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Title: A Message From Occupied Wall Street (Day Four)
Source: OccupyWallStreet
URL Source: https://occupywallst.org/
Published: Sep 21, 2011
Author: easilydistr
Post Date: 2011-09-21 12:42:04 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 4028
Comments: 30

This is the fourth communiqué from the 99 percent. We are occupying Wall Street.

On September 18th, 2011, we were awoken by police bullhorns around seven in the morning, they objected to us protecting ourselves from the rain. They told us that the tarps suspended above us had to be taken down. We held a General Assembly to determine how to respond. We decided that we would hold the tarps over ourselves and our possessions. The police ripped the plastic away from us. We then scrambled to protect our possessions, primarily the media equipment streaming our occupation to the world. The police were also mostly interested in our cameras, it seems like they don't want you watching us.

Before we say more about what happened to us it seems important to point this out: we do not think the police are our enemy. They have jobs, how could we fault them for that, when one sixth of America lives in poverty? when one sixth of America can't find work? The police are part of the 99 per cent.

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#1. To: lucysmom (#0)

Nobody cares.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-21   12:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#0)

I care. Is there a news blackout on this? Thanks for sharing.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-21   12:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

Is there a news blackout on this?

Kinda seems like it.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   12:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lucysmom (#3)

I just did a search and there is some coverage but not from the MSM.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-21   12:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

Is there a news blackout on this?

Probably - they make Obama's donors look bad.

Now if they were Tea-partiers . . .

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ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   13:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#2) (Edited)

I saw one possibly two lawsuits in that video...there was no reason to pick that guy up and toss him...

Great...the NYPD just cost me about million bucks...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-21   13:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#1)

Well...you certainly are nobody...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-21   13:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

I just did a search and there is some coverage but not from the MSM.

Apparently the "Occupation" is going on in several cities including San Francisco.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   13:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#5)

Probably - they make Obama's donors look bad.

Now if they were Tea-partiers . . .

The demonstrators look bad, or Wall Street?

If there were no media coverage, would the Tea Party exist?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   13:17:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#9)

The demonstrators look bad, or Wall Street?

Wall street.

I don't think too many unemployed demonstrators were at Obama's $38000/plate funder . . .

If there were no media coverage, would the Tea Party exist?
Three pointed hats and revolutionary era garb make for good TV - especially when it can be ridiculed.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   13:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#10)

Three pointed hats and revolutionary era garb make for good TV - especially when it can be ridiculed.

I'm thinking that with out big money, and media coverage, the Tea Party wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   13:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#11)

I'm thinking that with out big money, and media coverage, the Tea Party wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

To me, the TP represented the frustration felt by many - perhaps a majority - in this country.

Now granted the frustration may have come about in part because of Obama - not because of his color but because of how blatant he was governing against the will of the people (as epitomized by Obamacare)

MY frustration dated back to at least about 2005 and the second Bush admin (with a GOP congress that spent like the proverbial drunken sailors on shore leave).

Anyway, I really liked the TP when it first started, and the fact it drove the Left and the MSM crazy was just icing on the cake. And no, I don't believe (initially, at least) there was a lot of money behind it.

It was leaderless, after all.

That's not to say that sadly it has not been co-opted by the GOP and neo-con statists on the so-called right (see my tagline)

So it's an exciting thing that has come . . . and now it has gone.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   13:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#12)

To me, the TP represented the frustration felt by many - perhaps a majority - in this country.

Now granted the frustration may have come about in part because of Obama - not because of his color but because of how blatant he was governing against the will of the people (as epitomized by Obamacare)

Don't you think the "Occupy Wall Street" protest has come about out of the same frustration?

You mean like the people who don't want government mixed up in their medical care with the exception of their government administered Medicare? (Kinda makes one think they are being manipulated to oppose something they really support, don't you think?)

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   14:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom, Fred Mertz, war, Get Outta Dodge! (#0)

America is a totalitarian dictatorship controlled by 1% of the population (like Orwell's '1984' inner party system) where this so called "land of the free" has more people in prison than Stalin had or Red China has.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-09-21   15:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#13)

Don't you think the "Occupy Wall Street" protest has come about out of the same frustration?
About the only similarity I see is that both groups are frustrated. Other than that, the TP tends to want less gov't.

I suspect the OWS crowd wants more.

Kind of like the Leftist "critics" of Obama. They think he's not left enough.

You mean like the people who don't want government mixed up in their medical care with the exception of their government administered Medicare? (Kinda makes one think they are being manipulated to oppose something they really support, don't you think?)
You really ought to try thinking outside the box which the false paradigm has put you in.

Gov't has involved itself in medical issues - but they have just screwed it up halfway. So we have a bastardization of free market mixed with gov't that somehow manages to combine the worst aspects of both.

It has managed to make otherwise independent people to feel they must depend on it, however.

In that, it has succeeded.

Which is why governments grow and grow and grow until they eventually collapse. Exactly what we're seeing now.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   16:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#15)

I suspect the OWS crowd wants more.

Or you may be expressing the stereotypical right wing view of the left.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   17:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#15)

Which is why governments grow and grow and grow until they eventually collapse. Exactly what we're seeing now.

That would be true if government were growing, but government (per capita) is shrinking; California's government has been shrinking for decades.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-21   17:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#17)

That would be true if government were growing, but government (per capita) is shrinking

lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-21   19:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#17)

That would be true if government were growing, but government (per capita) is shrinking; California's government has been shrinking for decades.

That's certainly news to me. Can you elaborate - what exactly do you mean when you post " . . . government (per capita) is shrinking"?

I really want to see what you come up with.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-21   20:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

lol

Half a million government jobs have gone away is not that funny.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-22   1:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#19)

That's certainly news to me. Can you elaborate - what exactly do you mean when you post " . . . government (per capita) is shrinking"?

...California – which has 38 million residents – had the third lowest number of full-time state government employees relative to the population.

California and Florida both had 103 state employees for every 10,000 residents, while Illinois had the lowest ratio at 97, the group reported. The U.S. average was 143 state employees per 10,000 residents, with California 28 percent below the national average.

californiawatch.org/daily...ted-state-government-1389

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-22   1:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lucysmom (#21)

certainly news to me. Can you elaborate - what exactly do you mean when you post " . . . government (per capita) is shrinking"?

...California – which has 38 million residents – had the third lowest number of full-time state government employees relative to the population.

Couple of points:

1. You can measure government size per capita if you wish, but all that shows is that you citizens of CA are getting hosed. How is it that such a "small" gov't produces numbers such as THESE?

2. No offense to CA, but I'm more interested in the FEDGOV - and I don't think even you can spin that it is shrinking.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-22   6:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom (#20)

Half a million government jobs have gone away is not that funny.

It is not funny. It is awesome if true. But the government in fact is still growing. We don't need 80 percent of the people who work for government. Most of them are lazy and couldn't get a real job.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-22   7:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#21)

..California – which has 38 million residents – had the third lowest number of full-time state government employees relative to the population.

If you dumb asses didn't kill prop 187 your economy would be doing better. But because you assholes killed 187 illegals have flooded the nation. So assholes who were against that aren't real Americans. They are traitors who should move to Mexico.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-22   7:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#22)

1. You can measure government size per capita if you wish, but all that shows is that you citizens of CA are getting hosed. How is it that such a "small" gov't produces numbers such as THESE?

In short:

1. Republican unwillingness and inability to deal with the financial realities of running a state the size of California.

Example: bond debt, which is paid from general funds leaving less money for current items, tripled under Schwarzenegger.

2. Recession that has reduced state revenues, but not reduced expenses.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-22   10:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#24)

If you dumb asses didn't kill prop 187 your economy would be doing better. But because you assholes killed 187 illegals have flooded the nation. So assholes who were against that aren't real Americans. They are traitors who should move to Mexico.

Depends on whether or not you take the US Constitution seriously. Obviously you don't.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-22   10:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#23)

We don't need 80 percent of the people who work for government. Most of them are lazy and couldn't get a real job.

With a cold blooded murder on the run, a friend's policeman son just worked a 24-hour shift.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-22   10:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#27)

With a cold blooded murder on the run, a friend's policeman son just worked a 24-hour shift.

I worked many, many 17 hour shifts, some back to back. And almost any time it rained a substantial amount we were held over a shift in case the next shift couldn't make it in.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-22   12:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mininggold (#28)

I worked many, many 17 hour shifts, some back to back. And almost any time it rained a substantial amount we were held over a shift in case the next shift couldn't make it in.

As one of them lazy public employees?

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-22   12:45:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lucysmom (#29)

As one of them lazy public employees?

I worked night shift and still ran my butt off.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-22   13:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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