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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: 'If you're not rich, don't blame Wall St, blame yourself': Herman Cain slams protesters for trying to cover up Obama's failures Source: Daily Mail Online URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... otesters-descend-New-York.html Published: Oct 5, 2011 Author: Mark Duell Post Date: 2011-10-05 16:49:13 by Sebastian Keywords: None Views: 4692 Comments: 23 New York protests centred in Manhattan's Zucotti Park now in third week Demonstrators angry at state of America's economic and political systems Organisers want students at college to walk out of class this afternoon Big march planned for Thursday on Freedom Plaza in Washington D.C. GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain has risked the wrath of Occupy Wall Street protesters by fuming that they are only holding demostrations to distract from President Obama's failed policies. The 65-year-old businessman told protesters: 'Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It is not someone's fault if they succeeded.' Meanwhile around $35,000 has now been sent to the protesters who have been camped out in Manhattan, New York, for almost three weeks now - angry at the state of U.S. politics and economics. Scroll down for video Herman Cain: 'Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It is not someone's fault if they succeeded' Today: Tevor Roulstin, left, from Durango, Colorado, stands with a sign at the Occupy Wall Street Protest in New York, while Racheal Davidson, right, signs a citation given to her by Dayton police officer P.T. Harris in Ohio Believing: Activists take part in a demonstration to protest against corporate greed near the Capitol Building in Washington D.C. on Wednesday 'I don't have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration,' Mr Cain told the Wall Street Journal. The protests are expected to swell with reinforcements as more groups head towards Zucotti Park, showing the demonstration that started out small is showing no signs of losing steam. ‘(The donations) are coming from everywhere,’ student Victoria Sobel, 21, who is on the group’s finance committee, told the New York Post. ‘I'm sure we're on the cusp of much larger donations.’ Among those planning to join the clamour on Wednesday are the liberal group MoveOn.org and community organisations like the Working Families Party and United NY. The growing crowd will also include members of the Chinatown Tenants Union and the Transit Workers Union. Pete Dutro, 36, who is also on the committee, told the New York Post they want to be 'transparent' and use the money 'effectively'. Famous support: Filmmaker Michael Moore was at the Occupy Wall Street camp in Manhattan on Tuesday Route: Commuters walk through the Zuccotti Park protest camp in the financial district on Tuesday Meanwhile organisers have called for students at college campuses across the nation to walk out of class in protest at 2pm on Wednesday. ‘They're capturing a feel of disempowerment, feeling like nobody is listening to them' United NY spokesman ‘They're capturing a feel of disempowerment, feeling like nobody is listening to them,’ a United NY spokesman said. ‘What do you do when no one is listening to you? You speak up, you take action.’ In addition organisers in Washington D.C. are planning a march at Freedom Plaza on Thursday. The groups will embark on yet another march in Manhattan, this one from Foley Square, which was named for ‘Big Tom’ Foley - a former blacksmith's helper who became a prominent Democrat. Message: The Occupy Wall Street protests in Zuccoti Park are in their third week now and a number of creative banners have been produced by demonstrators Spreading: Occupy Seattle protesters, who have taken the lead from those in New York, carry signs as they march on Tuesday The marchers will head to Zuccotti Park - the unofficial headquarters where protesters have been camped out in sleeping bags. Some organisers say thousands could show up to the march. 'We want to make sure we have ways of using the money effectively. We are trying to be transparent about it' Pete Dutro, 36 MoveOn.org is planning a ‘virtual march’ on its website by encouraging people to post photos of themselves with the caption: ‘I'm the 99 per cent’. This is a reference to those people not among the wealthiest one per cent of Americans and the debate over whether they should be taxed more. The group's executive director, Justin Ruben, called the protesters ‘brave young people’ who have successfully inspired others to join them. ‘From our perspective, we're protesting kind of the greed that led to the collapse of our economy,’ Mr Ruben said. ‘The fact that these banks aren't paying their fair share.’ Together: Occupy LA protesters shout slogans while holding placards during a late afternoon march through downtown Los Angeles, California, on Monday in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street protesters in New York Walking: More protesters shout slogans while holding placards during a march through Los Angeles on Monday Many of those who work on Wall Street don't take the protests personally. Some even sympathise. ‘It's really incredible to me, the passion and conviction these people have,’ said Lou Crossin, who works for a company that sells corporate governance research to large investors. '(The donations) are coming from everywhere. I'm sure we're on the cusp of much larger donations' Victoria Sobel, 21 ‘I don't think these are violent people. They're just standing up for their beliefs.’ Mr Crossin said the protesters - with their chanting in unison, leafleting and drum circles - reminded him of Jefferson Airplane song lyrics: ‘Look what's happening out in the streets. Got a revolution.’ Sam Schmidt, a lawyer who walks by the park in New York every day, said the protests took him back to when he was a student in 1970 and went to Washington D.C. to oppose the Vietnam war. ‘I lived through the '60s and the '70s, and this is nothing. I think it is well-behaved. We've got a few crazies, but we have a few crazies here anyway,’ he said. ‘It's just reminiscent of my youth.’ See video here (10 images) Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Sebastian (#0) Herman Cain is one of those richers who Jesus will kill and banish into the abyss when he returns in glory... "This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-05   16:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Sebastian (#0) Whats hilarious are Democrats aligning themselves with the brain dead here so openly. The disconnect the Dem Party has with the vast majority is simply staggering. Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao Badeye  posted on  2011-10-05   17:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Sebastian, *Tea Party On Parade* (#0) Stick with that message Hermy and lets see how it works for you in the general... {{{chuckle}}} Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'! Brian S  posted on  2011-10-05   17:16:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Sebastian (#0) 'If you're not rich, don't blame Wall St, blame yourself' Cain is misinterpreting the protesters. Like all leftists, they don't care about lifting people up. They only care about tearing other people down. Honest Socialism jwpegler  posted on  2011-10-05   18:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Sebastian (#0) Too bad there isn't someone at the protest holding a sign up saying "Everybody at this protest is a dumbass".... That would be the smartest thing anybody there said/thought!!!!!! "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! CZ82  posted on  2011-10-05   19:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Badeye (#2) What's hilarious is that Cain actually believes that. That people are unemployed because its their own fault. We just had a recession and we still have high unemployment. Of course people are going to have a hard time finding a job. NewsJunky  posted on  2011-10-05   19:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: CZ82 (#5) If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys ! BorisY  posted on  2011-10-06   0:03:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: NewsJunky (#6) Sorry, its on the person to find a job. Any job, while you keep looking to better yourself. The newspapers have listings each day for jobs. Not at the rate six years ago to be sure, but there are in fact 'jobs'. In hard economic times, you do what you need to do to make ends meet. Sometimes it means a 2nd job. Been there myself early in my life. What is worth noting is this Administration's economic policies, such as they are, simply have not worked. They were told repeatedly they would not work. No 'federal stimulus' ever does. Thats why the insane 'guarantee' unemployment would not exceed 8% as a result of the 'stimulus package' was simply dumb politics. All we did was increase the deficit by 3 trillion. And had the Owe-bama administration not change how unemployment is 'officially' calculated, the 'official' rate would be almost 12% nationally. Without the nonsensical politically driven 'formula' used in Washington, the actually unemployment rate nationally is close to 21%. They don't count those that have simply given up, they don't count college grads, the list of who isn't 'counted' is almost endless. And that occurs no matter which party is in the Whitehouse, to be crystal clear. but this administration changed the 'formula' to keep everyone from panicking, from private life to the stockmarket, to politics. Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao Badeye  posted on  2011-10-06   7:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: jwpegler (#4) So what camp was your tagline picture taken in ???? "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!! CZ82  posted on  2011-10-06   8:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Badeye, NewsJunky (#8) What is worth noting is this Administration's economic policies, such as they are, simply have not worked. They were told repeatedly they would not work. The main thrust of his economic policy has been to reduce the payroll witholding and to extend DumbDubv43's moronic tax cuts. The stimulus was 40% tax credits/cuts. The sectors that were targeted in the stimulus - housing, cars and construction - all reversed their downward spirals within a couple of onmths and, in fact, reversed course and ended DumbDub'sv43's recession. The problem is that the housing and auto components should have been left open ended. Of the three, only construction continues to expand. The stim worked. Period. It's moronic to argue otherwise. It's also moronic to argue the "8%" guarantee when, a) the analysis asterisked it to current projections - which were the projections of DumbDubv43's regime - which were too opitimistic and b) unemployment hit 8% even BEFORE the stim was passed. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-10-06   8:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: NewsJunky (#6) . That people are unemployed because its their own fault. It is their own fault. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-06   8:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: A K A Stone (#11) It is their own fault. So if a company goes under it's the workers' fault? America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-10-06   8:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: war (#12) It is their own fault. So if a company goes under it's the workers' fault? If they didn't do a good job, yes. If they stay unemployed for a long time it is their fault. I can find anyone a job in 1 weeks time. Unless they are handicapped or restarted. Find someone who needs a job and I will find them one. If I can't I give you 1000 dollars. If I can you give me 1000 dollars. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-06   8:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: war (#12) Sometimes you will lose a job through no fault of your own. But if you can't find another job it is because you don't want to find another job. You'd rather collect unemployment. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-06   8:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: A K A Stone (#14) But if you can't find another job it is because you don't want to find another job. You'd rather collect unemployment. Your evidence for this is what? America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-10-06   8:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: A K A Stone (#13) Find someone who needs a job and I will find them one. Paying what? America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-10-06   8:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: CZ82 (#9) Cambodia Honest Socialism jwpegler  posted on  2011-10-06   9:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: A K A Stone (#14) But if you can't find another job it is because you don't want to find another job. People who lose their jobs have three choices. A.) Find another one, even if it's not ideal. B.) Create your own job. A lot of people are doing this today. I did. My wife did. My best friend did. We are all doing pretty well. C.) Collect a government check and watch your belly grow. To the myopic left, the answer is always C. That's the problem. Honest Socialism jwpegler  posted on  2011-10-06   9:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: A K A Stone (#11) It is their own fault. So why do so many on the right blame Obama for 9% unemployment when its the fault of the unemployed for not finding jobs? Tagline for sale - inquire within go65  posted on  2011-10-06   9:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: jwpegler (#18) People who lose their jobs have three choices. A.) Find another one, even if it's not ideal. B.) Create your own job. A lot of people are doing this today. I did. My wife did. My best friend did. We are all doing pretty well. C.) Collect a government check and watch your belly grow. To the myopic left, the answer is always C. That's the problem. You forgot "D.) Blame Obama" Tagline for sale - inquire within go65  posted on  2011-10-06   9:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: go65, capitalist eric, badeye (#20) You forgot "D.) Blame Obama" The people who select option "C" are certainly inclined to blame someone or something else for their plight -- banks, corporations, "the rich", politicians, the Chinese, the Japanese, Indians, Mexicans, European debt, ATM machines, being anally probed by "Grey's" from Zeta Reticuli, and Obama too... Honest Socialism jwpegler  posted on  2011-10-06   9:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: jwpegler, go65 (#21) Note that he didn't address your question: So why do so many on the right blame Obama for 9% unemployment when its the fault of the unemployed for not finding jobs? America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-10-06   9:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: jwpegler (#21) I'll just note polls are showing Owe-bama is being blamed, and given the admission by this administration its not going to get any better between now and this time next year, they will fire him 'for cause' by a wider margin than Carter was in 1980. Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao Badeye  posted on  2011-10-06   10:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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