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Title: Allen West (R-FL): ‘Marxist’ Obama Intentionally Destroying Economy
Source: Breitbart TV
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.tv/allen-west- ... entionally-destroying-economy/
Published: Sep 29, 2011
Author: 950 radio
Post Date: 2011-09-29 08:24:52 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Allan West, Obamanomics in Action, sabotage
Views: 35196
Comments: 59

"It's intentional because that's who this President is. The President is a Marxist who believes in the separation of classes."

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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Federal Reserve 1907...;}

then 1928 Florida Housing implosion. Hoover...

Smoot Hawley and 1937.

1947.

JFK shot.

Nixon Defaults.

Reagan crushes inflationa and unions. Reagan Greenspan Debt Derivatices Act of 1982.

USSR collapse.

2000 Selection. 9/11.

Obama & March 09, sides with Banksters/Generals to Steal SS Funds/Slash Medicare.

Fukushima & Collapse of the USSA....

"FINRA Drowning In Complaints About Market Manipulation

“Whether it is due to the general investing public finally realizing that the market is neither fair nor efficient, that the scales are tipped against the common man from the moment the ‘Buy’ (or, more rarely, ‘Short’) button is pressed, or that as the past two years have shown the market is dominated by insider trading, “expert networks” and big legacy investors surviving only due to the government’s intervention on their behalf at critical times, is unknown, but Finra is now officially and finally drowning in a barrage of complaints about market manipulation. And to be sure such glaring reminders as 30 year-old UBS traders being singlehandedly responsible (of course, nobody noticed anything over the months and months of creeping illegal trades) for massive cumulative losses that amount to more than the entire net income for the bank (an odd and convenient scapegoat that), will surely not make Finra’s life any easier."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-29   8:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Happy Quanzaa, lucysmom (#0)

The President is a Marxist who believes in the separation of classes."

I thought rich people living in gated communities sought separation of the classes intentionally.....

"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts

Godwinson  posted on  2011-09-29   9:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Godwinson (#2)

I thought rich people living in gated communities sought separation of the classes intentionally.....

Shhhhh ... you're not supposed to notice that.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   11:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Are there any sane Republicans, or is that an oxymoron?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-29   11:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

“Whether it is due to the general investing public finally realizing that the market is neither fair nor efficient, that the scales are tipped against the common man from the moment the ‘Buy’ (or, more rarely, ‘Short’) button is pressed, or that as the past two years have shown the market is dominated by insider trading, “expert networks” and big legacy investors surviving only due to the government’s intervention on their behalf at critical times, is unknown, but Finra is now officially and finally drowning in a barrage of complaints about market manipulation.

My grandpappy told me in the 1960's...... "never invest in an @%&# (entity) where others make the rules, and can change or break them with impunity".

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-29   12:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

"It's intentional because that's who this President is. The President is a Marxist who believes in the separation of classes."

Yeah, same old crap. The self-proclaimed elite and socialist administrators abscond with all the wealth and leave all the dupes in the socialist utopia in abject poverty. Good grief, this has been the only fate of any socialist utopia in human history, why are there still enough dupes who keep falling for this scam and destroying societies with their stupidity.

eskimo  posted on  2011-09-29   12:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: eskimo (#6)

The self-proclaimed elite and socialist administrators abscond with all the wealth and leave all the dupes in the socialist utopia in abject poverty.

and to think I thought the top 1% were Capitalists...

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   12:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom (#7)

and to think I thought the top 1% were Capitalists...

LOL! I know, you prefer to be fleeced by Marxist type socialist administrators. That is still insanity.

eskimo  posted on  2011-09-29   12:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#7)

and to think I thought the top 1% were Capitalists...

There's something about the air in Alaska that makes people terminally confused.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-29   12:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Skip Intro (#9)

There's something about the air in Alaska that makes people terminally confused.

. . . . says the resident of a state which first elected Ahhhnold then Jerry Brown as governor, and has a dingbat named Boxer masquerading as a US Senator.

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ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   13:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#10)

And still it's a great place to live. Glad you're not here.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-29   13:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#10) (Edited)

. says the resident of a state which first elected Ahhhnold then Jerry Brown as governor, and has a dingbat named Boxer masquerading as a US Senator.

Soo?? There's not one state that hasn't had a similar history.

Ahhnold was sold by the state Pubbies as the antidote for Grey Davis when it was the oil companies and Enron creating their energy shenanigans. Later we actually found that Davis did less damage than Ahnold, who also made sure Prop 286 would never be resurrected.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-29   13:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Fukushima & Collapse of the USSA....

Hope ... change --- yes we can !

Just had an interesting conversation with a drug using 17 year old !

Wants to go to school with a gun to kill everbody !

He's really worried about the radiation from japan !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-29   13:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Skip Intro (#11)

And still it's a great place to live.
I'm sure it is - especially when one is "on the dole."
Glad you're not here.
Well I'll be damned - we DO agree on something, after all.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   13:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#14)

I'm sure it is - especially when one is "on the dole."

Talk about on the dole, California probably props up your state too since we get back much less in Fed taxes than we pay in.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-29   13:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#15)

California probably props up your state too since we get back much less in Fed taxes than we pay in.

I'm sure you assume I live in a red state.

You are wrong cough cough Cuomo cough cough Shumer - very wrong.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   13:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#16)

I'm sure you assume I live in a red state.

You are wrong cough cough Cuomo cough cough Shumer - very wrong.

I guess we shouldn't send you our very best produce.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-29   13:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#7)

and to think I thought the top 1% were Capitalists...

You think you think.

You don't.

DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?

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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-29   13:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mininggold, GOD (#17)

I guess we shouldn't send you our very best produce.

I've got a poisoned cantaloupe that came from a Red state. I'd be happy to send it to GOD.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-29   13:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Skip Intro (#9)

There's something about the air in Alaska that makes people terminally confused.

There's also lots of Mercury in the permafrost melt.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-29   14:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Skip Intro (#19)

I've got a poisoned cantaloupe that came from a Red state. I'd be happy to send it to GOD.

I appreciate that, Skip - I really do. But you know what? I don't eat cantaloupe.

So I guess you'll just have to show up and slay me in person. Or better yet - have one of your statist Obama goons do it for you.

See you soon, 'kay?

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   14:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#21)

I thought I'd be doing you favor. Once you guys get rid of the EPA and the FDA it's going to be anything goes in the food market. I wanted to give your immune system a head start.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-29   14:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: eskimo (#6) (Edited)

the only fate of any socialist utopia in human history,

The catholic church went broke building cathedrals - fighting the protestants - science - industrial revolution !

These neocom new agers are doing the same !

The original romans were doing this also !

The blue states are the new slavers - decadent elite - parasites !

Non producers should be ineligible to vote !

They are inassimulateble to the middle working class culture !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-29   14:25:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Skip Intro (#22)

Once you guys get rid of the EPA and the FDA it's going to be anything goes in the food market.

Nah, don't worry. There's not enough of "us guys" to affect anything close to that. Yeah, the GOP might do okay in the upcoming elections - assuming they occur. But surely you're not buying the BS that the GOP is for smaller gov't, are you? (BTW and for the record - I'm not a member of the GOP)

Hell - Nixon and the GOP GAVE us the EPA.

Let me ask you a question, though - was "people dying in the streets from rotten fruits and vegetables" a big problem in the US for the 150 years or so prior to the formation of these agencies?

Just wonderin'

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   14:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#7)

I thought the top 1% were Capitalists...

The police are trying to get you crack welfare whores INTO TREATMENT - off the street !

If you had any class - morals you could have had a husband - penthouse !

Is lucy a street urchin too !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-29   14:43:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#24)

was "people dying in the streets from rotten fruits and vegetables" a big problem in the US for the 150 years or so prior to the formation of these agencies?

Well, there weren't huge corporate farms back then, spraying your food with God knows what to save a penny a pound (or bushel). And you were taking a big chance eating tinned meat back in the good old days, since the tins were often sealed poorly or with leaded soldier, so yeah, I'd say things were more dicey back then.

Things change over time, usually for the worse. Don't take my word for it, though. Lucky us, we're going to get to find out for ourselves, thanks to you.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-29   14:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Skip Intro (#26)

Get Outta Dodge!: was "people dying in the streets from rotten fruits and vegetables" a big problem in the US for the 150 years or so prior to the formation of these agencies?

Skip Intro: Well, there weren't huge corporate farms back then, spraying your food with God knows what to save a penny a pound (or bushel). And you were taking a big chance eating tinned meat back in the good old days, since the tins were often sealed poorly or with leaded soldier, so yeah, I'd say things were more dicey back then.
Things change over time, usually for the worse. Don't take my word for it, though. Lucky us, we're going to get to find out for ourselves, thanks to you.

Translation from skippy-speak: NO. But here, let me throw out some other B.S. to distract you from the fact that you just kicked my ass.

DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?

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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-29   14:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Skip Intro (#26)

Well, there weren't huge corporate farms back then, spraying your food with God knows what to save a penny a pound (or bushel). And you were taking a big chance eating tinned meat back in the good old days, since the tins were often sealed poorly or with leaded soldier, so yeah, I'd say things were more dicey back then.
Okay, let me flip the question around, then. Since these gov't agencies are in fact in place, why did a quick Google search turn up THIS?

Seems like a lot, to me. Are we getting our money's worth. If not, why?

Things change over time, usually for the worse.
Why so negative? Things do change, but sometimes change is good. Sometimes it's bad.
Don't take my word for it, though. Lucky us, we're going to get to find out for ourselves, thanks to you.
I already told you there aren't enough of us to affect any kind of meaningful change. Whatever 2012 brings, the gov't will continue to grow and the political class will continue to prosper by keeping us rubes at each other throats.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   15:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#28)

Okay, let me flip the question around, then. Since these gov't agencies are in fact in place, why did a quick Google search turn up THIS?

You're right, better not to know, like in the good old days when you just died of some unknown cause and the credit was given to God's Will.

Again I have to point out that once you get rid of these agencies there will be no more charts like the one you linked to. Ignorance is Bliss, after all.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-29   15:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#28)

Why so negative? Things do change, but sometimes change is good. Sometimes it's bad.

I think that you might agree that overall the country is getting dumber every year. Couple a dumbed-down population with rapid change that the majority of people don't even know about, let alone understand, and you have the makings of dark times ahead.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-29   15:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Skip Intro, Get Outta Dodge! (#29)

Again I have to point out that once you get rid of these agencies there will be no more charts like the one you linked to.

Can't understand why that is such a hard concept to grasp...

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war  posted on  2011-09-29   15:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Skip Intro (#19)

I've got a poisoned cantaloupe that came from a Red state.

Colorado is at best a purple state anymore. Denver has become almost as faggoty as San Fran. You'd probably love it there.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-09-29   16:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: no gnu taxes (#32)

Colorado is at best a purple state anymore. Denver has become almost as faggoty as San Fran. You'd probably love it there.

It's nice to know you keep close tabs on such things.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-29   16:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

There isn't any question that everything that Obama is doing is intentional.

There is still an open question on whether he is malicious or just stupid.


That government is best which governs not at all -- Henry David Thoreau

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-29   16:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: jwpegler (#34)

There is still an open question on whether he is malicious or just stupid.

both

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-09-29   16:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold, Skip Intro, Get Outta Dodge! (#12) (Edited)

says the resident of a state which first elected Ahhhnold then Jerry Brown as governor, and has a dingbat named Boxer masquerading as a US Senator.

Arnold came to power as the result of a conservative grass roots movement to oust Davis. Turned out the cure was worse than the disease.

Aside from the "d" after his name, what's wrong with Brown?

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   16:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mininggold (#15)

Talk about on the dole, California probably props up your state too

Ha! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   16:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Capitalist Eric (#18)

You think you think.

You don't.

There you go again with the cheap shot.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   16:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: BorisY (#25)

Is lucy a street urchin too !

No, she's an accountant.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   17:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Skip Intro (#26)

And you were taking a big chance eating tinned meat back in the good old days...

More soldiers died eating canned food than died in combat in the Spanish American War.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   17:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom (#38)

Why is stating the obvious a "cheap shot?"

DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24347&Disp=35#C35

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-29   17:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom (#40)

More soldiers died eating canned food than died in combat in the Spanish American War.

That's what I mean, The Good Old Days (as far as the GOP is concerned, anyway.)

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-29   17:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lucysmom (#36)

Aside from the "d" after his name, what's wrong with Brown?

He's schizoid, for one.

How can one be pro-life for criminals, yet pro-death for babies?

I know, I know - being pro-death for babies is a requirement to be a D.

Which is one (of the several) reasons I am not . . .

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   17:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Capitalist Eric (#41)

Why is stating the obvious a "cheap shot?"

Because it is obvious and requires no thought. It denotes a mean spirit belonging to a lazy individual content to go through life picking the low hanging fruit. It is the conventional product of a mediocre mind.

Would you like me to go on?

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   17:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#43)

How can one be pro-life for criminals, yet pro-death for babies?

I know, I know - being pro-death for babies is a requirement to be a D.

Do you think that is an honest statement of his position or are you parroting right-wing hyperbole?

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   17:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: lucysmom (#44)

Because it is obvious and requires no thought. It denotes a mean spirit belonging to a lazy individual content to go through life picking the low hanging fruit. It is the conventional product of a mediocre mind.

Would you like me to go on?

Wow. You clearly spent some time on that.

Too bad your posts are mere generalities, painted with a brush so broad as make your point essentially worthless.

I point out the obvious, because it is not obvious to you.

You clearly are a product of the MSM propaganda, a mindless member of the herd, who takes what she can, and gives NOTHING in return. To justify your meager existence, you dutifully bleat the propaganda (good little sheeple that you are), and excuse those who overtly fleece you.

How truly, TRULY pathetic.

You LOVE being a slave.

A man named Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov once described you and your ilk, very well: "useful idiots."

Were I to suffer the curse of a "mediocre mind," I'd be a LEFTIST, like you. In your case, however, "mediocre" is a step up.

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Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?

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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-29   17:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: lucysmom (#45)

How can one be pro-life for criminals, yet pro-death for babies? I know, I know - being pro-death for babies is a requirement to be a D.

Do you think that is an honest statement of his position or are you parroting right-wing hyperbole?

Interesting you should ask.

I'm going to be completely honest with you here. Your question - "is it just because he's a D" - was actually a legitimate one.

Being an east-coaster, I'll have to admit I didn't know a lot about Brown other than he'd been gov. of California once before, and that he'd dated Linda Ronstadt. And somewhere along the line he'd acquired the moniker "Gov. Moonbeam."

I did know he had a Jesuit background, so when you asked your question I thought - "well maybe there's some chance he IS pro-life (for babies)." If that had been the case, I would have been put on the spot (and rightly so.)

I need not have worried - apparently he (like every other major D) values that more than any ikky moral conviction he may once have held. A simple search showed that - yes - he indeed is in favor of killing innocent babies.

Just to be fair - I did another search to see if he was at least CONSISTENT in his state-sponsored death views and was in favor of capital punishment.

No way!

So no, what I said was an honest statement of his position from my viewpoint.

He is schizoid.

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ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   20:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: war, Skip Intro (#31)

Again I have to point out that once you get rid of these agencies there will be no more charts like the one you linked to.

Can't understand why that is such a hard concept to grasp...

Maybe the fact that I've never advocated "getting rid" of any particular agencies is a hard concept for YOU to grasp.

I know it's difficult to believe that there are folks who would like to see some accountability in gov't, but rest assured we're out here.

Not everyone believes that gov't deserves a blank check.

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ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   20:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#47)

He is schizoid.

In the same way, so is every pro-lifer who supports the death penalty.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-29   23:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lucysmom (#49)

In the same way, so is every pro-lifer who supports the death penalty.

I agree. It is not a consistent viewpoint.

Which is why I - a formerly "hang-em-high" right-winger - became anti-capital punishment oh probably about 10 years ago.

Everyone currently on death row should have their sentences changed to "life WITHOUT parlole.

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ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-29   23:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: lucysmom, Get Outta Dodge! (#49)

He is schizoid.

In the same way, so is every pro-lifer who supports the death penalty.

Wait...So opposing murdering an innocent preborn baby is supposed to be the equivalent of opposing executing a convicted murderer?

THIS kind of perverse logic is why liberals are psychopaths - totally incapable of common sense, righteousness, fairness, good judgment.

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-09-30   1:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#50)

I - a formerly "hang-em-high" right-winger - became anti-capital punishment oh probably about 10 years ago.

Everyone currently on death row should have their sentences changed to "life WITHOUT parlole.

If the proof is overwhelming, hang 'em HIGH...

Moreover, what shall we do about the traitors in DC who've been doing us dirty?

"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama

Liberator  posted on  2011-09-30   1:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Liberator (#52)

Do you enjoy West's point of view and perspectives? If you could, would you vote for him?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-30   2:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: ferret Mike (#51)

totally incapable of common sense, righteousness, fairness, good judgment.

Truth for you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-30   6:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Skip Intro (#11)

Your state is bankrupt. Do you enjoy paying for medical care for the illegal savages?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-30   6:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Liberator (#52)

If the proof is overwhelming, hang 'em HIGH...

Lib, I think my viewpoint changed about ten years ago - there was a case of a man who had been serving time for rape. He had always maintained his innocence of course, but it turned out that DNA proved that he in fact did not commit the crime.

But he had already served a lot of time in prison - and where do you go to get your life back?

I don't necessarily equate innocent little babies with hardened criminals - I guess I just look at it as simply a "state taking the life" issue.

It boils down to this - I don't like giving "the State" that much power.

One caveat though is this - I'd also do away with country club prisons. In my little scenario, a criminal sentenced to life without parole is going to be doing some hard time.

Four walls, three meals a day, maybe one hour in the exercise yard (if he's earned it) and the rest in solitary. I think that's a harsher punishment than death.

Most people don't see it this way, and I understand that. But that's just where I'm coming from.

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ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-30   8:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: BorisY (#13)

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!You're Lying!

!Disinfo!

Reactor 4 Still on Fire!

Today!

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-30   9:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mininggold (#5)

My grandpappy told me in the 1960's...... "never invest in an @%&# (entity) where others make the rules, and can change or break them with impunity".

Even up to my Mom and investing Only in CD's....;}

And the best 'like' story: 60 Min did a piece on the Most Successful Sports bettor in Vegas. He changes the Line when he bets. Said that he lost on Wall St. That it was fixed...8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-30   9:11:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Liberator (#51)

Wait...So opposing murdering an innocent preborn baby is supposed to be the equivalent of opposing executing a convicted murderer?

We humans don't have the omniscience of God, therefore a murder conviction is not the same thing as guilt.

A comprehensive study of 328 criminal cases over the last 15 years in which the convicted person was exonerated suggests that there are thousands of innocent people in prison today.

Almost all the exonerations were in murder and rape cases...

www.truthinjustice.org/exoneration-study.htm

A former Dallas County prosecutor has abandoned his longstanding support of the death penalty and is now opposed to capital punishment based on recent exonerations in Texas and elsewhere. James Fry, who prosecuted Charles Chatman--a man recently exonerated from prison in Dallas County--said he was “shaken to the core” by the high number of exonerations throughout the nation and by evidence of flawed eyewitness testimony.

deathpenaltyinfo.org/new-...ased-wrongful-convictions

Until we humans have perfect knowledge, then I oppose the death penalty.

It is also because I do not have the perfect knowledge of God that I am pro-choice - which is not the same thing as support for murdering babies.

Until pro-lifers are willing to put their wallets on the line to insure that every child born in the US has access to quality education, a safe home, healthy food to eat, medical care, decent clothes to wear, then I find there position to be hypocritical.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-30   9:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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