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Title: As Scorn for Vote Grows, Protests Surge Around Globe
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/w ... urge-around-globe.html?_r=1&hp
Published: Sep 27, 2011
Author: NICHOLAS KULISH
Post Date: 2011-09-29 12:00:26 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 4246
Comments: 13

MADRID — Hundreds of thousands of disillusioned Indians cheer a rural activist on a hunger strike. Israel reels before the largest street demonstrations in its history. Enraged young people in Spain and Greece take over public squares across their countries.

Their complaints range from corruption to lack of affordable housing and joblessness, common grievances the world over. But from South Asia to the heartland of Europe and now even to Wall Street, these protesters share something else: wariness, even contempt, toward traditional politicians and the democratic political process they preside over.

They are taking to the streets, in part, because they have little faith in the ballot box.

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Economics have been one driving force, with growing income inequality, high unemployment and recession-driven cuts in social spending breeding widespread malaise. Alienation runs especially deep in Europe, with boycotts and strikes that, in London and Athens, erupted into violence.

But even in India and Israel, where growth remains robust, protesters say they so distrust their country’s political class and its pandering to established interest groups that they feel only an assault on the system itself can bring about real change.

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#6. To: all, capitalist eric, liberator, Get Outta Dodge!, We The People, eskimo, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, buckeroo, CZ82 (#0)

"The state has always been the patrimony of some privileged class: a priestly class, an aristocratic class, a bourgeois class. And finally, when all the other classes have exhausted themselves, the State then becomes the patrimony of the bureaucratic class and then falls — or, if you will, rises — to the position of a machine." -- Mikhail Bakunin, 1872

This is exactly what we have today. The bureaucratic class, including the teachers' unions, who are destroying our country, must be fought at all costs.

The left took a very wrong turn 150 years ago. It's time for them to admit their century plus old mistake and correct their course.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-29   18:41:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#6)

This is exactly what we have today. The bureaucratic class, including the teachers' unions, who are destroying our country, must be fought at all costs.

The left took a very wrong turn 150 years ago. It's time for them to admit their century plus old mistake and correct their course.

It's interesting you post that.

Just today I've tried to take a somewhat softer tone with an LF poster who politically is mostly on the other side of most issues. That may or may not work out - we'll see.

But what prompted it is this: I came to the realization that probably 80 to 90 percent of the posters here - regardless of which side of the faux left/right paradigm they think they're on - could really be allies in the larger struggle.

And the larger struggle - as I see it - is the "ruling" class vs. the "ruled" class.

The ruling class - consisting of statists and/or bureaucrats of both the D and R variety - has a vested interest in keeping the "ruled" class at each other's throats. Because if we ever stop and realize who the REAL enemy is, it won't end well. For them.

(I said 80 or 90 percent. That allows for the 10 to 20 percent for whom there is no hope. Probably union members, current gov't workers or retirees.)

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   20:17:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#9)

But what prompted it is this: I came to the realization that probably 80 to 90 percent of the posters here - regardless of which side of the faux left/right paradigm they think they're on - could really be allies in the larger struggle.

And the larger struggle - as I see it - is the "ruling" class vs. the "ruled" class.

The ruling class - consisting of statists and/or bureaucrats of both the D and R variety - has a vested interest in keeping the "ruled" class at each other's throats. Because if we ever stop and realize who the REAL enemy is, it won't end well. For them.

My guess is that most of the leftists on this board are either government bureaucrats (including school teachers) or retired government bureaucrats.

There is no way that they are going to become allies in anything worthwhile.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-30   11:56:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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