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Title: A deep health care divide in Rick Perry’s Texas
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Boston Globe
URL Source: http://www.boston.com/news/politics ... ing_health_care_gap/?page=full
Published: Sep 30, 2011
Author: Boston Globe
Post Date: 2011-09-30 12:49:16 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 20118
Comments: 54
HOUSTON - The cutting edge treatments and renowned doctors here at the Texas Medical Center draw Arab sheiks and former first ladies to gleaming facilities adorned with spraying fountains and aquariums. Billed as the world’s largest medical campus, the towering glass and sandstone buildings house 14 hospitals and three medical schools, spread across 14 square blocks. But for the more than 6 million Texans without health insurance, these world-class institutions remain largely out of reach. Texas has the highest rate of uninsured people in the country - 24.6 percent - and the number of uninsured that has grown by 35 percent during Governor Rick Perry’s 11-year tenure. And here in Harris County, which includes Houston, the state’s largest city, the picture is even more troubling: One out of three people lacks insurance. “This is ground zero in the health care disaster,’’ said Dr. Leonard Zwelling, an oncologist at The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center. “Houston is such a rich city, with some of the best medical care in the world. . . . And yet the people without insurance have a heck of a time getting into most of these facilities because they can’t pay.’’
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#14. To: CZ82 (#12)
One trip to the hospital.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Liar. I read research reports all the time. The data ain't there. If it was, you'd have posted it, to prove me wrong. But since the article is shit, and there's little *real* data, you TALK shit, instead. Really, you MUST try harder, to keep up with the adults... Thanks for playing! :) You're dismissed. Again.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... One trip to the hospital. And how many people get admitted to the hospital once a year?????? 20-30 million????? And most of them are old people or women having babies..... I haven't been admitted to a hospital since I was 8 or 9!!! The point is most people don't need to be paying in that much money for Health Insurance so why should it be mandatory that everyone buy it????? Sounds like another way to seperate people from their freedoms...... just another Leftard scam....
"CHANGE" you can step in..... Liberals are shit. They need their heads stomped on.
I agree, that's why I like the single payer plan.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
So you would make it illegal for a doctor to take private payments for services rendered? Single payer ins't free and you are still forced to pay throught higher taxes. Should faggots who deliberately get aids be covered too? I don't think they should.
Spreading Christian love this morning? Would Jesus be pleased?
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Who says its free? You're paying right this moment, you're just not getting your money's worth. Should faggots who deliberately get aids be covered too? I don't think they should. So how much money are you willing to spend to hire investigators to probe the intimate lives (so much for the rights of the ill) of AIDS victims to discover the exact time of infection, and state of mind at the time?
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Yep, I'm not real happy with being forced to buy my insurance from a private entity, that can go out of business at any moment.
So that means you won't have a problem when the government says you can't have a certain treatment or operation and it causes you to suffer or die!!!!!
"CHANGE" you can step in..... People are suffering and dying right now and you don't care.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Funny thing is CZ says he won't buy insurance because he doesn't need it. Apparently he doesn't plan on ever getting sick, and when he does he'll just stick it to the taxpayer. In effect, CZ already does have single payer. He just doesn't realize it.
A friend's husband was hit by a elderly woman driving without her glasses. Fortunately he was insured and the woman was insured because he spent two very expensive months in the hospital. CZ doesn't realize that one doesn't have to get sick to end up in the hospital.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
I doubt that. He just plans on sticking us with the bill when he does.
Some of them did it to themselves so why should I care.... They chose the path of their lives and they need to deal with the consequences of their choices... It's not my or your responsibility to help them out, it's theirs!!! Suffering and dying happens every day all over the world, and a lot of it is caused by the governments of the countries they live in..... That's why I don't want the government controlling my healthcare choices.....
"CHANGE" you can step in..... I doubt that. He just plans on sticking us with the bill when he does. LOL..... I have 2 different health insurance plans provided by those I have worked for over my career...... I would have prefered they just give my the money so I could have invested it, but with neither job was that an option... If I could have done what I wanted, then I would be retired now, have no bills and would still have enough left over to take care of any health care issues I may develop when I get older. And the level of care I would receive would be by "MY" choice not some dumbass bureaucrat or some insurance company douchebag!!!!! And if for some reason I would have gotten sick or injured before my plans had come to fruition then "Oh well that's the breaks"!!!! Lifes all about taking chances/risks, some people just can't figure that out for themselves.... That's why they want the government to make all of their decisions for them, they don't want to have to sleep in the bed they made for themselves..... Me, well I sleep just fine... I have no regrets with what I've done with my life.....
"CHANGE" you can step in..... So I assume that if you have a house, you're not wasting any money on house insurance, and same goes for car insurance.
Not if you're a Christian.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
I'm not a Christian and I care. What does religion have to do with morality? We've already seen today that the Great Christian Stone doesn't care at all when a fundamentalist Christian family kills their own child because of their religious beliefs.
The leveraging of the Christain label to allow hateful and greedy people to use that faith like a sheepskin to hide their wolf personas reminds me of the time Clinton leveraged his Monica L. experiance as "It depends on what you call sex." (Paraphrase of Clinton's words) Most Perry grade 'Christains' would house Jesus Christ in the psych ward and view him as a dangerous element endangering their lucritive businesses set up in the temple of religious posturing. They would not be down for that peace, help the poor, and turn the other cheek garbage. To say the least.
I see you have picked up on the battle Oregon has had with sects who prefer faith healing to a doctor's care to keep their children alive. I concur with you; such parents are criminal to let their children die as experiments to explore the power of their faith. it has been gratifying to see so many of thise people who facilitated their kid's death by denying them treatment go to prison for this.
Of course you don't have to be a Christian to care; however Christians are instructed to care for others as God has cared for them even when they were lost. Caring for a Christian is not optional, it is an imperative from God. The Good Samaritan was not a Christian.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
They don't even understand their faith. From Catholic Culture: "TEMPTING GOD An act or omission in which a person tires to test God's attributes, notably his love, power, or wisdom. It may be done either explicitly or implicitly. God is tempted explicitly when something is demanded of him or when something is done or omitted for the actual purpose of ascertaining the extent of god's love, power, or wisdom. An example would be that of an atheist who might give God, say, five minutes to strike him or her dead, "if there is a God." To explicitly tempt God is always a grave sin. God is tempted implicitly when, not doubting his atributes, a person rashly requires a manifestation of divine love, power, or wisdom. Examples of implicitly tempting God are needlessly risking one's life in some dangerous feat or refusing all medical aid simply because it is up to god to cure one of some grave illness or disease. Implicitly tempting god is a serious sin in grave matters, otherwise a venial sin. " http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=36799
I'm afraid that the current crop of evangelicals would disagree with you. Protecting the rich and well off is the imperative; everybody else can fend for themselves.
So, you think all people who say they are Christain are actually Christians? That is all I said essentually. Try reading for content and being such a mindless reactionary when you raise your posting saber and charge off the high cliff to dive into the valley of insipidly stupid posts. As if that will ever happen with you.
Of course not.
Then why are you spewing on me for pointing that out? I said nothing insulting to people who follow accurately what your Jesus Christ is to have said, done and believed in. I was knocking the pretenders, which makes your above insult to my religious belief system a pointless and foolish thing to do. Don't read my prose and see what you want to see in it, go for what I actually say.
As for the faith healers, children have died from curable afflictions because their parents have tried to use prayer as a substitute. It is te law that the state be a secular entity that objectly protects the welfare of minors. If they see a child is going to die because their parents will not allow the life saving treatment, they are klegally obligated to intercede and act. You don't like abortion, Stone, so how can you support the needless killing of children by denying them nessesary care their parents well meaning delusions are trying to keep from them? Try arguing the point and the story and sticking clear of such mindless personal attacks. I mean, it's not like you impress anyone by doing that. Nor does it make you look very good.
It doesn't look good, does it?
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Have more kids died because of "faith healing" beliefs. Or democrats and their abortions? Or here is the real question. Have more died from faith healing beliefs or forced medical care?
I don't see your point. If you want to argue that kids have died from intervention of attempts to hal by faith, show me an example of this happening. Otherwise all I see is you talking about some kids dying instead of others being preferable because of you believe is causing their deaths. You also expressed your point in a way that does not make a whole lot of sense.
Not if you're a Christian ROTFLMAO....... Who said I was a Christian???? I sure didn't!!!!! So you don't believe in being responsible for ones actions??? Or are you saying I should care when it's actually none of my business how someone else runs/screws up their lives???? And if this is what you are saying then what religion promotes this???? (that way I know to stay away from their place of worship).... By the way are you a theist or atheist!!!!
"CHANGE" you can step in..... Yes I have a house and cars, and have them insured..... actually my company is pretty reasonable so why not.... But anyway lets get back to where you want those 1 out of 3 people to have taxpayer sponsored Health Insurance..... The truth is some choose not to have insurance and some have made decisions in the past that now preclude them from being able to purchase insurance.... That still doesn't explain why we have to have single payer insurance to cover those who have made the decision "NOT" to have insurance.... (and fine them for not participating in ObozoCare)... And it also doesn't explain why I as a taxpayer should be forced to help someone who won't help themselves!!!! (what religion is that)????
"CHANGE" you can step in..... It is easy to explain. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Or are you saying I should care when it's actually none of my business how someone else runs/screws up their lives???? And if this is what you are saying then what religion promotes this???? Some people choose not to, and don't have health insurance. Some don't care but their employer provides insurance for them anyway. Some people want health insurance but their employer doesn't offer that benefit and doesn't pay enough so the employee can purchase individual insurance. Some people have pre-existing conditions that make them uninsurable, or the cost is prohibitive. Some people are children and can't choose for themselves. Some people are disabled in a way that precludes them from working and/or making responsible choices. Most religions I know of encourage individual responsibility AND care and compassion for others. It is not an either or proposition.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Be that as it may I'm choosy as to who I help and have compassion for.... Those who are trying to do the right thing I'm willing to help, those who have consistently ran away from doing the right thing, then they can just deal with the consequences... If that means they die becauase of their laziness/stupidity then so be it..... But then again if "YOU" want to help those "STUPID ONES" that I just mentioned then please feel free to do so with "YOUR OWN MONEY".....
"CHANGE" you can step in..... And this is "SUPPOSED" to be a good enough reason to force millions of others in this country to have to give up their current Health Insurance for the crap the government wants to saddle us with?????? Beings they are such a small amount of people then why doesn't the government figure out a better way to help them instead of "phucking" everybody else???? Oh that's right it's not about helping those people (false empathy) it's all about the power of the politicans!!!! And you're willing to screw yourself for the power of a politician, who could give a shit less about you... ROTFLMAO!!!!
"CHANGE" you can step in..... I would even help you.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
I would even help you. Don't need it, don't want it, wouldn't take it!!!! I wouldn't even take money from my parents to send me to college, went into the military instead and made my own career, my own decisions..... If more people in this country did what I did, we wouldn't have most of the problems we currently have and the Establishment politicians would be almost extinct... Too much of a pipe dream I guess, not enough people have the patience or spine to do things the right way.....
"CHANGE" you can step in..... Since the average healthcare policy is up to what $10-15,000 per year, how many trips do you have to make to the doctor per year to get back what you paid in under one of those policies??????
#15. To: lucysmom (#13)
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24347&Disp=35#C35
#16. To: lucysmom (#14)
Since the average healthcare policy is up to what $10-15,000 per year, how many trips do you have to make to the doctor per year to get back what you paid in under one of those policies??????
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
#17. To: CZ82 (#16)
#18. To: CZ82 (#16)
The point is most people don't need to be paying in that much money for Health Insurance so why should it be mandatory that everyone buy it?????
#19. To: lucysmom (#18)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#17)
Liberals are shit. They need their heads stomped on.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#19)
Single payer ins't free and you are still forced to pay throught higher taxes.
#22. To: lucysmom (#18)
I agree, that's why I like the single payer plan.
#23. To: lucysmom (#18)
I agree, that's why I like the single payer plan.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
#24. To: CZ82 (#23)
So that means you won't have a problem when the government says you can't have a certain treatment or operation and it causes you to suffer or die!!!!!
#25. To: lucysmom, CZ82 (#24)
People are suffering and dying right now and you don't care.
#26. To: Skip Intro (#25)
Apparently he doesn't plan on ever getting sick, and when he does he'll just stick it to the taxpayer.
#27. To: lucysmom (#26)
CZ doesn't realize that one doesn't have to get sick to end up in the hospital.
#28. To: lucysmom (#24)
People are suffering and dying right now and you don't care.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
#29. To: Skip Intro, lucysmom (#27)
CZ doesn't realize that one doesn't have to get sick to end up in the hospital.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
#30. To: CZ82 (#29)
#31. To: CZ82 (#28)
Some of them did it to themselves so why should I care.... They chose the path of their lives and they need to deal with the consequences of their choices... It's not my or your responsibility to help them out, it's theirs!!!
#32. To: lucysmom (#31)
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Not if you're a Christian.
#33. To: lucysmom (#31)
(Edited)
"Not if you're a Christian."
#34. To: Skip Intro (#32)
#35. To: Skip Intro (#32)
I'm not a Christian and I care. What does religion have to do with morality?
#36. To: Ferret Mike (#34)
I concur with you; such parents are criminal to let their children die as experiments to explore the power of their faith.
#37. To: lucysmom (#35)
Caring for a Christian is not optional, it is an imperative from God.
#38. To: Skip Intro (#32)
(Edited)
#39. To: Ferret Mike (#34)
(Edited)
#40. To: A K A Stone (#39)
#41. To: Ferret Mike (#40)
So, you think all people who say they are Christain are actually Christians?
#42. To: A K A Stone (#41)
#43. To: A K A Stone (#41)
#44. To: Skip Intro (#37)
Protecting the rich and well off is the imperative; everybody else can fend for themselves.
#45. To: Ferret Mike (#43)
#46. To: A K A Stone (#45)
#47. To: lucysmom (#31)
Some of them did it to themselves so why should I care.... They chose the path of their lives and they need to deal with the consequences of their choices... It's not my or your responsibility to help them out, it's theirs!!!
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
#48. To: Skip Intro (#30)
So I assume that if you have a house, you're not wasting any money on house insurance, and same goes for car insurance.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
#49. To: CZ82 (#48)
what religion is that
#50. To: CZ82 (#47)
So you don't believe in being responsible for ones actions???
#51. To: lucysmom (#50)
Most religions I know of encourage individual responsibility AND care and compassion for others. It is not an either or proposition.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
#52. To: lucysmom (#50)
Some people have pre-existing conditions that make them uninsurable, or the cost is prohibitive. Some people are children and can't choose for themselves. Some people are disabled in a way that precludes them from working and/or making responsible choices.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
#53. To: CZ82 (#51)
But then again if "YOU" want to help those "STUPID ONES" that I just mentioned then please feel free to do so with "YOUR OWN MONEY".....
#54. To: lucysmom (#53)
But then again if "YOU" want to help those "STUPID ONES" that I just mentioned then please feel free to do so with "YOUR OWN MONEY".....
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
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