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Title: Did Chemical Reactions Cause Twin Towers Collapse?
Source: Agence France-Presse
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/ ... ns-cause-twin-towers-collapse/
Published: Sep 21, 2011
Author: Agence France-Presse
Post Date: 2011-09-21 18:51:34 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 8786
Comments: 12

PARIS — A mix of sprinkling system water and melted aluminium from aircraft hulls likely triggered the explosions that felled New York's Twin Towers on September 11, 2001, a materials expert has told a technology conference.

"If my theory is correct, tonnes of aluminium ran down through the towers, where the smelt came into contact with a few hundred litres of water," Christian Simensen, a scientist at SINTEF, an independent technology research institute based in Norway, said in a statement released Wednesday.

"From other disasters and experiments carried out by the aluminium industry, we know that reactions of this sort lead to violent explosions."

The official report blames the collapse on the over-heating and failure of the structural steel beams at the core of the buildings, an explanation Simensen rejects.

Given the quantities of the molten metal involved, the blasts would have been powerful enough to blow out an entire section of each building, he said.

This, in turn, would lead to the top section of each tower to fall down on the sections below.

The sheer weight of the top floors would be enough to crush the lower part of the building like a house of card, he said.

The aluminium-water scenario would also account for explosions from within the buildings just prior to their collapse that have fuelled conspiracy theories suggesting that the structures had been booby-trapped.

Simensen presented his theory at an international materials technology conference in San Diego, California, and has detailed his calculations in an article published in the trade journal Aluminium International Today.

"The aluminium industry had reported more than 250 aluminium-water explosions since 1980," he said.

In a controlled experiment carried out by Alcoa Aluminium, 20 kilos (44 pounds) of molten aluminium was allowed to react with 20 litres of water, along with a small quantity of rust.

"The explosion destroyed the entire laboratory and left a crater 30 metres (100 feet) in diameter," Simensen said.

By comparison, the aircraft carried 30 tonnes of aluminium into each of the towers, according to his calculations.

Simensen speculates that the two commercial jets were immediately trapped inside an insulating layer of building debris within the skyscrapers.

The debris -- especially plaster, which blocks the transfer of heat -- would have formed a shield protecting the rest of the building.

At the same time, however, it would created a super-hot, oven-like zone around the aircraft, heated by burning fuel.

Aluminium alloy, which in jet hulls also contains magnesium, melts at 660 degrees Celsius (1,220 degrees Fahrenheit). If heated to 750 C (1382 F), the alloy "becomes as liquid as water," Simensen said.

This molten aluminium could then have flowed downward through staircases and gaps in the floor, causing a chemical reaction with water from sprinklers on the levels below.

The mix would immediately boost temperatures by several hundred degrees, releasing combustible hydrogen in the process. Such reactions are even more powerful in the presence of rust or other catalysts, which can boost temperatures to more than 1,500 C (2,700 F).

A meltdown period of 30 to 45 minutes would also be consistent with the timing of the explosions and subsequent collapse of both buildings in relation to the moment of impact.

Simensen said there are lessons to be learned, if his theory is correct, that could help avoid a similar disaster were another skyscraper to be hit by a big jet.

"We could develop means of rapidly emptying sprinkler systems in the floors beneath the point of impact," he said.

Firing a rocket with fire-retardant that could coat the aircraft body could also help prevent metal alloy from melting.


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There now you see, all perfectly logical. /sarcasm

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

The sheer weight of the top floors would be enough to crush the lower part of the building like a house of card, he said.

Contrary: the following by physics teacher David Chandler.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/ChandlerDownwardAccelerationOfWTC1.pdf

Destruction of the World Trade Center North Tower and Fundamental Physics

By David Chandler

B.S., physics, Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA
M.A., education, Claremont Graduate University, Claremont, CA
M.S., mathematics, California Polytechnic University, Pomona, CA

Running Title: Downward Acceleration of WTC 1

Abstract

The roof line of the North Tower of the World Trade Center is shown to have been in constant downward acceleration until it disappeared. A downward acceleration of the falling upper block implies a downward net force, which requires that the upward resistive force was less than the weight of the block. Therefore the downward force exerted by the falling block must also have been less than its weight. Since the lower section of the building was designed to support several times the weight of the upper block, the reduced force exerted by the falling block was insufficient to crush the lower section of the building. Therefore the falling block could not have acted as a "pile driver." The downward acceleration of the upper block can be understood as a consequence of, not the cause of, the disintegration of the lower section of the building.

[snip - paper is 17 pages long.]

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-21   19:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

That is insane.

Insanity is what happens when you refuse reality.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-21   21:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu chan, All (#2)

Controlled demolition.

50 ton press dissappears as supports blown away.

Free Fall.

All 3 bldgs.

Never before.

Never since....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-21   21:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: nolu chan (#1)

downward acceleration of the falling upper block implies a downward net force, which requires that the upward resistive force was less than the weight of the block.

Only a mindless pos could write - post such garbage !

The terrorists knew the total weight of the upper floors would consecutively crash the lower floors !

your mind is in tiddlywinks !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-21   22:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BorisY (#4)

Did the terrorists know that they could take a joy ride across Ohio and the Air Force wouldn't intercept them? Seems they would have went straight for the target instead of flying around in a hijacked plane.

Or did they know that Andrews Air force's squadron would be out on the Atlantic Ocean that day, at that time?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-21   22:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

If everything works it proves evolution !

If everything isn't working it proves evolution is still working !

This is the ultimate answer for most people !

Why didn't the first three planes wait for them !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-21   23:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#1)

The sheer weight of the top floors would be enough to crush the lower part of the building like a house of card, he said.

The aluminium-water scenario would also account for explosions from within the buildings just prior to their collapse that have fuelled conspiracy theories suggesting that the structures had been booby-trapped.

I don't think a kook mind can be altered - saved !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-21   23:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BorisY (#4)

[Physics teacher David Chandler] downward acceleration of the falling upper block implies a downward net force, which requires that the upward resistive force was less than the weight of the block.

[BorisY] Only a mindless pos could write - post such garbage !

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/newtlaws/u2l4a.cfm

Newton's Third Law of Motion

Newton's Third Law | Identifying Action and Reaction Force Pairs

Newton's Third Law

A force is a push or a pull upon an object that results from its interaction with another object. Forces result from interactions! As discussed in Lesson 2, some forces result from contact interactions (normal, frictional, tensional, and applied forces are examples of contact forces) and other forces are the result of action-at-a-distance interactions (gravitational, electrical, and magnetic forces). According to Newton, whenever objects A and B interact with each other, they exert forces upon each other. When you sit in your chair, your body exerts a downward force on the chair and the chair exerts an upward force on your body. There are two forces resulting from this interaction - a force on the chair and a force on your body. These two forces are called action and reaction forces and are the subject of Newton's third law of motion. Formally stated, Newton's third law is:

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The statement means that in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object. The direction of the force on the first object is opposite to the direction of the force on the second object. Forces always come in pairs - equal and opposite action-reaction force pairs.

[snip]

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-21   23:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nolu chan (#8)

[Physics teacher David Chandler]

At some point the engineers design buildings at lower levels to be stronger to support the upper building floors - even less structural strength at higher heights !

The weight mass of upper floors falling increases !

Isn't inertia the 1st law of thermodynamics !

The greater force prevails !

Maybe you don't know the difference of a static structure versus dynamic structure !

The fact that gravity goes down too !

In outer space the parts would have floated apart !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-22   1:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BorisY (#9)

The weight mass of upper floors falling increases !

Can you tell me how many seconds it took the building to fall to the ground? Give me an honest number and how you got that number. Thanks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-22   8:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Science teaches that a lead ball - feather in a vacuum fall at the same speed !

I would say all three !

The wtt's infesterminally slower !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-22   13:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11) (Edited)

The wtt's infesterminally slower !

some kind of non existent terminex word !

How about immeasurably slower (( same )) !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-22   14:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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