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Title: 'I am a girl': The plight of Tammy, the adopted son of two lesbians who started sex change aged 8 because he has always maintained he is a girl
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Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... ormone-blocking-treatment.html
Published: Sep 29, 2011
Author: John Stevens
Post Date: 2011-09-29 22:29:04 by Sebastian
Keywords: None
Views: 126852
Comments: 212
A boy who started the process of changing sex at age eight has told how he always knew he was meant to be a girl. Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment in Berkeley, California to stop him going through puberty as a boy. His two lesbian mothers, who adopted him aged two, say that they have been criticised by friends and family, but insist they have not forced their son to become a girl. Scroll down for video Therapy: Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment No pressure: The boy's two lesbian adopted mothers, Debra, left, and Pauline, right, say that they have not forced their son to become a girl They say that one of the first things he told them when he learnt sign language aged three, learned because of a speech impediment, was, 'I am a girl'. Tammy, now 11, wears dresses and effectively lives as a girl. His parents, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, say that their son, who they claim was depressed at a younger age and threatened to chop of his own penis, is now much happier. The couple were married in 1990 by a rabbi, according to Pauline's Facebook page, and have two older sons and grandchildren. PROUD MOM: Two photos of Tammy from one of Pauline's Facebook albums called 'My Sweet Sweet Princess' Here is Tammy with her mothers and older brother Edgar at his recent bar mitzvah. Mother Pauline said Tammy was shy and unhappy as a boy when compared to her older, outgoing brothers Unlike his older brothers who are both described at outgoing and athletic, Thomas liked to read Wonder Woman comic books and play with dolls. He shunned baseball hats, preferring rhinestone hair accessories. At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, therapists and psychiatrists diagnosed Tammy with gender identity disorder. A year later his parents allowed him to start the first step of his transition to becoming female by letting him pick his own clothes and wear bras. Tammy favor headbands to baseball hats and picked out bras and dresses to start wearing when given choice in clothing to wear 'As soon as we let him put on a dress, his personality changed from a very sad kid who sat still, didn't do much of anything to a very happy little girl who was thrilled to be alive,' one mother Pauline told CNN. This summer, Tammy started taking hormone-blocking drugs, which will stop him from experiencing puberty. The hormone-suppressant will postpone the 11-year-old developing broad shoulders, deep voice and facial hair.The diagnosis has been hard to accept for Tammy's parents, but they insist their sexuality has nothing to do with it. As Pauline said, people think 'we're pushing her to do this. I'm a lesbian. My partner is a lesbian. That suddenly falls into the fold: "Oh, you want her to be part of the lifestyle you guys live".' Unhappy: Tammy was adopted aged two by Debra Lobel and Pauline Moreno But they insist that is not the case and the decision has been difficult. His parents say the hormone treatment will give him time to figure out if he wants to fully transition to being female or go through puberty as a boy. If he chooses to stop taking the drugs, he will undergo natural male puberty at a later stage and his future fertility would not be impacted. Should he decide to transition to an adult female, he can take female hormones as well, which would raise his voice, grow breasts and develop other feminine physical characteristics. Pauline and Debra have been married since 1990, when they were joined in a commitment ceremony by their rabbi San Francisco, right by Berkeley, is one of four cities in the United States with a hospital that has a program for transgender children. The University of California San Francisco is home to the Center of Excellence for Transgender Health. Children are seen at length by mental health professionals and then treated by pediatric endocrinologists. Others cities with youth programs are Boston, Seattle and Los Angeles. Watch the video report: 
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#11. To: Sebastian (#0)
Two moms. No he doesn't have two moms. You can only have one mom. By the way that isn't a picture of a family. It is a picture of two sex perverts destroying a little boy. Gee I wish Jerry Brown would have them executed for crimes against this innocent little boy.
Do you actually think Jerry Brown is going to do anything about this???? If he did he would be pissing off almost everyone who voted for him.......
Tell me, what should he do about Cher? After all, Chaz was her daughter originally. Should she be executed, too? Are you in favor of governors executing people just because they feel like it, like Stone is?
Are you in favor of governors executing people just because they feel like it, like Stone is? Personally I could care less about Cher and her daughter, they can be as messed up in the head as they want..... They can also keep their problems to themselves and deal with them without soliciting tolerance/approval/pity from others!!!! That right there is the reason why most people don't care/like gays.... As far as the governor executing people well it's up to him or her if they let court mandated justice take it's course, or pardon the offender..... If the court decides it's your time to assume room temperature for some crime you've commited then so be it..... So let me ask you a question, do think think pedophilia, necrophilia and pederasty should be socially acceptable like homosexuality????
I saw no mention of the courts in Stone's response, did you? As to your question, no I don't.
As to your question, no I don't. No I didn't and I figured you knew when someone was pulling your chain, guess not!!!! As it stands right now it is beyond his power to execute people, and as far as I'm concerned it should stay that way... Then you should be against open homosexuality too, because a lot of them commit those heinous acts I mentioned in my last post......
Homosexuals are very normal people who have a different preference for partners than you, that's it. The status was destigmatized in 1972 precisely because homosexual people matched heterosexual people in every aspect of life but for one minor difference. Your problem is your unreasonable and malicious bigotry that just makes someone like you the afflicted one here.
Do you seriously believe the ability to procreate and propagate the species versus an inability to procreate and propagate the species is 'one minor difference'?
Plenty of gays and lesbians have children. They make as good guardians or parents as anyone else. Besides, the species has cuccessfully procreated and thrived with homosexuality as part of the human sexual makeup since there were humans, so why should that suddenly change now? Your statement makes as little sense as lamenting older man/woman couples past the age of child bearing, or infertile people having sex thus endangering the survival of the species. Your argument is a red herring and stinks like one that has been stuck in a car's heater vent for a week.
The fact remains that homosexual activity cannot produce off-spring. You may enjoy sodomy but it will not result in pregnancy.
And your point fails to take into account for the many gay and lesbian people who have indeed produced children and who make great adoptive parents and guardians for children needing a stable and protective home. By your logic sex should be illegal unless a couple can bear young. Which is a short step from criminalizing any sex not reproductive in nature.
If so, then it was done through heterosexual sex or artificial insemination. If tomorrow, every human practiced homosexuality exclusively, the species would fail. Homosexuality is a failed lifestyle. Enjoy it as you will, homosexual sex acts between humans cannot result in pregnancy and thankfully, do not contribute to the gene pool.
You think I didn't know this? So? Just as many heterosexuals experiment with homosexuality, homosexuals often have had heterosexual relationships. They contribute all the time. And they give others the chance to contribute to the gene pool too. In the 1980s I provided the material for friends of mine to have a child who is a very healthy and happy little girl who loves her two Moms. She knows me casually but we have never shared this knowlege with her as there is no need to her having two excellent parents and role models to love and charish as parents. Eugene, Oregon has a huge number of lesbian couples and it is not generally known for this large community. I have three women couples within two blocks of my place and this is not an uncommon thing here. There are many lesbians on the Eugene Police Force, some in high leadership positions, and they have been city councilwomen, and it is illegal to discriminate against gays, lesbians and transgendered people in Eugene, Oregon in any way including in housing and employment. Being openly homophobic here is not a good idea. It is very much a good way to wind up in jail in a hurry. Especially if you do it in the Whiteaker Neigborhood.
Nope. Just doesn't happen. BI-SEXUALS who are predominately heterosexual may experiment with homosexuality,but a true heterosexual would never even consider doing that. In the 1980s I provided the material for friends of mine to have a child who is a very healthy and happy little girl who loves her two Moms. She knows me casually but we have never shared this knowlege with her as there is no need to her having two excellent parents and role models to love and charish as parents. Uhhh,sooner or later it is going to occur to her that there was a red-headed Irishman in the woodpile. Especially once she starts taking biology classes in elementary school. Questions ARE going to be asked,and she deserves answers. it is illegal to discriminate against gays, lesbians and transgendered people in Eugene, Oregon in any way including in housing and employment. It is illegal for the GOVERNMENT to discriminate against them anywhere in the United States. This is according to the Bill of Rights. According to the Bill of Rights,it is also illegal for local,state,or the feral government to use the force of government to prevent PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS from discriminating against anydamnbody they want to discriminate against. This IS the law of the land,and no bullshit PC law passed in Eugene or anywhere else supercedes the Bill of Rights. Being openly homophobic here is not a good idea. It is very much a good way to wind up in jail in a hurry. Especially if you do it in the Whiteaker Neigborhood. If I were a wealthy man that could afford to pay the lawyers,you can bet your ass I would be in the Whiteaker area of Eugene tomorrow morning,screaming shit about dykes and faries at the top of my lungs and just hoping I would get arrested for it. By the time the dust settled I'd own the fucking city.
Where is it in the bill or rights that homosexuals have some right because of their choice to be perverts? Or did you mean that they have rights like the rest of us that have nothing to do with their hang up?
ALL CITIZENS HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS. Ever heard of the Preamble to the US Constitution? It sets forth the goals and intents of the US Constitution. Read it and weep. We don't have "special classes" of citizens in this country with more rights than other citizens. Or at least we are not supposed to,despite the insanity brought forth by the Civil Wrongs Act of 1964. A citizen that just happens to be a homosexual has EXACTLY the same rights as you or me. No more and no fewer. EXACTLY the same rights. If it were any other way,it wouldn't be America.
Yeah the exact same thing I said in my post 93 that you didn't bother with. That doesn't include marriage though. And it isn't discrimination as marriage has a definition of a man and a woman. Any homo man can marry any homo woman. Two homo men will never be married no matter how much you or faggot Mike cries about it.
That doesn't include marriage though. Yeah,they have the same rights,except for when they don't,right? And it isn't discrimination as marriage has a definition of a man and a woman. No,it doesn't. Look up the definition in any dictionary. For example,a welder "marries" two pieces of steel together when he joins them. Any homo man can marry any homo woman. Two homo men will never be married no matter how much you or faggot Mike cries about it. HorseHillary. These are your religious superstitions speaking,NOT facts. Marriage is a CIVIL/SOCIAL act,not a religious act. You and your fellow religious cult members or the members of any other religious cult have a absolute right to determine who may and who may not be married within your religion by one of your cult leaders,but you do NOT have the authority nor will you EVER have the authority to make the determination as to who can and can not be married in a civil ceremony.
#116. To: sneakypete (#114)
I'll just call you a dumb ass on this one. No need addressing it.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestHere is Tammy with her mothers
#21. To: A K A Stone (#11)
Gee I wish Jerry Brown would have them executed for crimes against this innocent little boy.
#23. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#21)
Do you actually think Jerry Brown is going to do anything about this????
#27. To: Skip Intro (#23)
Do you actually think Jerry Brown is going to do anything about this???? Tell me, what should he do about Cher? After all, Chaz was her daughter originally. Should she be executed, too?
#33. To: CZ82 (#27)
If the court decides it's your time to assume room temperature for some crime you've commited then so be it.....
#49. To: Skip Intro (#33)
(Edited)
I saw no mention of the courts in Stone's response, did you?
#50. To: CZ82 (#49)
#59. To: Ferret Mike (#50)
The status was destigmatized in 1972 precisely because homosexual people matched heterosexual people in every aspect of life but for one minor difference.
#60. To: Sebastian (#59)
#64. To: Ferret Mike (#60)
Your argument is a red herring and stinks like one that has been stuck in a car's heater vent for a week.
#65. To: Sebastian (#64)
#67. To: Ferret Mike (#65)
And your point fails to take into account for the many gay and lesbian people who have indeed produced children
#69. To: Sebastian (#67)
(Edited)
"If so, then it was done through heterosexual sex or artificial insemination."
"Homosexuality is a failed lifestyle. Enjoy it as you will, homosexual sex acts between humans cannot result in pregnancy and thankfully, do not contribute to the gene pool".
#88. To: Ferret Mike (#69)
(Edited)
Just as many heterosexuals experiment with homosexuality
#93. To: sneakypete (#88)
It is illegal for the GOVERNMENT to discriminate against them anywhere in the United States. This is according to the Bill of Rights.
#100. To: A K A Stone (#93)
Where is it in the bill or rights that homosexuals have some right because of their choice to be perverts?
#103. To: sneakypete (#100)
A citizen that just happens to be a homosexual has EXACTLY the same rights as you or me. No more and no fewer. EXACTLY the same rights.
#114. To: A K A Stone (#103)
Yeah the exact same thing I said in my post 93 that you didn't bother with.
Replies to Comment # 114. HorseHillary. These are your religious superstitions speaking,NOT facts. Marriage is a CIVIL/SOCIAL act,not a religious act. You and your fellow religious cult members or the members of any other religious cult have a absolute right to determine who may and who may not be married within your religion by one of your cult leaders,but you do NOT have the authority nor will you EVER have the authority to make the determination as to who can and can not be married in a civil ceremony.
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