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Title: Proving the GOP conservatives are suckers: The Rich are really job destroyers not "job creators". As the rich got richer, they eliminated jobs.
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Published: Sep 23, 2011
Author: Will Femia
Post Date: 2011-09-26 11:43:41 by Godwinson
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Views: 86776
Comments: 129
The chart above showing the relationship between the Koch brothers' net worth and the number of people they employ. And so we see that the net wealth of the Koch brothers has grown, but that wealth has not trickled down in the form of job creation at their company. In fact, the Koch brothers have been JOB DELETERS in favor of padding their bank accounts. I bet if I found the data it would show salaries of their remaining employees have also been reduced. The ExxonMobil chart above also shows the lack of correlation between rising income and "job creation". How long will you GOP/conservative/libertarian suckers keep arguing that the rich should be left alone because they are "job creators"? 
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#16. To: A K A Stone (#11)
For one, you make them either keep the profits here in this country or else you put the CEOs in jail.
You sound more and more like a nazi. How about we just repeal it and go to huge tariffs on foreign goods. That sounds like a better idea to me. What are you and your thugs going to look at everyone's bank account and tell them where to put their money. What about the fourth amendment. You don't care about that do you?
You only quoted part of what I said. Do you think you have created more jobs?
How about we just repeal it and go to huge tariffs on foreign goods. That sounds like a better idea to me. What are you and your thugs going to look at everyone's bank account and tell them where to put their money. What about the fourth amendment. You don't care about that do you? Why are you afraid to put rich thieves in jail?
Do you think you have created more jobs? Putting posters into a pissing match with Rush hardly makes your case.
Rich thieves should be put in jail. But someone hiring someone from another nation to work is not a thief. Obama is a thief. Should he be put in jail?
Pissing match? He asked the question. You should pay attention to what was said before before opening your mouth and removing the little doubt some people may still have about you.
I didn't benefit from the millionaire tax cut.
Obama is a thief. Should he be put in jail? I would start with oldest living president and go from there.
The millionaires may have got their taxes cut. But so did everyone else. And they still pay a higher percentage despite what the douche bag who calls himself president says.
You didn't deny he is a thief. Thanks for the unintentional honesty.
May? There's no question about it.
Do you question that you got your taxes cut? Do you care that there are millions of deadbeats collecting government goodies that are perfectly capable of working?
Is that the commandment that made you reject God?
Think of it this way, many more would be horning in on your painting gig and you would have to lower your prices.
Let's say my taxes got cut by $1000. At $33,000,000 Limbaugh's taxes got cut by around $1,650,000.
I charge more then about anyone. That is because I offer unmatched quality. We do more then paint. We do it all. Except carpet. I never wanted to bust my knees out.
Why are you taking the day off?
Lets say you got your taxes cut by 1000. So you must have paid a few thousand in taxes. I don't know that your numbers for Limbaugh are correct. But he paid millions in taxes. Do you understand percents. Or do you think you should have got a millin dollar tax decrease?
It was pouring buckets of rain out there today. Literal buckets. It just stopped and is still way to wet to work on current job. I'm doing estimates and looking at stuff today. Is that ok nosy butt?
And he probably just started another losing business to cover the tax increase.
Stone claims he was against NAFTA and GATT yet won't do anything about taxing the wealth those destructive trade laws created. I would take profits back via the constitutional tax code and the power of the IRS. NAFTA/GATT was supposed to lower prices and create more jobs. It did nothing of the sort. Since the USA can't eliminate the the trade agreement without a trade war (especially since Americans pushed for these agreements) then the American people can correct the problem by taxing back the wealth earned by such agreements.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
lol. So you actually want NAFTA to continue. Poser.
Why didn't the Kochs or Exxon create more jobs as their profits rose by billions?
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
I've never tried his tea? Have you? Is it yucky?
Because they wanted to keep the money they earned I guess. Maybe they don't need anymore help. It is not mine or anyone else's job to make sure that X person has a job. It is an individual responsibility to get your own job.
I know you are a moron, I said why I think realistically NAFTA can't be overturned. It is like getting a tattoo - yea it can be removed but its painfully difficult to do so and would cost a trade war. Taxing the NAFTA profits, past and present would correct the imbalance. We had 20 years of this economic ideology - 30+ if you add in Reaganomics and it has failed. Low taxes does not fix anything. Rich people / corporations getting richer did not lead to more permanent jobs nor increases in salaries. It is an ideological failure.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
Godwinson says he is against NAFTA GATT Etc. But he says we can't repeal them because our trading partners might get upset.
Because they wanted to keep the money they earned I guess. Maybe they don't need anymore help. It is not mine or anyone else's job to make sure that X person has a job. It is an individual responsibility to get your own job. So the rich are not "job creators" then are they?
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
It is not like getting a tattoo. Congress votes to change the law all the time.
I agree, they probably spent many millions on lobbyists and bribes getting those agreements in place, so it should be all gravy from here on out.
Let the record show that Godwinson is NOT!! for repealing NAFTA. It is a matter of the public record now Godwinson.
Agreements are not simple laws, they are very hard to change.
Destro said so, and I agreed with his logic that the less painful and easier to carry out corrective action is to tax the wealth back. Also, even if NAFTA was repealed Destro would still tax the wealth gained from that period until today at 90% (I assume Eisenhower era levels). So either way, the rich -aka job destroyers - would get the IRS swarming on them like locusts.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
Speculation.
Oh no, you used the "R" word (responsibility) you need to wash out your keyboard with soap!!!!!
"CHANGE" you can step in..... I guess you would like higher oil prices.
Agreements are not simple laws, they are very hard to change. There is also the blow back that canceling a trade agreement would create - especially since it was the Americans who crammed it down other nation's throats to begin with.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
That would be the dumb ass you support. Here take a look see.
I'm for repealing it. You are not. You want NAFTA to continue. Poser.
The rich should be responsible for selling an economic system that failed. Just like automobile companies are responsible for recalls for a failure, the rich and corporations are RESPONSIBLE for the economic failure of the American low tax and free trade system that has not created more jobs and has not increased incomes over the last 30 years.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestHow would you come up with a way to take their profits back? That is a dumb idea. You can't just take something away from someone because you covet what they have.
#17. To: mininggold (#16)
#18. To: Skip Intro (#15)
#19. To: A K A Stone (#17)
You sound more and more like a nazi.
#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)
You only quoted part of what I said.
#21. To: mininggold (#19)
#22. To: mininggold (#20)
#23. To: A K A Stone (#18)
Do you think you have created more jobs?
#24. To: A K A Stone (#21)
#25. To: Skip Intro (#23)
#26. To: mininggold (#24)
#27. To: A K A Stone (#25)
The millionaires may have got their taxes cut.
#28. To: Skip Intro (#27)
#29. To: Skip Intro, mininggold (#27)
The TENTH Commandment - THOU SHALT NOT COVET
#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)
Do you care that there are millions of deadbeats collecting government goodies that are perfectly capable of working?
#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)
Do you question that you got your taxes cut?
#32. To: mininggold (#30)
#33. To: A K A Stone (#32)
I charge more then about anyone. That is because I offer unmatched quality. We do more then paint. We do it all. Except carpet. I never wanted to bust my knees out.
#34. To: Skip Intro (#31)
#35. To: mininggold (#33)
Why are you taking the day off?
#36. To: Skip Intro (#31)
Let's say my taxes got cut by $1000. At $33,000,000 Limbaugh's taxes got cut by around $1,650,000.
#37. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro, mininggold, lucysmom (#11)
How would you come up with a way to take their profits back? That is a dumb idea. You can't just take something away from someone because you covet what they have. Go get a job.
#38. To: Godwinson (#37)
#39. To: Skip Intro, A K A Stone (#31)
Let's say my taxes got cut by $1000. At $33,000,000 Limbaugh's taxes got cut by around $1,650,000.
#40. To: mininggold (#36)
And he probably just started another losing business to cover the tax increase.
#41. To: Godwinson (#39)
Why didn't the Kochs or Exxon create more jobs as their profits rose by billions?
#42. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro, mininggold, lucysmom (#38)
lol. So you actually want NAFTA to continue. Poser.
#43. To: Godwinson, Skip Intro, mininggold, lucysmom (#37)
#44. To: A K A Stone (#41)
Why didn't the Kochs or Exxon create more jobs as their profits rose by billions?
#45. To: Godwinson (#42)
I said why I think realistically NAFTA can't be overturned. It is like getting a tattoo
#46. To: A K A Stone (#41)
Because they wanted to keep the money they earned I guess. Maybe they don't need anymore help. It is not mine or anyone else's job to make sure that X person has a job. It is an individual responsibility to get your own job.
#47. To: Godwinson (#42)
#48. To: A K A Stone (#45)
It is not like getting a tattoo. Congress votes to change the law all the time.
#49. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro, mininggold, lucysmom (#43)
Godwinson says he is against NAFTA GATT Etc. But he says we can't repeal them because our trading partners might get upset.
#50. To: mininggold (#46)
#51. To: A K A Stone (#41)
It is an individual responsibility to get your own job.
My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!
#52. To: A K A Stone (#43)
Godwinson says he is against NAFTA GATT Etc. But he says we can't repeal them because our trading partners might get upset.
#53. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#48)
It is not like getting a tattoo. Congress votes to change the law all the time.
#54. To: mininggold (#52)
I guess you would like higher oil prices.
#55. To: Godwinson (#53)
There is also the blow back that canceling a trade agreement would create - especially since it was the Americans who crammed it down other nation's throats to begin with.
#56. To: CZ82, A K A Stone, mininggold (#51)
Oh no, you used the "R" word (responsibility) you need to wash out your keyboard with soap!!!!!
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