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Title: Hey GOP 2012ers: You Lie!
Source: Mother Jones
URL Source: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/09/hey-gop-2012ers-you-lie
Published: Sep 13, 2011
Author: David Corn
Post Date: 2011-09-13 15:16:53 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 2474
Comments: 4

Let's cut to the chase: The GOP presidential field is a pack of liars.

That sounds like a rather intemperate assessment, the sort of statement that is motivated by bitter partisanship or blinding ideology. But taking a clear-eyed look at both the false statements hurled at Monday's Republican debate (brought to you by the odd merger of CNN and the Tea Party Express) and those deployed at other times in this still burgeoning primary race, it's difficult to reach any other conclusion. Most of these presidential wannabes are shoveling lies—and forcing fact-checkers to work overtime.

Glenn Kessler, who writes the Washington Post's Fact Checker column, spotted numerous whoppers [1] at Monday's debate. (It was easy work). Some examples:

  • Texas Gov. Rick Perry repeated the conservative trope that Obama's stimulus package "created zero jobs." Zero? The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says the bill lifted employment levels—by creating or saving jobs—by up to 3 million jobs. Politifact.com, a Pulitzer Prize-winning site, previously awarded [2] Perry a "pants on fire" verdict for making this untrue claim in September.

  • Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney claimed that President Barack Obama "cut Medicare by $500 billion," and Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), more provocatively (of course) contended that the president "stole over $500 billion out of Medicare to switch it to Obamacare." Not so. Obama's health care plan calls for saving $500 billion over 10 years, to be squeezed from payments to health care providers. The amount of Medicare spending will continue to rise. Moreover, the House GOP budget this year calls for the same level of cuts (even though Republican candidates ran against Democrats in the last election, accusing Obama and the Dems of slashing Medicare).
  • Newt Gingrich boasted that he "helped balance the budget for four straight years" when he was the House Speaker. Actually, the budget was only balanced for two of the years covered by his speakership. And it was balanced partly because revenues were increased by President Bill Clinton; Gingrich opposed Clinton's tax hikes.
  • Bachmann threw out another one of her favorite fake charges: By trying to raise the debt ceiling, Obama was seeking a "$2.4 trillion blank check." There's nothing true [3] about this charge. Raising the debt ceiling only permitted the federal government to pay its bills for spending already approved; it did not provide the president with any ability to spend. (Note to Bachmann: Per the Constitution, Congress controls spending.)

Politifact.com found other big lies hiding in plain sight [4]:

  • Under attack from Romney, Perry defended his claim that Social Security is a "Ponzi scheme," noting, "It has been called a Ponzi scheme by many people before me." Politifact.com declares, "the analogy does not hold up."
  • Perry was bashed by Bachmann for issuing a 2007 executive order requiring all Texas girls to receive a vaccine against the human papillomavirus (a vaccine produced by Merck, which had retained Perry's former chief of staff as a lobbyist and donated to his campaign). Perry, admitting he had erred in how he had imposed this requirement, repeatedly asserted that he had allowed an opt-out for parents who didn't want their daughters to receive this vaccine. According to Politifact Texas, this claim is "mostly false [5]."

Oh, and there have been so many more falsehoods flung during the fledgling campaign. At the previous week's debate at the Reagan presidential library, ex-Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania claimed that Obama was forced to take action in Libya by the United Nations. Not even close. Obama's ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, had pushed the Security Council for a very forceful resolution endorsing military intervention in Libya. During this debate, Romney, according to Factcheck.org [6], "misleadingly claimed that the Massachusetts health care overhaul [he enacted] affected just 8 percent of the state's residents, while the federal law will affect '100 percent of the people.'" Both plans compelled everyone to obtain insurance or pay a penalty.

Perry was not speaking the truth [6] when he called Obama an "abject liar" for claiming that overall crime rates in towns on the US-Mexico border had declined. Crime rates had dropped. Perry also sidestepped the truth [7] when he blamed the high rate of uninsured Texans on the federal government's refusal to grant his state flexibility for its various health care programs. It was the Bush administration that rejected the state's request for a waiver, because its application was shoddy and incomplete. Then Texas never resubmitted the application.

Bachmann, for her part, dropped one false bomb [7] after another. She claimed the CBO had found that "Obamacare is killing jobs." (Nope. The CBO had said that under Obama's health care overhaul a small number of people who are only working to obtain health care insurance would leave their jobs because they would be able to receive health care through other means.) She maintained that "Obamacare took over one-sixth of the American economy." (It was no government takeover. Politifact.com branded this contention the "lie of the year [8]" in 2010.) And she falsely asserted [7] that Obama has told Israel that "they need to shrink back to their indefensible 1967 borders." (Obama said that the 1967 borders should be a starting point for the Israeli-Palestinian talks.)

All told, this is a big pile of collective bull. (And we're only considering two debates.) But this heap of untruths poses a problem to political journalists: Should they take serial liars seriously? Given that one of them might end up in the White House, they must.

The mainstream media tends to shy away from describing candidates as liars. It can be seen as a qualitative judgment, and they like to stick to the facts. Media outlets do provide fact-checking features, such as Kessler's excellent column. But they don't see it as their job to call out the candidates. After all, did CNN's Wolf Blitzer press any of the GOPers on their false statements?

The L-word is heavy artillery—ammo that's tough to deploy. Lying suggests willfully peddling information known to be false. And who can read the mind of a politician? Yet in many of the instances cited above, the perps are repeat offenders—restating false statements that had already been demonstrated to be untrue. So though one cannot see what a candidate is thinking—perhaps Bachmann truly believes that Obama "stole" $500 billion from Medicare—a public figure who willfully (and repeatedly) neglects facts warrants being branded a liar. If not a liar, there's another choice: delusional.

Politicians on all sides do tend to mug the truth. But the GOP race has amounted to a crime spree. And that's as much of a story as who's up and who's down. 

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#1. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Hey GOP 2012ers: You Lie!

Boofer being the Captain of the GOP Cheerleading team underscores this...

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war  posted on  2011-09-13   15:20:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

There is no way to measure "jobs saved". It's a concocted term that Obama is using to fool the idiots to keep supporting him.

Job growth has ALWAYS been measured by the NET increase in jobs period-over- period.

Government bureaucrats can invent whatever Orwellian language they want, but that won't change the facts. The facts are the Obama administration has one goal -- to increase the size, scope, and control that government has over us. He doesn't care about anything else.

Most independent voters do understand the facts today. That is why they are abandoning Obama.


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jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-13   15:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#2)

Both numbers went down after the "stimulus" was passed.

Economies don't stop and turn around on a dime.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-13   15:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#2) (Edited)

There is no way to measure "jobs saved".

You really are stupid.

If the stimulus was designed to extend construction projects that would have ended or target a particular industry in distress and those projects go forward and the industry saved, then those jobs were most certainly saved. Obama's stim did just that...

I'm not sure what it was that you should have paid better attention to in school but it should have been a lot more than you did...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-09-13   15:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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