, I couldn't tell you what I had for dinner last week.
But you guys are always posting that the government and other institutions need to be run more like a business.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
That is what I said, when I criticized Buchanan's thesis. Buchanan acts as if there is some sort of unified Western Civilization that is a threat. The "west" produced 3 things of note: Technology/tool making, science (not the same thing as technology) and rational thought/free-thinking (The last part did not apply to all European countries at the same time or in the same place and time). Of these 3, technology and science would continue if Western civilization went away. All the technological foundations for what the Europeans did in the Industrial Age had already existed in the rest of the world like in China as pre-cursors and the only reason I can tell that they took off in the Western European lands was because they had a low population after the Black Death so they needed labor saving devices to replace human labor. That is why western Europeans who were the poorest and stupidest people of the known world experienced a leap. Science is now established around the world as a method of deducing reality. The last part, free thinking is still something "Westerners" do better but even Westerners have problems with it and many Europeans have had this ability and lost it over time so it is unstable even in the west but eventually this mindset will also dominate in other cultures as well like in Japan, India, etc.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
what 53 years on this earth have taught me is, MOST people don't want the truth...it's far easier for them to have someone else tell them what to believe...
Thanks for that newsflash. ...and no matter how much you and the other cultists believe what you are taught,religion is NOT a co-equal of our form of government. I must have missed this myth in civics class. WHO exactly has EVER claimed religion to be a "co-equal of our form of government"?? NAMES of the Founders, please (unless you are referring to Sharia Law adherents.) OR anyone of note for that matter.
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
Maybe as a Catholic he feels guilty at not producing children and is obsessed with this "europeans are becoming extinct" more than is normal?
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
Unfortunately, tis true. For most folks the Fairy Tale never dies.
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
...apparently you know his physical abilities and those of his wife, better than I do, so I'll defer to your expertise. /sac
It is within the political system that embraced Christian ethics that promoted the liberty to THINK AND PRODUCE AND INNOVATE without interference from statists and dictators that produced the greatest benefits and inventions of and for mankind. That system found a foothold mostly in America and Europe. Deal with it.
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
"Yep, and the only part in question is how many get killed." Attacked? By whom? The only people these brain washed happy campers are a threat to, is the Unionized Sanitation Dept. workers. Take a good look at these worthless sheep who think they will get what they want by staging sit-ins and deficating in public... It's what you DON'T see that counts. Take the number of what you see there, then multiply that by a thousand. I promise you, if/when, push comes to shove, those ignorant pussies will show the world how fast they can run, and hide, when the real shit hits the fan. jmho!
As a Catholic he can't use birth control so either one is sterile or they are bad Catholics which makes him feel guilty?
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
Take a good look at these worthless sheep who think they will get what they want by staging sit-ins and deficating in public... An envious Tea Bagger is an angry Tea Bagger.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Deal with it. The Germans that over ran the Western Roman empire and the population of the West were mostly Christians already so Western post Roman Europe had about a 1,000 years of Christianity and Western Europe was during that time the stupidest and poorest region of the known world. So clearly, Christianity did not make them smarter for 1,000 years of history. About 600 to 500 years ago Europeans in the West rediscovered classical thinking (Renaissance) which coupled with a labor shortage produced kicked off the Industrial age. The classical Greeks and the Romans all knew this knowledge as did the Chinese and Indians and Arabs but they had no labor shortages so did not need to create labor saving devices like post Black Death Europe did. In fact manufactured goods were actually more expensive than hand made goods in Western Europe at first but because there was a labor shortage it was worth the investment to expand machine made goods and that lowered the cost of production. Christianity had nothing to do with any of it really.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
No, not much. Bwaahaa! The entire world was bogged down for a thousand years. But STILL Western Europe produced most of the political, financial, and innovative systems in use today. And I guess it's been that ol' "Atheist Ethic" that has accelerated Western innovation, technology, and inventions during the 19th and 20th centuries?
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
Is "envy" your reaction to theft and assault?
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
BWAAHAA!!
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
THOSE gestures are meaningful and symbolically poignant. Commies defecate where ever, when ever THEY assemble. THAT IS their "point." When 100x more tea partiers showed up at DC, and there was nary a piece of litter remaining by the time they'd left.
“Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” ~ Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist author of 'Rules for Radicals', Saul Alinsky
As opposed to unleaded Catholics?
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
"Is "envy" your reaction to theft and assault?" I don't believe I have ever seen a poster as moronic, as stupid as this one, she has no mind to think with, she comprehends nothing, she is a follower (gawd, and look at the critters here she follows), she has no leadership qualities, she has to borrow thoughts from others, she has none of her own. She is so dense she could analyze me till her last two teeth fell out, and still not know anything about me. How in the hell could I ever live with myself if I envied that parasitic skank, or anyone like her? I will feel better now if I go and puke....
A) Read your own schlufferspittle 'afore calling another poster mornic and stupid. B) You listed several things which all mean the same thing as the first thing you listed. C) The semi-colon is our friend.
[RENT THIS SPACE INSIDE BOOFER'S HEAD]
B) You listed several things which all mean the same thing as the first thing you listed. C) The semi-colon is our friend. It's okay. She personifies the Tea Baggers' emotional state of desperation: "When the going gets tough, a Tea Bagger pukes".
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
No,I didn't. The original post may have been about Pat's comments about the US and Islam,but the subject had shifted to world domination by the time of my post. The "Christianity" you allude to was actually the counterfeit "Christianity" and Papal dictatorship of the Catholic Church. Jesus never commanded an "Empire" be taken by sword. Gotcha! It was the "Counterfeit Christians" doing all that evil stuff,not "the one true faith". Have you explained this to the Catholics? Organized religion is about wealth and power. Some of it is. Some of it isn't. HorseHillary. I suppose you never heard the term "Kill a commie for Christ!" No. Uh,huh. Pull my finger. You mean corrupt Popes who perverted the Word of Christ 400 years ago should be held up as the Hood Ornament of "Christianity"? Yeah,those guys. Leaders of a,maybe THE, largest Christian cult in the world. I don't think so. Yet you were able to name the very people I was using as an example. Amazing! As to your other so-called examples, what exactly are you proving? That Christianity is "evil"? Or just ALL religions? No,all organized religions. The corruption and greed begins once you start to build places of worship,and demand special privileges from government. That said Pete, they have no bearing on your original thrust - that Catholicism and Islam have colluded to "Divide and Conquer" the US. Where the HELL have I EVER wrote or even implied that? Yeah,they both lust after power and wealth,but they are competitors,not allies. They have even fought several wars to illuminate this,and are on one level fighting one right now.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Pretty much.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
It ain't like they ain't tried. They even trotted out the "anti-Semite" and "Nazi" cards to play against him.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
We have to because there is a budget to be balanced on the backs of the people,and there are cretins like you out there proclaiming that government should be ran like a charity that gives everybody everything they want and "it doesn't cost anybody anything but the rich!" Government has NO money that doesn't come from the labors and work of the citizens. None.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
WRONG! He writes that it is Western Civilization that is being THREATENED. And he is right. There is a difference between being a threat and being threatened.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
dumbphuck DwarF: A) Read your own schlufferspittle 'afore calling another poster mornic and stupid. B) You listed several things which all mean the same thing as the first thing you listed. C) The semi-colon is our friend. Badeye called it: "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." Murron, you've simply made the observation that leftists are mentally deranged, and unable to accept reality when faced with it. They prefer delusions, because they can then choose to believe anything they want. If they choose to believe the entire universe revolves around them, it's easier and simpler (and perhaps more comforting for their egos) than accepting that nobody GAS about them, and their delusions. They're mentally sick. And their stubborn insistence on creating and believing their delusions, makes them dangerous, much like rabid dogs. One can sympathize with a sick animal; just don't let it bite. Oh, and DumPhuck DwarF's attacks [as concisely summarized by Badeye] are the only way he knows, of covering for his own sickness...
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- You really are fucking stupid, Junior. Mammy was attacking another poster.
[RENT THIS SPACE INSIDE BOOFER'S HEAD]
...WOW, so you presume to know the feelings of another. seek help
EVERY single "True Believer" that has ever lived. Most notably,the modern Evangelicals at their pulpits and on their radio and tv shows. NAMES of the Founders, please (unless you are referring to Sharia Law adherents.) Have you lost your freaking mind? NONE of the Founders wanted organized religion to be a leg of government. Even the ones that were religious had enough recent experience in Europe of the result of that kind of foolishness. Which is why they demanded Separation of Church and State. Which YOUR KIND is repeatedly denying while demanding more "morality " laws be passed and enforced. OR anyone of note for that matter. EVERY single religious leader that has ever been on tv or the radio,and I am guessing all the ones that haven't. Let's start with the alleged Moral Majority.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
You mean Barry AIN'T going to pay the rent and car payments for his peep-pulls?
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
They demanded no such thing. Quote one founding father demanding that. You can't. They didn't. Only congresss was forbidden from setting up a national religion.
That's an interesting theory. One that had never occurred to me before. I have to think that demand due to increased trade was a major player in that,too. You eventually reach a point where no amount of labor can produce the required work,and then the necessity of creating new machines or systems to meet the demand becomes the engine driving the new creations and ideas.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Government has NO money that doesn't come from the labors and work of the citizens. None. I'm sure an astute poster such as yourself will have a link handy to back up that statement.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestNo,I am just pointing out that organized religion is not the same thing as religion. One is a money-making business that seeks power and wealth,and the other is a set of individual beliefs about the proper way to live life.
#94. To: A K A Stone (#4)
Pat Buchanan a true patriot.
#95. To: Liberator (#77)
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Not necessarily. The root cause of tribalism and clans fighting has mostly been over territory, power, greed, fear, and ego.
#96. To: A K A Stone (#49)
Marriage. Check mate.
#97. To: Godwinson (#65)
No European or American until the late 19th century used the term "Western civilization...it was a meaningless concept as far as binding people together.
#98. To: sneakypete (#95)
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"For Gawd and King!"
#99. To: freedomsnotfree (#94)
I had the great pleasure of having dinner with him in the late '80's...
#100. To: Liberator (#99)
#101. To: sneakypete (#86)
No,I am just pointing out that organized religion is not the same thing as religion. One is a money-making business that seeks power and wealth,and the other is a set of individual beliefs about the proper way to live life.
#102. To: Liberator (#97)
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Btw, "Western Civilization" isn't a "binder" of anything, it's a descriptor.
#103. To: Liberator (#99)
He is, and he has been. And he's paid the price for eschewing PC-talk and rejecting the propaganda. It's actually a miracle he hasn't been buried altogether by the media and the Dems and GOP.
#104. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#92)
Despite that,it should be noted that we no longer live in the Middle Ages...
#105. To: freedomsnotfree, A K A Stone (#94)
yes he is. I had the great pleasure of having dinner with him in the late '80's and he is a very sincere individual that loves his country. He has been warning us for many years.
#106. To: freedomsnotfree (#103)
what 53 years on this earth have taught me is, MOST people don't want the truth...it's far easier for them to have someone else tell them what to believe...
#107. To: Godwinson (#105)
Maybe as a Catholic he feels guilty at not producing children and is obsessed with this "europeans are becoming extinct" more than is normal?
#108. To: Godwinson (#102)
I can tell that they took off in the Western European lands was because they had a low population after the Black Death so they needed labor saving devices to replace human labor. That is why western Europeans who were the poorest and stupidest people of the known world experienced a leap.
#109. To: mininggold, mcgowanjm (#14)
"The OWSers will have to be attacked. in the middle of the nite."
#110. To: freedomsnotfree (#107)
..apparently you know his physical abilities and those of his wife, better than I do, so I'll defer to your expertise. /sac
#111. To: Murron (#109)
Attacked? By whom? The only people these brain washed happy campers are a threat to, is the Unionized Sanitation Dept. workers.
#112. To: Liberator (#108)
It is within the political system that embraced Christian ethics that promoted the liberty to THINK AND PRODUCE AND INNOVATE without interference from statists and dictators that produced the greatest benefits and inventions of and for mankind. That system found a foothold mostly in America and Europe.
#113. To: Godwinson (#112)
Christianity had nothing to do with any of it really.
#114. To: mininggold, Murron (#111)
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An envious Tea Bagger is an angry Tea Bagger.
#115. To: Murron (#109)
The only people these brain washed happy campers are a threat to, is the Unionized Sanitation Dept. workers.
#116. To: Murron, mininggold, mcgowanjm (#109)
Take a good look at these worthless sheep who think they will get what they want by staging sit-ins and deficating in public...
#117. To: Godwinson (#87)
I clearly mentioned the Crusades before hand (aka Latin Catholics).
#118. To: Liberator, (#114)
"An envious Tea Bagger is an angry Tea Bagger."
#119. To: Murron, minninggold (#118)
I don't believe I have ever seen a poster as moronic, as stupid as this one,[cs]she has no mind to think with, [cs] she comprehends nothing, [cs] she is a follower (gawd, and look at the critters here she follows), [cs] she has no leadership qualities, [cs] she has to borrow thoughts from others, she has none of her own.[cs]
#120. To: war (#119)
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A) Read your own schlufferspittle 'afore calling another poster mornic and stupid.
#121. To: Liberator (#90)
You basically claimed Catholics and Islam colluded to "Divide and Conquer" the US. NOT working, Pete.
#122. To: Liberator (#93)
It doesn't invalidate or indict the Word and Gospel of Jesus Christ though, does it?
#123. To: Liberator (#99)
It's actually a miracle he hasn't been buried altogether by the media and the Dems and GOP.
#124. To: mininggold (#101)
But you guys are always posting that the government and other institutions need to be run more like a business.
#125. To: Godwinson (#102)
Buchanan acts as if there is some sort of unified Western Civilization that is a threat.
#126. To: war, Murron, minninggold (#119)
Murron: I don't believe I have ever seen a poster as moronic, as stupid as this one, she has no mind to think with, she comprehends nothing, she is a follower (gawd, and look at the critters here she follows), she has no leadership qualities, she has to borrow thoughts from others, she has none of her own. She is so dense she could analyze me till her last two teeth fell out, and still not know anything about me. How in the hell could I ever live with myself if I envied that parasitic skank, or anyone like her?
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff? 
#127. To: Capitalist Eric, minninggold (#126)
#128. To: Godwinson (#110)
so either one is sterile or they are bad Catholics which makes him feel guilty?
#129. To: Liberator (#104)
WHO exactly has EVER claimed religion to be a "co-equal of our form of government"??
#130. To: Liberator (#106)
For most folks the Fairy Tale never dies.
#131. To: sneakypete (#129)
#132. To: Godwinson (#112)
The classical Greeks and the Romans all knew this knowledge as did the Chinese and Indians and Arabs but they had no labor shortages so did not need to create labor saving devices like post Black Death Europe did. In fact manufactured goods were actually more expensive than hand made goods in Western Europe at first but because there was a labor shortage it was worth the investment to expand machine made goods and that lowered the cost of production.
#133. To: sneakypete (#124)
We have to because there is a budget to be balanced on the backs of the people,and there are cretins like you out there proclaiming that government should be ran like a charity that gives everybody everything they want and "it doesn't cost anybody anything but the rich!"
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