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Title: Santorum: ‘People Are Living Too Long’
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RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2 ... um-people-are-living-too-long/
Published: Sep 14, 2011
Author: DAVID EDWARDS
Post Date: 2011-09-14 12:09:19 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 11821
Comments: 37
Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum told supporters in Lancaster, South Carolina Tuesday that the Social Security retirement age had to be increased because “people are living too long.” “Does anybody in this room believe that somebody that 62 years old is too old to work in America today?” Santorum asked. “Social Security was established for people who were too old to work and therefore they needed the support of the federal government.” “Now back in 1936 we probably did and that made sense. Why? Because life expectancy in 1936 was 61. It’s now 80… So you have a situation where things have changed, and for our young people it will even be longer. We keep gaining about a month every few years, we gain in life expectancy. And so the idea that we’re going to keep the Social Security program locked in on a 1937 actuarial chart makes no sense at all.” He continued: “Do you know what your life expectancy at 65 is? 85. So you have folks living at least 20 years… Ronald Reagan saw this problem and said, ‘Look, we have to do the common sense thing. We have to phase the retirement age back.’ What did he do? Twenty-five years from 1983 he started to phase it back. And we did and that’s where we are right now. We are in the middle of a phase up to age 76 which will be normal retirement age.” “Well, we need to continue to do that. Not radically. But look at where the revenues are coming in and where the expenses are and we need to adjust everything from cost of living increase for high income seniors is one thing. We can look at retirement ages. And again, you still will be able to retire at 62 and take Social Security, you’ll just get a slightly smaller benefit. Why? Because we can’t afford the benefit structure we have because people are living too long.” Watch this video from CNN, broadcast Sept. 13, 2011.
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
Yea. We should be lowering the retirement age to make room for young people starting out in life.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
My Granny made it to 109 and lived in three centuries. She passed on in 2001. He must hate her.
Somebody tell this wingnut what the unemployment rate is.
Sorry for your loss. That noted, she'd recognize Owe-bama's failed economic policies, having lived through the same with FDR in the 30's.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
He must hate her. She saw more changes in her lifetime than any previous generation. Only if she wasn't working at a full time job (being a housewife doesn't count) until right before her death.
I was lucky to have her for so long. I started to get gray hair while she was still alive. Everyone who knew her called her "Granny". She was a wonderful person. Thanks for your kind remarks.
You've never actually discussed that topic with anyone from that generation, have you?
She really did. She came over on The Boat to Ellis Island when she was 12. She worked in some sort of hat-maker factory in her young days - they had a name for it that escapes me at the moment. There was a tragic factory fire in NYC in the 1920s - dozens of women died there. I'm sure war can look it up for me.
She must have had some stories to tell. You were lucky to have her for so long.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
My parents lived through the Depression - to them, FDR was a hero.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Haberdasher... Ellis Island from where? My mother in law was one of the last to come through there...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
My grandmother kept her WWII ratioining coupons because she was going to need them for when we fought the Russians...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
I found it. I stand corrected - it was one hundred years ago in 1911. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire
My mother didn't keep coupons, but she kept everything else. Hard times leave their imprint.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Oh...geez...sorry...thought you were looking for the term for hat maker... Sorry...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
You're lucky to be here, Fred.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
At the time she departed it was known as the Austro-Hungarian Empire. More accurately she was from Slovenia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire I saw a tour of that building on the Tee Vee just a few days ago. The floor where all the women died is being remodeled. Most were just teenagers.
Aha...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Okay, I guess I screwed up there. Somehow my Granny was affected by the fire - whether she lost friends or neighbors I don't remember. I guess she was 19 when this factory fire tragedy occurred. Heck, we're talking about 100 years ago. My memory is pretty good. Edit: Granny was around 100 years ago, not me.
It was...there was a memorial serrvice commerating the event this past year...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
I guess all of NYC was affected by that fire.
Excuse the interruption, but I'm prompted to ask... I realize you are quite the style-maven. Would wearing a fedora with a lycra-spandex onesy be considered tacky in the Tri-ath Communitah?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Sorry Libby...you're on your own this Halloween...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Hey - look who's here! Slumming again? :-)
__________________________________________________________________________________________ Aww, man. Won't even indulge me? :-( Actually you did, didn't you...thanks.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Lol - I guess I'm inspired ;-)
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Bull...you're here because Goldi gave you a Red Assin' because of your Yukon-a- phobia... He's got to be her bastard child... Or vice versa...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
She did? When? I was just posting a few minutes ago... BTW - can the 0bama idol-poster, please. It's high time.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Or vice versa... There's something very odd going on there.... I don't think yukon's family of giant gerbils loved him enough.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
One of the original ideas of SS in the depression era was to induce earlier retirement to make room for younger people.
THAT plan was obviously before they knew the dominant demographic of the US would resemble Brazil.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Thanks for your kind remarks. Your welcome. Around age 25 I realized anyone of advanced age had some great stories to tell, and usually they were eager to talk to someone. Used to talk to a neighbor that was born around 1900....just stories about everyday life made you appreciate what you have today.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Sure have. Lots of old timers out here in farm country, ming.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Liberator's comment makes no sense - Brazil has a young population much larger than their older population. If that was the American case that we had Brazilian old to young ratios, than having people retire earlier to open up jobs for younger people (at lower salaries than long term employees) would be imperative for the USA.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
Anyone else recall Owe-bama making the same point on the campaign trail in 08?
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
You don't act like a farmer.
“Does anybody in this room believe that somebody that 62 years old is too old to work in America today?”
#2. To: Brian S (#0)
#3. To: Brian S (#0)
#4. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
My Granny made it to 109 and lived in three centuries. She passed on in 2001.
#5. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
My Granny made it to 109 and lived in three centuries. She passed on in 2001.
#6. To: Badeye (#4)
#7. To: Badeye (#4)
That noted, she'd recognize Owe-bama's failed economic policies, having lived through the same with FDR in the 30's.
#8. To: mininggold, war (#5)
#9. To: Fred Mertz (#6)
I was lucky to have her for so long. I started to get gray hair while she was still alive. Everyone who knew her called her "Granny". She was a wonderful person.
#10. To: mininggold (#7)
You've never actually discussed that topic with anyone from that generation, have you?
#11. To: Fred Mertz (#8)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#12. To: lucysmom (#10)
(Edited)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#13. To: mininggold, war, lucysmom (#7)
#14. To: war (#12)
My grandmother kept her WWII ratioining coupons because she was going to need them for when we fought the Russians...
#15. To: Fred Mertz (#13)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#16. To: Fred Mertz (#13)
... it was one hundred years ago in 1911.
#17. To: war (#11)
Ellis Island from where?
#18. To: Fred Mertz (#13)
I found it. I stand corrected - it was one hundred years ago in 1911.
#19. To: Fred Mertz (#17)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#20. To: war (#15)
(Edited)
Under the ownership of Max Blanck and Isaac Harris, the factory produced women's blouses, known as "shirtwaists."
#21. To: Fred Mertz (#20)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#22. To: war (#21)
#23. To: war (#11)
Haberdasher...
#24. To: Liberator (#23)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#25. To: Liberator (#23)
Liberator
ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!
#26. To: war (#24)
(Edited)
#27. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#25)
Slumming again? :-)
#28. To: Liberator (#27)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#29. To: war (#28)
Bull...you're here because Goldi gave you a Red Assin' because of your Yukon-a- phobia...
#30. To: war (#28)
He's [yukon] got to be her bastard child...
#31. To: Godwinson, Brian S (#1)
We should be lowering the retirement age to make room for young people starting out in life.
#32. To: nolu chan (#31)
One of the original ideas of SS in the depression era was to induce earlier retirement to make room for younger people.
#33. To: Fred Mertz (#6)
I was lucky to have her for so long. I started to get gray hair while she was still alive. Everyone who knew her called her "Granny". She was a wonderful person.
#34. To: mininggold (#7)
You've never actually discussed that topic with anyone from that generation, have you?
#35. To: Liberator, nolu chan (#32)
THAT plan was obviously before they knew the dominant demographic of the US would resemble Brazil.
#36. To: All (#0)
#37. To: Badeye (#34)
Sure have. Lots of old timers out here in farm country, ming.
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