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Title: Bill Kristol: Special Editorial: Yikes
Source: Weekly Standard
URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs ... al-editorial-yikes_594095.html
Published: Sep 23, 2011
Author: William Kristol
Post Date: 2011-09-23 21:56:00 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 6697
Comments: 28

THE WEEKLY STANDARD’s official reaction to last night’s Republican presidential debate: Yikes.

Reading the reactions of thoughtful commentators after the stage emptied, talking with conservative policy types and GOP political operatives later last evening and this morning, we know we’re not alone. Most won’t express publicly just how horrified—or at least how demoralized—they are. After all, they still want to beat Obama—as do we. And they want to get along with the possible nominee and the other candidates and their supporters. They don’t want to rock the boat too much. But maybe the GOP presidential boat needs rocking.

The e-mails flooding into our inbox during the evening were less guarded. Early on, we received this missive from a bright young conservative: “I'm watching my first GOP debate...and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!” As the evening went on, the craziness receded, and the demoralized comments we received stressed the mediocrity of the field rather than its wackiness. As one more experienced, and therefore more jaded, observer wrote: “I just thought maybe it’s always this bad...they’re only marginally worse than McCain and Bush.”

Now there are some legitimate excuses. With nine candidates on the stage, and answers restricted to one minute, it’s hard to really show your stuff. And two of the candidates—Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney—did provide respectable performances. But no front-runner in a presidential field has ever, we imagine, had as weak a showing as Rick Perry. It was close to a disqualifying two hours for him. And Mitt Romney remains, when all is said and done, a technocratic management consultant whose one term as governor produced Romneycare. He could rise to the occasion as president. Or not.

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#1. To: go65 (#0)

But maybe the GOP presidential boat needs rocking.

No,the damn thing needs to be torpedoed and sank with no survivors. The sooner this happens the better because it MIGHT give us time to have some actual conservative candidates get into the race.

If all we are going to get is what has already been seen,we might as well vote for the Current Cretin and be done with it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-23   22:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#0)

THE WEEKLY STANDARD’s official reaction

William Kristol - PNAC....

Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" (51).[13][wiki]

So this crowd assays who will be next and best suited for Globalist....War Forever.

War Forever is fun when its some dirt worlder with an AK 47
less fun if he can make IED's,
and No Fun if he operates Ballistic Missile Submarines with Mirved Nuclear warheads.

PNAC passes for whats called Conservative.....with the Church telling you to vote the PNAC guy and then hand your guns in when the Gov tells you to.

The Nation is annihilated in debt,....because the PNAC crowd sent you to wars and let Banker blowout occur,...plus TARP my Euro banker.

Whats the future plan,.....go out in a blaze of a Glory as Chinese and Russian missiles slam in?

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-09-23   22:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#1)

The sooner this happens the better because it MIGHT give us time to have some actual conservative candidates get into the race.

Cain, Bachmann, Santorum, and Gingrich aren't Conservative?

Tagline for sale - inquire within

go65  posted on  2011-09-23   22:36:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#3)

Cain, Bachmann, Santorum, and Gingrich aren't Conservative?

Cain comes the closest and would be an ideal candidate if he weren't a religious nutcase.

The rest are RINO's.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-24   2:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#4)

Cain comes the closest and would be an ideal candidate if he weren't a religious nutcase.

I can't think of any modern day conservatives in politics who aren't religious nutcases. Can you help me out?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-24   13:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Skip Intro (#5) (Edited)

The elder Paul...William F. Buckley...but he's dead and the other one may as well be...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-24   13:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

The elder Paul.

Forgot all about him, just like the GOP has.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-24   13:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#6)

The elder Paul...William F. Buckley...but he's dead and the other one may as well be...

The elder Paul worships at the shrine of Ayn Rand.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-24   14:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mininggold, war (#8)

BTW, I see McCain Rocks has resurfaced at LP as Hardcore Republican Patriot . It's fun to watch the regulars sputter and spew.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=313818

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-09-24   14:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#0)

When a wealthy Jew boy begs "Yikes!" he might be sensing an issue about the increasing distancing of US foreign policy about Israel. It is about time, too. I am FUCKING FED UP with sending billions if NOT TRILLIONS of our tax dollars towards the ME in one way or another.

Israel has drained America dry.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-24   14:22:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Skip Intro (#9)

I always believed that he was a parody...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-24   14:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Skip Intro (#5)

I can't think...

I knew we'd agree on something, some day...

To :Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro
From: Capitalist Eric Message:
You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-24   14:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Skip Intro (#5)

I can't think of any modern day conservatives in politics who aren't religious nutcases. Can you help me out?

You can NOT be a religious nutcase and be a conservative. That's like being a virgin whore.

But,to answer your question more directly,I can't think of a conservative politician that has managed to reach the national level other than Ron Paul,and the media and the RINO's and their Dim brothers are constantly trying to punish him to keep any others from raising their heads up and becoming speed bumps.

Newt USED to be very conservative,but then the Dim and/or RINO's got some dirt on him or a close family member that allowed them to blackmail him over to the dark side,so he can't be trusted anymore.

Alan West seems to hold conservative values,but the combined weight of both branches of the ruling party and the entire media are working day and night to marginalize him to keep him off the national stage.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-24   14:59:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#8)

The elder Paul worships at the shrine of Ayn Rand.

Anybody that can't understand that the Founding Fathers of this country were Libertarians and that being a Libertarian IS being a conservative is too freaking stupid to be allowed to vote.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-24   15:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Capitalist Eric (#12)

I knew

You misspelled "new".

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-24   15:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#15)

You're a MORON.

To :Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro
From: Capitalist Eric Message:
You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-24   15:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)

You still misspelled "new".

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-24   15:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#14)

Anybody that can't understand that the Founding Fathers of this country were Libertarians and that being a Libertarian IS being a conservative is too freaking stupid to be allowed to vote.

So evidently you are not a Libertarian or a conservative.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-24   15:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#17)

You still misspelled "new".

Nope.

But thanks for another demonstration, that you're incapable of accepting objective fact.

Just because you wish for something to be so doesn't mean it is. But being a dullard, you don't get that.

It's ok, though...

"Here, take a cookie. I promise, by the time you're done eating it, you'll feel right as rain."

Oracle, --The Matrix--

To :Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro
From: Capitalist Eric Message:
You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-24   15:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Capitalist Eric (#19) (Edited)

But thanks for another demonstration, that you're incapable of accepting objective fact.

Thanks for demonstrating that you're incapable of elevating your discourse beyond that barely worthy of a pre-school class at recess.

You've not presented any "objective fact".

ON the other hand, you've provided ample evidence that you're a fucking douchebag who is wholly incapable of backing up either his "information" or "threats".

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-24   15:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war, Capitalist Eric (#20)

You've not presented any "objective fact".

SURE I have.

Bookmarked for future amusement at your expense.

How's your cookie?

To :Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro
From: Capitalist Eric Message:
You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-24   16:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Capitalist Eric (#21) (Edited)

SURE I have.

What post are you referencing, JR? Not one of your posts addresses the topic of this thread which is Kristol's take on the GOP "debate"...

Bookmarked for future amusement at your expense.

Are you under the impression that this is costing me money? No, JR, this is FREE and trust me when I tell you...you are worth EVERY penny...

How's your cookie?

Asked and answered...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-24   16:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#22)

What post are you referencing, JR?

Jeez, you are a moron!!!!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Alzheimers, eh?

And 53 years old, an attempt to "speak from authority," a typical tactic to fall back to, when you're losing out to facts....

Too bad you've already outed yourself as a liar, a leftist loon, and just a dunce....

LMBO!

Eat your cookie.

To :Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro
From: Capitalist Eric Message:
You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-24   16:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#22)

Are you under the impression that this is costing me money? No, JR, this is FREE and trust me when I tell you...you are worth EVERY penny...

Not the brightest star in the sky, are you?

Shit........... Now you're just starting to commit that ugly sin..... of boring me.....

Ah, well........ no point in bitch-slapping you further... when you're too fucking stupid to get it, it kinda' sucks the fun out of the whole deal.

DONE with this thread.

Thanks for the laughs!

To :Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro
From: Capitalist Eric Message:
You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-24   16:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Capitalist Eric (#24) (Edited)

Not the brightest star in the sky, are you?

I don't need to be...around you I'm a supernova to your black hole...

Shit........... Now you're just starting to commit that ugly sin..... of boring me.....

About time you caught up to me...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-24   16:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Capitalist Eric (#23)

SURE I have.

What post are you referencing, JR? Not one of your posts addresses the topic of this thread which is Kristol's take on the GOP "debate"...

Bookmarked for future amusement at your expense.

Are you under the impression that this is costing me money? No, JR, this is FREE and trust me when I tell you...you are worth EVERY penny...

How's your cookie?

Asked and answered...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-24   16:50:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mininggold (#18)

So evidently you are not a Libertarian or a conservative.

Thank you for proving my point.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-24   18:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mininggold (#18)

So evidently you are not a Libertarian or a conservative.

Ahhh,I see the "too freaking stupid" are speaking up.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-09-24   18:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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