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Title: Battered by Economic Crisis, Greeks Turn to Barter Networks
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/w ... er-networks-surge.html?_r=2&hp
Published: Oct 1, 2011
Author: RACHEL DONADIO
Post Date: 2011-10-02 11:24:33 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 65078
Comments: 90

VOLOS, Greece — The first time he bought eggs, milk and jam at an outdoor market using not euros but an informal barter currency, Theodoros Mavridis, an unemployed electrician, was thrilled.

The barter network in Volos has grown to 400 members.

“I felt liberated, I felt free for the first time,” Mr. Mavridis said in a recent interview at a cafe in this port city in central Greece. “I instinctively reached into my pocket, but there was no need to.”

Mr. Mavridis is a co-founder of a growing network here in Volos that uses a so-called Local Alternative Unit, or TEM in Greek, to exchange goods and services — language classes, baby-sitting, computer support, home-cooked meals — and to receive discounts at some local businesses.

Part alternative currency, part barter system, part open-air market, the Volos network has grown exponentially in the past year, from 50 to 400 members. It is one of several such groups cropping up around the country, as Greeks squeezed by large wage cuts, tax increases and growing fears about whether they will continue to use the euro have looked for creative ways to cope with a radically changing economic landscape.

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#2. To: lucysmom (#0)

This is what gets me about the gold bugs. ANYTHING has intrinsic value even if that value is 0.

war  posted on  2011-10-02   11:31:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: war (#2)

This is what gets me about the gold bugs. ANYTHING has intrinsic value even if that value is 0.

Yeah, MY first thoughts about a forced barter system in the aftermath of an inflationary currency that devalues the value of work is about "Gold."

*eyeball roll*

I suppose you'll be trading in all your gold for "barter credits"?

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-03   13:07:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Liberator (#76)

I suppose you'll be trading in all your gold for "barter credits"?

As usual, you miss the point. Gold is as arbitray as any other method for measuring *value*. People could exchange goods and services for rocks if they can argee upon a congruent value for such an exchange.

war  posted on  2011-10-03   13:16:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: war (#78)

Gold is as arbitray as any other method for measuring *value*. People could exchange goods and services for rocks if they can argee upon a congruent value for such an exchange.

Gold has been "arbitrarily" regarded as a standard of wealth by ALL civilizations since the beginning of time. Maybe it's in our DNA. That's not going to change, but hey, I'm only the piano player.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-03   14:08:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Liberator (#84)

Gold has been "arbitrarily" regarded as a standard of wealth by ALL civilizations since the beginning of time.

Yea so?

war  posted on  2011-10-03   14:11:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: war (#85)

Gold has been "arbitrarily" regarded as a standard of wealth by ALL civilizations since the beginning of time.

Yea so?

I was responding to your goofy comment:

"This is what gets me about the gold bugs. ANYTHING has intrinsic value even if that value is 0."

So what point are you making to the forum?? That you're annoyed by those who dare recognize gold as a universal and tangible standard of wealth instead of "0bama-credits"?

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-03   14:33:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#87. To: Liberator (#86)

So what point are you making to the forum??

That GOLD is a [reactionary] solution looking for a problem.

war  posted on  2011-10-03 14:33:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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