#24. To: Badeye, LF's Liberal-Left Hypocrites (#1)
Thank God Owe-bama didn't use non lethal waterboarding, right Liberals?
rotflmao.
* Assassinating terrorists and murdering Libyan civilians isn't a violation of "civil rights," but waterboarding is.
* Blowing up Libyan cities and towns and murdering thousands of their people isn't a violation of civil rights, but "waterboarding" is scandalous, shameful front page news for years.
*0bama starting wars in Libya and Yemen while reneging on his promise to stop the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is honorable behavior of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, yet it's Bush and Cheney who are the "War Criminals."
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The most unprincipled hypocrites/closet fascists/pathological liars in God's Creation: Liberal/Leftists
Assassinating terrorists and murdering Libyan civilians isn't a violation of "civil rights," but waterboarding is.
As has been pointed out before, the law recognizes a bifurcation of what occurs on a battlefield and what occurs in custody. The issue was never whether the capture of a combatant was legal. It was what DumbDubv43 tried to get away with AFTERWARD that was the issue. The SCOTUS agreed, btw.
I challenge you to find any post of mine in which my advocacy of this fact changed in Janiary of 2009.
0bama starting wars in Libya and Yemen while reneging on his promise to stop the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is honorable behavior of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, yet it's Bush and Cheney who are the "War Criminals."
First off, Obama never promised to stop the war in Afghanistan. He did promise to escalate it. Secondly, he has wound down and continues to wind down the combat presence in Iraq.
As has been pointed out before, the law recognizes a bifurcation of what occurs on a battlefield and what occurs in custody. The issue was never whether the capture of a combatant was legal. It was what DumbDubv43 tried to get away with AFTERWARD that was the issue. The SCOTUS agreed, btw.
So the lesson and new 0bama policy here and in the case of the apprehended bin Laden who was in custody for a minute/several seconds obviously is: EXECUTE. TAKE NO PRISONERS.
Yes, much neater, eh?
Btw, the information Bush's interrogators arguably "got away with" saved innumerable American lives. Meanwhile NO lives are lost waterboarding process.
First off, Obama never promised to stop the war in Afghanistan. He did promise to escalate it. Secondly, he has wound down and continues to wind down the combat presence in Iraq.
Allow me to amend your perception of the events; 0bama started TWO unnecessary wars in Libya and Yemen that have NO bearing on US security. CAN YOU DEFEND THEM?? How the hell do you defend these actions by King 0bama?:
- Started a covert, drone war in Yemen - Escalated the proxy war in Somalia - Escalated the CIA drone war in Pakistan - Maintained the military occupation of Iraq - Sharply escalated the war in Afghanistan
Your Nobel Peace (cough, hack) Prize recipient 0bama is a war-mongering HAWK. Why can't you admit it?
Chuckles...been awhile since I've seen the Old Libby Two Step - brought to you by Novartis makers of Ritalin. You are all over the map here. Libby.
So the lesson and new 0bama policy here and in the case of the apprehended bin Laden who was in custody for a minute/several seconds obviously is: EXECUTE. TAKE NO PRISONERS.
The order to kill Bin Laden was issued by Billl Clinton, the same POTUS you have previously taken to task for NOT having dealt with Bin Laden when he was in office.
So which one do YOU want it...Bin Laden alive or dead?
And since Bin Laden was a clearly recognizable figure as a both a combatant and a command and control figure of other combatants, he was clearly subject to a "battlefield" dispensation no matter where he was. We killed Yamamoto and have targeted other military leaders throughout history.
I do not lose one half wink of sleep nor do I fear for the erosion of the USCON because Bin Laden was splashed in his bed clothes and then got pissed on by some SEALS and Marines - and probably a few hundred of their drivers - and then kicked overboard to have his carcass consumed by whatever cared to eat it.
It goes the same for that that asshole in Yemen. A clear combatant as well as the command and control of other combatants who CLEARLY - despite your contrary myopia - would attack US citizens and interests whereever they could be engaged.
Allow me to amend your perception of the events; 0bama started TWO unnecessary wars in Libya and Yemen that have NO bearing on US security. CAN YOU DEFEND THEM?? How the hell do you defend these actions by King 0bama?:
Alow me to re-focus your attention on the context of my answer which was you incorrectly stating that Obama promised to "wind down" Afghanistan which was 100% bullshit.
I will focus this strategy on five goals essential to making America safer: ending the war in Iraq responsibly; finishing the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban; securing all nuclear weapons and materials from terrorists and rogue states; achieving true energy security; and rebuilding our alliances to meet the challenges of the 21st century.
Now is the time for a responsible redeployment of our combat troops that pushes Iraq’s leaders toward a political solution, rebuilds our military, and refocuses on Afghanistan and our broader security interests.
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Obama did not start the war in Libya or Yemen.
A) Khaddafy has killed US citizens and thumbed his nose in allowing the Lockerbie bombers to be brought to US justice.
B) The Libya campaign was initiated by NATO and pushed for by France.
C) The "war" in Yemen is targeted against Al Qeada and was started by DumbDubv43.
Chuckles...been awhile since I've seen the Old Libby Two Step - brought to you by Novartis makers of Ritalin. You are all over the map here. Libby.
LOL - I laughed. And I'm glad I provide you a few chuckles because you certainly entertain me....but also disappoint me. For some reason I keep expecting the day when you'll see all though the bullsh*t.
The order to kill Bin Laden was issued by Billl Clinton, the same POTUS you have previously taken to task for NOT having dealt with Bin Laden when he was in office.
I can tell Bubba took his own order seriously.....NOT. Bubba turned DOWN the Sudanese goob when they had bin Laden dead to rights - something about whether he could do it "legally." *snicker* Where the hell have you been??
So which one do YOU want it...Bin Laden alive or dead?
If there's ANY one who needed to be interrogated and milked for information, it was bin Laden. HELLO.
Since Bin Laden was a clearly recognizable figure as a both a combatant and a command and control figure of other combatants, he was clearly subject to a "battlefield" dispensation no matter where he was. We killed Yamamoto and have targeted other military leaders throughout history.
The goobermint counts on you to obediently buy this fairy tale etal. Yes, bin Laden was "clearly recognizable" as the star boogeyman for "the war on terror."
I do not lose one half wink of sleep nor do I fear for the erosion of the USCON because Bin Laden was splashed in his bed clothes and then got pissed on by some SEALS and Marines - and probably a few hundred of their drivers - and then kicked overboard to have his carcass consumed by whatever cared to eat it.
I DO lose a LOT of sleep over the erosion of USCON on a myriad of issues - the least of which is "waterboarding" or bin Laden. For some reason you believe the muddled 0bama/Dem version of bin Laden's demise...while giving NO thought and contemplation to the circumstances of the suspicious Sp Ops helicopter murders. Your boy is dirty, war.
Serious question: WHAT the hell are we doing in A-Stan? Iraq? Yemen? Libya? Are you in agreement with McCain when he suggests we remain in the Middle East fighting "terrorism" for the next one hundred years?
Obama did not start the war in Libya or Yemen.
HUH?? Come on...lol.
A) Khaddafy has killed US citizens and thumbed his nose in allowing the Lockerbie bombers to be brought to US justice.
Reagan sent his message. but tell me you're NOT going back to 1986....to justify bombing the hell out of Libyan civilians and remove Khaddafy. Geez...lol
B) The Libya campaign was initiated by NATO and pushed for by France.
NATO is overwhelmingly a US-run military arm of the UN. And so were the bombings and murders of Libyan civilians. Blaming France is lame...but pray tell - what IS THE REASON again??
C) The "war" in Yemen is targeted against Al Qeada.
Al Qaeda is all over the Middle East. Like a virus. Who TF do you think the US criminal war party is that they can unilaterally bomb the sh*t out of sovereign nations over claims of "Al Qaeda"? As though Al Qaeda is the one and only radical Muslim terrorist group that hates the US?
My God - You've been channeling both Keith Olbermann AND Dick Cheney today. WAKE UP!
I can tell Bubba took his own order seriously.....NOT. Bubba turned DOWN the Sudanese goob when they had bin Laden dead to rights - something about whether he could do it "legally." *snicker* Where the hell have you been??
Thanks for proving me correct. You want it both ways. Clinton should have killed him but Obama should not have.
I DO lose a LOT of sleep over the erosion of USCON on a myriad of issues - the least of which is "waterboarding" or bin Laden. For some reason you believe the muddled 0bama/Dem version of bin Laden's demise...
You don't lose sleep over egregious violations of not only the 8th amendment but international protocols that the US pushed to have created and, at times, have pushed to have enforced and, bottom line, IS THE STATUTORY LAW OF THE US? Would you lose sleep over those same techniques being used on US soldiers?
...while giving NO thought and contemplation to the circumstances of the suspicious Sp Ops helicopter murders. Your boy is dirty, war.
First off, he's not my "boy", Orval...he's my President. I never denied DumbDubv43 that respect and never will.
Secondly, I have no idea what that delusional rant is supposed to mean.
NATO is overwhelmingly a US-run military arm of the UN. And so were the bombings and murders of Libyan civilians. Blaming France is lame...but pray tell - what IS THE REASON again??
The US is a signatory to the UN Charter/Treaty and therefore that Treaty is the Supreme Law of the Land as is the NATO Charter. And it was France that pushed for the authorization to use force in the UNSC.
Just because you don't like an action, it doesn't give you license to change the history, facts and circumstances of that action.
