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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: DENIED! Muslims’ Application for $5 Million in Taxpayer Funds for the Ground Zero Victory Mosque Source: BareNakedIslam URL Source: http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com ... he-ground-zero-victory-mosque/ Published: Sep 12, 2011 Author: staff Post Date: 2011-09-12 10:47:57 by Murron Keywords: None Views: 17253 Comments: 42 DENIED! Muslims’ Application for $5 Million in Taxpayer Funds for the Ground Zero Victory Mosque The jihadist-linked developers of the Park51 (Ground Zero Victory Mosque) Islamic center had the cojones to ask for federal post-9/11 recovery money to get their project off the ground. Fortunately, they failed. DNA Park5182;s request for funding sparked controversy among those who did not want to see an Islamic center so close to the site of the 9/11 attacks. It appears that Park51 did not meet the eligibility requirements because the organization has not yet received its nonprofit certification. Park51 recently applied for a $5 million grant from the Lower Manhattan Development Corp., which has distributed over $2 billion in federal funds since 9/11. The grant would have partly gone toward Islamic programs at the planned $100 million mosque and community center two blocks north of the World Trade Center site, including domestic violence prevention, Arabic and other foreign language classes. The Park51 center “is desperately needed in Lower Manhattan,” said the developers. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Murron (#0) DENIED! Muslims’ Application for $5 Million in Taxpayer Funds for the Ground Zero Victory Mosque First, the proposed community center isn't a mosque. Second, it isn't located at ground zero - and we haven't even gotten through the title. Just the kind of hateful, hyperbolic garbage I've come to expect from you. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-12   10:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: All (#0) I've been out of the grid for awhile and hadn't heard about this, so I posted it for anyone else who hadn't seen this. ~ Murron Federal grant rejected for mosque near Ground Zero site Kay Day, Conservative Examiner August 23, 2011 Park51, formerly Cordoba House and commonly called the Ground Zero Mosque, has been denied a federal grant to help fund the building developers describe as a community center. The project drew attention from Americans in 2010 after the local community council approved the plans. Many conservatives acknowledged the right of developers to place whatever they wanted on the site. However, many of those same conservatives like Charles Krauthammer admitted not liking the location. Opponents viewed the project as demonstrating a lack of sensitivity to a country whose roots are Judeo- Christian. After a controversy erupted in the blogosphere in 2010, legacy media focused on cultural diversity angles, ignoring the feelings of some families of 9/11 victims. President Barack Obama reassured mosque developers they had the right to build the mosque, but unfortunately the president overlooked the issue of residual grief, not just in the hearts of those who lost loved ones, but in the hearts of many across the nation. In one bizarre moment of hundreds during Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) role as Speaker of the US House of Representatives, she actually called for an investigation of the opposition. Pelosi, perhaps unaware of the first amendment to the US Constitution, didn’t appear to realize the issue surfaced only after Obama talked about it during the annual White House gathering marking the Muslim holy observance of Ramadan. At the Park51 website there’s a blog post explaining the need for the grant to “fund social service programs.” Federal grants often make their way into projects that have no constitutional basis, particularly when the federal money is allocated to another municipality or agency who then dispenses the funds. The New York Times, perhaps the greatest promoter of sophistic ideas about cultural diversity on the planet, said in a recent article that developers were embracing the “slower, more deliberate and more realistic approach to the project.” The developers, suggested the newspaper, want to build more public support. The project has undergone changes internally, from removing the imam at the helm to hosting a photographic project related to children. That project raised thousands of dollars; no mention was made of whether federal or other government funds were involved in the exhibit. Some victims’ families aren’t taking a chance on the developer getting federal funds. The Epoch Times, one of the sole media to cover the rejected grant application, interviewed some families. The newspaper said, “A group of city firefighters, police officers, and relatives of those who died during the 9/11 terrorist attacks gathered near the World Trade Center site on Monday to condemn Park51’s potential reapplication for federal grant money.” Murron  posted on  2011-09-12   11:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: lucysmom, Viscount13 (#1) (Edited) On the first part you are correct...the second...well...I'm a block north of WTC and the center is 1/2 block east of me...I feel as if I'm at Ground Zero... I could be wrong tho... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-09-12   11:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Murron (#2) Many conservatives acknowledged the right of developers to place whatever they wanted on the site. Bullshit. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-09-12   11:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: war (#3) On the first part you are correct...the second...well...I'm a block north of WTC and the center is 1/2 block east of me...I feel as if I'm at Ground Zero... I could be wrong tho... From 3,000 miles away, when some one says "ground zero" it sounds like the proposed community center is on the WTC site itself. Had I shared your experience on that day, I have no doubt I'd feel as you do. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-12   11:25:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: lucysmom (#5) When I worked in the Pentagon years ago, we called the interior open (outdoor) space ground zero FWIW. They had a snack shop at the very center in some sort of gazebo looking structure. Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-12   11:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: lucysmom (#5) Pentagon Cold War Legend to be Torn Down The hot dog stand in the Pentagon's center courtyard, which has long been a source of Cold War speculation, folklore and legend, will be torn down in the coming months. During the Cold War, the Soviets reportedly thought the hot dog stand led to a secret underground bunker. (DOD photo/Steven Donald Smith) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PentagonHotDogStand.jpg I found it. Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-12   11:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: lucysmom (#5) (Edited) After further review, you are correct and I am not. But, look at it this way...it's close enough to make people uncomfortable. I'm on the fence. I find it at the peak of arrogance to do this. But, I also recognize that my own sensibilities aren't, nor should they be, immune from being offended. America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-09-12   11:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Fred Mertz (#7) Interesting trivia...thanks... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-09-12   11:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Fred Mertz (#7) (Edited) the Soviets reportedly thought the hot dog stand led to a secret underground bunker. The Russians had kooks? ------------------------------------- Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here? Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-09-12   11:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Fred Mertz (#7) Hmm - that's some different looking stuff on the roof. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-12   11:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Biff Tannen (#10) The Russians had kooks? Who knew it was Kooks instead of Nukes... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-09-12   11:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: lucysmom (#11) Here is some more trivia that I recall from my Pentagon days. Maybe from the Pentagon tours that they used to give... Before my time that snack shop was swarming with pigeons and their pigeon crap. They used to have some sort of pneumatic device that sounded like a shot gun that used to be in place to scare off the pigeons every 20 minutes or whatever. Then someone with smarts advised them to have that metal owl installed on top of the snack shop and it did the trick - a $30 solution to a million dollar problem. /trivia Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-12   12:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: war (#12) lol ------------------------------------- Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here? Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-09-12   12:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: war (#8) I'm on the fence. I find it at the peak of arrogance to do this. But, I also recognize that my own sensibilities aren't, nor should they be, immune from being offended. There are many Muslims who agree with you believing their religion teaches them to be sensitive to and considerate of the feelings of non-Muslims. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-12   12:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Fred Mertz (#13) Then someone with smarts advised them to have that metal owl installed on top of the snack shop and it did the trick - a $30 solution to a million dollar problem. That's funny! A life size plastic coyote keeps geese off a local harbor's grass. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-12   12:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: lucysmom (#16) I have a plastic owl that I put out in Spring to keep the birds from eating my grass seed... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-09-12   12:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: war (#17) I have a plastic owl that I put out in Spring to keep the birds from eating my grass seed... Is there anything like that that works for squirrels? My dog is more that willing to take on the task, but my neighbors don't appreciate her vocal and enthusiastic work ethic (who can blame them?). "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-12   12:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: lucysmom (#18) Is there anything like that that works for squirrels? No...they are relentless...and if they recognize YOU as being the source of the food, short of killing them you're not going to shoo them effectively... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-09-12   12:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: lucysmom (#1) "First, the proposed community center isn't a mosque. Second, it isn't located at ground zero - and we haven't even gotten through the title. Just the kind of hateful, hyperbolic garbage I've come to expect from you." This is a shame. They have the right to buy this property and to put on it any sort of community asset they see fit to put there. Ditto in regards to your above feedback by the way. Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-09-12   12:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: war (#17) I have a plastic owl that I put out in Spring to keep the birds from eating my grass seed... We have an owl box which has housed families for the last four years. Now if we could only get them to come out during the day when all the berry eating birds are at work. mininggold  posted on  2011-09-12   12:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: lucysmom (#18) My dog is more that willing to take on the task, but my neighbors don't appreciate her vocal and enthusiastic work ethic (who can blame them?). Knock em out of the tree with a BB gun and then let your dog do the dirty work. mininggold  posted on  2011-09-12   12:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: war (#19) No...they are relentless...and if they recognize YOU as being the source of the food... Not only do they eat the fruits of my labor, but they dig up my plants to bury their acorns. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-12   12:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: mininggold (#22) Knock em out of the tree with a BB gun and then let your dog do the dirty work. I literally have missed the broad side of a barn. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-12   12:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: war (#19) "No...they are relentless...and if they recognize YOU as being the source of the food, short of killing them you're not going to shoo them effectively..." You are correct. We gave up trying to adopt aggressive anti squirrel protocols in tree villages at forestry actions in the forest. We just took the posture that we were dealing with critters doing what they do to survive in their own home. As for your owl, how does trying to scare birds with a nocturnal preditor they seldom see because they are out at night make sense? I could understand a plastic hawk, but not an owl. Think about it. Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-09-12   12:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: mininggold (#21) I'm a purple martin fan and have several homes for them, as do others in the neighborhood. They are amazing and keep us mosquito free in the spring and summer. I guess I rarely see owls because they come out after happy hour. Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-12   13:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: lucysmom (#23) "Not only do they eat the fruits of my labor, but they dig up my plants to bury their acorns." This is also an opportunity to share. I am stoic about what I lose from my garden that way. I would do the same thing the critters do were I one of them. Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-09-12   13:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: Ferret Mike (#25) As for your owl, how does trying to scare birds with a nocturnal preditor they seldom see because they are out at night make sense? I could understand a plastic hawk, but not an owl. Think about it. I have a dead owl mounted at the end of a blueberry row. Those are the only berries that the birds leave alone. mininggold  posted on  2011-09-12   13:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Ferret Mike (#25) I don't have to think about it...it works... Any more questions...ask the birds...{;^D America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-09-12   13:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: lucysmom (#23) Makes you double think that donation to PETA do they? I have relatively squirrel proof bird feeders and, when that fails, I put safflower seeds in...they can't stand them...I now use red pepper suet exclusively... But, I have a freind who, as part of his business, has a food warehouse...I get all of his expired peanuts and walnuts...I put them away from the feeders and the squirrels cooperate... America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" --Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything... war  posted on  2011-09-12   13:05:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: mininggold (#28) I have a dead owl mounted at the end of a blueberry row. Those are the only berries that the birds leave alone. Is he stuffed? Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-12   13:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: Fred Mertz (#26) I'm a purple martin fan and have several homes for them, as do others in the neighborhood. They are amazing and keep us mosquito free in the spring and summer. I guess I rarely see owls because they come out after happy hour. We don't have many purple martins but we do have lots of other swallow types here. We put Mosquito Fish in all the troughs and ponds, which seems to do the trick. mininggold  posted on  2011-09-12   13:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: Fred Mertz (#31) Is he stuffed? No, he's pretty dried out. mininggold  posted on  2011-09-12   13:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: mininggold (#33) Where did you find him? It's funny that I seem to love birds, dogs and horses more than mankind. Does that make me abnormal? I think I just hijacked this thread. Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-12   13:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: Fred Mertz (#34) Where did you find him? I found him in a patch of black berries, already dead and dissicated. I've always included many animals as among my best friends. I don't think it makes one abnormal. mininggold  posted on  2011-09-12   13:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: mininggold (#35) I put my hummingbird feeder up this spring after two years of neglect - the other one blew away in a wind storm and broke. Those hummingbirds are amazing too - the size of my thumb. Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-12   14:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: lucysmom (#1) First, the proposed community center isn't a mosque. Second, it isn't located at ground zero - and we haven't even gotten through the title. Just the kind of hateful, hyperbolic garbage I've come to expect from you. It's not my title bimbo, everyone who writes these articles has their own. And if you think all they want to build is a community center, I think the Brooklyn Bridge is still up for sale. Also, if you had taken the time to read the intire piece, you would have seen the phrase "so close to the site of the 911 attacks". Lady! When it comes to the religion and laws of these barbaric savages, you have NO IDEA what to expect from me! Murron  posted on  2011-09-12   14:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: Murron (#37) Mammy, don't you have barbaric savage blood in you? American Indian, that is. I sure do. Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-12   14:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: lucysidiotmommy, Thunderbird (#5) . Hey you gibbering LYING libTURD WHORE. HUMAN BODY PARTS and REMAINS were found on that site and in the original building, you foul disgusting libTURD whore. It sure as fuck IS part of the "GROUND ZERO" site, you miserable, LYING, despicable, simpering DNC talking points parrot whore. That so called "community center" CONTAINS a mosque. The reason that YOU libTURDS stink is so that even BLIND people can DESPISE YOU. YOU are beneath contempt. Whore. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-12   14:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: Thunderbird (#39) Sorry I pinged you by mistake. My bad. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-12   14:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: Murron (#37) . IMO THAT despicable bitch is no "lady", in ANY way. IMO. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-12   14:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: Ferret Mike (#27) I am stoic about what I lose from my garden that way. I would do the same thing the critters do were I one of them. There was peaceful coexistence between man and squirrel before the non-native eastern fox squirrel moved into town and took over. We are lucky if the squirrels leave anything for us humans. "...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-12   18:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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