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Title: As Scorn for Vote Grows, Protests Surge Around Globe
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New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/w ... urge-around-globe.html?_r=1&hp
Published: Sep 27, 2011
Author: NICHOLAS KULISH
Post Date: 2011-09-29 12:00:26 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 4350
Comments: 13
MADRID — Hundreds of thousands of disillusioned Indians cheer a rural activist on a hunger strike. Israel reels before the largest street demonstrations in its history. Enraged young people in Spain and Greece take over public squares across their countries. Their complaints range from corruption to lack of affordable housing and joblessness, common grievances the world over. But from South Asia to the heartland of Europe and now even to Wall Street, these protesters share something else: wariness, even contempt, toward traditional politicians and the democratic political process they preside over. They are taking to the streets, in part, because they have little faith in the ballot box. snip Economics have been one driving force, with growing income inequality, high unemployment and recession-driven cuts in social spending breeding widespread malaise. Alienation runs especially deep in Europe, with boycotts and strikes that, in London and Athens, erupted into violence. But even in India and Israel, where growth remains robust, protesters say they so distrust their country’s political class and its pandering to established interest groups that they feel only an assault on the system itself can bring about real change.
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#1. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, mininggold, brian s, mcgowanjm (#0)
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
“We’re the first generation to say that voting is worthless.” Read my tagline. Government should go away. Cooperatives, mutual aid societies, charities, and businesses can do a much better job in creating a good society than can power hungry politicians and lazy government bureaucrats. You leftists took a wrong turn 150 years ago. You should have listened to Mikhail Bakunin instead of Karl Marx. Had you done that, we wouldn't have these all powerful governments that are destroying the world.
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The article she posted, confirms my words which- ironically- she made her own signature. It's nice to know she's so proud, as to verify my words to her with every post she makes. :)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24347&Disp=35#C35 "The state has always been the patrimony of some privileged class: a priestly class, an aristocratic class, a bourgeois class. And finally, when all the other classes have exhausted themselves, the State then becomes the patrimony of the bureaucratic class and then falls — or, if you will, rises — to the position of a machine." -- Mikhail Bakunin, 1872 This is exactly what we have today. The bureaucratic class, including the teachers' unions, who are destroying our country, must be fought at all costs. The left took a very wrong turn 150 years ago. It's time for them to admit their century plus old mistake and correct their course.
It's sad to see things get this bad,but really good to see that people all over the globe are waking up to become aware of the dangers of globalism,and are taking steps to let their anger be know while this is still possible. Those of us in America tend to focus on what is happening in America,but we need to think global,too. We need to think global because America has historically represented the beacon of light in the dark that represented hope and freedom to almost everybody in the world that was even aware that America existed. Those of you who are anti-American,and you know who you are,may not like this,but the cold hard truth is that America is STILL the bastion of individual freedoms and rights,and that once America falls the rest of the sovereign nations in the world will also fall. We need to do what we can do as individuals to make sure any people we know have contract with that live in foreign countries become aware of what is going on and what THEY have to lose once America is lost.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Nov 2011
Yeah,and it should snow ice cream. Cooperatives, mutual aid societies, charities, and businesses .... Are all forms of government. Like it or not,government is a necessary evil. Without government you can own nothing you can't carry on you,and your children can never safely leave your compound. Any argument to get rid of all government is foolish. The focus should be on creating an efficient government that understands they are the servants of the people instead of the masters. And this does NOT mean some damnfool democracy. Democracy is nothing but mob rule.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Nov 2011
The left took a very wrong turn 150 years ago. It's time for them to admit their century plus old mistake and correct their course. It's interesting you post that. Just today I've tried to take a somewhat softer tone with an LF poster who politically is mostly on the other side of most issues. That may or may not work out - we'll see. But what prompted it is this: I came to the realization that probably 80 to 90 percent of the posters here - regardless of which side of the faux left/right paradigm they think they're on - could really be allies in the larger struggle. And the larger struggle - as I see it - is the "ruling" class vs. the "ruled" class. The ruling class - consisting of statists and/or bureaucrats of both the D and R variety - has a vested interest in keeping the "ruled" class at each other's throats. Because if we ever stop and realize who the REAL enemy is, it won't end well. For them. (I said 80 or 90 percent. That allows for the 10 to 20 percent for whom there is no hope. Probably union members, current gov't workers or retirees.)
__________________________________________________________________________________________ I think the problem is that there are many "wingnuts" whether they are left or right types who fancy themselves being a member of the "ruling" class. I believe this mental aberration is quite common. They seem to be too stupid to realize that at the top of the "ruling" class food chain are the very ruthless and evil entities who will swallow them and their fantasies in an instant.
Then let them do it and stop whining.
"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric
Agree completely.
__________________________________________________________________________________________ And the larger struggle - as I see it - is the "ruling" class vs. the "ruled" class. The ruling class - consisting of statists and/or bureaucrats of both the D and R variety - has a vested interest in keeping the "ruled" class at each other's throats. Because if we ever stop and realize who the REAL enemy is, it won't end well. For them. My guess is that most of the leftists on this board are either government bureaucrats (including school teachers) or retired government bureaucrats. There is no way that they are going to become allies in anything worthwhile.
Yonatan Levi, 26, called the tent cities that sprang up in Israel “a beautiful anarchy.” There were leaderless discussion circles like Internet chat rooms, governed, he said, by “emoticon” hand gestures like crossed forearms to signal disagreement with the latest speaker, hands held up and wiggling in the air for agreement — the same hand signs used in public assemblies in Spain. There were free lessons and food, based on the Internet conviction that everything should be available without charge.
#2. To: lucysmom (#0)
They are taking to the streets, in part, because they have little faith in the ballot box.
That government is best which governs not at all -- Henry David Thoreau
#3. To: All, capitalist eric (#2)
That government is best which governs not at all -- Henry David Thoreau
#4. To: All, capitalist eric, liberator (#2)
That government is best which governs not at all -- Henry David Thoreau
#5. To: jwpegler (#4)
(Edited)
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff? 
#6. To: all, capitalist eric, liberator, Get Outta Dodge!, We The People, eskimo, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, buckeroo, CZ82 (#0)
That government is best which governs not at all -- Henry David Thoreau
#7. To: lucysmom (#0)
(Edited)
They are taking to the streets, in part, because they have little faith in the ballot box.
#8. To: jwpegler (#2)
Government should go away.
#9. To: jwpegler (#6)
This is exactly what we have today. The bureaucratic class, including the teachers' unions, who are destroying our country, must be fought at all costs.
ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!
#10. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#9)
The ruling class - consisting of statists and/or bureaucrats of both the D and R variety - has a vested interest in keeping the "ruled" class at each other's throats. Because if we ever stop and realize who the REAL enemy is, it won't end well. For them.
#11. To: jwpegler (#2)
Cooperatives, mutual aid societies, charities, and businesses can do a much better job in creating a good society than can power hungry politicians and lazy government bureaucrats.
#12. To: eskimo (#10)
I think the problem is that there are many "wingnuts" whether they are left or right types who fancy themselves being a member of the "ruling" class. I believe this mental aberration is quite common. They seem to be too stupid to realize that at the top of the "ruling" class food chain are the very ruthless and evil entities who will swallow them and their fantasies in an instant.
ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!
#13. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#9)
But what prompted it is this: I came to the realization that probably 80 to 90 percent of the posters here - regardless of which side of the faux left/right paradigm they think they're on - could really be allies in the larger struggle.
That government is best which governs not at all -- Henry David Thoreau
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