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Title: NY-09 Winner Ran From Ryan Plan (Nevada winner too)
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Frum Forum
URL Source: http://www.frumforum.com/ny-9-winner-ran-from-ryan-plan
Published: Sep 14, 2011
Author: Frum Forum
Post Date: 2011-09-14 20:58:26 by go65
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Views: 777
Comments: 6
The victory of Bob Turner in heavily Democratic NY-09 is clearly not good news for Democrats. When the media hasn’t picked up is that Turner benefited by not embracing the Paul Ryan budget. Mickey Kaus has some good points about the inability for Democrats to win on entitlements: However, I think it is a mistake to interpret Kaus here as saying that Mediscaring / Social Security-scaring has been proven ineffective. If anything, this election suggests that the Obamacare cuts to Medicare do provide an opportunity for Republicans to run on this issue, but running against Social Security and Medicare might not be the way to do it. Bob Turner distanced himself from the Ryan budget on Medicare and from Rick Perry (or at least the Perry of Fed Up!) on Social Security. The “Issues” page on his website reads (emphasis added): Mediscare couldn’t work against Turner because he pledged his total support for Medicare. Indeed, he has spoken strongly against the Ryan budget. This election is less a sign of victory for the Ryan budget and more a sign that Republicans can run away from this budget (at least if they haven’t voted for it) and win. Even in the far more GOP-friendly special election in Nevada, Republican winner Mark Amodei at times expressed some reservations about the Ryan budget (even as he praised Ryan for trying to solve the problem). Amodei refused to say whether he would vote for it or not. Vowing to protect Social Security and Medicare, a Republican was able to win in a strongly Democratic district. If Turner had run on the Ryan budget and declared Social Security unconstitutional, the result might have been quite different. NY-09 is not representative of the nation as a whole (it usually favors Democrats), but, if Republicans hope to cast this election as representative, they might do well to note what their man did not run on.
It’s the possibility that the Democrats favorite issue–Social Security–didn’t work to save them because Obama, too, has embraced cutting Social Security and Medicare in “some undefined ‘everything on the table’ entitlement reform,” as Weigel puts it. Could it be that the differences between Obama’s Medicare cuts and GOP Rep. Paul Ryan’s Medicare cuts–differences that seem so significant to policy analysts in Washington (and to me)–don’t have much salience in the crude argumentation of direct-mail electioneering?
Social Security and Medicare represent solemn commitments made by the government to people who have been paying into this system their entire lives. I believe that these programs should be preserved as they are for those in or near retirement and that we should work to strengthen and preserve them for our children and future generations. I oppose efforts to privatize or bankrupt either. I would work with members of both parties to reach a solution that will meet our obligations on both of these programs.
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BBBBBBWWWWHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Eat it, bitch:):):):):) You're OUT. As in "run out on a rail". I'm so seriesly looking forward to your embolism come Nov 2012 you evil shilling communist bootlicker:):):)
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. (decided to retire the beatdowns on old worthless retread posters that are bozoed)
lmao. You lost another historic election DUMBASS. Spin it any way you like.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
He has you on bozo, Boofer. You've sent him "hundreds of thousands of posts" (laughing) to which there is no reply. What does that say about you? [snicker]
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
What is obvious is what both of them did do was actively campaign against Obama.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Not surprising given West Virginia's Democrat Senator has been doing the same thing in WV, and is wildly popular there. Expect more and more dems to run away from Owe-bama as the election draws near. Why? Because its their only option if they want to survive.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Asked if he still supports collective bargaining rights for state workers—which has become a conservative litmus test—Amodei answered simply: “Absolutely.”
#2. To: gotobamaina69 (#0)
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#3. To: go65 (#0)
#4. To: Badeye (#3)
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--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#5. To: go65 (#0)
#6. To: no gnu taxes (#5)
What is obvious is what both of them did do was actively campaign against Obama.
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