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Title: Fox's Trumped Up Attack On Hoffa Just Latest Example Of Their Selective Outrage
Source: Media Matters
URL Source: http://mediamatters.org/research/201109060009
Published: Sep 6, 2011
Author: Media Matters
Post Date: 2011-09-06 14:39:13 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 28852
Comments: 59

Fox has repeatedly attacked Teamsters president James Hoffa's statement that union members should "take these son of a bitches out" at a Labor Day rally, suggesting his comments constituted "a call for violence [toward] peaceful tea party members." But Hoffa was not endorsing violence -- he was urging his audience to remove elected officials by voting; furthermore, Fox has a history downplaying explicit threats or violent rhetoric when they are directed at Democrats and progressives.

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Fox Attacks Hoffa's Comments As "A Call For Violence"

Fox & Friends Attack Hoffa's Comments, Hype Claim That They "Amount To A Call For Violence On Peaceful Tea Party Members." On the September 6 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, after airing video of James Hoffa's remarks at a rally in Detroit, MI, the three co-hosts discussed the comments and suggested Hoffa was calling for violence against tea party members:

GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): Wait a minute, "take them out." That has a certain connotation that is not good news for members of the tea party.

BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): Right. If you're in the UFC or the WWE, it makes perfect sense.

STEVE DOOCY (co-host): Sure.

KILMEADE: Yes, it does. Knock them out.

DOOCY: Or take out for dinner, that would be great. But that's not what he's talking about.

KILMEADE: And a bit of a surprise. And this is something that clearly goes against what the president said to bring an era of decorum to the debate and not make it so personal. Remember? He said that about a year ago, after the tragic shooting of Gabby Giffords.

DOOCY: Well, maybe this guy didn't hear. Neither did Maxine Waters.

[...]


DOOCY: And regarding the tea party, the Tea Party Express, the head, Amy Kramer, said, "Hoffa's remarks are inexcusable and amount for a call for violence on peaceful tea party members which include many Teamster members." Remember, there are a lot of members of the teamsters union that are also tea party members. [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 9/6/11]

Fox Guest Blakeman Calls Comments "Thuggery At Its Best," Suggests "Legs Are Going To Get Broken, Somebody's Going To Disappear." On the September 5 edition of Fox News' America Live, an edited version of Hoffa's remarks was aired. Host Megyn Kelly then asked guest and Republican consultant Brad Blakeman to comment on the cropped video. Blakeman called the comments "thuggery at its best," adding, "It's what unions are good at." Blakeman also said the comments were "the kind of remarks you'd expect out of Tony Soprano" and that "when a union president says 'let's take these son of a bitches out,' it usually means someone's legs are going to get broken, somebody's going to disappear." [Fox News, America Live, 9/5/11, via Media Matters]

But Hoffa Urged Audience To Vote Out Elected Officials -- Not Resort To Violence

Hoffa Told Audience: "Everybody Here's Got To Vote ... Let's Take These Son Of A Bitches Out." In his full comments, Hoffa was urging his audience to vote out Republican members of Congress -- not inciting violence. As the unedited version of Hoffa's comments which aired on Fox & Friends' showed, Hoffa said:

HOFFA (video): We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face, the war on workers. And you see it everywhere -- it is the tea party. And you know, there's only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is, we like a good fight. And you know what? They got a war, they got a war with us. And there's only going to be one winner.

[cut]

President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march.

[cut]

Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and we keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a [bitches] out and give America back to America where we belong. Thank you very much! Thank you! Thank you. [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 9/6/11; Media Matters, 9/5/11]

Fox Has Consistently Downplayed Violent Rhetoric And Threats Directed At Democrats, Progressives

Hannity: "So Do You Think That This Is Just An Effort To Smear Conservatives?" During the March 24, 2010, edition of his Fox News show, Sean Hannity discussed threats made to Democratic lawmakers during debate over health care reform. Hannity said that Democrats "are trying to make a big deal over the weekend and this is denied by a lot of people. I have not seen the videotape that confirms this yet. If anyone has it, send it to me. I want to see it, of racial slurs, anti-gay slurs being made at the Tea Party movement. Do we have any evidence that corroborates this at all?" Later, he asked: "So do you think that this is just an effort to smear conservatives? Is this a concerted effort to say, you know what? They are all a bunch of racists; they're all a bunch of homophobes?" [Fox News, Hannity3/24/10 via Media Matters]

Doocy: "So Why Are People Angry? Maybe Because They Didn't Want This [Health Care] Bill?" On the March 25, 2010, edition of Fox & Friends, while teasing a segment about threats against Democrats, Doocy said: "Meanwhile, some House Democrats getting extra security after a series of death threats and even a little vandalism over their health care votes. So why are people angry? Well, maybe because they didn't want this [health care] bill?" [Fox News, Fox & Friends3/25/10  via Media Matters]

Carlson Agrees It's "Disappointing" That Democrats Are Making Threats So Public And Says "They Should Just Stop Discussing It All Together." After Doocy said that Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) "thinks the Democrat lawmakers are feeding the public's frenzy over the threats by discussing them so openly in the media," Fox & Friends co-host Gretchen Carlson said: "It's such a political thing, though, guys. I think it would be happening on the other side of the fence, too, that maybe the other political party would try to take advantage of a situation, and that's disappointing. I think it's disappointing -- they should just stop discussing it all together. Just agree on the fact that it's disappointing behavior, no matter who's doing it." Later, after Kilmeade said, "You hurt your own cause when you have racial epithets or have homophobic phrases," Carlson stated, "It ruins it for everybody, just like the kid who acts up at the birthday party." [Fox News, Fox & Friends3/25/10 via Media Matters]

Fox

& Friends Airs Viewer Emails Comparing Threats Against Democrats To American Revolution, William Ayers. Later on the March 25, 2010 edition of Fox & Friends, after Carlson said, "The most important thing is what you think about all of this, because you are the ones that are going to go to the polls eventually," Fox & Friends aired several emails from viewers that condemned the threats but also appeared to defend violent actions. One email claimed that Democrats are using the threats "to gain sympathy. Like Rahm Emanuel said, 'you never waste a crisis.'" Another read: "[W]hat did they expect when they basically stole from the American people. What do they think 1776 was about & wasn't there some violence back then?" A third email said: "I don't like violence & it is wrong. Having said that, why should Democrats be surprised? Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground bombed the Pentagon & now he is a 'respected' speaker of the left. Why should Democrats expect anything different?"

Excerpts from the emails:

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[Fox News, Fox & Friends3/25/10 via Media Matters]

Cupp: Democrats "Want Us To Feel Sorry For Them That They've Gotten A Couple Of ... Angry Voicemails." During the March 24, 2010, edition of Hannity, Fox News contributor S.E. Cupp said, "You know, Democrats who did this -- who sort of rammed this [health care bill] down our throats regardless of the fact that it actually won't save us any money, it's going to bankrupt us and the American people didn't want it -- want us to feel sorry for them that they've gotten a couple of angry, you know, voicemails. They should read my e-mail. You know, what did they expect? No one condones threats. No one condones the violence, but I'm glad people are angry. I hope they stay angry." [Fox News, Hannity3/24/10 via Media Matters]

Fox Nation: "Are Threats Really Elevated, Or Are Dems Playing Politics?" In March 2010, Fox Nation displayed a picture of several Democratic congressmen alongside the headline, "Are Threats Really Elevated, or Are Dems Playing Politics?" The headline linked to a NewsBusters post that claimed there were "no specific examples of alleged threats of violence [against Democrats] cited" and that the media and politicians are "trying to construct a meme of conservative violence as we run up to the 2010 elections." From Fox Nation:

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[Fox Nation, 3/24/10 via Media Matters]

Charles Krauthammer: "I'm Sure A Lot Of This Is Trumped Up. ... You Are Always Going To Have A Kook And A Nut Here And There." On the March 24, 2010, edition of Fox News' Special Report, Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer said of the threats, "I'm sure a lot of this is trumped up the way of the unruliness of some of the crowd on the day of the voting in the House was trumped up. You are always going to have a kook and a nut here and there. It's being used by supporters of Obamacare to tar opponents with, you know, threats, violence, being un-American in general. I think it ought to be denounced, as the Republicans have. It should be. But it's not reflective of those who oppose the bill." [Fox News, Special Report3/24/10 via Media Matters]

Trotta: "The Left Wing Virtually Invented Violent Dissent" And The Press Is "Wildly Exaggerating And Embroidering" Threats To Members Of Congress. On the March 27, 2010, edition of Fox News' America's News HQ, Fox News contributor Liz Trotta said: "The left wing virtually invented violent dissent going all the way back to the 1960s. So to hear everybody wildly exaggerating and embroidering what's happened in Washington is really rather laughable. And the media has been suckered into it." [Fox News, America's News HQ, 3/27/10 via Media Matters]

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Oh please.

Mob hit men got the order against Hoffa's dad -- 'TAKE HIM OUT'. It wasn't a suggestion to vote Hoffa out of his position.

These words mean something and Hoffa Junior knows it.

Considering who it came from, this is most vile and ugly threat of violence we've seen from a prominent person in the political sphere in the U.S. for many years.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-06   14:46:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#1)

He thinks people should start killing Republican politicians? Is that what are you saying? You really believe that?

NewsJunky  posted on  2011-09-06   15:07:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: NewsJunky (#5)

He thinks people should start killing Republican politicians? Is that what are you saying? You really believe that?

Do you honestly believe that 70 year old women protesting against big government at Tea Party rallies are dangerous terrorists?

This is what the Democrat Party wants you to believe.

Hoffa's dad was affiliated with the Mob. His dad was killed by the mob. Teamsters have a history of violence.

Who is more likely to commit violence against their opponents -- granny or Hoffa's union goons?

The answer is very clear to me.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-06   15:17:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: jwpegler (#9)

Do you honestly believe that 70 year old women protesting against big government at Tea Party rallies are dangerous terrorists?

war  posted on  2011-09-06   15:33:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war, jwpegler (#14)

Nice try war, but that wasn't a 70 year old woman in that pathetic pic you posted! ~ Murron

Media Freaks Out After Man Filmed Carrying Legal Firearm Outside Obamacare Event

David Edwards and Daniel Tencer, Raw Story

Tuesday, August 11, 2009

EXCERPTS:

The MSNBC anchors in the clip are aghast that a mere slave – and not a super-human police officer – might be allowed to carry a firearm in public, despite the fact that New Hampshire is an open carry state – it is perfectly legal to carry a loaded firearm in public without the need for a permit.

The MSNBC host Carlos Watson - who yesterday bizarrely claimed that anti-Obamacare protesters were using the political term “socialist” as a secret code for the n-word, even calls on lawyers to overturn the right to open carry on the spot merely because Lord Obama is coming to town

President Obama traveled to Portsmouth, New Hampshire Tuesday for what many feared could be a rowdy ‘town hall-style’ meeting at a time when some foes of his healthcare overhaul have shouted down lawmakers holding similar events around the country. But no such disruptions occurred at the event.

Earlier, MSNBC’s Ron Allen reported that cameras filmed a protester with a handgun strapped to his leg the meeting before Obama arrived. The man was seen carrying a sign saying “It’s time to water the tree of liberty.”

The man’s “tree of liberty” sign is a reference to Thomas Jefferson, who said “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Allen says the Portsmouth police chief told him the man’s gun is legal, because he is on private property — he is on the grounds of a nearby church. Police say his gun is registered and he can keep it on him as long as it is not concealed.

SOURCE

Murron  posted on  2011-09-06   15:53:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Murron (#23)

Did you have a point that might be of interest, Mammy?

war  posted on  2011-09-06   16:37:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war, jwpegler (#30)

jwpegler: "Do you honestly believe that 70 year old women protesting against big government at Tea Party rallies are dangerous terrorists?"

Did you have a point that might be of interest, Mammy?

Sure! In your usual sleezy way, you attempted to use the pic you posted as proof old women were carrying weapons at townhall meetings/and/or/teaparty rallies.

I just posted the story that went with the pic you posted.

Murron  posted on  2011-09-06   16:46:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Murron (#33)

Do you believe that the 70 year old women at Hoffa's rally who were told to vote to take the bastards out mistook that as an order to shoot to kill?

war  posted on  2011-09-07   7:47:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#39)

Do you believe that the 70 year old women at Hoffa's rally who were told to vote to take the bastards out mistook that as an order to shoot to kill?

war, I believe there are sick people in all the parties who would take these words literally and act on them, I just don't think it's right to smear the intire party, any party, unless there is proof otherwise.

Murron  posted on  2011-09-07   10:16:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Murron (#40)

I believe there are sick people in all the parties who would take these words literally and act on them

True - but the sick people on the Left are better than the sick people on the Right because the sick people on the Left advance the idea that the State Is Supreme while the sick people on the Right tend to want to take out those who want to limit freedoms and liberties, misguided though they be. Anything that advances the cause of statism is always good and anything that limits the cause of statism is always bad.

Do you understand now? /twilight zone music

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-07   10:24:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#43)

Which group continually promotes the ultimate powers of the state which is in policing and war making?

It most certainly is not the Left.

war  posted on  2011-09-07   10:25:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#45. To: war (#44)

Which group continually promotes the ultimate powers of the state which is in policing and war making?

It most certainly is not the Left.

I'm sure learning a lot today.

First I learned that LBJ was a conservative. Now I find out that Obama and the democrats (who had two years unrestricted control of all 3 branches, so they could have ended or at least severely cut back "Bush's wars") aren't "of the Left"

Amazing!

Get Outta Dodge!  posted on  2011-09-07 10:31:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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