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Title: Nader: Americans Ignore The Cause Of 9/11
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2 ... icans-ignore-the-cause-of-911/
Published: Sep 13, 2011
Author: By Eric W. Dolan
Post Date: 2011-09-13 20:06:12 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 7700
Comments: 20

After attending a 9/11 panel in northwest D.C. on Monday, Ralph Nader told The Nation‘s George Zornick that Americans had mostly ignored the reasons that the terrorist attacks occurred.

“All we want to say is that it was a terrorist attack, it was evil, don’t talk about what caused it,” he said. “What really lead to it was, one, we back dictators over there that repress and kill their own people with American arms. Two, we support the Israeli position against the rights of the Palestinian people to have their own state. And three, we have repeatedly failed — no matter how much money we spend — to defend our own country.”

“The folly of the military-industrial complex is that it not only erodes our economy and destroys a quality standard of living, but it also insures an empire which is insatiable in terms of the contracts that Lockheed Martin and others want to dominate the world,” Nader added. “It’s just the opposite of defense, an empire eventually devours its own people.”

Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) was booed at the CNN/Tea Party Republican debate on Monday night for trying to explain why al Qaeda had attacked the U.S. Subscribe to *RON PAUL 2012*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

The Tet Offensive

"The gunbattle is continuing," Interior Ministry spokesman Sadiq Sadiqi said.

U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Kerri Hannan said that staff had been ordered to take cover in hardened structures. She later issued a statement confirming an attack by gunmen firing rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire.

"We can confirm there are no casualties at this time among embassy personnel," she said.

I said Oct 01 we'd lose. Bring 'em home now. while we can.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-13   20:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...8&feature=player_embedded

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-13   21:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

US Embassy, Kabul still under attack...

TET....;}

Deadly fighting that has erupted between Taliban militants and security forces near the US embassy and NATO headquarters in Kabul is still underway, Press TV reports.

At least two gunmen were hiding in the multi-story building from which the militants had started their attacks on the heavily-fortified embassy on Tuesday and gunfire could be heard early Wednesday.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-13   21:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3) (Edited)

“Why do these major media outlets continue to maintain the fiction that something good happened in Iraq?” he said. “Once that fiction is revealed, then the Petraeus myth is destroyed completely.”

Notice how the State Always makes it look like present battle is in the past?

CIA Director David Petraeus said on Tuesday that a “handful of individuals” entered a building that was under construction several hundred meters from the mission and then opened fire and fired rocket-propelled grenades at the area of the embassy.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-13   21:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm (#4)

That action was still going on according to the evening news FWIW.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-13   23:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#5)

That action was still going on according to the evening news FWIW.

20 hours. It's over.

For now.

But attacking a US Embassy is an everyday occurence now. It must be, cause no one's taslking about it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-14   10:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6)

And I'm still wondering how a truck bomb kills 5 (?) Afghans and wounds 80 US Soldiers.

But none killed. They'd have to be standing in a circle at distance from the truck.

No more than two deep. With the five Afghans inside the circle.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-14   10:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm (#7)

Yeah, that's quite a mystery.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-14   10:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#0)

Always nice to see the Hate and Blame America first wing of the Democratic Party is alive and well.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-14   10:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#9)

Always nice to see the Hate and Blame America first wing of the Democratic Party is alive and well.

The Top 400 wage war against America.

Raping and Pillaging the Planet, they call it 'bringing Democracy'....;}

Interesting, the concept of trading paper for oil. This is something we engineered when Nixon closed the gold window in 1971. Before we'd have had to trade gold for oil, and now? Just paper. A nice trick. But that was simply a coping mechanism that came about because we needed to maintain our supplies of cheap oil and didn't want to give away our gold in return.

And, when one does that, it doesn't come for free - there are winners and losers. When the US prints dollars, it effectively taxes savings to make this happen. What that does is encourage debt, and discourage savings. The 1970s trashed savers, and encouraged all sorts of debt and speculation to stay ahead of inflation. So perhaps we can say, a direct result of losing our oil superpower status was stripmined savings. This educated a generation of Americans formerly used to saving that saving is wrong and accumulating debt is the right strategy since debts are inflated away.

Perhaps one can say today's casino ridden debt-laden society came directly from the end of domestic cheap oil and our decision to print money instead of downsize our energy usage?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-14   12:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mcgowanjm (#10)

Gotta admit sometimes your posts make me wish I had internet access from home.

Nothing puts me to sleep quicker.....

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-14   12:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Badeye (#11)

Crown Royal does...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-14   12:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#12)

Actually since I stopped intake of caffeine after 12 noon, I don't drink much Crown at all Freddie.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-14   14:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#13) (Edited)

You still sucking down that American Honey? Edit: I removed my ungentlemanly comment.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-14   16:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

You still sucking down that American Honey?

Had a shot at a friends house about a month ago along with one of his fine ceegars lol. Good stuff.

Seriously, the cut back on caffeine made a gigantic difference. I should have done it 15 years ago to be honest. Now...hell, 10:30 I'm falling asleep on the couch.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-14   16:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Badeye (#15)

How many cups of coffee do you have in the mornings? My 91 year-old friend advised me buy decaf because some days I'd be jittery around lunch time. She's got wisdom and I think I'll take her advice next time I shop.

A number of years ago I bought decaf coffee by mistake and didn't realize it until my brother pointed it out. I didn't even notice any difference.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-14   17:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

we back dictators over there that repress and kill their own people with American arms

Let's look at a little history from a pragmatic viewpoint...

The American government supported all kinds of nasty regimes during the Cold War to fight communism. I supported it all with no apologies because the communists had enslaved half of the world and had tens of thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at us.

After the Cold War ended, the American government stopped supporting nasty regimes in Asia and Latin America. Unfortunately, they continued to support horrendous dictatorships in the Middle East.

The American government's closest buddy in the Middle East -- the Saudi Royal Family -- runs the most brutal regime in the entire world, except for maybe North Korea. The U.S. government gave more than $50 billion dollars to the tyrant Mubarak in Egypt. They also gave billions of dollars to the dictators of Pakistan which developed nuclear missiles against the U.S. government's wishes.

The people living in oppression in the Middle East rightfully started to question why the U.S. government was continuing to prop up brutal regimes long after the Cold War ended.

Unfortunately, very few Americans really understand what the U.S. government has done in their name around the world since we won the Cold War.

No, the oppressed peoples of the Middle East did not have a right to murder innocent American civilians on 9/11. Yes, we need to root out the radicals who did this.

But we also need to understand that desperate people do desperate things.

Fortunately, the end of the Cold War is finally reaching the peoples of the Middle East.

The question is what will replace those regimes? Liberty and markets? Or a different type of tyranny? The answer is likely to be both, at least for a short period of time.

America must always be on the side of liberty and markets.


Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-14   17:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#11)

Nothing puts me to sleep quicker.....

sweet dreams. this. 8D

We hardly needed confirmation that a) Bank of America is a den of criminals and thieves, that b) its toxic $1.3 trillion mortgage division, better known as Countrywide, is an even scarier and more putrid den of criminals and thieves, and that c) it retaliates against anyone who dares to remind the bank that there are such things as laws, and the aforementioned criminals and thieves actually have to follow these.

Yet this is precisely what we just got after the Department of Labor said that it must pay $930,000 to an employee who led internal probes of abuses at its Countrywide Financial unit and was fired in violation of whistleblower protections. Bloomberg reports "the employee, who also must be reinstated, had claimed that people who tried to report fraud to Countrywide’s employee- relations department suffered persistent retaliation, the agency said today in a statement. He was fired after Charlotte, North Carolina-based Bank of America’s 2008 purchase of Countrywide, according to the statement."

So is it possible that the general public can now get the documentation that said whistleblower was fired for attempting to bring to his retaliating superiors' attention? And just how damaging will this development be to a bank which is already embroiled in litigation with virtually every single entity that has every transacted in mortgages both in America, and now abroad?"

gotta love amerika...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-14   22:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#18) (Edited)

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-09-14   22:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

Too many lmao. But the change to no caffeine after noon did the trick. That, and a 9 month old pittie that wakes me up at exactly 4 50 each morning lol.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-15   7:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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