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Title: Plumbers send Joe down the drain
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65746.html
Published: Oct 12, 2011
Author: PATRICK GAVIN
Post Date: 2011-10-12 13:55:54 by Skip Intro
Keywords: None
Views: 59428
Comments: 107

As Joe Wurzelbacher, aka “Joe the Plumber,” looks for support for a possible congressional run, he won’t find a lot of backing in one particular demographic: Plumbers.

Some of the nation’s most notable plumbing trade organizations are reacting to news of Wurzelbacher’s run with disinterest or, in one case, disgust.

Rick Terven, Sr. is with The United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry of the United States and Canada (know simply as “UA” to the 340,000 members it claims) and writes POLITICO in an email:

“As you know both Dennis Kucinich and Marcy Kaptor are also considering this race and have stood by working families time and time again. In doing so they both have earned the strong support of our members in Ohio. ‘Joe the Plumber’ may have played a part in the 2008 election story, but we know that the plumbers of the United Association and all other plumbers who care about working people will continue to support either Democratic nominee, not ‘Joe the Plumber.’

“‘Joe the Plumber’ does not represent the United Association nor our union members in any way. This is someone who appears to care more about being a celebrity than actually helping working families.”

It was revealed this week that Wurzelbacher filed papers for a potential House run in northern Ohio, although he has yet to make a final decision.

Jim Kendzel is the Executive Director and CEO of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers and hadn’t heard of Wurzelbacher’s run until POLITICO’s phone call. And he didn’t seem moved by it either way, saying: “We encourage all of our members to be active in legislative and code process both at the local and state and federal level promoting good plumbing, engineering practices.”

But as for Wurzelbacher, specifically?

“We really don’t have any comment related to that.”

Well, except on one minor detail: “I don’t believe he’s actually a plumber.”

Kendzel’s right. Wurzelbacher rose to prominence during the 2008 campaign between Barack Obama and John McCain and earned the moniker “Joe the Plumber,” even though it was subsequently revealed that he wasn’t a licensed plumber.

It’s a distinction that’s not lost on the plumbing community.

“I don’t think he’s actually licensed,” said Charlotte Perham, senior director of communications for the Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association, which bills itself on its website as “the oldest trade association in the construction industry.”

“I don’t know a lot about him,” said Perham, although she did know that “he’s not a member of our organization.”

“At this point, we don’t have any comment.”

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#1. To: Skip Intro (#0)

OMG! UNION THUGS OPPOSE
A CONSERVATIVE/REPUBLICAN

Film @ 11!

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Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-10-12   14:02:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#1)

Personally, I hope he runs. With Palin gone and Bachmann fading there's an opening for another idiot.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   14:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Skip Intro (#2)

Personally, I hope he runs. With Palin gone and Bachmann fading there's an opening for another idiot.

Two things:

One, What EXACTLY did he do that was idiotic, and

Two, what defines "idiot" in your world.

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Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-10-12   14:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#3)

One, What EXACTLY did he do that was idiotic, and

1) He isn't a plumber

2) He never was going to buy a plumbing business

3) The tax increase on incomes over $250,000 was never going to affect him

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   14:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Skip Intro (#4)

All rightly then...

Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]

war  posted on  2011-10-12   14:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#5)

So he's totally qualified to run for Congress as a Republican. If Christine O'Donnell was qualified, so is Joe the unplumber.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   14:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Skip Intro (#4)

1) He isn't a plumber

2) He never was going to buy a plumbing business

3) The tax increase on incomes over $250,000 was never going to affect him

1. From what I know about JTP (which admittedly isn't a lot), it is my understanding he was working AS a plumber (but did not have a plumbing license - which may or may not be problematic depending on the local codes where one resides). Someone early on (after his momentous chance meeting with candidate Obama when he asked THE question) referred to him as "Joe the Plumber" and it stuck.

Look on the bright side - at least he wasn't practicing medicine. The he would have been "Joe the Doctor."

2 and 3. This is where you may be on shaky ground. If you or I were ever thrust into the national spotlight, it's a safe bet to say our lives would be changed immeasurably - and any plans we might have had would be put on permanent hold.

Who knows? He may have gone on to get his license and ended up owning a plumbing business - IF - he had not asked "THE QUESTION".

And if the business was successful, $250,000 was not out of the question.

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Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-10-12   14:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Skip Intro (#6)

My thought exactly...it was like you had shifted gears...

Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]

war  posted on  2011-10-12   14:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#7)

Look, I hope he runs, particularly in Ohio. He'd be perfect there.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   14:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Skip Intro (#9)

Look, I hope he runs, particularly in Ohio. He'd be perfect there.

Chyea...like...oh...say...the Ohio 2nd...

Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]

war  posted on  2011-10-12   15:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Skip Intro, Get Outta Dodge! (#2)

Joe, "The Plumber" is neither named "Joe" nor a licensed plumber.

"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-12   15:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Skip Intro (#4)

1) He isn't a plumber

You show that you are a dumb ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   18:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Godwinson (#11)

Joe, "The Plumber" is neither named "Joe" nor a licensed plumber.

You don't need to be licensed to be a plumber.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   18:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

Joe, "The Plumber" is neither named "Joe" nor a licensed plumber.

You don't need to be licensed to be a plumber.

Yes you do. Why are you stupid?

http://www.contractors-license.org/oh/Ohio.html

You must hold a state license do Electrical, HVAC, Refrigeration, Plumbing, or Hydronics work in Ohio.

"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-12   19:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Godwinson (#14)

You must hold a state license do Electrical, HVAC, Refrigeration, Plumbing, or Hydronics work in Ohio.

lol. I do plumbing work all the time. I can do any plumbing work a "licensed" plumber can.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   19:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Godwinson (#14)

Why are you stupid

You have to ask?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   19:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro (#16)

You are a follower. Not a leader. No wonder you are so covetous.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   19:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#15)

You just can't do it legally. You don't sound any different from an illegal alien.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   19:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Skip Intro (#18)

You liberals can take your fake unconstitutional laws and stick them up your asses.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   19:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited)

There are laws to protect people from incompetent turds like you. Do you tell the people you do work for you don't have a license? Do you carry insurance?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   19:45:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited)

Do you go to unlicensed doctors? Is licensing a doctor another one of those unconstitutional laws?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   19:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Skip Intro (#21)

Is licensing a doctor another one of those unconstitutional laws?

Of course.

Licensing if any should be voluntary. Then you can choose who you want.

I've been doing this since 96. I've never had a plumbing job call back. Ever. I do complete bathroom and kitchen remodeling.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   20:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#15)

I can do any plumbing work a "licensed" plumber can.

My toilet bowl isn't flushing properly. I have to hold the flush handle down for 4 seconds. Any suggestions?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-12   21:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Fred Mertz (#23) (Edited)

Get some fishing sinkers and tie them to your float.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   21:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)

Now I know what you're about.

It's simply a ball and chain coordination thing. A ten dollar item.

And you want me to buy a new toilet.

You're an a-hole and a sheister too boot!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-12   21:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Fred Mertz (#25)

No. I want you to get your tackle box out.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-12   21:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#23)

It's obvious that your drain is clogged. I suggest a single shotgun shell fired into the bowl to unplug the blockage.

Where should I send the bill?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   21:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Skip Intro (#27)

It's simply a ball and chain coordination thing.

It's irritating but not the end of the world.

Your solution is cheaper that Aka Stoner's.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-12   21:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz (#28)

Skip Intro's Internet Plumbing Service - You Do the Work, I Send the Bill.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-12   21:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro (#15)

lol. I do plumbing work all the time. I can do any plumbing work a "licensed" plumber can.

A K A, why is it important to you that "Joe the plumber" be considered an actual plumber? Is it because once revealed he is not a plumber than he is exposed as just being a delusional cult member of the GOP prosperity/racialist/end times cult?

"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-12   22:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#23)

My toilet bowl isn't flushing properly. I have to hold the flush handle down for 4 seconds. Any suggestions?

Have you tried uncorking your head out of the toilet?

"Would you just go suck a c*ck and get it over with already?" war posted on 2011-10-12 11:14:27 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-12   23:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: All (#31)

Good heavens...After not only noting the subject if this thread, then reading several of LF's Commies' posts, I believe my own IQ has dropped a full ten points.

Joe the Plumber WAS a plumber. Joe the Plumber also cleaned 0bama's clock, inducing him to admit he was a Communist whose goal was the "spread the wealth around."

Somebody please tell me again why this forum is chock full of Commie clowns and stooges? Why aren't they at DU, KOS, or HuffPo?

"Would you just go suck a c*ck and get it over with already?" war posted on 2011-10-12 11:14:27 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-12   23:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Godwinson (#30)

A K A, why is it important to you that "Joe the plumber" be considered an actual plumber? Is it because once revealed he is not a plumber than he is exposed as just being a delusional cult member of the GOP prosperity/racialist/end times cult?

I think that it's important for the Tea Barfbag party to have a plumber as it's mascot in order to maintain historical consistency with it's big brother party.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-12   23:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Fred Mertz (#25)

You're an a-hole and a sheister too boot!

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Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-10-12   23:59:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator, A K A Stone, ALL (#32)

Good heavens...After not only noting the subject if this thread, then reading several of LF's Commies' posts, I believe my own IQ has dropped a full ten points.

Joe the Plumber WAS a plumber. Joe the Plumber also cleaned 0bama's clock, inducing him to admit he was a Communist whose goal was the "spread the wealth around."

Somebody please tell me again why this forum is chock full of Commie clowns and stooges? Why aren't they at DU, KOS, or HuffPo?

I don't mean any disrespect to our host, but I'm going to tell it like it is.

Our nation is in big trouble, she needs us, she needs us "UNITED" more than ever in history, and as long as people like our friend Stone thinks he can placate both sides in this fight, uniting ourselves just ain't going to happen, you don't give the enemy a soap box in your home to spew his anti-American hate, not matter how unfair you might think this is, their views and what they want to turn this nation into is what we are fighting to prevent. We either want to win this fight, uniting our people in numbers that can move mountains, or spend our days logging in and watch more of the same division, disruption and hate these pathetic fascists are spreading. If they had come here to learn, these liberals, then they would have learned something after all these years, that should tell anyone today they have no intention of listening, or learning, or even civily debating, it is either their way, the fascist way, or the highway. JMHO!

Murron  posted on  2011-10-13   0:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold (#33)

I think that it's important for the Tea Barfbag party to have a plumber as it's mascot in order to maintain historical consistency with it's big brother party.

Did your lobotomy leave any scars?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-13   6:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Godwinson (#30)

be considered an actual plumber?

So you don't think he does plumbing work?

What is your job? To sit on your ass all day and collect welfare and food stamps?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-13   6:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Murron, A K A Stone (#35)

I'm going to tell it like it is.

Our nation is in big trouble, she needs us, she needs us "UNITED" more than ever in history...

...and as long as people like our friend Stone thinks he can placate both sides in this fight, uniting ourselves just ain't going to happen, you don't give the enemy a soap box in your home to spew his anti-American hate, not matter how unfair you might think this is, their views and what they want to turn this nation into is what we are fighting to prevent.

We either want to win this fight, uniting our people in numbers that can move mountains, or spend our days logging in and watch more of the same division, disruption and hate these pathetic fascists are spreading. If they had come here to learn, these liberals, then they would have learned something after all these years, that should tell anyone today they have no intention of listening, or learning, or even civily debating, it is either their way, the fascist way, or the highway. JMHO!

BRAVO! You are 110% right.

Is this a conservative forum OR a Commie toilet?

What is it with Stone and his kumbaya Commie-fetish? Leftists are our enemy. They are here to promote Commie propaganda, sabotage conservatism, and underminecommon sense and American sovereignty.

Must this vile scum be given a platform here to do so?

THIS is the reason Liberty's Flame never gets traction.

"Would you just go suck a c*ck and get it over with already?" war posted on 2011-10-12 11:14:27 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-13   8:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Liberator (#31)

Have you tried uncorking your head out of the toilet?

It hasn't worked for you.

Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]

war  posted on  2011-10-13   8:58:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Murron (#35)

If they had come here to learn...

From you, Mammy? From Boofer?!?

Okay...I'm game...learn WHAT from you exactly? That both of you are - barely - semi-literate? That both of you routinely lie your asses off? That you're a vindicative little snot who never has anything to say about the topic of any thread but plenty to say about the poster?

We either want to win this fight, uniting our people in numbers that can move mountains, or spend our days logging in and watch more of the same division, disruption and hate these pathetic fascists are spreading.

Wow...Mammy...if you hadn't spittled all over your chin that might have been arousing...

Stay Thirsty My Friends...[some guy in a commercial who claims to not always drink beer but who is always seen drinking beer]

war  posted on  2011-10-13   9:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro (#37)

So you don't think he does plumbing work?

"Joe" worked (past tense) for a licensed plumber as a laborer is as best I can tell. I guess he no longer dreams of buying his bosses business with some imaginary money no bank would ever loan him.... I guess now "Joe" makes money sponging off the GOP activist base.

"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-13   9:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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