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Title: 34% say country would be better off under Hillary Clinton: poll
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/ ... ff-under-hillary-clinton-poll/
Published: Sep 16, 2011
Author: Kase Wickman
Post Date: 2011-09-16 18:35:32 by nolu chan
Keywords: Obama, Hillary, Buyer
Views: 90132
Comments: 139

34% say country would be better off under Hillary Clinton: poll

By Kase Wickman
Friday, September 16th, 2011 -- 3:33 pm

More than a third of Americans said that if Hillary Clinton had been elected president in 2008, the country would be in better shape than it is right now under President Barack Obama's leadership.

The Bloomberg poll showed that Clinton, currently serving as secretary of state, garnered a 64 percent favorability rating, making her the most popular national politician in the country.

Thirty-four percent expressed wishful thinking about a Clinton presidency, up from the 25 percent who responded the same in July 2010.

In the 2008 election, Obama won the majority of delegates necessary to clinch the Democratic nomination after the primaries. During the drawn-out primary battle, Clinton actually won the popular vote, though Obama won 29 states to her 21.

Only 13 percent of respondents said that things would be worse under a Clinton White House.

It's not just Democrats expressing buyers' remorse either: 39 percent of Republicans said that Clinton would run the country better than Obama has.

“Some of her appeal is that she is not Barack Obama,” said J. Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co., the group that conducted poll.

No matter what the public's opinion of her, any wishful thinking will remain a fantasy.

“It’s below zero,” Clinton told CNN when asked about the chance of her challenging Obama in 2012. “One of the great things about being secretary of state is I am out of politics. I am not interested in being drawn back into it by anybody.”

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#76. To: senile old wannabe lubber bitch WOG nolu chan (#63) (Edited)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-24   15:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Mad Dog (#74)

That is no way to talk to a lady. So I am deleting it. I'm also going to ask you to refrain from putting words like that when you address the posters here.

Moderator X  posted on  2011-09-24   23:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Skip Intro (#65)

Do you mean his claim to have personally shot down three Migs might be a lie?

He's a stolen valor veteran of the internet.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-25   7:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Mad Dog (#70)

You senile old wannabe lubber, what the F is that supposed to prove IDIOT?

Resolution 237 (June 14, 1967)

Considering that all the obligations of the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War of 12 August 1949 /5 should be complied with by the parties involved in the conflict,

1. Calls upon the Government of Israel to ensure the safety, welfare and security of the inhabitants of the areas where military operations have taken place and to facilitate the return of those inhabitants who have fled the areas since the outbreak of hostilities ;

2. Recommends to the Governments concerned the scrupulous respect of the humanitarian principles governing the treatment of prisoners of war and the protection of civilian persons in time of war contained in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-25   7:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Mad Dog (#71)

Mad Dog #71

I don't know s**t about being or how you become a CORPSMAN. WHY WOULD I FOOL?

CORPSMEN = BALBOA when I was in the NAV you little gibbering bitch.

I don't know or CARE where they went you idiot.

LOL!

Why don't you ask me about MY rate, (FT), you foul < Deleted By X >?

Because I would be expected to know about it?

I haven't asked FT questions because I have been demonstrating that YOUR claims about Hospital Corpsmen are impossible. They are YOUR claims, YOU made them, and I am rubbing your bullcrap in your face.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=326#C326

#326. To: sneakypete (#325)

No, you are incorrect, the US NAVY had "Naval Enlistment Codes", (NECs).

During Vietnam the USMC was part of the NAV,(the Commandant of the Marine Corps reported directly to the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), (I think that Slick Willie aka the Stainmeister, changed that).

The Corps had MOSs. But they knew, (and hated) that they were part of the USN.

But you doggies did it ALL yourselves right?

Right.

Out of forty, (40), "graduates" of NTC San Diego, company 217, 1968; 38 went to serve with the Corps as Corpsmen, two (2) went to the 7th fleet.

But you doggies did it ALL your ownselves right?

Right.

DesRon 15, look it up doggie.

Mad Dog posted on 2006-12-21 3:14:46 ET Reply Trace

Did any veterans out there enjoy a boot camp with only 40 graduates in their company? What was that called? ASMO company?

DesRon 15? Does that mean attached to the staff of the Commander, Destroyer Squadron Fifteen?

Mad Dog #45

From boot, Fred Dent and I went to FT"A" school, all of the rest of 217 went to the USMC as Corpsmen. Which IF you had ever been in the US NAVY WOG, you'd already know that at that time all Corpsmen started their Corpsmen training at BALBOA.

Mad Dog #54

You IGNORANT little cunt! LOL! YOU even quoted, AND BOLDFACED the part where I said that I was talking about CORPSMAN training you ignorant, stoopid, insipid little goober!

I was talking about where they did their USN CORPSMAN training, not their AIT or whatever and all the rest of all that Marine shit. LOL! I don't know anything about Marine stuff you WOG FOOL. LOL! Why the fuck would I moron? LOL!

No, you were explicitly talking about 38 of the 40 going to the Marine Corps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Medical_Center_San_Diego

During World War II, due to large numbers of casualties coming from the Pacific Theater of Operations, the hospital expanded to include most of the buildings in present day Balboa Park. For instance, the Navy Nurses were housed at the House of Hospitality and the California Building, Fine Arts Gallery and the Natural History Museum were converted into hospital wards. The Lily Pond was used for swim training, the Japanese Tea Garden as a Red Cross Servicemen's Center, the House of Pacific Relations as officers' quarters and the Palisades as a Hospital Corps School named Camp Kidd. The Balboa Complex, to include the main Naval Hospital, treated approximately 172,000 patients with a maximum occupancy of 12,000 in December, 1944. In 1946 the Balboa Park grounds and buildings were returned to the city.[3]

http://www.balboaparkhistory.net/glimpses/navalhospital.pdf

The greatest Naval Hospital expansion in Balboa Park began after the December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor. The hospital went from 56 buildings with a bed capacity of 1,424 in 1941 to 241 buildings covering 247 acres with a bed capacity of 10,499 in 1945. The complex included 33 acres in the Prado and Palisades sections of Balboa Park and a convalescent branch at Rancho Santa Fe, located 30 miles from the main plant.

The Navy used the California Building, Fine Arts Gallery and Natural History Museum as hospital wards, the House of Hospitality as a nurses' dormitory, the Japanese tea garden as a Red Cross Servicemen's Center, the lily pond as a swimming pool, and the House of Pacific Relations as officers' quarters. A Hospital Corps School, known as Camp Kidd, occupied the Palisades.

The Naval Hospital interdenominational chapel was dedicated in January 1945 on land the Navy had leased from the city in 1937 for recreation. At that time, Captain Fred E. Porter, commandant of the hospital, had promised no buildings would be placed there. During World War II, the hospital treated approximately 172,000 patients. On December 27, 1944, patient counts rose to more than 12,000.

In June 1946 the hospital corps vacated its quarters at Camp Kidd and moved back to the main hospital grounds. In 1945, during its peak wartime enrollment, it had 3,400 students. The Navy did not finally vacate the buildings along El Prado until 1948.

http://www.militarymuseum.org/cpKidd.html

LOCATION: The Camp Kidd Naval Training Station was located on the Palisades area of the City of San Diego's Balboa Park, adjacent to the downtown area of San Diego, California.

SITE HISTORY: On 10 December 1941, the Navy acquired 33 acres of the Palisades area of the City of San Diego's Balboa Park. The Camp Kidd Naval Training Station was named in honor of Admiral Issac C. Kidd, who died at Pearl Harbor 7 December 1941. The Navy used Camp Kidd Naval Training Station as a Naval Hospital Corps School (Camp Kidd was designated as Unit 3 of the existing San Diego Naval Hospital and School). The training station occupied 22 existing Balboa Park Exposition Buildings and 33 army-style barracks used for training purposes. Over the 5 years (1941-1945) that the United States participated in World War II, Camp Kidd provided medical, dental, and hygienic training and support to Navy personnel. In addition, housing facilities (five barracks), a dispensary, and recreational facilities were provided. Facilities maintenance and ship service support activities were also conducted at Camp Kidd. After 1945, the Camp Kidd Naval Training Station area was converted to a post-war Naval recreational services center, and was subsequently transferred back to the City of San Diego in the latter half of 1946. The area is currently managed by the City of San Diego's Parks and Recreation Department as part of the present day Balboa Park. Twenty-four (24) buildings once used by the Navy currently exist in the Palisades area of the park. They have all been used beneficially by the City of San Diego.

Source: US Army Corps of Engineers

The process actually works this way:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/09/obama-brings-guests-to-jobs-speech/1

Joseph Kidd

Joseph Kidd, a 30 year old father, joined the U.S. Navy in 2003 and completed Hospital Corpsman School. Upon graduation, Kidd received his orders to Naval Hospital Okinawa, in Japan. Once his rotation was complete, he moved to Camp Lejeune, NC. While at Camp Lejeune, Kidd was attached to a Marine Corps command, and deployed to Iraq in 2007. After he returned from Iraq, his daughter was born in January of 2009, and he was deployed again in May of 2009 as part of the 22D Marine Expeditionary Unit ... In August, Kidd was one of five veterans to eat lunch with President Obama in Cannon Falls, MN during the rural bus tour. Kidd asked the President to help with credentialing programs that would allow a service member to take his or her skills from the military directly into the private sector.

The recruit does not go from boot camp to the Marines. He must attend "A" School. He must go through Field Medical Service Technician (FMST) training at a Marine Corps facility to earn his HM-8404. This is where he is issued his Marine Corps type uniform gear. Mad Dog's super-sailors skip this assignment and go from boot camp to SURVIVOR: Marine Corps where they do their Richard Hatch impersonation and go naked. With no particular medical training or experience, they just run about sticking their hands into marines' innards and patching them up. Apparently, some train at a ghost facility in Balboa Park.

Of his own "knowledge," Mad Dog tells the world that once upon a time, 38 of 40 recruits from company 68-217 went directly to serve with the Marine Corps. As a sea story, this should begin with "now this ain't no shit."

http://www.lejeune.usmc.mil/fmtb/fmst.shtml

Field Medical Service Technician (FMST)

Welcome to Field Medical Training Battalion! The Field Medical Service Technician (FMST) course is designed for E1 to E5 Hospital Corpsmen though more senior personnel are occasionally enrolled. For over 100 years, young men and women have been answering the call to save lives on the battlefield. For the past 65 years, Corpsmen have been receiving training here at Field Medical Training Battalion. The information below will help you prepare for your training.

[...]

COURSE DESCRIPTION:

During this 8 week course, you will have a mix of classroom and field training. Emphasis is placed on learning field medicine by using the principles of Tactical Combat Casualty Care (TCCC). This includes familiarization with USMC organization and procedures, competency in Marine Corps Martial Arts Program (MCMAP), logistics, and administrative support in a field environment. Additionally, training will include general military subjects, individual and small unit tactics, military drills, physical training/conditioning, and weapons familiarization with the opportunity to qualify on the rifle. Completion of FMST results in the student receiving Navy Enlisted Classification HM-8404. See “Student Material” to download a copy of the Student Manual that you will use during your training (you will receive a copy of this text upon arrival).

[...]

REPORTING INFORMATION:

DO NOT REPORT TO THE MAIN BASE AT CAMP LEJEUNE OR THE NAVAL HOSPITAL!!!!!

• Personnel report directly to FMTB Camp Johnson, Building M-321. Phone (910) 450-0712/0750.

• Personnel shall report in the appropriate seasonal dress uniform, i.e. khakis, Dress Blues or Service Dress Whites. The winter uniform period is from approximately mid-October through mid-March. You may telephone the school to confirm the type of uniform required.

• Personnel shall report with their original orders, service, health, dental, and pay records or documents

• Personnel reporting on TAD orders should report with their original TAD orders.

[...]

ISSUED GEAR

Bring a complete sea bag. For the first few days of class, you will be wearing dungarees. For graduation, you will be wearing either your Dress Whites or Dress Blues. All uniform items listed below will be issued to you shortly after arrival:

• 1 pair of Infantry Combat boots

• 1 pair of hot weather boots

• 2 Utility Covers (1 Woodland and 1 Desert)

• 2 Booney Covers (1 Woodland and 1 Desert)

• 4 Combat Utility Blouses (2 Woodland and 2 Desert)

• 4 Combat Utility Trousers (2 Woodland and 2 Desert)

• 6 pairs of cushion sole socks

• 2 HM collar devices

• 4 sets name tapes (2 Woodland and 2 Desert)

• 6 green undershirts (3 cotton and 3 synthetic)

• 1 Sweater

• 1 pair of green shorts

• 1 Marine Corps sweat suit (top and bottom)

• 1 web belt

• 1 belt buckle

• 1 glowbelt

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-25   7:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Mad Dog (#71)

Mad Dog #71

Since you have never served in the US NAVY, you likely have no idea how LARGE it is and WAS.

Bottom line you COWARDLY foul little lying .

I have $5.00 right here that says that you are a LYING COWARDLY Piece Of s**t.

You can afford $5.00 can't you < Deleted By X >? You could cut $5.00 out of your welfare check couldn't you gramps?

IF you don't have the BALLS to bet a mere $5.00, and let STONE make a determination from certified copies of my RER-1 HONORABLE and DD-214, then you are OBVIOUSLY just a foul lying cunt! Who KNOWS that you are LYING about a man's service and you just want to keep repeating the LIE.

Oh come on skippy. Produce your NAVPERS 1830/3 and show that you were a man and not a wimpering sissy who couldn't cut it.

Here's what a real one of those looks like skippy.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-25   7:35:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: nolu chan (#79)

The UN should be nuked.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-25   10:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Moderator X (#77)

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Do as you will.

It won't change the FACT that ALL of those libTURD whores aren't ladies in any way.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-25   14:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: lubber WOG nolu chan (#78)

lubber WOG chan is a COWARD who won't take a bet that will prove "him" to be a LIAR.

chan YOU are a lying, cowardly, lubber WOG piece of shit, and you need your mommy , (Ms. "X"), to wipe your little butt when you shit out your miserable LIES.

What's the matter COWARD you still won't take the bet?

Because you'd rather KEEP lying eh bitch?

LOL!

You filthy LYING POS lubber WOG COWARD.

Now go cry to your mommy you little bitch,

Spit ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-25   14:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#79)

You senile old wannabe lubber WOG, what the F is that supposed to prove IDIOT?

We ALL already know that the UN HATES JOOS almost as much as you do WOG.

What else are you trying to prove other than that you are a brain dead JOOO hating POS wannabe lubber WOG bitch?

WE ALL already know that bitch.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-25   15:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#80) (Edited)

BLAH BLAH B:LAH BLAH

fwlW;"I haven't asked FT questions because I have been demonstrating that YOUR claims about Hospital Corpsmen are impossible. They are YOUR claims, YOU made them, and I am rubbing your bullcrap in your face."

************************************************************************************************ LOL!

WOG, I've made no "claims" about how to become a CORPSMAN you gibbering piece of shit WOG.

I got where they do their "A' school wrong, so fucking what you miserable piece of shit?

I have never claimed to BE a CORPSMAN have I WOG?

I was a FT(M).

The truth is that 38 of the 40 guys in my bootcamp company went to be CORPSMEN. That's all that I know about it, I never saw any of them again, and I never have claimed to know a fucking thing about how to be a Marine or CORPSMAN you miserable gibbering wannabe lubber WOG.

Just like YOU don't know shit about how to be a FT you wannabe lubber WOG.

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fwlW; "Did any veterans out there enjoy a boot camp with only 40 graduates in their company? What was that called? ASMO company?

DesRon 15? Does that mean attached to the staff of the Commander, Destroyer Squadron Fifteen?"

***********************************************************************************************

MD; IF you had ever really gone to bootcamp at NTCSD, then you'd KNOW that companies started out with about FIFTY recruits, THEN they end up GRADUATING with whatever number they end up with after people drop out. Do you even know what "the GRINDER" is?, you foul LYING wannabe lubber WOG bitch?

MD; DESRON 15 is Destroyer SQUADRON 15, currently forward deployed out of Yokosuka Japan since 1972. My ship, USS Parsons DDG-33 was one of the original, (post WW2), ships of THIS SQUADRON. WE, such as in I, and the rest of MY ship and MY crew, took her over to YOKOSUKA in '72 from 32nd St. Diego. In fact you lying wannabe lubber WOG we were allowed to take our DOGS over with us on board Parsons. So I've had DOGS who were more of a seafarer than YOU are WOG. LOL!

So, in review ...

Where did I ever say that I knew a GOD DAMNED thing about being a F ing Marine or CORPSMAN you lousy piece of wannabe lubber WOG shit?

You are a foul little wannabe lubber WOG COWARD and I'd love to meet you face to face, any time you little bitch.

Sigh ... never happen ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-25   15:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#81)

Oh come on skippy. Produce your NAVPERS 1830/3 and show that you were a man and not a wimpering sissy who couldn't cut it.

Here's what a real one of those looks like skippy.

LOL!

I know what a REAL Fleet Reserve certificate looks like you wannabe lubber WOG.

Nice picture of a fleet reserve certificate, you lying wannabe LUBBER WOG. Too bad that there's no way to PROVE that it's YOURS bitch.

We already know that you can cut n past, you lying wannabe lubber WOG SCUM.

And bitch, I don't have a Fleet Reserve Certificate, I earned a HONORABLE RE-R1 Discharge, (form DD256N (Rev.5-50)); I did ALL of my time active except for my 3 months delayed entry before going to boot WOG.

LOL!

You are too much of a COWARD and LIAR to even TRY to claim a RATE, or a SHIP aren't you you foul lying miserable wannabe lubber WOG??

AND I KNOW that a lubber WOG like you hasn't the balls to stand before Neptune do you bitch? So even IF you had been supercargo crossing the line you'd never have the stones to make ther initiation would you bitch? (Tell us all where and when YOU were initiated bitch)(Oh yeah you weren't!) LOL!

LOL! gibber on F ing senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG.

Btw WOG, we can settle this very easily, I'll send STONE certified copies of my Honorable Discharge AND my DD-214. I'll redact all personal data of course BUT I will sign them both, and you will be able to see that my signature matches the signature that is on the recording stamps where I had them recorded with the Recorder of the City and County of San Francisco 7January1974.

That's what they call "PROOF" WOG.

We'll make a mere token bet of $100.00, that will be paid by the LOSER to Stone within 30 days of the matter being settled.

The bet is that I am EXACTLY what I have claimed to be or I am NOT.

So put up or shut up you foul COWARDLY lying wannabe lubber WOG bitch.

No BALLS.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-25   15:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: A K A Stone (#82)

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What say YOU stone?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-25   16:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Mad Dog (#88)

What say YOU stone?

I don't give out my address.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-25   16:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: A K A Stone, MAd Dog, nolu chan (#89)

Mad Dog has gotten his ass kicked as good as any that I have ever seen on any website...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-25   16:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: A K A Stone (#89) (Edited)

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Why would I want your personal address?

You own this site and you don't have a drop address that is different from your personal address?

That's kinda unwise isn't it?

How do people send you money to support this site?

I understand not wanting to get into the middle of this sort of thing, but hey IF you could honestly make money for your site AND put LIARS out of business why not?

Then I want to know why it's OK for these SCUM to keep calling me a liar about my service, but it's not OK for me to call them what they REALLY are?

It's your "boat" so I will abide by whatever you decide.

BUT I will also continue to call these LYING SCUM, exactly what they are, FUCKING LYING SCUM.

So maybe you just ought to ban me now?

Because these foul LYING SCUM will never ever get anything but the back of my hand up the side of their heads, or my boot in their big FAT lying libTURD SCUM asses.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-25   16:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#81)

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LOL!

That's no "proof" of anything, except for your already noted skill at "cut n paste" WOG.

It's not even a HONORABLE DISCHARGE is it WOG?

IF you are claiming service in the NAV WOG ...

Where do YOU claim to have done boot WOG?

Where did you do YOUR "A"/"C"/other school WOG?

What was YOUR first ship WOG?

What was YOUR RATE WOG?

What ships did YOU serve on and where and when WOG?

What was YOUR Department WOG? What was YOUR Division WOG?

Where did YOU cross the line WOG, on board what ship WOG?

Where's YOUR Honorable Discharge WOG?

Where's YOUR DD-214 WOG?

Tell us all about it WOG.

YOU COWARD. YOU LIAR. YOU CREEP. YOU WANNABE LUBBER WOG.

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Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-25   17:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone (#82)

The UN should be nuked.

That might kill tens of millions of innocent American citizens around the NY Metro area. Is that what you really want? The same effect can be had by withdrawing American financing from the UN. Without U.S. financing and support, it would just go away.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-25   23:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Mad Dog (#85)

Resolution 242 (November 22, 1967)

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter.

1. Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

(i) Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;

(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-25   23:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Mad Dog (#86)

Mad Dog #86

WOG, I've made no "claims" about how to become a CORPSMAN you gibbering piece of shit WOG.

I got where they do their "A' school wrong, so fucking what you miserable piece of shit?

I have never claimed to BE a CORPSMAN have I WOG?

I was a FT(M).

The truth is that 38 of the 40 guys in my bootcamp company went to be CORPSMEN. That's all that I know about it, I never saw any of them again, and I never have claimed to know a fucking thing about how to be a Marine or CORPSMAN you miserable gibbering wannabe lubber WOG.

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MD; IF you had ever really gone to bootcamp at NTCSD, then you'd KNOW that companies started out with about FIFTY recruits, THEN they end up GRADUATING with whatever number they end up with after people drop out. Do you even know what "the GRINDER" is?, you foul LYING wannabe lubber WOG bitch?

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So, in review ...

Where did I ever say that I knew a GOD DAMNED thing about being a F ing Marine or CORPSMAN you lousy piece of wannabe lubber WOG shit?

[...] Mad Dog posted on 2011-09-25 15:30:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Mad Dog #71

I don't know s**t about being or how you become a CORPSMAN. WHY WOULD I FOOL?

CORPSMEN = BALBOA when I was in the NAV you little gibbering bitch.

I don't know or CARE where they went you idiot.

LOL!

Why don't you ask me about MY rate, (FT), you foul < Deleted By X >?

Because I would be expected to know about it?

I haven't asked FT questions because I have been demonstrating that YOUR claims about Hospital Corpsmen are impossible. They are YOUR claims, YOU made them, and I am rubbing your bullcrap in your face.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=326#C326

#326. To: sneakypete (#325)

No, you are incorrect, the US NAVY had "Naval Enlistment Codes", (NECs).

During Vietnam the USMC was part of the NAV,(the Commandant of the Marine Corps reported directly to the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), (I think that Slick Willie aka the Stainmeister, changed that).

The Corps had MOSs. But they knew, (and hated) that they were part of the USN.

But you doggies did it ALL yourselves right?

Right.

Out of forty, (40), "graduates" of NTC San Diego, company 217, 1968; 38 went to serve with the Corps as Corpsmen, two (2) went to the 7th fleet.

But you doggies did it ALL your ownselves right?

Right.

DesRon 15, look it up doggie.

Mad Dog posted on 2006-12-21 3:14:46 ET Reply Trace

Did any veterans out there enjoy a boot camp with only 40 graduates in their company? What was that called? ASMO company?

Mad Dog #45

From boot, Fred Dent and I went to FT"A" school, all of the rest of 217 went to the USMC as Corpsmen. Which IF you had ever been in the US NAVY WOG, you'd already know that at that time all Corpsmen started their Corpsmen training at BALBOA.

Mad Dog #54

You IGNORANT little cunt! LOL! YOU even quoted, AND BOLDFACED the part where I said that I was talking about CORPSMAN training you ignorant, stoopid, insipid little goober!

I was talking about where they did their USN CORPSMAN training, not their AIT or whatever and all the rest of all that Marine shit. LOL! I don't know anything about Marine stuff you WOG FOOL. LOL! Why the fuck would I moron? LOL!

No, you were explicitly talking about 38 of the 40 going to the Marine Corps. Your repeated attempts to rewrite your lie only adds to the length of your lie.

No, you did not just get the "A" School wrong. You claimed a company size of 40, and claimed 38 of the 40 went to serve with the Marine Corps. Your fairy tale is imaginary. Your corpsmen went to your claimed ghost facility, and never went to gain any experience, nor did they go to a Marine Corps facility to earn their NEC or get their required uniforms. Quite simply, you did not have a clue what you were talking about and got caught telling another imaginary tale from your alleged military service.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   0:02:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Mad Dog (#86)

Mad Dog #86

MD; IF you had ever really gone to bootcamp at NTCSD, then you'd KNOW that companies started out with about FIFTY recruits, THEN they end up GRADUATING with whatever number they end up with after people drop out. Do you even know what "the GRINDER" is?, you foul LYING wannabe lubber WOG bitch?

Actually, every boot camp prints a boot camp book for each company. In San Diego it is the Anchor. In Great Lakes, it is the Keel, Orlando has the Rudder, and Bainbridge had the Compass.

They list the number of recruits that graduated with each Company. While the list online is not complete, it is sufficient to prove that your generalized claim that companies started out with about FIFTY recruits is just more bullcrap, plucked from your fertile imagination.

See the selection at Gjenvick-Gjønvick Archives:

http://www.gjenvick.com/Military/NavyArchives/USNTC-Yearbooks/SanDiego-TheAnchor/index.html

67-350 - 54 graduates
67-563 - 57 graduates
67-618 - 56 graduates
68-054 - 58 graduates
68-120 - 58 graduates
68-172 - 61 graduates
69-416 - 56 graduates
69-438 - 49 graduates
69-708 - 56 graduates

You still look like you claim to have graduated from ASMO company, specializing in doing the 96-count manual on the grinder.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   0:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Mad Dog (#87)

Mad Dog #87

And bitch, I don't have a Fleet Reserve Certificate, I earned a HONORABLE RE-R1 Discharge, (form DD256N (Rev.5-50)); I did ALL of my time active except for my 3 months delayed entry before going to boot WOG.

Wow, I am impressed. I only did twenty years active duty, you miserable stolen valor pissant.

nolu chan, USN (Ret.)

I can't think of anything that could possibly be more impressive than your talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, about your alleged DD-214.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   0:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: nolu chan (#93)

That might kill tens of millions of innocent American citizens around the NY Metro area.

Not literally nuked.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-26   6:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#94)

Blah blah blah

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LOL! MORON!

LOL!

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LOL!

That's no "proof" of anything, except for your already noted skill at "cut n paste" WOG.

IF you are claiming service in the NAV WOG ...

Where do YOU claim to have done boot WOG?

Where did you do YOUR "A"/"C"/other school WOG?

What was YOUR first ship WOG?

What was YOUR RATE WOG?

What ships did YOU serve on and where and when WOG?

What was YOUR Department WOG? What was YOUR Division WOG?

Where did YOU cross the line WOG, on board what ship WOG?

Where's YOUR Honorable Discharge WOG?

Where's YOUR DD-214 WOG?

Tell us all about it WOG.

YOU COWARD. YOU LIAR. YOU CREEP. YOU WANNABE LUBBER WOG.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26   15:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#95)

senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG cut n paste

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LOL!

IF you are claiming service in the NAV WOG ...

Where do YOU claim to have done boot WOG?

Where did you do YOUR "A"/"C"/other school WOG?

What was YOUR first ship WOG?

What was YOUR RATE WOG?

What ships did YOU serve on and where and when WOG?

What was YOUR Department WOG? What was YOUR Division WOG?

Where did YOU cross the line WOG, on board what ship WOG?

Where's YOUR Honorable Discharge WOG?

Where's YOUR DD-214 WOG?

Tell us all about it WOG.

YOU COWARD. YOU LIAR. YOU CREEP. YOU WANNABE LUBBER WOG.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26   15:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#96)

To: Mad Dog Mad Dog #86 MD; IF you had ever really gone to bootcamp at NTCSD, then you'd KNOW that companies started out with about FIFTY recruits, THEN they end up GRADUATING with whatever number they end up with after people drop out. Do you even know what "the GRINDER" is?, you foul LYING wannabe lubber WOG bitch?

Actually, every boot camp prints a boot camp book for each company. In San Diego it is the Anchor. In Great Lakes, it is the Keel, Orlando has the Rudder, and Bainbridge had the Compass.

They list the number of recruits that graduated with each Company. While the list online is not complete, it is sufficient to prove that your generalized claim that companies started out with about FIFTY recruits is just more bullcrap, plucked from your fertile imagination.

See the selection at Gjenvick-Gjønvick Archives:

http://www.gjenvick.com/Military/NavyArchives/USNTC-Yearbooks/SanDiego-TheAnchor/index.html

67-350 - 54 graduates 67-563 - 57 graduates 67-618 - 56 graduates 68-054 - 58 graduates 68-120 - 58 graduates 68-172 - 61 graduates 69-416 - 56 graduates 69-438 - 49 graduates 69-708 - 56 graduates

You still look like you claim to have graduated from ASMO company, specializing in doing the 96-count manual on the grinder.

LOL!!

You see asshole, THAT's what's wrong with READING about stuff, (like YOU are doing about the NAV), and then trying to hold people who actually DID that stuff, (that would be ME), to some wannabe lubber WOG "requirement" of being letter specific to what YOU THINK is/or should be true.

You see you senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG, I made spoke a "generallity", you see you senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG FOOL, I was too busy BEING in company 68-217 to count how many recruits were in the OTHER companies.

You are a foul STUPID little senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG

I note that you didn't list MY company which I have already mention here you foul STUPID little senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG .

NTSCSD Company 68-217

MY copy of MY "The Anchor" shows individual photos of 51 individual recruits that were in MY Co. 68-217 BMC C.E. Heard Company Commander at some point in our training.

What boot camp company were YOU in you senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG?

Riiiiight you foul STUPID lying POS ...

IF you are claiming service in the NAV WOG ...

Where do YOU claim to have done boot WOG?

Where did you do YOUR "A"/"C"/other school WOG?

What was YOUR first ship WOG?

What was YOUR RATE WOG?

What ships did YOU serve on and where and when WOG?

What was YOUR Department WOG? What was YOUR Division WOG?

Where did YOU cross the line WOG, on board what ship WOG?

Where's YOUR Honorable Discharge WOG?

Where's YOUR DD-214 WOG?

Tell us all about it WOG.

YOU COWARD. YOU LIAR. YOU CREEP. YOU WANNABE LUBBER WOG.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26   15:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#97)

Mad Dog #87

And bitch, I don't have a Fleet Reserve Certificate, I earned a HONORABLE RE-R1 Discharge, (form DD256N (Rev.5-50)); I did ALL of my time active except for my 3 months delayed entry before going to boot WOG.

Wow, I am impressed. I only did twenty years active duty, you miserable stolen valor pissant.

nolu chan, USN (Ret.)

I can't think of anything that could possibly be more impressive than your talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, about your alleged DD-214.

Wow! I'm so impressed. /NOT

Turns out that the foul senile OLD wannabe LUBBER WOG lying piece of shit stolen valor poser wants to be pretend to be a lifer.

You certainly act like the typical no balls, back stabbing, chicken shit, lickspittle toady turdblossom that almost ALL lifers that I ever ran into were.

So PROVE it you no balls stolen valor lying little senile OLD wannabe LUBBER WOG bitch.

PROVE IT.

You foul, senile, old, miserable, stolen valor piece of shit wannabe LUBBER WOG bitch.

PROVE IT you useless wannabe stolen valor OLD senile wannabe LUBBER WOG LYING POS.

PROVE IT bitch.

SINCE you CLAIM service in the US NAVY you useless senile OLD lying foul wannabe lubber WOG ...

Where do YOU claim to have done boot WOG?

Where did you do YOUR "A"/"C"/other school WOG?

What was YOUR first ship WOG?

What was YOUR RATE WOG?

What ships did YOU serve on and where and when WOG?

What was YOUR Department WOG? What was YOUR Division WOG?

Where did YOU cross the line WOG, on board what ship WOG?

Where's YOUR Honorable Discharge WOG?

Where's YOUR DD-214 WOG?

Tell us all about it WOG.

YOU COWARD. YOU LIAR. YOU CREEP. YOU WANNABE LUBBER WOG.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26   16:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: senile OLD stolen valor poser liar wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#97)

nolu chan, (senile, OLD, stolen valor poser and liar, wannabe lubber WOG)

There, FIXED it for you WOG!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26   16:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Skip Intro (#65)

Do you mean his claim to have personally shot down three Migs might be a lie?

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=461#C461

#461. To: vrmc 0915, sneakypete, seen2much, Travis McGee, ALL (#450)

[...]

I AM A US NAVY VIETNAM vet, I hold three Combat actions two meritorious unit commendations and the rest of the gee dunks which mean s**t to me.

My weapons systems splashed three (3) migs, 2 ob Parsons and one ob Horne.

I don't owe you or any f**king body an explaination or excuse regarding my VIETNAM service.

REALITY CHECK:

http://www.usshorne.net/history.htm

USS Horne CG-30/DLG-30 History

Vietnam

On her four Vietnam deployments, Horne served on "Yankee Station" in the Gulf of Tonkin during the Vietnam Conflict. Horne distinguished herself many times during these war zone deployments.

In both 1968, during Horne's first deployment, and 1970 air controllers in Horne directed American fighter planes in action which resulted in the downing of two North Vietnamese MIG21 Interceptors. Also during Horne's first deployment, Horne's embarked SH2 helicopter conducted a dramatic night rescue of a downed U.S. Navy Pilot from a North Vietnamese beach, saving the pilot from capture.

http://www.usshorne.net/awards.htm

USS Horne CG-30/DLG-30 Awards

Combat Action Ribbon (2)
17 JAN 1991 - 28 FEB 1991

OPNAV NOTICE 1650 of 18 Sept 2002 - MASTER LIST of Unit Awards and Campaign Medals

USS Horne at pp. 208-209. USS Horne earned two (2) Combat Action Ribbons, both as a cruiser designated CG-30, on 17 Jan 1991 and 28 Feb 1991.

USS Parsons at p. 339. USS Parsons never earned a Combat Action Ribbon.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   20:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Mad Dog (#99)

Resolution 248 (March 24, 1968)

Recalling resolution 236 (1967) by which the Security Council condemned any and all violations of the cease-fire,

Observing that the military action by the armed forces of Israel on the territory of Jordan was of a large-scale and carefully planned nature,

Considering that all violent incidents and other violations of the cease-fire should be prevented and not overlooking past incidents of this nature,

Recalling further resolution 237 (1967) which called upon the Government of Israel to ensure the safety, welfare and security of the inhabitants of the areas where military operations have taken place,

1. Deplores the loss of life and heavy damage to property;

2. Condemns the military action launched by Israel in flagrant violation of the United Nations Charter and the cease-fire resolutions;

3. Deplores all violent incidents in violation of the cease-fire and declares that such actions of military reprisal and other grave violations of the cease-fire cannot be tolerated and that the Security Council would have to consider further and more effective steps as envisaged in the Charter to ensure against repetition of such acts;

4. Calls upon Israel to desist from acts or activities in contravention of resolution 237 (1967);

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   20:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Mad Dog (#100)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=461#C461

#461. To: vrmc 0915, sneakypete, seen2much, Travis McGee, ALL (#450)

this poser still at it?

I am more than a little tired of this crap.

I have NEVER in four decades questioned any person's service.

I responded in kind, (not that that excuses my behavior in that regard).

I was honored to serve in the US NAVY from 1968 to 1974.

I did one WesPac ob USS Horne DLG-30 '69-'70.

Then I swapped billets to join USS Parsons DDG-33 when she and the others went over to Yokosuka as DesRon 15. I f**king VOLUNTEERED.

I was a FTM nec1139 AN/SPS-48 (uv), part of GMFS-76, a Terrier system on board USS Horne DLG-30, a Tartar system ob USS Parsons DDG-33.

We set the time at sea, in zone, record for type since WW2. We did 278 days straight then two days in Da Nang harbor to re-gun, which we could not do underway, then we did 2 hundred and something else more days underway in zone.

Add it up, we spent more that a year and a third underway killing commies for God. Then we got serious.

I AM A US NAVY VIETNAM vet, I hold three Combat actions two meritorious unit commendations and the rest of the gee dunks which mean s**t to me.

My weapons systems splashed three (3) migs, 2 ob Parsons and one ob Horne.

I don't owe you or any f**king body an explaination or excuse regarding my VIETNAM service.

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Mad Dog posted on 2007-01-12 2:26:21 ET Reply Trace


http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=461#C461

I was a FTM nec1139 AN/SPS-48 (uv), part of GMFS-76, a Terrier system on board USS Horne DLG-30, a Tartar system ob USS Parsons DDG-33.

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Mad Dog posted on 2007-01-12 2:26:21 ET

What's your problem, skippy? You couldn't even remember your own NEC?

FC-1139 is GCS MK 160 MOD 8/OSS MK 46 MOD 1 Fire Control Technician.

FC-1140 is AN/SPS-48E Search Radar Technician.

NAVPERS 18068F, Vol 2, page 28:

NECs - NAVPERS 18068F, Navy Enlisted Classifications, Manpower and Personnel Classifications and Occupation...

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=461#C461

My weapons systems splashed three (3) migs, 2 ob Parsons and one ob Horne.

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Mad Dog posted on 2007-01-12 2:26:21 ET

It wasn't your weapons system, skippy. It was the Navy's system, and you were not in charge of the system.

Your claimed NEC 1139:

FC-1139 GCS MK 160 MOD 8/OSS MK 46 MOD 1 Fire Control Technician Performs planned and corrective maintenance on the Gun Computer System MK 160 MOD 8 and Optical Sight System MK 46 MOD 1 of the Gun Weapon System MK 34 MOD 1 at the organizational and intermediate levels. Performs casualty analysis, fault detection/isolation, modular replacement, repair, test and alignment of individual equipment using Built-In-Test Capability. Operates the GCS Gun Console (GC) and OSS Control and Display (CDC) consoles and associated equipment in support of the ship's combat weapon system in a tactical situation and during test and evaluation.

What did you do? PMS the enemy to death?

http://www.tpub.com/gunners/232.htm

The MK-34 Gun system.

(GCS), a 5"/54 Mk 45 gun system, and an EX 46 optical sight. The following is a brief description of each of these components except for the 5"/54 Mk 45 gun that was described in chapter 6.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=485#C485

#485. To: Mad Dog (#484)

As I said earlier, I didn't expect you to ACT like a "man" now either.

Out of the padded room again,Princess?

How much time did you have "in country" again?

13 months carrying a rifle. And you?

sneakypete posted on 2007-01-27 20:47:57 ET Reply Trace

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=488#C488

#488. To: sneakypete (#485)

Already answered, did you forget?

40 months carrying a 5"/54, twin 3"/50s, Terrier, and Tartar, CAP under our vector 24/7,....

Oh yeah, I forgot in your fevered little bird brain, nobody but you did anything.

Uh, YEAH SURE, you Betcha.

Mad Dog posted on 2007-01-27 21:05:14 ET Reply Trace

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   20:07:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Mad Dog (#101)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=461#C461

#461. To: vrmc 0915, sneakypete, seen2much, Travis McGee, ALL (#450)

[...]

I was honored to serve in the US NAVY from 1968 to 1974.

I did one WesPac ob USS Horne DLG-30 '69-'70.

Then I swapped billets to join USS Parsons DDG-33 when she and the others went over to Yokosuka as DesRon 15. I f**king VOLUNTEERED.

I was a FTM nec1139 AN/SPS-48 (uv), part of GMFS-76, a Terrier system on board USS Horne DLG-30, a Tartar system ob USS Parsons DDG-33.

http://www.hullnumber.com/DDG-33

Parsons was reclassified (DDG-33) 15 March 1967 and recommissioned 3 November 1967, assigned to the CruiserDestroyer Force, Pacific Fleet. Following shakedown she carried out a rigorous testing program for her missile systems, and in September 1968 she assumed duties as flagship for DesRon 31 and immediately deployed to the Western Pacific for operations with the 7th Fleet off Vietnam. Interspersed with her carrier escort duties on Yankee Station, she conducted on-station training operations, assuming duties as ASW training coordinator ship with Commander Destroyer Squadron 31 embarked. Parsons also visited Kaohsiung, Yokosuka, Hong Kong, Singapore and Sasebo. She returned to San Diego 12 May 1969 to resume operations from there and train for her next deployment.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   20:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Mad Dog (#103)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=461#C461

#461. To: vrmc 0915, sneakypete, seen2much, Travis McGee, ALL (#450)

[...]

I AM A US NAVY VIETNAM vet, I hold three Combat actions two meritorious unit commendations and the rest of the gee dunks which mean s**t to me.

My weapons systems splashed three (3) migs, 2 ob Parsons and one ob Horne.

I don't owe you or any f**king body an explaination or excuse regarding my VIETNAM service.

REALITY CHECK:

http://www.usshorne.net/history.htm

USS Horne CG-30/DLG-30 History

Vietnam

On her four Vietnam deployments, Horne served on "Yankee Station" in the Gulf of Tonkin during the Vietnam Conflict. Horne distinguished herself many times during these war zone deployments.

In both 1968, during Horne's first deployment, and 1970 air controllers in Horne directed American fighter planes in action which resulted in the downing of two North Vietnamese MIG21 Interceptors. Also during Horne's first deployment, Horne's embarked SH2 helicopter conducted a dramatic night rescue of a downed U.S. Navy Pilot from a North Vietnamese beach, saving the pilot from capture.

http://www.usshorne.net/awards.htm

USS Horne CG-30/DLG-30 Awards

Combat Action Ribbon (2)
17 JAN 1991 - 28 FEB 1991

OPNAV NOTICE 1650 of 18 Sept 2002 - MASTER LIST of Unit Awards and Campaign Medals

USS Horne at pp. 208-209. USS Horne earned two (2) Combat Action Ribbons, both as a cruiser designated CG-30, on 17 Jan 1991 and 28 Feb 1991.

USS Parsons at p. 339. USS Parsons never earned a Combat Action Ribbon.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   20:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Mad Dog (#108)

What is going on here, Mad Dog??? It's looking like you're some kind of fucking poser.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-09-26   20:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: senile OLD cowardly wannabe LUBBER WOG bitch nolu chan (#104)

Just plain senile OLD cowardly wannabe LUBBER WOG bitch nolu chan bullshit.....

Turns out that the foul senile OLD wannabe LUBBER WOG lying piece of shit stolen valor poser wants to be pretend to be a lifer.

You certainly act like the typical no balls, back stabbing, chicken shit, lickspittle toady turdblossom that almost ALL lifers that I ever ran into were.

So PROVE it you no balls stolen valor lying little senile OLD wannabe LUBBER WOG bitch.

PROVE IT.

You foul, senile, old, miserable, stolen valor piece of shit wannabe LUBBER WOG bitch.

PROVE IT you useless wannabe stolen valor OLD senile wannabe LUBBER WOG LYING POS.

PROVE IT bitch.

SINCE you CLAIM service in the US NAVY you useless senile OLD lying foul wannabe lubber WOG ...

Where do YOU claim to have done boot WOG?

Where did you do YOUR "A"/"C"/other school WOG?

What was YOUR first ship WOG?

What was YOUR RATE WOG?

What ships did YOU serve on and where and when WOG?

What was YOUR Department WOG? What was YOUR Division WOG?

Where did YOU cross the line WOG, on board what ship WOG?

Where's YOUR Honorable Discharge WOG?

Where's YOUR DD-214 WOG?

Tell us all about it WOG.

YOU COWARD. YOU LIAR. YOU CREEP. YOU WANNABE LUBBER WOG.

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Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26   21:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: senile OLD useless foul low life stolen valor phony wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#106)

A masterpiece of cut n paste time takers!

LOL!

Hey you foul low life stolen valor phony wannabe lubber WOG shithead, my DD214, box 16a, says "FTM--1139" what's the matter LUBBER? do you think that you know more than the US NAVY does you miserable WOG?

LOL!

And WOG I was a FTM, the M means MISSILES bird brain.

LOL!

FC didn't EXIST when I was in the NAVY you gibbering wannabe LUBBER WOG!

LOL!

So ...

It turns out that the foul senile OLD wannabe LUBBER WOG lying piece of shit stolen valor poser wants to be pretend to be a lifer.

You certainly act like the typical no balls, back stabbing, chicken shit, lickspittle toady turdblossom that almost ALL lifers that I ever ran into were.

So PROVE it you no balls stolen valor lying little senile OLD wannabe LUBBER WOG bitch.

PROVE IT.

You foul, senile, old, miserable, stolen valor piece of shit wannabe LUBBER WOG bitch.

PROVE IT you useless wannabe stolen valor OLD senile wannabe LUBBER WOG LYING POS.

PROVE IT bitch.

SINCE you CLAIM service in the US NAVY you useless senile OLD lying foul wannabe lubber WOG ...

Where do YOU claim to have done boot WOG?

Where did you do YOUR "A"/"C"/other school WOG?

What was YOUR first ship WOG?

What was YOUR RATE WOG?

What ships did YOU serve on and where and when WOG?

What was YOUR Department WOG? What was YOUR Division WOG?

Where did YOU cross the line WOG, on board what ship WOG?

Where's YOUR Honorable Discharge WOG?

Where's YOUR DD-214 WOG?

Tell us all about it WOG.

YOU COWARD. YOU LIAR. YOU CREEP. YOU WANNABE LUBBER WOG.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26   21:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Biff Tannen (#109)

What is going on here, Mad Dog??? It's looking like you're some kind of fucking poser.

Maybe it looks that way to ignorant losers biffffffffffffffffy.

What's going on here is that I enlisted in the NAVY 43 years ago and got OUT of the NAVY 37 years ago.

I don't remember many of the bullshit details.

So F ing what?

As if that proves anything, except that I'm actually getting old?

WE were BUSY doing our thang.

This ignorant WOG Fer can't even tell between a FTM (Firecontrol Technician Missiles and a FC, whatever the F THAT is, which didn't even exist in the NAVY that I was in 11/67-1/74).

This senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG has to be one of yours bifffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffy, he's far too STUPID to have ever been allowed into MY NAVY.

But thanks SO much for "caring" bifffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffy.

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26   21:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: foul senile OLD wannabe LUBBER WOG bitch nolu chan (#108)

USS Horne at pp. 208-209. USS Horne earned two (2) Combat Action Ribbons, both as a cruiser designated CG-30, on 17 Jan 1991 and 28 Feb 1991.

USS Parsons at p. 339. USS Parsons never earned a Combat Action Ribbon.

That's a straight up LIE.

USS Horne DLG-30 got a Combat Action Ribbon while I was aboard her, (1/70- 1/71).

I don't give a F what you quote.

You dumb phuck wannabe LUBBER WOG, I bet that you didn't even know that HORNE was a DLG before she was kicked up to CG.

She was DLG-30 when I served aboard her FOOL.

USS Parsons certainly did get a CAR during the three years I was aboard her.

Let me ask you a honest question WOG.

Is how you are acting, calling me a LIAR about every aspect of my service, the way that you'd like to be treated? Or do you think it is OK to treat an 'old ex destroyer sailor the way that you have been treating me?

You call me a LIAR with NO proof of me lying.

Did I make mistakes? You are damned right I did. I haven't even thought about this shit in decades.

You will notice that I have NOT called your claims to service LIES.

I have only asked you to PROVE your own CLAIMS of service.

BUT YOU HAVE NO WAY TO PROVE THAT YOU EVER SERVED do you WOG?

Hmmmmm isn't THAT interesting WOG?

The LIES I am addressing are YOUR LIES about MY service.

You feel free to attack me and MY service in the foulest of ways, with zero PROOF that I am a LIAR or fraud, just like the libTURD filth do.

Yet YOU don't even have the BALLS to tell me ANY of the details of your own CLAIMED 20 years of service.

YOU are a LIAR, YOU are a HYPOCRITE and IF you really are a US NAVY vet YOU ARE A WORTHLESS LUBBER WOG.

You know why WOG?

No YOU don't.

WOG.

And btw WOG when and where did YOU cross the line?

You sound like some fat azzed lifer yeoman who never spent a day at sea, or some brown shoe that thinks living on a bird farm is rough duty.

I pray to the one true GOD that you don't even TRY to claim to have ever been a destroyerman, because frankly WOG YOU are an embarrassment to any fleet you ever slitherd through. I just hope it wasn't MY fleet, or my type.

You are truly a pitiful and insipid little chickenshit excuse of a "man" WOG, and I can't even dare to say here what kind of "mariner" you are and ever were.

YOU look like exactly what YOU are sparky, a foul wannabe LUBBER WOG who has NO HONOR.

KMA

M. Doggus Maximus (EX US NAVY)

FTW!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26   22:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Mad Dog (#111)

Mad Dog #111

And WOG I was a FTM, the M means MISSILES bird brain.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=461#C461

I was a FTM nec1139 AN/SPS-48 (uv), part of GMFS-76, a Terrier system on board USS Horne DLG-30, a Tartar system ob USS Parsons DDG-33.

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Mad Dog posted on 2007-01-12 2:26:21 ET

What's your problem, skippy? You couldn't even remember your own NEC? You just can't keep your lies straight. Deal with it, fraud.

FC-1139 is GCS MK 160 MOD 8/OSS MK 46 MOD 1 Fire Control Technician.

FC-1140 is AN/SPS-48E Search Radar Technician.

NAVPERS 18068F, Vol 2, page 28:

You claimed NEC 1139:

FC-1139 GCS MK 160 MOD 8/OSS MK 46 MOD 1 Fire Control Technician Performs planned and corrective maintenance on the Gun Computer System MK 160 MOD 8 and Optical Sight System MK 46 MOD 1 of the Gun Weapon System MK 34 MOD 1 at the organizational and intermediate levels. Performs casualty analysis, fault detection/isolation, modular replacement, repair, test and alignment of individual equipment using Built-In-Test Capability. Operates the GCS Gun Console (GC) and OSS Control and Display (CDC) consoles and associated equipment in support of the ship's combat weapon system in a tactical situation and during test and evaluation.

http://www.tpub.com/gunners/232.htm

The MK-34 Gun system.

(GCS), a 5"/54 Mk 45 gun system, and an EX 46 optical sight. The following is a brief description of each of these components except for the 5"/54 Mk 45 gun that was described in chapter 6.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   22:25:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Mad Dog, Biff Tannen (#112)

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24188&Disp=112#C112

This ignorant WOG Fer can't even tell between a FTM (Firecontrol Technician Missiles and a FC, whatever the F THAT is, which didn't even exist in the NAVY that I was in 11/67-1/74).

FT started out as FC and reverted back to FC in 1985. For the past quarter-century, FT refers solely to submariners. I am not surprised that skippy does not know what an FC is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Controlman

The rating was established in 1941. It was split off of the Gunners Mate rating. Fire Controlman were highly skilled Sailors responsible for the operation of various forms of range finding gear, and solving ballistic calculations to control the firing of the ship's guns. These skills were originally employed primarily for Naval Gunfire Support, and surface combat, but today Fire Controlman also play an extensive role in Air Warfare as well.

The Fire Controlman Rating was later renamed "Fire Control Technician" (FT), with specific sub-designators for Gunnery (FTG), Missiles (FTM) and Submarines (FTS).

In 1985 the name of this Navy rating has changed back to Fire Controlman (FC). This allowed for the separation of the submarine rate FT from Surface rate FT to FC. FC was the original name of the rate through WWII when optic devices called Theodolites were used. After WWII, when the duties changed to more technical things like radar and computers, the name was changed to Fire Control Technician (FT). The FT name is now used exclusively for Fire Control personnel on Submarines. The rating insignia is an optical rangefinder (Theodolite) (on a tripod), with two lightning bolts (called "sparks") signifying the technical side. Until 1985 it had always been just the rangefinder without the lightning bolts.

You claimed NEC 1139:

FC-1139 GCS MK 160 MOD 8/OSS MK 46 MOD 1 Fire Control Technician Performs planned and corrective maintenance on the Gun Computer System MK 160 MOD 8 and Optical Sight System MK 46 MOD 1 of the Gun Weapon System MK 34 MOD 1 at the organizational and intermediate levels. Performs casualty analysis, fault detection/isolation, modular replacement, repair, test and alignment of individual equipment using Built-In-Test Capability. Operates the GCS Gun Console (GC) and OSS Control and Display (CDC) consoles and associated equipment in support of the ship's combat weapon system in a tactical situation and during test and evaluation.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-26   22:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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