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Title: Plumbers send Joe down the drain
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65746.html
Published: Oct 12, 2011
Author: PATRICK GAVIN
Post Date: 2011-10-12 13:55:54 by Skip Intro
Keywords: None
Views: 56954
Comments: 107

As Joe Wurzelbacher, aka “Joe the Plumber,” looks for support for a possible congressional run, he won’t find a lot of backing in one particular demographic: Plumbers.

Some of the nation’s most notable plumbing trade organizations are reacting to news of Wurzelbacher’s run with disinterest or, in one case, disgust.

Rick Terven, Sr. is with The United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry of the United States and Canada (know simply as “UA” to the 340,000 members it claims) and writes POLITICO in an email:

“As you know both Dennis Kucinich and Marcy Kaptor are also considering this race and have stood by working families time and time again. In doing so they both have earned the strong support of our members in Ohio. ‘Joe the Plumber’ may have played a part in the 2008 election story, but we know that the plumbers of the United Association and all other plumbers who care about working people will continue to support either Democratic nominee, not ‘Joe the Plumber.’

“‘Joe the Plumber’ does not represent the United Association nor our union members in any way. This is someone who appears to care more about being a celebrity than actually helping working families.”

It was revealed this week that Wurzelbacher filed papers for a potential House run in northern Ohio, although he has yet to make a final decision.

Jim Kendzel is the Executive Director and CEO of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers and hadn’t heard of Wurzelbacher’s run until POLITICO’s phone call. And he didn’t seem moved by it either way, saying: “We encourage all of our members to be active in legislative and code process both at the local and state and federal level promoting good plumbing, engineering practices.”

But as for Wurzelbacher, specifically?

“We really don’t have any comment related to that.”

Well, except on one minor detail: “I don’t believe he’s actually a plumber.”

Kendzel’s right. Wurzelbacher rose to prominence during the 2008 campaign between Barack Obama and John McCain and earned the moniker “Joe the Plumber,” even though it was subsequently revealed that he wasn’t a licensed plumber.

It’s a distinction that’s not lost on the plumbing community.

“I don’t think he’s actually licensed,” said Charlotte Perham, senior director of communications for the Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association, which bills itself on its website as “the oldest trade association in the construction industry.”

“I don’t know a lot about him,” said Perham, although she did know that “he’s not a member of our organization.”

“At this point, we don’t have any comment.”

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#1. To: Skip Intro (#0)

OMG! UNION THUGS OPPOSE
A CONSERVATIVE/REPUBLICAN

Film @ 11!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-10-12   14:02:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#1)

Personally, I hope he runs. With Palin gone and Bachmann fading there's an opening for another idiot.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   14:05:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Skip Intro, Get Outta Dodge! (#2)

Joe, "The Plumber" is neither named "Joe" nor a licensed plumber.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-12   15:06:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Godwinson (#11)

Joe, "The Plumber" is neither named "Joe" nor a licensed plumber.

You don't need to be licensed to be a plumber.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   18:10:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

Joe, "The Plumber" is neither named "Joe" nor a licensed plumber.

You don't need to be licensed to be a plumber.

Yes you do. Why are you stupid?

http://www.contractors-license.org/oh/Ohio.html

You must hold a state license do Electrical, HVAC, Refrigeration, Plumbing, or Hydronics work in Ohio.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-12   19:39:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Godwinson (#14)

You must hold a state license do Electrical, HVAC, Refrigeration, Plumbing, or Hydronics work in Ohio.

lol. I do plumbing work all the time. I can do any plumbing work a "licensed" plumber can.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   19:40:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#15)

I can do any plumbing work a "licensed" plumber can.

My toilet bowl isn't flushing properly. I have to hold the flush handle down for 4 seconds. Any suggestions?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-12   21:02:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#23)

My toilet bowl isn't flushing properly. I have to hold the flush handle down for 4 seconds. Any suggestions?

Have you tried uncorking your head out of the toilet?

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-12   23:10:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: All (#31)

Good heavens...After not only noting the subject if this thread, then reading several of LF's Commies' posts, I believe my own IQ has dropped a full ten points.

Joe the Plumber WAS a plumber. Joe the Plumber also cleaned 0bama's clock, inducing him to admit he was a Communist whose goal was the "spread the wealth around."

Somebody please tell me again why this forum is chock full of Commie clowns and stooges? Why aren't they at DU, KOS, or HuffPo?

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-12   23:19:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator, A K A Stone, ALL (#32)

Good heavens...After not only noting the subject if this thread, then reading several of LF's Commies' posts, I believe my own IQ has dropped a full ten points.

Joe the Plumber WAS a plumber. Joe the Plumber also cleaned 0bama's clock, inducing him to admit he was a Communist whose goal was the "spread the wealth around."

Somebody please tell me again why this forum is chock full of Commie clowns and stooges? Why aren't they at DU, KOS, or HuffPo?

I don't mean any disrespect to our host, but I'm going to tell it like it is.

Our nation is in big trouble, she needs us, she needs us "UNITED" more than ever in history, and as long as people like our friend Stone thinks he can placate both sides in this fight, uniting ourselves just ain't going to happen, you don't give the enemy a soap box in your home to spew his anti-American hate, not matter how unfair you might think this is, their views and what they want to turn this nation into is what we are fighting to prevent. We either want to win this fight, uniting our people in numbers that can move mountains, or spend our days logging in and watch more of the same division, disruption and hate these pathetic fascists are spreading. If they had come here to learn, these liberals, then they would have learned something after all these years, that should tell anyone today they have no intention of listening, or learning, or even civily debating, it is either their way, the fascist way, or the highway. JMHO!

Murron  posted on  2011-10-13   0:41:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Murron (#35)

If they had come here to learn...

From you, Mammy? From Boofer?!?

Okay...I'm game...learn WHAT from you exactly? That both of you are - barely - semi-literate? That both of you routinely lie your asses off? That you're a vindicative little snot who never has anything to say about the topic of any thread but plenty to say about the poster?

We either want to win this fight, uniting our people in numbers that can move mountains, or spend our days logging in and watch more of the same division, disruption and hate these pathetic fascists are spreading.

Wow...Mammy...if you hadn't spittled all over your chin that might have been arousing...

war  posted on  2011-10-13   9:03:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: war, Badeye, A K A Stone (#40)

From you, Mammy? From Boofer?!?

Okay...I'm game...learn WHAT from you exactly? That both of you are - barely - semi-literate? That both of you routinely lie your asses off? That you're a vindicative little snot who never has anything to say about the topic of any thread but plenty to say about the poster?

In the beginning, our young nation was iliterate and simi-literate, they never had the advantages and tools to educate themselves we have today, but we have them today because of these "ILITERATE", backwater, ragtag people.

They brought themselves together to form a nation "UNDER GOD", they were smart enough, and brave enough, to put their differences aside to write, and put their john hancocks to the Declaration of Independence, a document charging King George with offences and crimes against our people, and to back it up with WAR to defend it. They were a pathetic lot, you'd be hard pressed to find two that could read or write.

Not one man who penned his name to the US Constitution was a perfect man, there is no such creature and never will be, they may have been iliterate and backwards by todays standards, but they were brave enough and smart enough to know how to put their differences aside and create a document that was to protect our God given rights as humans, and even smarter know there would be traitors (present company accepted) who would do anything to destroy this precious document.

You whine about me attacking some posters instead of addressing the issue at hand, well I'll tell you, the issue at hand is our Republic, something you and your big government loving socialist pigs would not understand, nor do any of you wish to, your mission is to tear this nation apart and re-create one tyrants like Che, Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler would have loved.

There are those here who defend the right of women to murder unborn babies, by the millions because they had a accident and want to get rid of it.

There are those here who shred our Bible and Gods word in favor of perverts who commit abominations because it feels good.

No one knows better what is happening in this nation than the elder Poles, the Jews, Gypsies, Slavs and so on, who have been there, and live to tell about it.

I know about most of what is discussed here than you will ever be privy to, but it's not the issues I avoid, most who count know exactly where I stand, it's just that I don't like you, I don't care for anything about you, If there were a better word to use than 'loathe', I would it to discribe how I feel about you, beneath contempt is where you are, you put yourself there, along with all these other low and commom anti-Americans, you deserve nothing more than contempt, and you will receive nothing from me but contempt.

But don't feel like the lone ranger, you are not alone.

The day you EVER pull your ignorant head out of your ass and do something, anything, as historical and of importance as our 'iliterate' founding fathers did, that will be the day you can boast, until then, you are an insulting little putz, a pisher no one pays attention to, who's twilight years are being spent in pissing contests on obscure websites...you have learned nothing, you have contributed to nothing that will make the lives of future generations better, or save our country from the hands of it's enemies. JMHO

Murron  posted on  2011-10-13   12:50:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Murron (#42) (Edited)

In the beginning, our young nation was iliterate [sic eye roll] and simi[sic eyeroll]-literate[sic eyeroll], they never had the advantages and tools to educate themselves we have today, but we have them today because of these "ILITERATE" [sic], backwater, ragtag people.

You're out of your mind. The Founders and Framers of this nation were all very highly educated. If you read the letters of Adams and Jefferson alone, you will discover them to be replete with references to Locke, Hobbes, Calvin, Plato etc etc etc.

They brought themselves together to form a nation "UNDER GOD",

Yet, oddly, left that fact out of any of the public documents that they produced.

they were smart enough, and brave enough, to put their differences aside to write, and put their john [sic] hancocks[sic] to the Declaration of Independence, a document charging King George with offences [sic] and crimes against our people, and to back it up with WAR to defend it. They were a pathetic lot,[cs] you'd be hard pressed to find two that could read or write.

The man who wrote that document was Thomas Jeferson, a man whose literary output included a journal of species of birds of the colonies, a bible that omitted any reference to the mystical God or Jesus, and A Summary of Rights of the British American.

John Adams was a lawyer.

John Hancock graduated from Boston Latin and Harvard.

Josiah Bartlett was a physician.

Caesar Rodney was a lawyer.

The list goes on and it should be personally embarrasssing to you that you know so little about them and would mischaracterize such learned men as illiterate.

I know about most of what is discussed here than you will ever be privy to

Wha...huh? Everything that is discussed here is visible to everyone. You're no more privy to it than any one else.

but it's not the issues I avoid, most who count know exactly where I stand, it's just that I don't like you, I don't care for anything about you, If there were a better word to use than 'loathe', I would it to discribe how I feel about you, beneath contempt is where you are, you put yourself there, along with all these other low and commom [sic] anti-Americans, you deserve nothing more than contempt, and you will receive nothing from me but contempt.

I'm deeply hurt.

[snicker]

Do you really believe that I give a flying fuck what you may ***think*** about me Mammy? Seriously, by what MAJOR malfunction of the chemical reactions inside of that roomy cranium of yours would you believe that I would care even a canary sized shit about the visceral sensations that you get from people on the internet?

You know absolutely diddly over squat about me. You have no idea how I live my life or who I really am or what I do. IN fact, and here's a helpful hint...LESS IS MORE in terms of what we want to know about YOUR life.

war  posted on  2011-10-13   13:24:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: war (#44)

You're out of your mind. The Founders and Framers of this nation were all very highly educated. If you read the letters of Adams and Jefferson alone, you will discover them to be replete with references to Locke, Hobbes, Calvin, Plato etc etc etc.

And you can bet she plagiarized it from some even dumber, 'iliterate' fool.

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-13   13:44:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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