#2. To: A K A Stone, bad eye, capitalist eric, liberator (#1)(Edited)
If it is Romney vs Obama. What do you do sit home and let Obama be reelected?
I'll do the same thing I did in 88, 92, 04, and 08 -- find a third party candidate I like and vote for him.
I'm not voting for another liberal Republican. Liberal Republicans are worse than liberal Democrats because we don't have any defense again them.
If Obama is reelected and further wrecks the economy, it will provide clarity to the voters.
If Romney is elected and fails to implement sufficient reforms to really improve the economy, it provides a muddled message to the voters, i.e., the GOP is no better than the Democrats.
#3. To: jwpegler, A K A Stone, badeye, capitalist eric, Sebastian, Get Outta Dodge!!, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, murron, nolu chan, buckeroo, e_type_jag, CZ82 (#2)(Edited)
If it is Romney vs Obama. What do you do sit home and let Obama be reelected?
I'll do the same thing I did in 88, 92, 04, and 08 -- find a third party candidate I like and vote for him.
I'm not voting for another liberal Republican. Liberal Republicans are worse than liberal Democrats because we don't have any defense again them.
If Obama is reelected and further wrecks the economy, it will provide clarity to the voters.
I do understand and actually agree with your deconstruction of how our votes for statist/liberal GOP candidates has actually undermined conservatism. I understand how that blind partisanship shuts down opposition to GOP statist policies...
That said, I believe we've already been provided the kind of "clarity" as to who and what 0bama is: A COMMUNIST. We have *never* been faced with a second Presidential term governed by a Communist regime - never mind the first destructive phase. To be honest, we can not nor will we survive the second without blood running in the streets and a total dismantling of the Republic.
I realize some of you might believe it's better to tear down the rotted corpse and start anew, but there is no way this leads anyway, anyhow to a seamless transition of constitutional governance.
QUESTION #1: Can conservatism re-take the GOP and reinstate constitutional law under a Romney regime?
QUESTION #2: Aren't the odds far higher that we do so THIS time around (after having seen the degree of destruction of 0bama's Commie regime?)
Sure, we been given a scripted choice for President, but IMO, the odds are far better of turning things around under Romney. There is not nearly the degree of naivete and ignorance as when fake conservative Dubya Bush was foisted upon us.
Look Mildred!!! NIGGERS!!!! war posted on 2011-10-03 14:29:18 ET
I've never particularly cared for career politicians but second and third generation career politicians really grate on me. Too much like an aristocracy for my taste.
I don't know that I can vote for either one.
Look Mildred!!! NIGGERS!!!! war posted on 2011-10-03 14:29:18 ET
If it is Romney vs Obama. What do you do sit home and let Obama be reelected? He will put the pedal the the metal.
0bama's been doing just that for the last six months. His policies during next year or so are going to be even more insane than usual.
The Kenyan is like Satan - he knows his days are numbered, so he'll try and create the maximum amount of chaos while he still can. His treasonous 'Fast and Furious' failed, but he still has his OWS, aka 'Operation: Chaos'. I expect at least a couple of False Flag events.
Look Mildred!!! NIGGERS!!!! war posted on 2011-10-03 14:29:18 ET
I've never particularly cared for career politicians but second and third generation career politicians really grate on me. Too much like an aristocracy for my taste.
I agree with you...
But the alternative is Kenyan II.
What level of "grate" does that rate?
Look Mildred!!! NIGGERS!!!! war posted on 2011-10-03 14:29:18 ET
Sure, we been given a scripted choice for President, but IMO, the odds are far better of turning things around under Romney. There is not nearly the degree of naivete and ignorance as when fake conservative Dubya Bush was foisted upon us.
I agree.
But 'far better' is relative to Øbama's performance and may not be nearly enough to right this country's direction.
It's just hard for me to trust a career, second-generation, politician.
Look Mildred!!! NIGGERS!!!! war posted on 2011-10-03 14:29:18 ET
We simply can't afford Owe-bama unfettered completely, knowing he'll never face the voters again.
So, do you think that the GOP House will cave in and give Obama whatever he wants in his second term?
I don't.
We learned under Clinton that the GOP House CAN be trusted when there is a Democrat President. We also learned that the GOP House CANNOT be trusted when there is a Republican President.
We will be better off with a Democrat President than a Liberal Republican, so long as the GOP keeps control of the House. It's better that nothing at all gets done than more GOP-initiated spending.
I've never particularly cared for career politicians but second and third generation career politicians really grate on me. Too much like an aristocracy for my taste.
I completely agree. The GOP already has a low budget version of the Kennedy clan, called the Bush family. They don't need another one.
The other thing that I don't like is all of these east coast Ivy League types, who got everything handed to them (either through family connections or affirmative action) monopolizing the political process.
The Bush's went to Yale. Romney got an MBA and JD from Harvard. Reagan went Eureka College. Cain went to Morris Brown College. Gingrich went to Emory University.
As skeptical I am of Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich, I would vote for either of them if they got the GOP nomination, because at least they both started with nothing and worked hard to make something of themselves.
As skeptical I am of Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich, I would vote for either of them if they got the GOP nomination
I could vote for Cain.
A self-made millionaire, former Chairman and Member of the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, successful CEO, not a career politician nor spawned from one and neither a lawyer nor an AAEOD poster child..
Nothing there that disqualifies him from getting my vote.
Look Mildred!!! NIGGERS!!!! war posted on 2011-10-03 14:29:18 ET
realize some of you might believe it's better to tear down the rotted corpse and start anew, but there is no way this leads anyway, anyhow to a seamless transition of constitutional governance.
QUESTION #1: Can conservatism re-take the GOP and reinstate constitutional law under a Romney regime?
NO.
Romney=Perry=Cain=Obama.
No matter who you vote for, the path will NOT change, because they're all elitists who are owned lock, stock and barrel. Any differences are superficial, without enough difference to make one stand out over the others.
QUESTION #2: Aren't the odds far higher that we do so THIS time around (after having seen the degree of destruction of 0bama's Commie regime?)
Not under ANY of the establishment candidates.
I'll vote for Ron Paul, thank you very much.
Will he win? I don't know.
But if he does not win, then the rest of the USA most assuredly will LOSE.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
Ah, 'they' were DeLay, Hastert, and Frist in the Senate.
And Bush gave THEM carete blanche.
Thats why they didn't like Boehner (Hastert, DeLay). He voted against a lot of it. And never came out publicly in support of those monsterous budgets.
The bottom line is still the same here. We have to get Owe-bama out next year. Seriously, it frightens me what this idiot might do without having to face the voters again.
Bush I was sold to us as Reagan's heir apparent. I new that this was nonsense from the beginning, so I never voted for the SOB.
Yes, that was the marketing, but how many conservatives really bought in to Poppy's "compassionate conservative" RINO/Statist lingo? Not many.
Moreover, Dukakis was Option "B."
Then they sold us on the notion that Bush II was more like Reagan than his dad.
I agree - more marketing BS. But Dubya ran against Bubba's VP - Algore....and then Kerry. That's called a "checkmate."
The same people who sold us on the two Bush's are now selling us on Romney. We already know that Romney is a flip-flopping waffler.
At his worst, Romney is 100x better than the Commie who hates America. I am NOT giving that America-hating Marxist mofo dictating Kenyan racist another 4 years.
Principle was not voting during the last election; Our point has been made. THIS time around pragmatism is nothing to be ashamed of.
Look Mildred!!! NIGGERS!!!! war posted on 2011-10-03 14:29:18 ET
We learned under Clinton that the GOP House CAN be trusted when there is a Democrat President. We also learned that the GOP House CANNOT be trusted when there is a Republican President.
We learned that pre-Tea Party, Republicans voted like lemmings for RINO/Globalist causes. AND we learned that Dubya was a Dem in Republican clothing.
If you gave Reagan a GOP House, he'd have kicked major liberal azz.
During Bubba's regime, they [the GOP] gained an upper hand in the Congress and hammered through positive legislation that Clinton was forced to adopt, but ultimately embrace it.
We will be better off with a Democrat President than a Liberal Republican, so long as the GOP keeps control of the House.
You're forgetting about EOs, various cabinet positions and agendas, czar appointments, and SCOTUS appointments, aren't you?
Look Mildred!!! NIGGERS!!!! war posted on 2011-10-03 14:29:18 ET
At his worst, Romney is 100x better than the Commie who hates America. I am NOT giving that America-hating Marxist mofo dictating Kenyan racist another 4 years.
Romneycare is what Obamacare was based on. And Romney is proud of that.
I'll roast in Hell, before Romney ever gets my vote.
Principle was not voting during the last election; Our point has been made. THIS time around pragmatism is nothing to be ashamed of.
Let's face facts, that this is the kind of moral relativism that got us where we are, now. .... Building "consensus," by being (as you put it) "pragmatic."
My signature for my work email, is the following:
To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects. --Margaret Thatcher --
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#45. To: Liberator, badeye, capitalist eric, sneakypete (#35)(Edited)
We learned that pre-Tea Party, Republicans voted like lemmings for RINO/Globalist causes.
No, the House GOP did a good job under Clinton -- forcing him to cut the Capital Gains tax rate, reform welfare, and balance the budget.
The GOP was on FIRE in the mid-90s. EVERYONE was talking about RADICAL tax reform. The only question was whether we would move to a flat rate income tax or replace the income tax with a national sales tax after Clinton left office.
That all died under Bush and his GOP Congress as they embarked on Bill Kristol's "big government greatness" agenda.