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Title: When The President Can Kill Who Ever He Wants, He's a King
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Published: Oct 3, 2011
Author: RonPaulFriends
Post Date: 2011-10-03 08:07:56 by Fibr Dog
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#1. To: Fibr Dog (#0)
Thank God Owe-bama didn't use non lethal waterboarding, right Liberals? rotflmao.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
This is a non-isssue - the USA has killed plenty of American citizens who fought against America, the confederacy is one example. German Americans who fought for Hitler is another and American citizen pirates (a more fitting example in al-Qaeda's case).
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
Thank you. There must be some other folks on LF who think the same. eh? ;}
rotflmao. What part of America since Katrina do you think we still have? When will the constitution mean something again? When will the USSA reverse it's 9/11 State of Emergency? Of course I can wait for crickets to evolve and move into Outer Space before you answer...now That's LMFAO 8D
What part of "waging war" are you missing here? This is the military equivalent of suicide by cop.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
;} And that's the reality. Insanity is guaranteed when reality is ignored. Happening on Wall St and DC as I type. Spreading like radiation from a nuclear meltdown. We really have only hours/days now. Hedge Funds are imploding as I type....;} See Paulson for details.
I don't dispute what you wrote here. But the issue is compared to the leftwingnuts insane pronouncements related to non lethal waterboarding, your DEFENSE of this action is hyterically funny, given the level of hypocrisy it represents. btw, nobody believes you guys on the Left would be saying this if Bush had ordered it. Another amusing aspect to this 'non issue' as you call it.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
If you ask a question thats remotely decipherable, I'll give it a go. This isn't. What does any of your mutterings here have to do with the rank hypocrisy of the Left screaming about non lethal waterboarding being a 'war crime' and the killing of an American citizen in another country via a drone strike, without a trial? Personally, I fully support Owe-bama's decision here. But its hilarious watching you clowns on the Left remain silent given the waterboarding is a war crime bullshit you toss at Bush and Cheney to this day.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Only a moron would equate what can happen ON the battlefield as justifying what can happen OFF of it. Kiling a combatant on the field of battle is 100% justifiable. Torturing him off of it is not.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
We never tortured Nazis and Japanese POWs why would you want to torture an American prisoner? If water boarding works why don't you support it as part of America's police efforts? Get arrested and have the police water board until you confess to a crime......
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
I see. So we should just kill em? lmao
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
The nail in Boofer's coffin is that were waterboarding done on a US soldier DumbDumbv43 would have protested the torture...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
you're lying....8D
I see. So we should just kill em? If an American killed a POW in his custody he would be up on murder charges. POW Geneva conventions apply. The human rights of prisoners both military and civilian are covered under several international treaties that the USA is signatory to as well as domestic laws.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
Sorry, you aren't worth the effort required to lie to.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Yep, and so far nobody has ruled 'waterboarding' to be illegal.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Nice lie Boofer... In the war crimes tribunals that followed Japan's defeat in World War II, the issue of waterboarding was sometimes raised. In 1947, the U.S. charged a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, with war crimes for waterboarding a U.S. civilian. Asano was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor. On Jan. 21, 1968, The Washington Post ran a front-page photo of a U.S. soldier supervising the waterboarding of a captured North Vietnamese soldier. The caption said the technique induced "a flooding sense of suffocation and drowning, meant to make him talk." The picture led to an Army investigation and, two months later, the court martial of the soldier. In 1983, Texas Sheriff James Parker was charged, along with three of his deputies, for handcuffing prisoners to chairs, placing towels over their faces, and pouring water on the cloth until they gave what the officers considered to be confessions. The sheriff and his deputies were all convicted and sentenced to four years in prison.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
resting my case....;}
Torture and Murder go hand in glove. " If there was the slightest shred of justice in the CIA's renditions, it has been obliterated by the burdens the U.S. has heaped on the several lawyers allowed to represent a handful of the accused, making it difficult for them to visit their clients, to speak to their clients, and to represent them fairly. Worse, the Pentagon has dressed military personnel in civilian suits and sent them to tell captives they are their court-appointed lawyers and can speak to them freely when, in fact, they are spies! And nothing points to American culpability so much as the widespread torture of captives. When, in the annals of human history, has a nation using such foul methods ever been in the right? When has any nation that closets men in secret prisons to deny access to them by the International Red Cross not had something ghastly to hide? When, in all of human history, has any nation that ever outspent all the other nations on the planet combined on armaments not been an aggressor state?"
suit yourself.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Who says this muslim POS was an American citizen?
me...;} and you're welcome to bring it...;} Further...WTF difference does that make?
I will...and you'll try to come back later pretending we didn't have this 'conversation'...;} And be ignoring this, the same shite you've been ignoring since I've know you... "The essence of the OWSer's argument is pretty simple: they've got a raw deal; somebody dealt them a bad hand; someone ran their society into a ditch and not a goddammed one of the older generation will set in motion the machinery to correct the situation, or even acknowledge it."
rotflmao. * Assassinating terrorists and murdering Libyan civilians isn't a violation of "civil rights," but waterboarding is. * Blowing up Libyan cities and towns and murdering thousands of their people isn't a violation of civil rights, but "waterboarding" is scandalous, shameful front page news for years. *0bama starting wars in Libya and Yemen while reneging on his promise to stop the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is honorable behavior of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, yet it's Bush and Cheney who are the "War Criminals." /s The most unprincipled hypocrites/closet fascists/pathological liars in God's Creation: Liberal/Leftists
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Ah, what 'conversation'? I still can't decipher your bullshit here.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
The insanity from the Leftwingnuts is only beginning. Just watch how absurd they get between now and November of 2012.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
HA! Are you actually pulling the Civil War and WWII out of your rectal piehole to buttress (no pun intended) your odd-ball point? 0bama's dictatorial actions and hypocrisy is only matched by YOUR ILK'S OWN hypocrisy, lack of principle, and self-prevarication. Your 'Nobel Peace Prize' is a cold-blooded reptilian American Pol Pot. Admit 0bama is no different than Bush and Cheney and all is forgiven my son.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
I hear ya...They are already uber-insane. 'Satan/0bama 2012' would poll higher amongst Leftwingnuts than 'Jesus/Palin 2012'.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
As has been pointed out before, the law recognizes a bifurcation of what occurs on a battlefield and what occurs in custody. The issue was never whether the capture of a combatant was legal. It was what DumbDubv43 tried to get away with AFTERWARD that was the issue. The SCOTUS agreed, btw. I challenge you to find any post of mine in which my advocacy of this fact changed in Janiary of 2009. 0bama starting wars in Libya and Yemen while reneging on his promise to stop the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is honorable behavior of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, yet it's Bush and Cheney who are the "War Criminals." First off, Obama never promised to stop the war in Afghanistan. He did promise to escalate it. Secondly, he has wound down and continues to wind down the combat presence in Iraq.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Maybe we should ping byeltsin or the Wind Talkers tribe.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Amusing isn't it? Given Democrats supported the CSA? cracks me up.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Or Ahmadinijad/Owe-bama for that matter.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Maybe, elts does speak 'kook' fluently lmao
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
So the lesson and new 0bama policy here and in the case of the apprehended bin Laden who was in custody for a minute/several seconds obviously is: EXECUTE. TAKE NO PRISONERS. Yes, much neater, eh? Btw, the information Bush's interrogators arguably "got away with" saved innumerable American lives. Meanwhile NO lives are lost waterboarding process. First off, Obama never promised to stop the war in Afghanistan. He did promise to escalate it. Secondly, he has wound down and continues to wind down the combat presence in Iraq. Allow me to amend your perception of the events; 0bama started TWO unnecessary wars in Libya and Yemen that have NO bearing on US security. CAN YOU DEFEND THEM?? How the hell do you defend these actions by King 0bama?: - Started a covert, drone war in Yemen Your Nobel Peace (cough, hack) Prize recipient 0bama is a war-mongering HAWK. Why can't you admit it?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
cracks me up. And Lincoln wuz a Republican. And from my understanding drank tea. Oooops!
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Ahmadinijad's a bit conservative for that ticket, isn't he? ;-)
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
cracks me up. Those racists Southern Democrats are now Republicans. Nixon's Southern Strategy brought in the white Dixie-crat racists so as to make the South a GOP stronghold.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
We are not at war with Yemen and we were engaged with strikes against al-Qaeda in Yemen when Bush was in office. We have been engaged in aggression with Libya on and off since Ronald Reagan's air strikes.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
Chuckles...been awhile since I've seen the Old Libby Two Step - brought to you by Novartis makers of Ritalin. You are all over the map here. Libby. So the lesson and new 0bama policy here and in the case of the apprehended bin Laden who was in custody for a minute/several seconds obviously is: EXECUTE. TAKE NO PRISONERS. The order to kill Bin Laden was issued by Billl Clinton, the same POTUS you have previously taken to task for NOT having dealt with Bin Laden when he was in office. So which one do YOU want it...Bin Laden alive or dead? And since Bin Laden was a clearly recognizable figure as a both a combatant and a command and control figure of other combatants, he was clearly subject to a "battlefield" dispensation no matter where he was. We killed Yamamoto and have targeted other military leaders throughout history. I do not lose one half wink of sleep nor do I fear for the erosion of the USCON because Bin Laden was splashed in his bed clothes and then got pissed on by some SEALS and Marines - and probably a few hundred of their drivers - and then kicked overboard to have his carcass consumed by whatever cared to eat it. It goes the same for that that asshole in Yemen. A clear combatant as well as the command and control of other combatants who CLEARLY - despite your contrary myopia - would attack US citizens and interests whereever they could be engaged. Allow me to amend your perception of the events; 0bama started TWO unnecessary wars in Libya and Yemen that have NO bearing on US security. CAN YOU DEFEND THEM?? How the hell do you defend these actions by King 0bama?: Alow me to re-focus your attention on the context of my answer which was you incorrectly stating that Obama promised to "wind down" Afghanistan which was 100% bullshit. A New Strategy For A New World Deliver 7/15/2008 I will focus this strategy on five goals essential to making America safer: ending the war in Iraq responsibly; finishing the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban; securing all nuclear weapons and materials from terrorists and rogue states; achieving true energy security; and rebuilding our alliances to meet the challenges of the 21st century. Now is the time for a responsible redeployment of our combat troops that pushes Iraq’s leaders toward a political solution, rebuilds our military, and refocuses on Afghanistan and our broader security interests. ~~~ Obama did not start the war in Libya or Yemen. A) Khaddafy has killed US citizens and thumbed his nose in allowing the Lockerbie bombers to be brought to US justice. B) The Libya campaign was initiated by NATO and pushed for by France. C) The "war" in Yemen is targeted against Al Qeada and was started by DumbDubv43.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
And now the Northern Dems are now Communists....AND real racists. Get the irony here?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
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#2. To: Badeye, Fibr Dog (#1)
#3. To: Fibr Dog (#0)
#4. To: Badeye (#1)
Thank God Owe-bama didn't use non lethal waterboarding, right Liberals?
#5. To: mcgowanjm (#3)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#6. To: war (#5)
What part of "waging war" are you missing here? This is the military equivalent of suicide by cop.
#7. To: Godwinson (#2)
This is a non-isssue - the USA has killed plenty of American citizens who fought against America, the confederacy is one example. German Americans who fought for Hitler is another and American citizen pirates (a more fitting example in al-Qaeda's case).
#8. To: mcgowanjm (#4)
#9. To: Badeye, Goodwinson (#7)
But the issue is compared to the leftwingnuts insane pronouncements related to non lethal waterboarding
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#10. To: war, Badeye (#9)
#11. To: Godwinson (#10)
We never tortured Nazis and Japanese POWs why would you want to torture an American prisoner?
#12. To: Godwinson (#10)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#13. To: Badeye (#8)
If you ask a question thats remotely decipherable, I'll give it a go.
#14. To: Badeye, war (#11)
We never tortured Nazis and Japanese POWs why would you want to torture an American prisoner?
#15. To: mcgowanjm (#13)
#16. To: Godwinson (#14)
The human rights of prisoners both military and civilian are covered under several international treaties that the USA is signatory to as well as domestic laws
#17. To: Badeye, Goodwinson (#16)
Yep, and so far nobody has ruled 'waterboarding' to be illegal.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#18. To: Badeye (#15)
Sorry, you aren't worth the effort required to lie to.
#19. To: war (#17)
#20. To: mcgowanjm (#18)
#21. To: Fibr Dog (#0)
#22. To: Thunderbird (#21)
Who says this muslim POS was an American citizen?
#23. To: Badeye (#20)
suit yourself.
#24. To: Badeye, LF's Liberal-Left Hypocrites (#1)
Thank God Owe-bama didn't use non lethal waterboarding, right Liberals?
#25. To: mcgowanjm (#23)
#26. To: Liberator (#24)
#27. To: Godwinson, Badeye, Fibr Dog (#2)
This is a non-isssue - the USA has killed plenty of American citizens who fought against America, the confederacy is one example. German Americans who fought for Hitler is another and American citizen pirates (a more fitting example in al-Qaeda's case).
#28. To: Badeye (#26)
The insanity from the Leftwingnuts is only beginning. Just watch how absurd they get between now and November of 2012.
#29. To: Liberator (#24)
Assassinating terrorists and murdering Libyan civilians isn't a violation of "civil rights," but waterboarding is.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#30. To: Badeye, mcgowanjm (#25)
Ah, what 'conversation'? I still can't decipher your bullshit here.
#31. To: Liberator (#27)
#32. To: Liberator (#28)
I hear ya...They are already uber-insane. 'Satan/0bama 2012' would poll higher amongst Leftwingnuts than 'Jesus/Palin 2012'.
#33. To: Liberator (#30)
#34. To: war (#29)
As has been pointed out before, the law recognizes a bifurcation of what occurs on a battlefield and what occurs in custody. The issue was never whether the capture of a combatant was legal. It was what DumbDubv43 tried to get away with AFTERWARD that was the issue. The SCOTUS agreed, btw.
- Escalated the proxy war in Somalia
- Escalated the CIA drone war in Pakistan
- Maintained the military occupation of Iraq
- Sharply escalated the war in Afghanistan
#35. To: Badeye (#31)
Amusing isn't it? Given Democrats supported the CSA?
#36. To: Badeye (#32)
Or Ahmadinijad/Owe-bama for that matter.
#37. To: Badeye, Liberator, war (#31)
Amusing isn't it? Given Democrats supported the CSA?
#38. To: Liberator, war (#34)
Allow me to amend your perception of the events; 0bama started TWO unnecessary wars in Libya and Yemen that have NO bearing on US security. CAN YOU DEFEND THEM?? How the hell do you defend these actions by King 0bama?:
#39. To: Liberator (#34)
(Edited)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#40. To: Godwinson, Badeye, war (#37)
Those racists Southern Democrats are now Republicans.
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