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Title: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe
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American Thinker
URL Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog ... cript_to_hide_obama_gaffe.html
Published: Sep 10, 2011
Author: Timothy Birdnow
Post Date: 2011-09-10 13:15:56 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 17225
Comments: 46
Barack Obama has gone to Congress asking for more money to spend. The President, in a rambling and tedious exercise mixing blame with demands, made quite a few dubious statements in laying out the case for Congress to vote for the plan which as yet does not exist. Much like Obamacare, Congress must ultimately vote for the bill to know what is in it. At one point Mr. Obama made a major gaffe; he identified Abraham Lincoln as the founder of the Republican Party. Lincoln did not join the Republicans until 1856, over two years after the party was founded. The first Republican convention was held in Ripon, Wisconsin in 1854. Such a gaffe would have brought huge amounts of ridicule and derision on George W. Bush, but in the case of Obama the media yawned. Actually, they did more than yawn; government-funded PBS has altered the transcript of the President's speech, removing the offending comment. The New York Times transcript has the following quote: "We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our Union. Founder of the Republican Party. But in the middle of a civil war, he was also a leader who looked to the future -- a Republican President who mobilized government to build the Transcontinental Railroad -- (applause) -- launch the National Academy of Sciences, set up the first land grant colleges. (Applause.) And leaders of both parties have followed the example he set." But how does it appear in the PBS transcript? "We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our Union. But in the middle of a Civil War, he was also a leader who looked to the future - a Republican president who mobilized government to build the transcontinental railroad; launch the National Academy of Sciences; and set up the first land grant colleges. And leaders of both parties have followed the example he set." So PBS has purposely altered a transcript containing a major gaffe by the President. See a screen shot: Poster Comment: Maybe I need a corrupt media category.
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#10. To: A K A Stone (#0)
The above is from the RNC web site (http://www.gop.com/index.php/issues/heroes/abraham_lincoln-1/)
The above is from the RNC web site The cited anonymous fictional non-history is contradicted by the documented words of Abraham Lincoln and the actual history of the Republican Party. The first meeting to organize the Republican party was on March 20, 1854. Lincoln was still a Whig in 1855 and ran for election as a Whig. Abraham Lincoln declined to attend the Republican State convention in 1854, despite his name being placed on the Committee without his permission. He made it quite clear that he was not a member of "that party." Roy P. Basler, The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, Volume II, page 288: I. Codding, Esq, Springfield, Novr. 27. 1854 Dear Sir Your note of the 13th. requesting my attendance of the Republican State Central Committee, on the 17th. Inst. at Chicago, was, owing to my absence from home, received on the evening of that day (17th) only. While I have pen in hand allow me to say I have been perplexed some to understand why my name was placed on that committee. I was not consulted on the subject; nor was I apprized of the appointment, until I discovered it by accident two or three weeks afterwards. I suppose my opposition to the principle of slavery is as strong as that of any member of the Republican party; but I had also supposed that the extent to which I feel authorized to carry that opposition, practically; was not at all satisfactory to that party. The leading men who organized that party, were present, on the 4th. of Oct. at the discussion between Douglas and myself at Springfield, [2] and had full oppertunity to not misunderstand my position. Do I misunderstand theirs? Please write, and inform me. Yours truly A. LINCOLN--- Annotation [1] ALS copy, DLC-RTL. Ichabod Codding was a noted abolition and temperance lecturer who was one of the most active leaders in the new Republican party movement in Illinois, often referred to contemporaneously as "fusionists.'' The predominance of abolitionists among the fusionists gave Lincoln some uncertainty as to his willingness to join forces with them. At this point Lincoln was willing to co-operate with them, but refused to join them. [2] An anti-Nebraska Republican convention had been held at Springfield on October 4-5; Lincoln did not attend. Roy P. Basler, The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, Volume II, page 288: T. J. Henderson, Esq My dear Sir— It has come round that a whig may, by possibility, be elected to the U.S. Senate; and I want the chance of being the man. You are a member of the Legislature, and have a vote to give. Think it over, and see whether you can do better than to go for me. Write me, at all events; and let this be confidential. Yours truly A. LINCOLN— Roy P. Basler, The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, Volume III, First Lincoln-Douglas debate, Ottawa, Illinois, August 21, 1858, excerpt from pages 13-14: Now, about this story that Judge Douglas tells of Trumbull bargaining to sell out the old Democratic party, and Lincoln agreeing to sell out the old Whig party, I have the means of knowing about that; [laughter] Judge Douglas cannot have; and I know there is no substance to it whatever. [Applause.] Yet I have no doubt he is "conscientious" about it. [Laughter.] I know that after Mr. Lovejoy got into the Legislature that winter, he complained of me that I had told all the old Whigs in his district that the old Whig party was good enough for them, and some of them voted against him because I told them so. Now I have no means of totally disproving such charges as this which the Judge makes. A man cannot prove a negative, but he has a right to claim that when a man makes an affirmative charge, he must offer some proof to show the truth of what he says. I certainly cannot introduce testimony to show the negative about things, but I have a right to claim that if a man says he knows a thing, then he must show how he knows it. I always have a right to claim this, and it is not satisfactory to me that he may be "conscientious'' on the subject. [Cheers and Laughter.] Now gentlemen, I hate to waste my time on such things, but in regard to that general abolition tilt that Judge Douglas makes, when he says that I was engaged at that time in selling out and abolitionizing the old Whig party—I hope you will permit me to read a part of a printed speech that I made then at Peoria, which will show altogether a different view of the position I took in that contest of 1854. Roy P. Basler, The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, Volume IV, Letter to Samuel Haycraft, June 4, 1860, Excerpt from page 70: Michael Zak, Back to the Basics for the Republican Party, (a history of the Republican party) page 28:
Interesting. Thank You.
I just came across this. http://grandoldpartisan.typepad.com/ Grand Old Partisan is the old FR handle of Michael Zak, author of Back to the Basics for the Republican Party. Hey, Barack (and Mike Huckabee): Abraham Lincoln was NOT the "Founder of the Republican Party" [...] Barack Obama's speech-writers should learn more about American history. In truth, Abraham Lincoln was not the founder of the Republican Party. The first meeting of GOP was in March 1854 -- in Ripon, Wisconsin -- followed by the first organizational meeting of the GOP in July 1854 -- in Jackson, Michigan. Lincoln refused to attend the first attempt to establish the Illinois GOP in 1855, as he still considered himself a Whig. Not until May 1856 did Abraham Lincoln declare himself to be a Republican. That was TWO YEARS after the Founding of the Republican Party.
All this unnecessary detail leads nowhere. 0bama chose for a speech, the correct approach for a generalized method to convey historical significance: Abraham Lincoln was the first POTUS that lead the GOP.
Obama called Lincoln "Founder of the Republican Party." Had he claimed something factual, this thread would not exist. There is no more reason to support Obama's factual inaccuracy than to accept that John Quincy Adams was a Founding Father. The problem was that what PBS posted was not a transcript of the speech at all, but the advance copy of the text provided to the press. They have not corrected their error to reflect what Obama actually said. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec11/obamaspeech_09-08.html [...] We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our Union. Founder of the Republican Party. But in the middle of a civil war, he was also a leader who looked to the future -- a Republican President who mobilized government to build the Transcontinental Railroad -- (applause) -- launch the National Academy of Sciences, set up the first land grant colleges. (Applause.) And leaders of both parties have followed the example he set. Lincoln did not set up the first land grant colleges.
Hair splitting again...he most certainly did at the Federal level when he embraced the previously vetoed Morril Act...
#41. To: war (#35)
Hair splitting again...he most certainly did at the Federal level when he embraced the previously vetoed Morril Act... I guess it depends on what is meant by setting up a college. Land Grant colleges were existing institutions to which the State could provide funds for endowment, support and maintenance. The Morrill Act did not fund the building of any colleges or so much as an outhouse. Provision of any funds for the purchase, erection, preservation, or repair of any building was prohibited by the Act.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAbraham Lincoln helped establish the Republican Party with a speech denouncing an 1854 law, written by a Democrat Senator, that allowed slavery to expand into the western territories. Two years later, he co-founded the Illinois GOP. Lincoln was runner-up for the 1856 Republican vice presidential nomination and then became a Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate.
#12. To: go65, A K A Stone (#10)
Abraham Lincoln helped establish the Republican Party with a speech denouncing an 1854 law, written by a Democrat Senator, that allowed slavery to expand into the western territories. Two years later, he co-founded the Illinois GOP. Lincoln was runner-up for the 1856 Republican vice presidential nomination and then became a Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate.
(http://www.gop.com/index.php/issues/heroes/abraham_lincoln-1/)
(COPY) To Thomas J. Henderson [1]
Springfield, Novr. 27, 1854 MY FELLOW-CITIZENS: When a man hears himself somewhat misrepresented, it provokes him—at least, I find it so with myself; but when the misrepresentation becomes very gross and palpable, it is more apt to amuse him. [Laughter.] The first thing I see fit to notice, is the fact that Judge Douglas alleges, after running through the history of the old Democratic and the old Whig parties, that Judge Trumbull and myself made an arrangement in 1854, by which I was to have the place of Gen. Shields in the United States Senate, and Judge Trumbull was to have the place of Judge Douglas. Now all I have to say upon that subject is, that I think no man—not even Judge Douglas—can prove it, because it is not true. [Cheers.] I have no doubt he is "conscientious'' in saying it. [Laughter.] As to those resolutions that he took such a length of time to read, as being the platform of the Republican party in 1854, I say I never had anything to do with them, and I think Trumbull never had. [Renewed laughter.] Judge Douglas cannot show that either one of us ever did have any thing to do with them. I believe this is true about those resolutions: There was a call for a Convention to form a Republican party at Springfield, and I think that my friend Mr. Lovejoy, who is here upon this stand, had a hand in it. I think this is true, and I think if he will remember accurately, he will be able to recollect that he tried to get me into it, and I would not go in. [Cheers and laughter.] I believe it is also true, that I went away from Springfield when the Convention was in session, to attend court in Tazewell County. It is true they did place my name, though without authority, upon the Committee, and afterwards wrote me to attend the meeting of the Committee, but I refused to do so, and I never had anything to do with that organization. This is the plain truth about all that matter of the resolutions.
Like yourself I belonged to the whig party from its origin to it's close.
At first, Lincoln considered our Republican Party too strongly abolitionish to have much of a future in national politics. He also had to be sure the Republicans would adopt the Whigs' economic growth agenda. Still calling himself a Whig, Lincoln nearly won election to the U.S. Senate in 1855, coming six votes short in the Illinois legislature before throwing his support to the eventual winner, anti-slavery Democrat and future Republican, Lyman Trumbull.
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#22. To: A K A Stone (#15)
September 10, 2011
#23. To: nolu chan (#22)
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#29. To: buckeroo (#23)
All this unnecessary detail leads nowhere. 0bama chose for a speech, the correct approach for a generalized method to convey historical significance: Abraham Lincoln was the first POTUS that lead the GOP.
EDITOR'S NOTE: The original transcript provided on this page, as was noted, reflected the president's remarks as prepared for delivery and released by the White House. This transcript has been updated to reflect the remarks as delivered and released by the White House.
#35. To: nolu chan (#29)
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Lincoln did not set up the first land grant colleges.
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