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Title: When The President Can Kill Who Ever He Wants, He's a King
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnem1Ohm3Q0&feature=player_embedded
Published: Oct 3, 2011
Author: RonPaulFriends
Post Date: 2011-10-03 08:07:56 by Fibr Dog
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Views: 49902
Comments: 77

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#1. To: Fibr Dog (#0)

Thank God Owe-bama didn't use non lethal waterboarding, right Liberals?

rotflmao.

Badeye  posted on  2011-10-03   9:13:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye, Fibr Dog (#1)

This is a non-isssue - the USA has killed plenty of American citizens who fought against America, the confederacy is one example. German Americans who fought for Hitler is another and American citizen pirates (a more fitting example in al-Qaeda's case).

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-03   9:32:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Godwinson (#2)

This is a non-isssue - the USA has killed plenty of American citizens who fought against America, the confederacy is one example. German Americans who fought for Hitler is another and American citizen pirates (a more fitting example in al-Qaeda's case).

I don't dispute what you wrote here.

But the issue is compared to the leftwingnuts insane pronouncements related to non lethal waterboarding, your DEFENSE of this action is hyterically funny, given the level of hypocrisy it represents.

btw, nobody believes you guys on the Left would be saying this if Bush had ordered it. Another amusing aspect to this 'non issue' as you call it.

Badeye  posted on  2011-10-03   9:54:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Badeye, Goodwinson (#7)

But the issue is compared to the leftwingnuts insane pronouncements related to non lethal waterboarding

Only a moron would equate what can happen ON the battlefield as justifying what can happen OFF of it.

Kiling a combatant on the field of battle is 100% justifiable. Torturing him off of it is not.

war  posted on  2011-10-03   9:58:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war, Badeye (#9)

We never tortured Nazis and Japanese POWs why would you want to torture an American prisoner? If water boarding works why don't you support it as part of America's police efforts? Get arrested and have the police water board until you confess to a crime......

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-03   10:01:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Godwinson (#10)

We never tortured Nazis and Japanese POWs why would you want to torture an American prisoner?

I see. So we should just kill em?

lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-10-03   10:04:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye, war (#11)

We never tortured Nazis and Japanese POWs why would you want to torture an American prisoner?

I see. So we should just kill em?

If an American killed a POW in his custody he would be up on murder charges. POW Geneva conventions apply.

The human rights of prisoners both military and civilian are covered under several international treaties that the USA is signatory to as well as domestic laws.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-03   10:16:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Godwinson (#14)

The human rights of prisoners both military and civilian are covered under several international treaties that the USA is signatory to as well as domestic laws

Yep, and so far nobody has ruled 'waterboarding' to be illegal.

Badeye  posted on  2011-10-03   10:18:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye, Goodwinson (#16)

Yep, and so far nobody has ruled 'waterboarding' to be illegal.

Nice lie Boofer...

In the war crimes tribunals that followed Japan's defeat in World War II, the issue of waterboarding was sometimes raised. In 1947, the U.S. charged a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, with war crimes for waterboarding a U.S. civilian. Asano was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor.

On Jan. 21, 1968, The Washington Post ran a front-page photo of a U.S. soldier supervising the waterboarding of a captured North Vietnamese soldier. The caption said the technique induced "a flooding sense of suffocation and drowning, meant to make him talk." The picture led to an Army investigation and, two months later, the court martial of the soldier.

In 1983, Texas Sheriff James Parker was charged, along with three of his deputies, for handcuffing prisoners to chairs, placing towels over their faces, and pouring water on the cloth until they gave what the officers considered to be confessions. The sheriff and his deputies were all convicted and sentenced to four years in prison.

war  posted on  2011-10-03   10:23:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: war (#17)

Torture and Murder go hand in glove.

"

If there was the slightest shred of justice in the CIA's renditions, it has been obliterated by the burdens the U.S. has heaped on the several lawyers allowed to represent a handful of the accused, making it difficult for them to visit their clients, to speak to their clients, and to represent them fairly. Worse, the Pentagon has dressed military personnel in civilian suits and sent them to tell captives they are their court-appointed lawyers and can speak to them freely when, in fact, they are spies! And nothing points to American culpability so much as the widespread torture of captives. When, in the annals of human history, has a nation using such foul methods ever been in the right? When has any nation that closets men in secret prisons to deny access to them by the International Red Cross not had something ghastly to hide? When, in all of human history, has any nation that ever outspent all the other nations on the planet combined on armaments not been an aggressor state?"

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-10-03 10:32:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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