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Title: U.S. Hiker ‘Hid Israeli Father From Iranian Captors’
Source: Agence France-Presse
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/ ... i-father-from-iranian-captors/
Published: Sep 27, 2011
Author: Agence France-Presse
Post Date: 2011-09-27 11:07:52 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 834
Comments: 19

One of two US hikers freed from an Iranian jail where they were held for more than two years on charges of spying and illegal entry, has an Israeli father, Haaretz newspaper reported on Tuesday.

Josh Fattal, who was released on Wednesday with fellow US hiker Shane Bauer, managed to hide from his Iranian captors the fact that his father was an Iraqi-born Jew who emigrated to Israel in 1951, the Israeli newspaper said.

It said that Fattal's father Jacob, who has lived in the United States since completing his military service, declined to give any interviews after his son was arrested in July 2009, in a bid to hide his nationality.

Speaking after his son's release, Jacob Fattal said he was ecstatic.

"We're very happy; it's the greatest gift we could have dreamed of receiving for Rosh Hashanah," he told Haaretz, referring to the upcoming Jewish New Year.

"The problem was their being American, not Jewish," he added. "The Iranians used them as a political weapon for two years."

Fattal and Bauer were arrested with Sarah Shourd near the mountainous border with Iraq on July 31, 2009. All three have always maintained they are innocent of spying and accidentally strayed across the border into Iran.

Shourd, 33, was released last year on $500,000 bail, after the Gulf state of Oman agreed to pay the sum. Oman also paid bail of $400,000 each for Fattal and Bauer.

On August 21, Bauer and Fattal were each sentenced to eight years in prison by a revolutionary court in Tehran on charges of espionage and illegal entry. They have appealed against the ruling.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Fattal and Bauer were arrested with Sarah Shourd near the mountainous border with Iraq on July 31, 2009. All three have always maintained they are innocent of spying and accidentally strayed across the border into Iran.

Why, I thought it was every hiker's dream to explore those 'gorgeous' Iraqi mountain vistas with their friendly little quaint villages. And if Iraq has now become a tourist destination, I can't wait to plan my next vacation.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-27   12:11:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mininggold (#1)

Of course they were spies and should have served out the full term of their sentence in Iran.

Brian S  posted on  2011-09-27   12:16:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#2)

Even if they were, they should of never been emprisoned without proof that is beyond a reasonable doubt. Doing so put the Iranians in a bad light. And this situation did that much as the invasion of the U.S. Embassy under Carter's presidency did.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-09-27   12:28:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

Even if they were, they should of never been emprisoned without proof that is beyond a reasonable doubt. Doing so put the Iranians in a bad light. And this situation did that much as the invasion of the U.S. Embassy under Carter's presidency did.

Seems to me that Iran has declared war against the US and guess what? Those hikers are American and had absolutely no business even being in Iraq, much less hiking from there into another country.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-27   12:35:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mininggold (#5)

Amercans should be able to go even into Iran as well as Iraq as private citizens. I agree the invasion of Iraq was criminal, but let's not be so quick to condemn what private citizens do.

Kids the age of these three always go hiking or looking for ways to explore and find adventure.

Making them pawns in the face of how easy it is to make a wrong turn when in an in an unfamiliar place is a violation of these kid's human rights.

People this young are infamous for not being very careful and erring on the side of caution. I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-09-27   12:41:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike, mininggold (#6)

Even if they were, they should of never been emprisoned without proof that is beyond a reasonable doubt. Doing so put the Iranians in a bad light. And this situation did that much as the invasion of the U.S. Embassy under Carter's presidency did.

They were captured in Iran and had passed unlawfully across the border. That is sufficient cause for arrest and detention pending trial. One cannot expect the Iranian authorities to believe the lame story that they just accidentally hiked across the border.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-27   12:50:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nolu chan (#8) (Edited)

I was Court Martialed because of my political stripes and my lack of desire to hide them from my unit's brass and first sergeant.

You might argue that in light of my political paradigm I deserved due process for 1st Sergeant Fitzgerald's interpretation of my hand not rendering a proper hand salute during the National Amthem.

But the legal actions against me were so rancid with right wing bigotry this action was thrown out on motion immediately after the procecution presented it's case.

I was smart enough to take this to the level where the rules of evidence were strictly enforced by a judge and not a leader in my unit. And this left a huge impack on how I feel about incidents like this one these kids went through.

There is nothing wrong with yout post's sentiments nolu chan, if there had been impartial and fair trial in the face of this minor transgression of a border by tourists.

But it was played as an obvious political ploy by a nation that gut shot it's veracity when it invaded our embassy in the 1970s. So my sympathies are with the kids. They did not get a fair trial as I did in 1977 when I was pickedon for my politics.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-09-27   13:05:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#10)

But it was played as an obvious political ploy by a nation that gut shot it's veracity when it invaded our embassy in the 1970s.

You are forgetting that the 1953 overthrow of the Iranian government was run out of the U.S. Embassy, which explained why the embassy was invaded in the 1970s to pre-empt any repeat performance.

It defies belief that an American with a Jewish Israeli parent accidentally wandered into Iran. They were held just over two years, sentenced 8/20/2011 and released about a month later. It certainly could have been worse, and I have seen no record of the judicial proceedings upon which to base an opinion.

"On August 20, 2011 the two hikers were sentenced to 3 years for illegal entry and 5 years for espionage, a total of 8 years."

They appeared guilty on illegal entry and there seems to be no defense to the charge other than "Oops, my bad."

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-27   14:26:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#18. To: nolu chan (#17)

"You are forgetting that the 1953 overthrow of the Iranian government was run out of the U.S. Embassy, which explained why the embassy was invaded in the 1970s to pre-empt any repeat performance."

Two wrongs do not make a right. And if this had been an effective tit for tat action answering that wrong -- or many of our other wrongs manipulating Iran for our benefit -- they sure fell down in communicating this in the aftermath of the hostage taking invasion.

From my perspective, it was a gambit that was at best manipulated to allow the worst man to win the 1980 presidential election. Any other benefits the mob got for their actions was the same any other lynch style mob gets.

Violating diplomatic protections did not lead to anything good here. And the lack of adherence to the rule of internatinal law helps discredit their game playing with these kids just as seriously as any game playing like this from the U.S. suffers because of our past violations of international law.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-09-27 14:39:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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