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Title: 'I am a girl': The plight of Tammy, the adopted son of two lesbians who started sex change aged 8 because he has always maintained he is a girl
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Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... ormone-blocking-treatment.html
Published: Sep 29, 2011
Author: John Stevens
Post Date: 2011-09-29 22:29:04 by Sebastian
Keywords: None
Views: 126861
Comments: 212
A boy who started the process of changing sex at age eight has told how he always knew he was meant to be a girl. Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment in Berkeley, California to stop him going through puberty as a boy. His two lesbian mothers, who adopted him aged two, say that they have been criticised by friends and family, but insist they have not forced their son to become a girl. Scroll down for video Therapy: Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment No pressure: The boy's two lesbian adopted mothers, Debra, left, and Pauline, right, say that they have not forced their son to become a girl They say that one of the first things he told them when he learnt sign language aged three, learned because of a speech impediment, was, 'I am a girl'. Tammy, now 11, wears dresses and effectively lives as a girl. His parents, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, say that their son, who they claim was depressed at a younger age and threatened to chop of his own penis, is now much happier. The couple were married in 1990 by a rabbi, according to Pauline's Facebook page, and have two older sons and grandchildren. PROUD MOM: Two photos of Tammy from one of Pauline's Facebook albums called 'My Sweet Sweet Princess' Here is Tammy with her mothers and older brother Edgar at his recent bar mitzvah. Mother Pauline said Tammy was shy and unhappy as a boy when compared to her older, outgoing brothers Unlike his older brothers who are both described at outgoing and athletic, Thomas liked to read Wonder Woman comic books and play with dolls. He shunned baseball hats, preferring rhinestone hair accessories. At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, therapists and psychiatrists diagnosed Tammy with gender identity disorder. A year later his parents allowed him to start the first step of his transition to becoming female by letting him pick his own clothes and wear bras. Tammy favor headbands to baseball hats and picked out bras and dresses to start wearing when given choice in clothing to wear 'As soon as we let him put on a dress, his personality changed from a very sad kid who sat still, didn't do much of anything to a very happy little girl who was thrilled to be alive,' one mother Pauline told CNN. This summer, Tammy started taking hormone-blocking drugs, which will stop him from experiencing puberty. The hormone-suppressant will postpone the 11-year-old developing broad shoulders, deep voice and facial hair.The diagnosis has been hard to accept for Tammy's parents, but they insist their sexuality has nothing to do with it. As Pauline said, people think 'we're pushing her to do this. I'm a lesbian. My partner is a lesbian. That suddenly falls into the fold: "Oh, you want her to be part of the lifestyle you guys live".' Unhappy: Tammy was adopted aged two by Debra Lobel and Pauline Moreno But they insist that is not the case and the decision has been difficult. His parents say the hormone treatment will give him time to figure out if he wants to fully transition to being female or go through puberty as a boy. If he chooses to stop taking the drugs, he will undergo natural male puberty at a later stage and his future fertility would not be impacted. Should he decide to transition to an adult female, he can take female hormones as well, which would raise his voice, grow breasts and develop other feminine physical characteristics. Pauline and Debra have been married since 1990, when they were joined in a commitment ceremony by their rabbi San Francisco, right by Berkeley, is one of four cities in the United States with a hospital that has a program for transgender children. The University of California San Francisco is home to the Center of Excellence for Transgender Health. Children are seen at length by mental health professionals and then treated by pediatric endocrinologists. Others cities with youth programs are Boston, Seattle and Los Angeles. Watch the video report: 
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#11. To: Sebastian (#0)
Two moms. No he doesn't have two moms. You can only have one mom. By the way that isn't a picture of a family. It is a picture of two sex perverts destroying a little boy. Gee I wish Jerry Brown would have them executed for crimes against this innocent little boy.
Do you actually think Jerry Brown is going to do anything about this???? If he did he would be pissing off almost everyone who voted for him.......
Tell me, what should he do about Cher? After all, Chaz was her daughter originally. Should she be executed, too? Are you in favor of governors executing people just because they feel like it, like Stone is?
Are you in favor of governors executing people just because they feel like it, like Stone is? Personally I could care less about Cher and her daughter, they can be as messed up in the head as they want..... They can also keep their problems to themselves and deal with them without soliciting tolerance/approval/pity from others!!!! That right there is the reason why most people don't care/like gays.... As far as the governor executing people well it's up to him or her if they let court mandated justice take it's course, or pardon the offender..... If the court decides it's your time to assume room temperature for some crime you've commited then so be it..... So let me ask you a question, do think think pedophilia, necrophilia and pederasty should be socially acceptable like homosexuality????
I saw no mention of the courts in Stone's response, did you? As to your question, no I don't.
As to your question, no I don't. No I didn't and I figured you knew when someone was pulling your chain, guess not!!!! As it stands right now it is beyond his power to execute people, and as far as I'm concerned it should stay that way... Then you should be against open homosexuality too, because a lot of them commit those heinous acts I mentioned in my last post......
Homosexuals are very normal people who have a different preference for partners than you, that's it. The status was destigmatized in 1972 precisely because homosexual people matched heterosexual people in every aspect of life but for one minor difference. Your problem is your unreasonable and malicious bigotry that just makes someone like you the afflicted one here.
Do you seriously believe the ability to procreate and propagate the species versus an inability to procreate and propagate the species is 'one minor difference'?
Plenty of gays and lesbians have children. They make as good guardians or parents as anyone else. Besides, the species has cuccessfully procreated and thrived with homosexuality as part of the human sexual makeup since there were humans, so why should that suddenly change now? Your statement makes as little sense as lamenting older man/woman couples past the age of child bearing, or infertile people having sex thus endangering the survival of the species. Your argument is a red herring and stinks like one that has been stuck in a car's heater vent for a week.
The fact remains that homosexual activity cannot produce off-spring. You may enjoy sodomy but it will not result in pregnancy.
So what? Are you trying to claim people should only have sex when a pregnancy will be the result,and that this should be the law of the land?
Absolutely not. My claim is as follows: homosexual acts between humans (as gratifying as those acts may be) cannot and will not result in the furtherance of the species via biological inheritance. Just ain't gonna happen.
No argument there. The argument is with the line of thinking that allows (yeah,just like it could be prevented!)heterosexual couples to enjoy recreational sex in private,while denying homosexual couples this same right,and then basing your prejudices on the fact that homosexual couples can't reproduce. I am NOT saying this is what YOU think. I am saying this seems to be what a lot of people on the anti-homosexual bandwagon seem to think. I have no particular love for homosexuals or the "homosexual lifestyle",but this is America,and ALL Americans have the same legal RIGHTS. If the government can get away with using their power to arrest or fine homosexuals for having sex,the government also has the same authority to arrest heterosexuals for having sex. We are either all free,or none of us is free.
I agree that's the way it should be. But it seems some groups have (and other groups want) special protections.
Special protections from what? Being legislated against?
Having their sensitive feeling hurt, dick.
You made the statement, vagina. What "special protections" are "they" demanding beyond wanting to be left alone?
Indeed I did,dick. Employment Non-Discrimination Act, dick. Get someone to read it to you, dick. Then find someone to explain it to you, dick.
And it makes as much sense now as it did then, Vag. None. Employment Non-Discrimination Act, dick. What about it, Vag? Get someone to read it to you, dick. Some of us can read on our own, Vag. Then find someone to explain it to you, dick. And some of us can understand what it is that we read, Vag. Are you going to get around to answering the original question, Vag: Special protections from what? Being legislated against? PS: ENDA isn't law.
Take it or leave it, dick.
Chuckles...PMS, Vag? You cited legislation that has never passed a chamber as proof of what? That like any other Snappin' Gyro you talk a lot while really saying nothing?
Suffer from ADD, dick? Focus, dick. You just may be able to figure it out, dick. But whether you can or can't, dick, that's all you get.
I'm not the Vag here, Vag. Focus, dick. For some reason "focus" and "dick" seems to be an intuitively interactive dynamic for you... You just may be able to figure it out, dick. I HAVE it figured out Captain Clitty of the SS Bearded Clam..you need to get the last word in without saying anything - just like any other vag...
Might be time for you just to pack up your diddy-bag and head on off to another thread, dick. You're starting to drool all over this one, dick.
That proves you're not Dick Tracy, dick.
Ao contraire, Captain Clitty, I have an official designation from Detective Tracy hisself that I am indeed a valued Junior Crime Fighter.
Congratulations, dick! And the thread got a thousand views, dick. Thanks for playing along, dick, it's been a hoot!
Well of course you care about such a BIG number...being the small, yet sensitive patch of skin that you are, Captain Clitty... One of my threads had over 1000 replies... Try harder...
Sounds too much like work, dick
Oh...that's right...you're a clit...it's someone else's job to take care of you...
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestHere is Tammy with her mothers
#21. To: A K A Stone (#11)
Gee I wish Jerry Brown would have them executed for crimes against this innocent little boy.
#23. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#21)
Do you actually think Jerry Brown is going to do anything about this????
#27. To: Skip Intro (#23)
Do you actually think Jerry Brown is going to do anything about this???? Tell me, what should he do about Cher? After all, Chaz was her daughter originally. Should she be executed, too?
#33. To: CZ82 (#27)
If the court decides it's your time to assume room temperature for some crime you've commited then so be it.....
#49. To: Skip Intro (#33)
(Edited)
I saw no mention of the courts in Stone's response, did you?
#50. To: CZ82 (#49)
#59. To: Ferret Mike (#50)
The status was destigmatized in 1972 precisely because homosexual people matched heterosexual people in every aspect of life but for one minor difference.
#60. To: Sebastian (#59)
#64. To: Ferret Mike (#60)
Your argument is a red herring and stinks like one that has been stuck in a car's heater vent for a week.
#85. To: Sebastian (#64)
You may enjoy sodomy but it will not result in pregnancy.
#129. To: sneakypete (#85)
Are you trying to claim people should only have sex when a pregnancy will be the result,and that this should be the law of the land?
#137. To: Sebastian (#129)
My claim is as follows: homosexual acts between humans (as gratifying as those acts may be) cannot and will not result in the furtherance of the species via biological inheritance.
#138. To: sneakypete (#137)
this is America,and ALL Americans have the same legal RIGHTS
#139. To: Sebastian (#138)
But it seems some groups have (and other groups want) special protections.
#140. To: war (#139)
Special protections from what? Being legislated against?
#141. To: Sebastian (#140)
(Edited)
Having their sensitive feeling hurt, dick.
#156. To: war (#141)
You made the statement
#157. To: Sebastian (#156)
(Edited)
Indeed I did,dick.
#164. To: war (#157)
Are you going to get around to answering the original question, Vag:
#165. To: Sebastian (#164)
Take it or leave it, dick.
#166. To: war (#165)
You cited legislation that has never passed a chamber as proof of what?
#167. To: Sebastian (#166)
Suffer from ADD, dick?
#168. To: war (#167)
I HAVE it figured out Captain Clitty of the SS Bearded Clam..you need to get the last word in without saying anything - just like any other vag...
#169. To: Sebastian (#168)
I HAVE it figured out Captain Clitty of the SS Bearded Clam..you need to get the last word in without saying anything - just like any other vag...
#205. To: war (#169)
I HAVE it figured out Captain Clitty of the SS Bearded Clam..you need to get the last word in without saying anything - just like any other vag...
#206. To: Sebastian (#205)
That proves you're not Dick Tracy, dick.
#207. To: war (#206)
Ao contraire, Captain Clitty, I have an official designation from Detective Tracy hisself that I am indeed a valued Junior Crime Fighter.
#208. To: Sebastian (#207)
And the thread got a thousand views, dick.
#211. To: war (#208)
Try harder
#212. To: Sebastian (#211)
Sounds too much like work, dick
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