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Title: A Message From Occupied Wall Street (Day Four)
Source: OccupyWallStreet
URL Source: https://occupywallst.org/
Published: Sep 21, 2011
Author: easilydistr
Post Date: 2011-09-21 12:42:04 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 4129
Comments: 30

This is the fourth communiqué from the 99 percent. We are occupying Wall Street.

On September 18th, 2011, we were awoken by police bullhorns around seven in the morning, they objected to us protecting ourselves from the rain. They told us that the tarps suspended above us had to be taken down. We held a General Assembly to determine how to respond. We decided that we would hold the tarps over ourselves and our possessions. The police ripped the plastic away from us. We then scrambled to protect our possessions, primarily the media equipment streaming our occupation to the world. The police were also mostly interested in our cameras, it seems like they don't want you watching us.

Before we say more about what happened to us it seems important to point this out: we do not think the police are our enemy. They have jobs, how could we fault them for that, when one sixth of America lives in poverty? when one sixth of America can't find work? The police are part of the 99 per cent.

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#2. To: lucysmom (#0)

I care. Is there a news blackout on this? Thanks for sharing.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-21   12:46:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

Is there a news blackout on this?

Probably - they make Obama's donors look bad.

Now if they were Tea-partiers . . .

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   13:07:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#5)

Probably - they make Obama's donors look bad.

Now if they were Tea-partiers . . .

The demonstrators look bad, or Wall Street?

If there were no media coverage, would the Tea Party exist?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   13:17:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#9)

The demonstrators look bad, or Wall Street?

Wall street.

I don't think too many unemployed demonstrators were at Obama's $38000/plate funder . . .

If there were no media coverage, would the Tea Party exist?
Three pointed hats and revolutionary era garb make for good TV - especially when it can be ridiculed.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   13:20:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#10)

Three pointed hats and revolutionary era garb make for good TV - especially when it can be ridiculed.

I'm thinking that with out big money, and media coverage, the Tea Party wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   13:29:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#11)

I'm thinking that with out big money, and media coverage, the Tea Party wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

To me, the TP represented the frustration felt by many - perhaps a majority - in this country.

Now granted the frustration may have come about in part because of Obama - not because of his color but because of how blatant he was governing against the will of the people (as epitomized by Obamacare)

MY frustration dated back to at least about 2005 and the second Bush admin (with a GOP congress that spent like the proverbial drunken sailors on shore leave).

Anyway, I really liked the TP when it first started, and the fact it drove the Left and the MSM crazy was just icing on the cake. And no, I don't believe (initially, at least) there was a lot of money behind it.

It was leaderless, after all.

That's not to say that sadly it has not been co-opted by the GOP and neo-con statists on the so-called right (see my tagline)

So it's an exciting thing that has come . . . and now it has gone.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   13:40:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#12)

To me, the TP represented the frustration felt by many - perhaps a majority - in this country.

Now granted the frustration may have come about in part because of Obama - not because of his color but because of how blatant he was governing against the will of the people (as epitomized by Obamacare)

Don't you think the "Occupy Wall Street" protest has come about out of the same frustration?

You mean like the people who don't want government mixed up in their medical care with the exception of their government administered Medicare? (Kinda makes one think they are being manipulated to oppose something they really support, don't you think?)

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   14:24:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#13)

Don't you think the "Occupy Wall Street" protest has come about out of the same frustration?
About the only similarity I see is that both groups are frustrated. Other than that, the TP tends to want less gov't.

I suspect the OWS crowd wants more.

Kind of like the Leftist "critics" of Obama. They think he's not left enough.

You mean like the people who don't want government mixed up in their medical care with the exception of their government administered Medicare? (Kinda makes one think they are being manipulated to oppose something they really support, don't you think?)
You really ought to try thinking outside the box which the false paradigm has put you in.

Gov't has involved itself in medical issues - but they have just screwed it up halfway. So we have a bastardization of free market mixed with gov't that somehow manages to combine the worst aspects of both.

It has managed to make otherwise independent people to feel they must depend on it, however.

In that, it has succeeded.

Which is why governments grow and grow and grow until they eventually collapse. Exactly what we're seeing now.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   16:37:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#15)

Which is why governments grow and grow and grow until they eventually collapse. Exactly what we're seeing now.

That would be true if government were growing, but government (per capita) is shrinking; California's government has been shrinking for decades.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   17:57:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#17)

That would be true if government were growing, but government (per capita) is shrinking; California's government has been shrinking for decades.

That's certainly news to me. Can you elaborate - what exactly do you mean when you post " . . . government (per capita) is shrinking"?

I really want to see what you come up with.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   20:18:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#19)

That's certainly news to me. Can you elaborate - what exactly do you mean when you post " . . . government (per capita) is shrinking"?

...California – which has 38 million residents – had the third lowest number of full-time state government employees relative to the population.

California and Florida both had 103 state employees for every 10,000 residents, while Illinois had the lowest ratio at 97, the group reported. The U.S. average was 143 state employees per 10,000 residents, with California 28 percent below the national average.

californiawatch.org/daily...ted-state-government-1389

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-22   1:52:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lucysmom (#21)

certainly news to me. Can you elaborate - what exactly do you mean when you post " . . . government (per capita) is shrinking"?

...California – which has 38 million residents – had the third lowest number of full-time state government employees relative to the population.

Couple of points:

1. You can measure government size per capita if you wish, but all that shows is that you citizens of CA are getting hosed. How is it that such a "small" gov't produces numbers such as THESE?

2. No offense to CA, but I'm more interested in the FEDGOV - and I don't think even you can spin that it is shrinking.

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-22   6:56:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#25. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#22)

1. You can measure government size per capita if you wish, but all that shows is that you citizens of CA are getting hosed. How is it that such a "small" gov't produces numbers such as THESE?

In short:

1. Republican unwillingness and inability to deal with the financial realities of running a state the size of California.

Example: bond debt, which is paid from general funds leaving less money for current items, tripled under Schwarzenegger.

2. Recession that has reduced state revenues, but not reduced expenses.

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