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Title: When The President Can Kill Who Ever He Wants, He's a King
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Published: Oct 3, 2011
Author: RonPaulFriends
Post Date: 2011-10-03 08:07:56 by Fibr Dog
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#12. To: Godwinson (#10)
The nail in Boofer's coffin is that were waterboarding done on a US soldier DumbDumbv43 would have protested the torture...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
you're lying....8D
I see. So we should just kill em? If an American killed a POW in his custody he would be up on murder charges. POW Geneva conventions apply. The human rights of prisoners both military and civilian are covered under several international treaties that the USA is signatory to as well as domestic laws.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
Sorry, you aren't worth the effort required to lie to.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Yep, and so far nobody has ruled 'waterboarding' to be illegal.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Nice lie Boofer... In the war crimes tribunals that followed Japan's defeat in World War II, the issue of waterboarding was sometimes raised. In 1947, the U.S. charged a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, with war crimes for waterboarding a U.S. civilian. Asano was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor. On Jan. 21, 1968, The Washington Post ran a front-page photo of a U.S. soldier supervising the waterboarding of a captured North Vietnamese soldier. The caption said the technique induced "a flooding sense of suffocation and drowning, meant to make him talk." The picture led to an Army investigation and, two months later, the court martial of the soldier. In 1983, Texas Sheriff James Parker was charged, along with three of his deputies, for handcuffing prisoners to chairs, placing towels over their faces, and pouring water on the cloth until they gave what the officers considered to be confessions. The sheriff and his deputies were all convicted and sentenced to four years in prison.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
resting my case....;}
Torture and Murder go hand in glove. " If there was the slightest shred of justice in the CIA's renditions, it has been obliterated by the burdens the U.S. has heaped on the several lawyers allowed to represent a handful of the accused, making it difficult for them to visit their clients, to speak to their clients, and to represent them fairly. Worse, the Pentagon has dressed military personnel in civilian suits and sent them to tell captives they are their court-appointed lawyers and can speak to them freely when, in fact, they are spies! And nothing points to American culpability so much as the widespread torture of captives. When, in the annals of human history, has a nation using such foul methods ever been in the right? When has any nation that closets men in secret prisons to deny access to them by the International Red Cross not had something ghastly to hide? When, in all of human history, has any nation that ever outspent all the other nations on the planet combined on armaments not been an aggressor state?"
suit yourself.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Who says this muslim POS was an American citizen?
me...;} and you're welcome to bring it...;} Further...WTF difference does that make?
I will...and you'll try to come back later pretending we didn't have this 'conversation'...;} And be ignoring this, the same shite you've been ignoring since I've know you... "The essence of the OWSer's argument is pretty simple: they've got a raw deal; somebody dealt them a bad hand; someone ran their society into a ditch and not a goddammed one of the older generation will set in motion the machinery to correct the situation, or even acknowledge it."
rotflmao. * Assassinating terrorists and murdering Libyan civilians isn't a violation of "civil rights," but waterboarding is. * Blowing up Libyan cities and towns and murdering thousands of their people isn't a violation of civil rights, but "waterboarding" is scandalous, shameful front page news for years. *0bama starting wars in Libya and Yemen while reneging on his promise to stop the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is honorable behavior of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, yet it's Bush and Cheney who are the "War Criminals." /s The most unprincipled hypocrites/closet fascists/pathological liars in God's Creation: Liberal/Leftists
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Ah, what 'conversation'? I still can't decipher your bullshit here.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
The insanity from the Leftwingnuts is only beginning. Just watch how absurd they get between now and November of 2012.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
HA! Are you actually pulling the Civil War and WWII out of your rectal piehole to buttress (no pun intended) your odd-ball point? 0bama's dictatorial actions and hypocrisy is only matched by YOUR ILK'S OWN hypocrisy, lack of principle, and self-prevarication. Your 'Nobel Peace Prize' is a cold-blooded reptilian American Pol Pot. Admit 0bama is no different than Bush and Cheney and all is forgiven my son.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
I hear ya...They are already uber-insane. 'Satan/0bama 2012' would poll higher amongst Leftwingnuts than 'Jesus/Palin 2012'.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
As has been pointed out before, the law recognizes a bifurcation of what occurs on a battlefield and what occurs in custody. The issue was never whether the capture of a combatant was legal. It was what DumbDubv43 tried to get away with AFTERWARD that was the issue. The SCOTUS agreed, btw. I challenge you to find any post of mine in which my advocacy of this fact changed in Janiary of 2009. 0bama starting wars in Libya and Yemen while reneging on his promise to stop the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is honorable behavior of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, yet it's Bush and Cheney who are the "War Criminals." First off, Obama never promised to stop the war in Afghanistan. He did promise to escalate it. Secondly, he has wound down and continues to wind down the combat presence in Iraq.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Maybe we should ping byeltsin or the Wind Talkers tribe.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Amusing isn't it? Given Democrats supported the CSA? cracks me up.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Or Ahmadinijad/Owe-bama for that matter.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Maybe, elts does speak 'kook' fluently lmao
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
So the lesson and new 0bama policy here and in the case of the apprehended bin Laden who was in custody for a minute/several seconds obviously is: EXECUTE. TAKE NO PRISONERS. Yes, much neater, eh? Btw, the information Bush's interrogators arguably "got away with" saved innumerable American lives. Meanwhile NO lives are lost waterboarding process. First off, Obama never promised to stop the war in Afghanistan. He did promise to escalate it. Secondly, he has wound down and continues to wind down the combat presence in Iraq. Allow me to amend your perception of the events; 0bama started TWO unnecessary wars in Libya and Yemen that have NO bearing on US security. CAN YOU DEFEND THEM?? How the hell do you defend these actions by King 0bama?: - Started a covert, drone war in Yemen Your Nobel Peace (cough, hack) Prize recipient 0bama is a war-mongering HAWK. Why can't you admit it?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
cracks me up. And Lincoln wuz a Republican. And from my understanding drank tea. Oooops!
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Ahmadinijad's a bit conservative for that ticket, isn't he? ;-)
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
cracks me up. Those racists Southern Democrats are now Republicans. Nixon's Southern Strategy brought in the white Dixie-crat racists so as to make the South a GOP stronghold.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
We are not at war with Yemen and we were engaged with strikes against al-Qaeda in Yemen when Bush was in office. We have been engaged in aggression with Libya on and off since Ronald Reagan's air strikes.
"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts
Chuckles...been awhile since I've seen the Old Libby Two Step - brought to you by Novartis makers of Ritalin. You are all over the map here. Libby. So the lesson and new 0bama policy here and in the case of the apprehended bin Laden who was in custody for a minute/several seconds obviously is: EXECUTE. TAKE NO PRISONERS. The order to kill Bin Laden was issued by Billl Clinton, the same POTUS you have previously taken to task for NOT having dealt with Bin Laden when he was in office. So which one do YOU want it...Bin Laden alive or dead? And since Bin Laden was a clearly recognizable figure as a both a combatant and a command and control figure of other combatants, he was clearly subject to a "battlefield" dispensation no matter where he was. We killed Yamamoto and have targeted other military leaders throughout history. I do not lose one half wink of sleep nor do I fear for the erosion of the USCON because Bin Laden was splashed in his bed clothes and then got pissed on by some SEALS and Marines - and probably a few hundred of their drivers - and then kicked overboard to have his carcass consumed by whatever cared to eat it. It goes the same for that that asshole in Yemen. A clear combatant as well as the command and control of other combatants who CLEARLY - despite your contrary myopia - would attack US citizens and interests whereever they could be engaged. Allow me to amend your perception of the events; 0bama started TWO unnecessary wars in Libya and Yemen that have NO bearing on US security. CAN YOU DEFEND THEM?? How the hell do you defend these actions by King 0bama?: Alow me to re-focus your attention on the context of my answer which was you incorrectly stating that Obama promised to "wind down" Afghanistan which was 100% bullshit. A New Strategy For A New World Deliver 7/15/2008 I will focus this strategy on five goals essential to making America safer: ending the war in Iraq responsibly; finishing the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban; securing all nuclear weapons and materials from terrorists and rogue states; achieving true energy security; and rebuilding our alliances to meet the challenges of the 21st century. Now is the time for a responsible redeployment of our combat troops that pushes Iraq’s leaders toward a political solution, rebuilds our military, and refocuses on Afghanistan and our broader security interests. ~~~ Obama did not start the war in Libya or Yemen. A) Khaddafy has killed US citizens and thumbed his nose in allowing the Lockerbie bombers to be brought to US justice. B) The Libya campaign was initiated by NATO and pushed for by France. C) The "war" in Yemen is targeted against Al Qeada and was started by DumbDubv43.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
And now the Northern Dems are now Communists....AND real racists. Get the irony here?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
lmao...well, there is that 'execute gays' thing.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Neither DumbDubv43 nor The Big Dick nor any of the interrogators have offered any substantive evidence, in fact most hasn't even been anecdotal, that water boarding saved even one life.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
You talking about Stone or Ahmenawhateverthefuck?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
rotflmao. Riiiight. What color is the sky on your home planet?
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Chuckles...your knowledge of history is right on par with your acumen as a "businessman"... The 'Southern Strategy' is a term used to describe the Republican's method of winning previously unattainable votes of white Americans in the formerly Democrat South, during the early 20th century. The term is attributed (although he really just popularised it) to Kevin Phillips, a former Richard Nixon campaign adviser. Phillips stated to the Republican Party that there was an opportunity to polarise the Southern voting, after seeing the Democrat Party fill with black votes. By standing for the idea of 'state-rights,' without being totally against integration, Phillips hoped to attract anti-black whites to vote Republican. During a 1970 New York Times interview, Phillips said: "The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are". Read more at Suite101: The 'Southern Strategy' and Richard Nixon | Suite101.com http://mark-adams.suite101.com/the-southern-strategy-and-richard-nixon- a269466#ixzz1ZjzlBstd
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
LOL - I laughed. And I'm glad I provide you a few chuckles because you certainly entertain me....but also disappoint me. For some reason I keep expecting the day when you'll see all though the bullsh*t. The order to kill Bin Laden was issued by Billl Clinton, the same POTUS you have previously taken to task for NOT having dealt with Bin Laden when he was in office. I can tell Bubba took his own order seriously.....NOT. Bubba turned DOWN the Sudanese goob when they had bin Laden dead to rights - something about whether he could do it "legally." *snicker* Where the hell have you been?? So which one do YOU want it...Bin Laden alive or dead? If there's ANY one who needed to be interrogated and milked for information, it was bin Laden. HELLO. Since Bin Laden was a clearly recognizable figure as a both a combatant and a command and control figure of other combatants, he was clearly subject to a "battlefield" dispensation no matter where he was. We killed Yamamoto and have targeted other military leaders throughout history. The goobermint counts on you to obediently buy this fairy tale etal. Yes, bin Laden was "clearly recognizable" as the star boogeyman for "the war on terror." I do not lose one half wink of sleep nor do I fear for the erosion of the USCON because Bin Laden was splashed in his bed clothes and then got pissed on by some SEALS and Marines - and probably a few hundred of their drivers - and then kicked overboard to have his carcass consumed by whatever cared to eat it. I DO lose a LOT of sleep over the erosion of USCON on a myriad of issues - the least of which is "waterboarding" or bin Laden. For some reason you believe the muddled 0bama/Dem version of bin Laden's demise...while giving NO thought and contemplation to the circumstances of the suspicious Sp Ops helicopter murders. Your boy is dirty, war. Serious question: WHAT the hell are we doing in A-Stan? Iraq? Yemen? Libya? Are you in agreement with McCain when he suggests we remain in the Middle East fighting "terrorism" for the next one hundred years? Obama did not start the war in Libya or Yemen. HUH?? Come on...lol. A) Khaddafy has killed US citizens and thumbed his nose in allowing the Lockerbie bombers to be brought to US justice. Reagan sent his message. but tell me you're NOT going back to 1986....to justify bombing the hell out of Libyan civilians and remove Khaddafy. Geez...lol B) The Libya campaign was initiated by NATO and pushed for by France. NATO is overwhelmingly a US-run military arm of the UN. And so were the bombings and murders of Libyan civilians. Blaming France is lame...but pray tell - what IS THE REASON again?? C) The "war" in Yemen is targeted against Al Qeada. Al Qaeda is all over the Middle East. Like a virus. Who TF do you think the US criminal war party is that they can unilaterally bomb the sh*t out of sovereign nations over claims of "Al Qaeda"? As though Al Qaeda is the one and only radical Muslim terrorist group that hates the US? My God - You've been channeling both Keith Olbermann AND Dick Cheney today. WAKE UP!
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Thanks for proving me correct. You want it both ways. Clinton should have killed him but Obama should not have. I DO lose a LOT of sleep over the erosion of USCON on a myriad of issues - the least of which is "waterboarding" or bin Laden. For some reason you believe the muddled 0bama/Dem version of bin Laden's demise... You don't lose sleep over egregious violations of not only the 8th amendment but international protocols that the US pushed to have created and, at times, have pushed to have enforced and, bottom line, IS THE STATUTORY LAW OF THE US? Would you lose sleep over those same techniques being used on US soldiers? ...while giving NO thought and contemplation to the circumstances of the suspicious Sp Ops helicopter murders. Your boy is dirty, war. First off, he's not my "boy", Orval...he's my President. I never denied DumbDubv43 that respect and never will. Secondly, I have no idea what that delusional rant is supposed to mean. NATO is overwhelmingly a US-run military arm of the UN. And so were the bombings and murders of Libyan civilians. Blaming France is lame...but pray tell - what IS THE REASON again?? The US is a signatory to the UN Charter/Treaty and therefore that Treaty is the Supreme Law of the Land as is the NATO Charter. And it was France that pushed for the authorization to use force in the UNSC. Just because you don't like an action, it doesn't give you license to change the history, facts and circumstances of that action.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Hold on Baba-booey. You asserted that "the order to kill Bin Laden was issued by Billl Clinton." If that was so, why wasn't he offed before9/11? The real history: Bubba Clinton could have taken out bin Laden but did NOT. You don't lose sleep over egregious violations of not only the 8th amendment but international protocols that the US pushed to have created and, at times, have pushed to have enforced and, bottom line, IS THE STATUTORY LAW OF THE US? Would you lose sleep over those same techniques being used on US soldiers? Be consistent and share my lost sleep over multiple violations of several US constitutional violations and superseding US law for international protocols - not just the ones that make Dubya look bad and your boy 0bama look like he's merely following suit. First off, he's not my "boy", Orval...he's my President. He's apparently both AND your hero. This is a guy whose repeated, ill-advised amateurish policies and "leadership" have completely f**ked up and undermined this nation economically and socially, and yet you refuse to criticize him. I never denied DumbDubv43 that respect and never will. Neither one is worthy of respect as long as they continue to disrespect the will of the people and letter of the US constitution. They are both traitors. The US is a signatory to the UN Charter/Treaty and therefore that Treaty is the Supreme Law of the Land as is the NATO Charter. And it was France that pushed for the authorization to use force in the UNSC. France's supposed sign-off on bombing the sh*t out of Libya still doesn't explain why the US military is used as a tool of mass destruction in libya OR explain why the UN Charter/Treaty OR NATO's bombing is justifiable in this case. Just because you don't like an action, it doesn't give you license to change the history, facts and circumstances of that action. I not only dislike bombing innocent human beings and a sovereign nation, I abhor the fake reasons given by an international consortium to use MY taxes and resources to kill, maim and occupy people who do not threaten my security or that of my country.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
The real history: Bubba Clinton could have taken out bin Laden but did NOT. As told in right wing fairy tales...suuuuure. Be consistent and share my lost sleep over multiple violations of several US constitutional violations and superseding US law for international protocols - not just the ones that make Dubya look bad... International protocols are "law". Targeting combatants is most certainly within those protocols. Again, this is an issue that you want both sides. You wanted Clinton to view terrorist acts for that they were - acts of war - and now that Obama has and is, you want them to treat them as criminal violations. Again, the law is clear, the difference between engaging an enemy in battle versus his treatment in custody are TWO DIFFERENT legal issues. And, again, the SCOTUS has agreed with me thoughout the history of the US. He's apparently both AND your hero. This is a guy whose repeated, ill- advised amateurish policies and "leadership" have completely f**ked up and undermined this nation economically and socially, and yet you refuse to criticize him. Socially?!? Oh Libby...you make it too freakin' easy. So Obama is uppity...well...as Sebastian pointed out on another thread...HALF uppity... France's supposed sign-off on bombing... There was nothing "supposed" about it whatsoever. Sarkozy to the lead on this issue. He and Camercn just visited there a couple of weeks ago. They were greeted as Liberators by the way... I abhor the fake reasons given by an international consortium to use MY taxes and resources to kill, maim and occupy people who do not threaten my security or that of my country. t Believing that Khaddafy and AQ are nice neighbors is...dumb.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
"The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are". Talk about generalities and conspiracies....wow. Does this mean today's Democrat Party hijacking by leftists (who've ostensibly become the Socialist Party of America) has nothing to do with the current abandonment of its subversive party by whites? To what do you subscribe is the current reason white America has all but abandoned the Dem Party (and their Leftist/separatist Caucuses off-shoots of Europhobia, anti-America-ism)?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Huh? Nixon had a clear Southern Strategy and that was it. But it actually wasn't on a one to one basis. Whites outnumber blacks. To what do you subscribe is the current reason white America has all but abandoned the Dem Party (and their Leftist/separatist Caucuses off-shoots of Europhobia, anti-America-ism)? Your proof is this absurdity is what? ONE special election?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
As told in right wing fairy tales...suuuuure. Even Bubba Clinton admitted so in an interview. Bubba let Osama be. Was HE telling "right wing fairy tales" too?? LOL - you're frickin' delusional. International protocols are "law". So international law supersedes US law and the US Constitution? Yeah, you must be awfully disturbed by this development. Illegal "laws" are NOT constitutional. You wanted Clinton to view terrorist acts for that they were - acts of war - and now that Obama has and is, you want them to treat them as criminal violations. Bubba "ordered" jacksquat; No, he actually "ordered" bin Laden to L-I-V-E another day and bomb NYC and DC on 9/11 (if we're to believe he actually "masterminded" 9/11.) However, this is just one point; Bin Laden has technically not ever committed an "act of war" because he's supposed just a member of a Muslim cult - not the leader of a nation or sovereignty. That said, as a Saudi Arabian (along with 14 other 9/11 participants), shouldn't this so-called "war on terror" be waged against Saudi Arabia? They sponsored/enabled terrorist training camps. Moreover, why were 0bama and Holder so insistent two years ago in holding "terrorist" trials in NYC but NOT for 0bama and this latest Al Qaeda stooge?? Man, you just want it ANY way that exonerated 0bama, Bubba, and the Dems for their hypocrisy, lies, and war mongering. Socially?!? Oh Libby...you make it too freakin' easy. Uh, yeah. "Get in their face"....referring to whitey at a Hispanic conference as "your enemies", and....READ MY TAGLINE, dum-dum. Who's making this "easy"?? lol, chyeah. 0bama IS a damn racist and a damn class warfare sh*t-stirrer. So Obama is uppity...well...as Sebastian pointed out on another thread...HALF uppity... Oh, my bad - 0bama's just a humble Nobel Peace Prize winner and uniter....NOT. Your HERO: An arrogant f**ker and yes, uppity Commie community organizer who takes vacations as America burns - then tells us all to "sacrifice" while giving us the middle finger. He just happened to have attended a black separatist church for 20 years too. YOU are totally delusional, war. There was nothing "supposed" about it whatsoever. Sarkozy to the lead on this issue. He and Camercn just visited there a couple of weeks ago. Got a reason for the NATO bombing yet? (I'm still waiting for justification) They [the bombers and fighter aircraft] were greeted as Liberators by the way... LOL - are you shot-gunning some awesome weed today?? Dude - I had NO idea you were such a leftist-CNN/NYT sponge of obvious propaganda! "Liberators" - that sounds like the same crap the neocons fed us back in 2003 with respect to the expectations Iraqs. NATO is backing Muslim extremists in Libya. Believing that Khaddafy and AQ are nice neighbors is...dumb. No sh*t....but Khaddafy is NOT to be confused with AQ. Khaddafy did not declare war on the US.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
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--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#13. To: Badeye (#8)
If you ask a question thats remotely decipherable, I'll give it a go.
#14. To: Badeye, war (#11)
We never tortured Nazis and Japanese POWs why would you want to torture an American prisoner?
#15. To: mcgowanjm (#13)
#16. To: Godwinson (#14)
The human rights of prisoners both military and civilian are covered under several international treaties that the USA is signatory to as well as domestic laws
#17. To: Badeye, Goodwinson (#16)
Yep, and so far nobody has ruled 'waterboarding' to be illegal.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#18. To: Badeye (#15)
Sorry, you aren't worth the effort required to lie to.
#19. To: war (#17)
#20. To: mcgowanjm (#18)
#21. To: Fibr Dog (#0)
#22. To: Thunderbird (#21)
Who says this muslim POS was an American citizen?
#23. To: Badeye (#20)
suit yourself.
#24. To: Badeye, LF's Liberal-Left Hypocrites (#1)
Thank God Owe-bama didn't use non lethal waterboarding, right Liberals?
#25. To: mcgowanjm (#23)
#26. To: Liberator (#24)
#27. To: Godwinson, Badeye, Fibr Dog (#2)
This is a non-isssue - the USA has killed plenty of American citizens who fought against America, the confederacy is one example. German Americans who fought for Hitler is another and American citizen pirates (a more fitting example in al-Qaeda's case).
#28. To: Badeye (#26)
The insanity from the Leftwingnuts is only beginning. Just watch how absurd they get between now and November of 2012.
#29. To: Liberator (#24)
Assassinating terrorists and murdering Libyan civilians isn't a violation of "civil rights," but waterboarding is.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#30. To: Badeye, mcgowanjm (#25)
Ah, what 'conversation'? I still can't decipher your bullshit here.
#31. To: Liberator (#27)
#32. To: Liberator (#28)
I hear ya...They are already uber-insane. 'Satan/0bama 2012' would poll higher amongst Leftwingnuts than 'Jesus/Palin 2012'.
#33. To: Liberator (#30)
#34. To: war (#29)
As has been pointed out before, the law recognizes a bifurcation of what occurs on a battlefield and what occurs in custody. The issue was never whether the capture of a combatant was legal. It was what DumbDubv43 tried to get away with AFTERWARD that was the issue. The SCOTUS agreed, btw.
- Escalated the proxy war in Somalia
- Escalated the CIA drone war in Pakistan
- Maintained the military occupation of Iraq
- Sharply escalated the war in Afghanistan
#35. To: Badeye (#31)
Amusing isn't it? Given Democrats supported the CSA?
#36. To: Badeye (#32)
Or Ahmadinijad/Owe-bama for that matter.
#37. To: Badeye, Liberator, war (#31)
Amusing isn't it? Given Democrats supported the CSA?
#38. To: Liberator, war (#34)
Allow me to amend your perception of the events; 0bama started TWO unnecessary wars in Libya and Yemen that have NO bearing on US security. CAN YOU DEFEND THEM?? How the hell do you defend these actions by King 0bama?:
#39. To: Liberator (#34)
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--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#40. To: Godwinson, Badeye, war (#37)
Those racists Southern Democrats are now Republicans.
#41. To: Liberator (#36)
#42. To: Liberator (#34)
Btw, the information Bush's interrogators arguably "got away with" saved innumerable American lives. Meanwhile NO lives are lost waterboarding process.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#43. To: Badeye (#41)
lmao...well, there is that 'execute gays' thing.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#44. To: Godwinson (#37)
Those racists Southern Democrats are now Republicans. Nixon's Southern Strategy brought in the white Dixie-crat racists so as to make the South a GOP stronghold.
#45. To: Badeye (#44)
Riiiight. What color is the sky on your home planet?
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#46. To: war (#39)
Chuckles...been awhile since I've seen the Old Libby Two Step - brought to you by Novartis makers of Ritalin. You are all over the map here. Libby.
#47. To: Liberator (#46)
I can tell Bubba took his own order seriously.....NOT. Bubba turned DOWN the Sudanese goob when they had bin Laden dead to rights - something about whether he could do it "legally." *snicker* Where the hell have you been??
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#48. To: war (#47)
You want it both ways. Clinton should have killed him but Obama should not have.
#49. To: Liberator (#48)
Hold on Baba-booey. You asserted that "the order to kill Bin Laden was issued by Billl Clinton." If that was so, why wasn't he offed before9/11?
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#50. To: war (#45)
During a 1970 New York Times interview, Phillips said:
#51. To: Liberator (#50)
Talk about generalities and conspiracies....wow.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#52. To: war (#49)
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Me: "The real history: Bubba Clinton could have taken out bin Laden but did NOT."
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