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Title: Battered by Economic Crisis, Greeks Turn to Barter Networks
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/w ... er-networks-surge.html?_r=2&hp
Published: Oct 1, 2011
Author: RACHEL DONADIO
Post Date: 2011-10-02 11:24:33 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 65099
Comments: 90

VOLOS, Greece — The first time he bought eggs, milk and jam at an outdoor market using not euros but an informal barter currency, Theodoros Mavridis, an unemployed electrician, was thrilled.

The barter network in Volos has grown to 400 members.

“I felt liberated, I felt free for the first time,” Mr. Mavridis said in a recent interview at a cafe in this port city in central Greece. “I instinctively reached into my pocket, but there was no need to.”

Mr. Mavridis is a co-founder of a growing network here in Volos that uses a so-called Local Alternative Unit, or TEM in Greek, to exchange goods and services — language classes, baby-sitting, computer support, home-cooked meals — and to receive discounts at some local businesses.

Part alternative currency, part barter system, part open-air market, the Volos network has grown exponentially in the past year, from 50 to 400 members. It is one of several such groups cropping up around the country, as Greeks squeezed by large wage cuts, tax increases and growing fears about whether they will continue to use the euro have looked for creative ways to cope with a radically changing economic landscape.

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#1. To: Not Badeye, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, mininggold, brian s, mcgowanjm (#0)

After years of rampant consumerism and easy credit, such nascent initiatives speak to the new mood in Greece, where imposed austerity has caused people to come together — not only to protest en masse, but also to help one another.

Oooo - people helping each other - socialist.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-10-02   11:27:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#1)

Oooo - people helping each other - socialist.

That isn't socialism. I think it is great that they found a way around the euro. Socialism doesn't help people. It hurts them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-02   11:37:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Socialism doesn't help people. It hurts them.

So then if single payer health insurance saves lives, it's not Socialism.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-10-02   12:19:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom (#5)

So then if single payer health insurance saves lives, it's not Socialism.

Where do you get these goofy ideas at?

Taking from someone against their will to give it to someone else is socialism.

Helping people through your free will and good heart is just good behavior.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-02   12:30:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Taking from someone against their will to give it to someone else is socialism.

Helping people through your free will and good heart is just good behavior.

Then maybe you'd do well to pay your taxes with joy and thanksgiving.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-10-02   12:47:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#16)

I'd rather put a dagger in the heart of elected thieves who think like you do.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-02   12:49:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)

I'd rather put a dagger in the heart of elected thieves who think like you do.

Do you want to join the ranks of prison inmates because they get free healthcare?

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-02   12:52:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mininggold (#19)

Do you want to join the ranks of prison inmates because they get free healthcare?

lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-02   14:08:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#34)

Idiotbitch: Do you want to join the ranks of prison inmates because they get free healthcare?

If she worked as hard at rational thinking as throwing out bogus BS to sidetrack conversations, she might well become a productive member of society...

She'll never go there, though. It's easier to believe her delusions, than face reality.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-10-02   14:57:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Capitalist Eric (#43) (Edited)

Do you ever have a comment about the topic at hand rather than one about the people discussing it?

EVER?

war  posted on  2011-10-02   15:15:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war (#44)

Do you ever have a comment about the topic at hand rather than one about the people discussing it?

EVER?

Does the word "hypocrite" mean anything to you?

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-10-02   15:24:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Capitalist Eric (#46) (Edited)

I discuss the topics Junior.

You gossip.

When someone TRIES to discuss the topic with you, you flip out.

You NEVER discuss the topic.

Ever.

war  posted on  2011-10-02   15:27:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war (#47)

You NEVER discuss the topic.

This is why so many on this forum populate my bozo list.

Brian S  posted on  2011-10-02   18:11:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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