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Title: Plumbers send Joe down the drain
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URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65746.html
Published: Oct 12, 2011
Author: PATRICK GAVIN
Post Date: 2011-10-12 13:55:54 by Skip Intro
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Comments: 107
As Joe Wurzelbacher, aka “Joe the Plumber,” looks for support for a possible congressional run, he won’t find a lot of backing in one particular demographic: Plumbers. Some of the nation’s most notable plumbing trade organizations are reacting to news of Wurzelbacher’s run with disinterest or, in one case, disgust. Rick Terven, Sr. is with The United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry of the United States and Canada (know simply as “UA” to the 340,000 members it claims) and writes POLITICO in an email: “As you know both Dennis Kucinich and Marcy Kaptor are also considering this race and have stood by working families time and time again. In doing so they both have earned the strong support of our members in Ohio. ‘Joe the Plumber’ may have played a part in the 2008 election story, but we know that the plumbers of the United Association and all other plumbers who care about working people will continue to support either Democratic nominee, not ‘Joe the Plumber.’ “‘Joe the Plumber’ does not represent the United Association nor our union members in any way. This is someone who appears to care more about being a celebrity than actually helping working families.” It was revealed this week that Wurzelbacher filed papers for a potential House run in northern Ohio, although he has yet to make a final decision. Jim Kendzel is the Executive Director and CEO of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers and hadn’t heard of Wurzelbacher’s run until POLITICO’s phone call. And he didn’t seem moved by it either way, saying: “We encourage all of our members to be active in legislative and code process both at the local and state and federal level promoting good plumbing, engineering practices.” But as for Wurzelbacher, specifically? “We really don’t have any comment related to that.” Well, except on one minor detail: “I don’t believe he’s actually a plumber.” Kendzel’s right. Wurzelbacher rose to prominence during the 2008 campaign between Barack Obama and John McCain and earned the moniker “Joe the Plumber,” even though it was subsequently revealed that he wasn’t a licensed plumber. It’s a distinction that’s not lost on the plumbing community. “I don’t think he’s actually licensed,” said Charlotte Perham, senior director of communications for the Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association, which bills itself on its website as “the oldest trade association in the construction industry.” “I don’t know a lot about him,” said Perham, although she did know that “he’s not a member of our organization.” “At this point, we don’t have any comment.”
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#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)
You don't need to be licensed to be a plumber. Yes you do. Why are you stupid? http://www.contractors-license.org/oh/Ohio.html You must hold a state license do Electrical, HVAC, Refrigeration, Plumbing, or Hydronics work in Ohio.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
lol. I do plumbing work all the time. I can do any plumbing work a "licensed" plumber can.
You have to ask?
You are a follower. Not a leader. No wonder you are so covetous.
You just can't do it legally. You don't sound any different from an illegal alien.
You liberals can take your fake unconstitutional laws and stick them up your asses.
There are laws to protect people from incompetent turds like you. Do you tell the people you do work for you don't have a license? Do you carry insurance?
Do you go to unlicensed doctors? Is licensing a doctor another one of those unconstitutional laws?
Of course. Licensing if any should be voluntary. Then you can choose who you want. I've been doing this since 96. I've never had a plumbing job call back. Ever. I do complete bathroom and kitchen remodeling.
My toilet bowl isn't flushing properly. I have to hold the flush handle down for 4 seconds. Any suggestions?
Get some fishing sinkers and tie them to your float.
Now I know what you're about. It's simply a ball and chain coordination thing. A ten dollar item. And you want me to buy a new toilet. You're an a-hole and a sheister too boot!
No. I want you to get your tackle box out.
It's obvious that your drain is clogged. I suggest a single shotgun shell fired into the bowl to unplug the blockage. Where should I send the bill?
It's irritating but not the end of the world. Your solution is cheaper that Aka Stoner's.
Skip Intro's Internet Plumbing Service - You Do the Work, I Send the Bill.
A K A, why is it important to you that "Joe the plumber" be considered an actual plumber? Is it because once revealed he is not a plumber than he is exposed as just being a delusional cult member of the GOP prosperity/racialist/end times cult?
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
Have you tried uncorking your head out of the toilet?
"Would you just go suck a c*ck and get it over with already?" war posted on 2011-10-12 11:14:27 ET
Good heavens...After not only noting the subject if this thread, then reading several of LF's Commies' posts, I believe my own IQ has dropped a full ten points. Joe the Plumber WAS a plumber. Joe the Plumber also cleaned 0bama's clock, inducing him to admit he was a Communist whose goal was the "spread the wealth around." Somebody please tell me again why this forum is chock full of Commie clowns and stooges? Why aren't they at DU, KOS, or HuffPo?
"Would you just go suck a c*ck and get it over with already?" war posted on 2011-10-12 11:14:27 ET
I think that it's important for the Tea Barfbag party to have a plumber as it's mascot in order to maintain historical consistency with it's big brother party.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
A CODE 69 IN PROGRESS ON LF SUSPECT WHITE, FRAIL, BALDING OLD MAN, 5'4", APPROX 80-90 YEARS OLD LAST SEEN MIS-SPELLING THE WORD "TO". HE SPELLED IT "TOO", INSTEAD APPREHEND - IF NECESSARY, SHOOT ON SIGHT! __________________________________________________________________________________________ Joe the Plumber WAS a plumber. Joe the Plumber also cleaned 0bama's clock, inducing him to admit he was a Communist whose goal was the "spread the wealth around." Somebody please tell me again why this forum is chock full of Commie clowns and stooges? Why aren't they at DU, KOS, or HuffPo? I don't mean any disrespect to our host, but I'm going to tell it like it is. Our nation is in big trouble, she needs us, she needs us "UNITED" more than ever in history, and as long as people like our friend Stone thinks he can placate both sides in this fight, uniting ourselves just ain't going to happen, you don't give the enemy a soap box in your home to spew his anti-American hate, not matter how unfair you might think this is, their views and what they want to turn this nation into is what we are fighting to prevent. We either want to win this fight, uniting our people in numbers that can move mountains, or spend our days logging in and watch more of the same division, disruption and hate these pathetic fascists are spreading. If they had come here to learn, these liberals, then they would have learned something after all these years, that should tell anyone today they have no intention of listening, or learning, or even civily debating, it is either their way, the fascist way, or the highway. JMHO!
Did your lobotomy leave any scars?
So you don't think he does plumbing work? What is your job? To sit on your ass all day and collect welfare and food stamps?
Our nation is in big trouble, she needs us, she needs us "UNITED" more than ever in history... ...and as long as people like our friend Stone thinks he can placate both sides in this fight, uniting ourselves just ain't going to happen, you don't give the enemy a soap box in your home to spew his anti-American hate, not matter how unfair you might think this is, their views and what they want to turn this nation into is what we are fighting to prevent. We either want to win this fight, uniting our people in numbers that can move mountains, or spend our days logging in and watch more of the same division, disruption and hate these pathetic fascists are spreading. If they had come here to learn, these liberals, then they would have learned something after all these years, that should tell anyone today they have no intention of listening, or learning, or even civily debating, it is either their way, the fascist way, or the highway. JMHO! BRAVO! You are 110% right. Is this a conservative forum OR a Commie toilet? What is it with Stone and his kumbaya Commie-fetish? Leftists are our enemy. They are here to promote Commie propaganda, sabotage conservatism, and underminecommon sense and American sovereignty. Must this vile scum be given a platform here to do so? THIS is the reason Liberty's Flame never gets traction.
"Would you just go suck a c*ck and get it over with already?" war posted on 2011-10-12 11:14:27 ET
It hasn't worked for you.
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
From you, Mammy? From Boofer?!? Okay...I'm game...learn WHAT from you exactly? That both of you are - barely - semi-literate? That both of you routinely lie your asses off? That you're a vindicative little snot who never has anything to say about the topic of any thread but plenty to say about the poster? We either want to win this fight, uniting our people in numbers that can move mountains, or spend our days logging in and watch more of the same division, disruption and hate these pathetic fascists are spreading. Wow...Mammy...if you hadn't spittled all over your chin that might have been arousing...
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
"Joe" worked (past tense) for a licensed plumber as a laborer is as best I can tell. I guess he no longer dreams of buying his bosses business with some imaginary money no bank would ever loan him.... I guess now "Joe" makes money sponging off the GOP activist base.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
Okay...I'm game...learn WHAT from you exactly? That both of you are - barely - semi-literate? That both of you routinely lie your asses off? That you're a vindicative little snot who never has anything to say about the topic of any thread but plenty to say about the poster? In the beginning, our young nation was iliterate and simi-literate, they never had the advantages and tools to educate themselves we have today, but we have them today because of these "ILITERATE", backwater, ragtag people. They brought themselves together to form a nation "UNDER GOD", they were smart enough, and brave enough, to put their differences aside to write, and put their john hancocks to the Declaration of Independence, a document charging King George with offences and crimes against our people, and to back it up with WAR to defend it. They were a pathetic lot, you'd be hard pressed to find two that could read or write. Not one man who penned his name to the US Constitution was a perfect man, there is no such creature and never will be, they may have been iliterate and backwards by todays standards, but they were brave enough and smart enough to know how to put their differences aside and create a document that was to protect our God given rights as humans, and even smarter know there would be traitors (present company accepted) who would do anything to destroy this precious document. You whine about me attacking some posters instead of addressing the issue at hand, well I'll tell you, the issue at hand is our Republic, something you and your big government loving socialist pigs would not understand, nor do any of you wish to, your mission is to tear this nation apart and re-create one tyrants like Che, Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler would have loved. There are those here who defend the right of women to murder unborn babies, by the millions because they had a accident and want to get rid of it. There are those here who shred our Bible and Gods word in favor of perverts who commit abominations because it feels good. No one knows better what is happening in this nation than the elder Poles, the Jews, Gypsies, Slavs and so on, who have been there, and live to tell about it. I know about most of what is discussed here than you will ever be privy to, but it's not the issues I avoid, most who count know exactly where I stand, it's just that I don't like you, I don't care for anything about you, If there were a better word to use than 'loathe', I would it to discribe how I feel about you, beneath contempt is where you are, you put yourself there, along with all these other low and commom anti-Americans, you deserve nothing more than contempt, and you will receive nothing from me but contempt. But don't feel like the lone ranger, you are not alone. The day you EVER pull your ignorant head out of your ass and do something, anything, as historical and of importance as our 'iliterate' founding fathers did, that will be the day you can boast, until then, you are an insulting little putz, a pisher no one pays attention to, who's twilight years are being spent in pissing contests on obscure websites...you have learned nothing, you have contributed to nothing that will make the lives of future generations better, or save our country from the hands of it's enemies. JMHO
They brought themselves together to form a nation "UNDER GOD", they were smart enough, and brave enough, to put their differences aside to write, and put their john hancocks to the Declaration of Independence, a document charging King George with offences and crimes against our people, and to back it up with WAR to defend it. They were a pathetic lot, you'd be hard pressed to find two that could read or write. Not one man who penned his name to the US Constitution was a perfect man, there is no such creature and never will be, they may have been iliterate and backwards by todays standards, but they were brave enough and smart enough to know how to put their differences aside and create a document that was to protect our God given rights as humans, and even smarter know there would be traitors (present company accepted) who would do anything to destroy this precious document. You whine about me attacking some posters instead of addressing the issue at hand, well I'll tell you, the issue at hand is our Republic, something you and your big government loving socialist pigs would not understand, nor do any of you wish to, your mission is to tear this nation apart and re-create one tyrants like Che, Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler would have loved. There are those here who defend the right of women to murder unborn babies, by the millions because they had a accident and want to get rid of it. There are those here who shred our Bible and Gods word in favor of perverts who commit abominations because it feels good. No one knows better what is happening in this nation than the elder Poles, the Jews, Gypsies, Slavs and so on, who have been there, and live to tell about it. I know about most of what is discussed here than you will ever be privy to, but it's not the issues I avoid, most who count know exactly where I stand, it's just that I don't like you, I don't care for anything about you, If there were a better word to use than 'loathe', I would it to discribe how I feel about you, beneath contempt is where you are, you put yourself there, along with all these other low and commom anti-Americans, you deserve nothing more than contempt, and you will receive nothing from me but contempt. But don't feel like the lone ranger, you are not alone. The day you EVER pull your ignorant head out of your ass and do something, anything, as historical and of importance as our 'iliterate' founding fathers did, that will be the day you can boast, until then, you are an insulting little putz, a pisher no one pays attention to, who's twilight years are being spent in pissing contests on obscure websites...you have learned nothing, you have contributed to nothing that will make the lives of future generations better, or save our country from the hands of it's enemies. JMHO __________________________________________________________________________________________ You're out of your mind. The Founders and Framers of this nation were all very highly educated. If you read the letters of Adams and Jefferson alone, you will discover them to be replete with references to Locke, Hobbes, Calvin, Plato etc etc etc. They brought themselves together to form a nation "UNDER GOD", Yet, oddly, left that fact out of any of the public documents that they produced. they were smart enough, and brave enough, to put their differences aside to write, and put their john [sic] hancocks[sic] to the Declaration of Independence, a document charging King George with offences [sic] and crimes against our people, and to back it up with WAR to defend it. They were a pathetic lot,[cs] you'd be hard pressed to find two that could read or write. The man who wrote that document was Thomas Jeferson, a man whose literary output included a journal of species of birds of the colonies, a bible that omitted any reference to the mystical God or Jesus, and A Summary of Rights of the British American. John Adams was a lawyer. John Hancock graduated from Boston Latin and Harvard. Josiah Bartlett was a physician. Caesar Rodney was a lawyer. The list goes on and it should be personally embarrasssing to you that you know so little about them and would mischaracterize such learned men as illiterate. I know about most of what is discussed here than you will ever be privy to Wha...huh? Everything that is discussed here is visible to everyone. You're no more privy to it than any one else. but it's not the issues I avoid, most who count know exactly where I stand, it's just that I don't like you, I don't care for anything about you, If there were a better word to use than 'loathe', I would it to discribe how I feel about you, beneath contempt is where you are, you put yourself there, along with all these other low and commom [sic] anti-Americans, you deserve nothing more than contempt, and you will receive nothing from me but contempt. I'm deeply hurt. [snicker] Do you really believe that I give a flying fuck what you may ***think*** about me Mammy? Seriously, by what MAJOR malfunction of the chemical reactions inside of that roomy cranium of yours would you believe that I would care even a canary sized shit about the visceral sensations that you get from people on the internet? You know absolutely diddly over squat about me. You have no idea how I live my life or who I really am or what I do. IN fact, and here's a helpful hint...LESS IS MORE in terms of what we want to know about YOUR life.
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
You, too, believe that Adams, Jefferson, Hancock etc etc etc couldn't read or write? Pardon me for mistaking you as someone with [a modicum] of intelligence. It won't happen again. I promise.
Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
Nice rant, but the dwarf isn't worth the time to read, let alone respond to. The filter works well.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
My God, mammy, learn how to spell or shut up!
------------------------------------- And you can bet she plagiarized it from some even dumber, 'iliterate' fool.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
I admire Murron's passion. I've been posting on various boards since the Clinton Administration. I was very naive when I began in that I thought most people would - if given facts and logic - have enough of an open mind to at least consider other viewpoints. I learned early on that wasn't the case - at least 90 to 95 percent of the time. Most people (and I'll include myself in this) are pretty much set in their ways and comfortable with their beliefs. After I absorbed that truism, I looked at the time spent on political chit-chat sites as strictly entertainment. Oh, I still learn something from time to time, and I have changed at least some of my viewpoints. (believe it or not). But I still applaud passion on the conservative side when I see it. I'll leave the "nit-picking" and "fact-checking" to others - you, perhaps.
__________________________________________________________________________________________ The filter works well. I pinged you to his post because he mentioned you, but I spoke only for myself. I could have put him on filter but that is not what I wanted, I had my say and now I feel better, but I'm sure war would agree with you, I'll bet he'd rather I put his arrogant ass on filter too.
You can take this as constructive criticism. Or not. When you use flames like "mammy" or "boofer" (since you didn't coin those), it suggests you are simply a follower, since someone else (who has many faults, but lack of creativity isn't one of them) came up with them. If that's your intent, then fine. Just thought I'd point it out.
__________________________________________________________________________________________ The shoe fit.
------------------------------------- Since her premise is wrong, all her passion is misplaced and appears foolish. Is that really a 'good conservative' stance ?
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
You left a few people out of the PING box of that little bit of moralizing, dude. I would also challenge you to find any flame/name calling/diversion etc that was initiated by me. The first thing that you should be applauding is reality. All else may then follow. Thanks. Love, Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestJoe, "The Plumber" is neither named "Joe" nor a licensed plumber.
#15. To: Godwinson (#14)
You must hold a state license do Electrical, HVAC, Refrigeration, Plumbing, or Hydronics work in Ohio.
#16. To: Godwinson (#14)
Why are you stupid
#17. To: Skip Intro (#16)
#18. To: A K A Stone (#15)
#19. To: Skip Intro (#18)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)
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#21. To: A K A Stone (#19)
(Edited)
#22. To: Skip Intro (#21)
Is licensing a doctor another one of those unconstitutional laws?
#23. To: A K A Stone (#15)
I can do any plumbing work a "licensed" plumber can.
#24. To: Fred Mertz (#23)
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#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)
#26. To: Fred Mertz (#25)
#27. To: Fred Mertz (#23)
#28. To: Skip Intro (#27)
It's simply a ball and chain coordination thing.
#29. To: Fred Mertz (#28)
#30. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro (#15)
lol. I do plumbing work all the time. I can do any plumbing work a "licensed" plumber can.
#31. To: Fred Mertz (#23)
My toilet bowl isn't flushing properly. I have to hold the flush handle down for 4 seconds. Any suggestions?
#32. To: All (#31)
#33. To: Godwinson (#30)
A K A, why is it important to you that "Joe the plumber" be considered an actual plumber? Is it because once revealed he is not a plumber than he is exposed as just being a delusional cult member of the GOP prosperity/racialist/end times cult?
#34. To: Fred Mertz (#25)
You're an a-hole and a sheister too boot!
9-1-1, 9-1-1 CALL THE SPELLING POLICE
EASTER ISLAND MYSTERY - - SOLVED!!
#35. To: Liberator, A K A Stone, ALL (#32)
Good heavens...After not only noting the subject if this thread, then reading several of LF's Commies' posts, I believe my own IQ has dropped a full ten points.
#36. To: mininggold (#33)
I think that it's important for the Tea Barfbag party to have a plumber as it's mascot in order to maintain historical consistency with it's big brother party.
#37. To: Godwinson (#30)
be considered an actual plumber?
#38. To: Murron, A K A Stone (#35)
I'm going to tell it like it is.
#39. To: Liberator (#31)
Have you tried uncorking your head out of the toilet?
#40. To: Murron (#35)
If they had come here to learn...
#41. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro (#37)
So you don't think he does plumbing work?
#42. To: war, Badeye, A K A Stone (#40)
From you, Mammy? From Boofer?!?
#43. To: Murron (#42)
In the beginning, our young nation was iliterate and simi-literate, they never had the advantages and tools to educate themselves we have today, but we have them today because of these "ILITERATE", backwater, ragtag people.
EASTER ISLAND MYSTERY - - SOLVED!!
#44. To: Murron (#42)
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In the beginning, our young nation was iliterate [sic eye roll] and simi[sic eyeroll]-literate[sic eyeroll], they never had the advantages and tools to educate themselves we have today, but we have them today because of these "ILITERATE" [sic], backwater, ragtag people.
#45. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#43)
(Edited)
#46. To: Murron (#42)
#47. To: Murron (#42)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#48. To: war (#44)
You're out of your mind. The Founders and Framers of this nation were all very highly educated. If you read the letters of Adams and Jefferson alone, you will discover them to be replete with references to Locke, Hobbes, Calvin, Plato etc etc etc.
#49. To: war, Murron (#45)
EASTER ISLAND MYSTERY - - SOLVED!!
#50. To: Badeye (#46)
Nice rant, but the dwarf isn't worth the time to read, let alone respond to.
#51. To: Biff Tannen, war (#47)
My God, mammy . . .
EASTER ISLAND MYSTERY - - SOLVED!!
#52. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#51)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#53. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#49)
But I still applaud passion on the conservative side when I see it.
#54. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#51)
The Mean Old Nasty Dwarf.
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