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Title: The fill in the blank quiz that stumped war!
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Published: Oct 14, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-10-14 08:58:37 by A K A Stone
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In the United States of America you are considered ___________________ until proven guilty.

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#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Wah Wah...
war didn't answer my specious,
spurious and stupid question...
wah wah wah

war  posted on  2011-10-14   9:56:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#2)

war didn't answer my specious,

No. War is to stupid or he can't spin the question. You still don't know the answer. Or you wont admit it because it will affect your ability to spin.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   10:00:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#3) (Edited)

The issue isn't about answering your stupid question about the presumption of innocence that a person is afforded after they have been charged with a crime and the issue goes to adjudication - no one is arrested on a presumption of innocence.

The issue is what powers the Commander in Chief has in ordering the killing of a specific enemy combatant.

war  posted on  2011-10-14   10:13:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#5)

Enemy combatant is a recently invented word to try and take rights away from people.

The founding fathers would be considered enemy combatants.

You really hate the constitution don't you! It wasn't a question.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   10:16:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Enemy combatant is a recently invented word to try and take rights away from people.

Why do you spout this bullshit?

First off, "enemy combatant" is TWO words.

Secondly,. read the decision rendered in Ex Parte Qurin from 1942. The term "ENEMY COMBATANT" has been around for decades.

Thirdly, as a result of court decisions surrounding the detention of Al Qaeda prisoners at Gitmo, DumbDubv43 was actually forced to narrowly define what an "enemy combatant" was in the war against Al Qeada:

"Enemy combatant" shall mean an individual who was part of or supporting Taliban or al Qaeda forces, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners. This includes any person who has committed belligerent act or has directly supported hostilities in aid of enemy combat forces.

war  posted on  2011-10-14   10:28:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war, A K A Stone (#8)

Why do you spout this bullshit?

First off, "enemy combatant" is TWO words.

Secondly,. read the decision rendered in Ex Parte Qurin from 1942. The term "ENEMY COMBATANT" has been around for decades.

Thirdly, as a result of court decisions surrounding the detention of Al Qaeda prisoners at Gitmo, DumbDubv43 was actually forced to narrowly define what an "enemy combatant" was in the war against Al Qeada:

"Enemy combatant" shall mean an individual who was part of or supporting Taliban or al Qaeda forces, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners. This includes any person who has committed belligerent act or has directly supported hostilities in aid of enemy combat forces.

This bullshit was destroyed by the U.S. Supreme Court in Hamdan.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-10-14   21:59:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: nolu chan (#59)

This bullshit was destroyed by the U.S. Supreme Court in Hamdan.

Guess again.

That was the definition that was used from 2004 until Obama - supposedly - abandoned it.

Hamden was decided in 2006 and nothing from Hamden changed one word in that definition.

war  posted on  2011-10-14   23:04:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#63. To: war (#60)

That was the definition that was used from 2004 until Obama - supposedly - abandoned it.

Read the opinion. "On November 13, 2001, while the United States was still engaged in active combat with the Taliban, the President issued a comprehansive military order intended to govern the 'Detention, Treatment, and Trial of Certain Non-Citizens in the War Against Terrorism,' 66 Fed. Reg. 57833 (hereinafter November 13 Order or Order."

That's the Order that was at issue before the Court. The legal action was commenced in 2004. The Supreme Court was acting as an Appellate court. Get a clue.

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