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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Other See other Other Articles Title: The fill in the blank quiz that stumped war! Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: Oct 14, 2011 Author: A K A Stone Post Date: 2011-10-14 08:58:37 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 73271 Comments: 107 In the United States of America you are considered ___________________ until proven guilty. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 53. #17. To: A K A Stone (#0) Considering how intellectual lazy you are, I'm not surprised to see you use an attack thread aimed at war to try to browbeat him rather then to make the effort to focus on trying to articulate a well framed rebuttal of his contentions and beliefs on this issue. I am not impressed. Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-14   13:06:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Ferret Mike (#17) I am not impressed. I'm not impressed with you either. You say you are against the death penalty. Yet since it is your messiah you think that he can murder at will They said he was involved in 911, which you say you think was an inside job. Yet you condone Obamas assassination of someone that is an American citizen. Even if he was a disgusting human being. Hypocrite. If Bush had done this you would have been calling for impeachment. Like I said. You aren't impressive at all. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   14:30:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited) There isn't a day that goes by here wherein you do not call for the summary execution of people who a) you don't agree with or b) whose way of living you don't agree with. war  posted on  2011-10-14   14:33:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: war (#20) There isn't a day that goes by here wherein you do not call for the summary execution of people who a) you don't agree with or b) whose way of living you don't agree with. That is rich. I'm the one saying a man was assassinated and saying it is wrong. You are saying the President can say anyone is a terrorist and kill him at will with no evidence ever being presented. Moron. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   14:39:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: A K A Stone (#21) That is rich. I'm the one saying a man was assassinated and saying it is wrong. No soldier is assassinated. They are killed. You are saying the President can say anyone is a terrorist and kill him at will with no evidence ever being presented. That is not what I am saying and I have asked you previously not to put words into my mouth... war  posted on  2011-10-14   14:43:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: war (#22) No soldier is assassinated. They are killed. What army was he in? A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   14:44:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: A K A Stone (#24) What army was he in? Al Qaeda... war  posted on  2011-10-14   14:49:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: war (#27) Al Qaeda... You mean the word that no on ever heard of until after 911. Fiction to fool the fools. Fool. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   14:50:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: A K A Stone (#29) You mean the word that no on ever heard of until after 911. Fiction to fool the fools. Al Qaeda was known prior to 9/11. I already know that you know a lot that isn't. You don't need to impress me any more... war  posted on  2011-10-14   14:54:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: war (#31) Al Qaeda was known prior to 9/11. Can you find something on the net that mentions them say in the nineties? A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   14:56:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: A K A Stone (#33) (Edited) Can you find something on the net that mentions them say in the nineties? Do you see "File Clerk" stamped on my head? war  posted on  2011-10-14   14:57:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: war (#34) You made the claim. You can't back it up. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   14:59:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: A K A Stone (#36) U.S. Indictment: 'Detonated an Explosive Device' Published: November 5, 1998 E-Mail Send To Phone Print Following is an excerpt from the indictment returned yesterday in a Federal District Court in Manhattan against the Saudi exile, Osama bin-Laden: At all relevant times from, in or about 1989 until the date of the filing of this indictment, an international terrorist group existed which was dedicated to opposing non-Islamic governments with force and violence. This organization grew out of the ''mekhtab al khidemat'' (the ''Services Office'') organization which had maintained offices in various parts of the world, including Afghanistan, Pakistan (particularly in Peshawar) and the United States, particularly at the Alkifah Refugee Center in Brooklyn, N.Y. The group was founded by defendants Osama bin Laden and Muhammad Atef, a.k.a ''Abu Hafs al- Masry,'' together with ''Abu Ubaidah al-Banshiri'' and others. From in or about 1989 until the present, the group called itself ''Al Qaeda''' (''the Base''). From 1989 until in or about 1991, the group (hereafter referred to as ''Al Qaeda'') was headquartered in Afghanistan and Peshawar, Pakistan. In or about 1991, the leadership of Al Qaeda, including its ''emir'' (or prince) defendant Osama bin Laden, relocated to Sudan. Al Qaeda was headquartered in the Sudan from approximately 1991 until approximately 1996 but still maintained offices in various parts of the world. In 1996, defendants Osama bin Laden and Muhammad Atef and other members of Al Qaeda relocated to Afghanistan. At all relevant times, Al Qaeda was led by its emir, defendant Osama bin Laden. Members of Al Qaeda pledged an oath of allegiance (called a ''bayat'') to defendant Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda opposed the United States for several reasons. First, the United States was regarded as an 'infidel'' because it was not governed in a manner consistent with the group's extremist interpretation of Islam. Second, the United States was viewed as providing essential support for other ''infidel'' governments and institutions, particularly the governments of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the nation of Israel and the United Nations organization, which were regarded as enemies of the group. Third, Al Qaeda opposed the involvement of the United States armed forces in the [Persian] gulf war in 1991 and in Operation Restore Hope in Somalia in 1992 and 1993, which were viewed by Al Qaeda as pretextual preparations for an American occupation of Islamic countries. In particular, Al Qaeda opposes the continued presence of American military forces in Saudi Arabia (and elsewhere on the Saudi Arabian peninsula) following the gulf war. Fourth, Al Qaeda opposed the United States Government because of the arrest, conviction and imprisonment of persons belonging to Al Qaeda or its affiliated terrorist groups or with whom it worked, including Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman. One of the principal goals of Al Qaeda was to drive the United States armed forces out of Saudi Arabia (and elsewhere on the Saudi Arabian peninsula) and Somalia by violence. Members of Al Qaeda issued fatwahs (rulings of Islamic law) indicating that such attacks were both proper and necessary. Al Qaeda functioned both on its own and through some of the terrorist organizations that operated under its umbrella, including: the Al Jihad group based in Egypt, led by, among others, Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, named as a co- conspirator but not as a defendant herein; the Islamic Group (also known as ''El Gamaa Islamia'' or simply ''Gamaa't''), led by Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and later by Ahmed Refai Taha, a.k.a. ''Abu Yasser al-Masri,'' named as co- conspirators but not as defendants herein; and a number of jihad groups. . . . Osama bin Laden, the defendant, and Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with representatives of the Government of Iran, and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah, for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. . . . On Oct. 3 and 4, 1993, in Mogadishu, Somalia, persons who had been trained by Al Qaeda (and by trainers trained by Al Qaeda) participated in an attack on United States military personnel serving in Somalia as part of Operation Restore Hope, which resulted in the killing of 18 United States Army personnel. . . . war  posted on  2011-10-14   15:03:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: war (#38) Following is an excerpt from the indictment returned yesterday in a Federal District Court I asked for something predating 911. Back in the nineties. This is just from yesterday making claims. Go try again. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   16:11:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: A K A Stone (#50) Are you blind? Go get your reading glasses Stoned. Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-14   16:15:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: Fred Mertz (#51) Following is an excerpt from the indictment returned yesterday A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-14   16:22:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 53. #55. To: A K A Stone (#53) On Oct. 3 and 4, 1993, in Mogadishu, Somalia, persons who had been trained by Al Qaeda (and by trainers trained by Al Qaeda) participated in an attack on United States military personnel serving in Somalia as part of Operation Restore Hope, which resulted in the killing of 18 United States Army personnel. . . . Are you blind? Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-14 16:25:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #57. To: A K A Stone (#53) Following is an excerpt from the indictment returned yesterday Dated from 1998, doof... war  posted on  2011-10-14 19:55:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 53. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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