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Title: The real debate: Watch the swing states, not the national polls (5 PDT, 8 EDT - Reagan Library)
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New Jersey On-Line
URL Source: http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshin ... eal_debate_watch_the_swin.html
Published: Sep 7, 2011
Author: Paul Mulshine/The Star Ledger
Post Date: 2011-09-07 19:30:53 by Hondo68
Keywords: seven super-swing states, magic number of 270 electoral, fight is for swing states
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Comments: 10
Forget all the nonsense about who's leading in the various national polls. Start thinking about who could win the swing states. That's pollster Larry Sabato's analysis in the Wall Street Journal. Here's the key paragraph: "Republicans therefore are a lock or lead in 24 states for 206 electoral votes, and Democrats have or lead in 19 states for 247 electoral votes. That's why seven super-swing states with 85 electors will determine which party gets to the magic number of 270 electoral votes: Colorado (9), Florida (29), Iowa (6), Nevada (6), New Hampshire (4), Ohio (18) and Virginia (13)." Those who follow national polls like to look at popular-vote totals, which are fun but not dispositive. Sabato's got a much better angle of attack. As he notes, most of the red states will go to whatever Republican is nominated. Most of the blue states will go Democratic. The fight is for those swing states. Here's where it gets interesting. I have long argued that liberal journalists should not be covering contests among conservatives, and this shows why. Consider the way the mainstream media played the Iowa Straw Poll results. As I and others have noted, the outcome was a statistical tie between Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul. Yet the media ignored Paul and built up Bachmann beyond all reason. Now imagine you're a Democratic-leaning reporter who wants to see Obama re- elected. How better to accomplish that goal than by promoting a Republican who's likely to lose in those swing states? It's hard to imagine Bachmann winning in those states. Meanwhile Paul lines up better than Bachmann against President Obama in the national polls you can see here. But most of the numbers in those polls are meaningless for determining how the swing states will turn out. That polling hasn't been done yet. But Paul's philosophy of limited government and liberty is likely to go over much better in the seven states Sabato lists than is Bachmann's end-times apocalyptic approach to the Mideast and her economic illiteracy at home. Bachmann looks like a candidate tailor-made to win the red states and not much else. So does Rick Perry, another big favorite of the mainstream media, though in Perry's case he's leading some polls and can't be ignored. I'm not a big Mitt Romney fan, but I can see why so many mainstream Republicans like him. He's got a really good chance in those swing states. When you watch that debate tonight, look for where Perry ends up on key issues. On foreign policy questions as on economic questions, Paul has been providing the debating points - though you'd never get the TV talking heads to admit it. His questions about monetary policy that were derided as nutty back in 2008 are now mainstream in the GOP. And on foreign policy, it's the candidates backing the failed neoconservativism of the Bush years who are now stuck defending Obama's continuation of those policies. So the pressure's on Perry to state where he stands. That should be fun. As for how he'd do in the swing states if he got the nomination, that might not be so pleasant to watch.
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Michele Bachmann: the liberals would love to see her compete in the swing states.
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
perry stands for... perry.
To:Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro From: Capitalist Eric Message: You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD. Too damn bad few will watch this freakshow tonight as I'm sure it will be great entertainment but only on MSNBC. Up against Big Brother you know. {{{smirk}}}
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'! I'm trying to watch it on the web, but my connection is too shaky.
Ron Paul said he doesn't want machine guns on the border. I disagree with him on that.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
his comment about opposing a border fence because it could be used to keep americans in was interesting.
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...and 100% correct and is an argument that I have used and stand by...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
I saw that comment last night. I watched some of the debate but I didn't go out of my way to do so - it just worked out that way. Bachmann had big hair like a waitress in a greasy spoon restaurant.
when I first saw her i thought she was wearing a plastic wig.
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She should go on Hannity and imply that she would blow him...ala Kneepad Katey harris...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
So do I. I'd like to see our entire southern border become the largest military base in the nation.
#2. To: hondo68 (#0)
#3. To: Brian S (#2)
#4. To: We The People, *Ron Paul for President* (#3)
trying to watch it on the web, but my connection is too shaky.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#5. To: hondo68 (#4)
Ron Paul said he doesn't want machine guns on the border. I disagree with him on that.
#6. To: go65 (#5)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#7. To: go65 (#5)
#8. To: Fred Mertz (#7)
I saw that comment last night. I watched some of the debate but I didn't go out of my way to do so - it just worked out that way. Bachmann had big hair like a waitress in a greasy spoon restaurant.
#9. To: go65 (#8)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#10. To: hondo68 (#4)
Ron Paul said he doesn't want machine guns on the border. I disagree with him on that.
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