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Title: Vietnam Veterans of America et al v CIA et al, U.S. Dist Court (CAND) re Human Experimentation
Source: U.S. District Court, California Northern District
URL Source: [None]
Published: Sep 4, 2011
Author: nolu chan
Post Date: 2011-09-04 17:32:17 by nolu chan
Keywords: Vietnam Veterans of America, CIA, Human Experiment
Views: 3916
Comments: 8

Vietnam Veterans of America et al v CIA et al, U.S. Dist Court (CAND) re Human Experimentation

by nolu chan
September 4, 2011

Doc #53 of 12/17/2009, Introduction asserts, "This action chronicles a chilling tale of human experimentation, covert military operations, and heretofore unchecked abuses of power by our own government."

The DOCKET REPORT lists all the named parties, to include:

  • Michael Hayden, Director of the CIA
  • Robert Gates, Secretary of Defense
  • Pete Green, Secretary of the Army
  • Leon Panetta, Director of the CIA
  • Eric H. Holder, Jr., Attorney General of the U.S.
  • Eric K. Shinseki
  • United States of America
  • U.S. Dept of Veterans Affairs
  • U.S. Dept of Defense
  • Central Intelligence Agency

Doc #281 of 09/02/2009 contains, ""the Court DENIES the CIA's motion for judgment of the pleadings (Docket No. 245)"

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DOCKET REPORT - Vietnam Veterans of America v CIA, CAND 4-09cv00037-CW

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Doc 53 - Vietnam Veterans of America v CIA, CAND 4-09cv00037-CW (12-17-2009), SECOND AMENDED COMPLAINT With...

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Doc 281 - Vietnam Veterans of America v CIA, CAND 4-09cv00037-CW (09-02-2011) ORDER Denying Def Motion for ...

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-04   17:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nolu chan (#0)

Vietnam Veterans of America et al v CIA et al, U.S. Dist Court (CAND) re Human Experimentation

I had a relative who used to have to report to the VA every year for tests from a drugs 'mistakenly' given him while stationed at Dugway after he came back from Vietnam.

He died at the age of 55 a few years back after suddenly developing diabetes AND leukemia.

He was a liberal as most Vietnam vets of that era were, so I'm sure most here on this site would be happy about his early demise.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-05   1:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu chan (#0)

Interesting. Why would people in the current government be sued? Like Panetta and Gates? Are the plaintiffs claiming that they are still withholding some kind of information?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-05   9:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: nolu chan (#1)

Great decision on Judge CLAUDIA WILKEN's part.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-05   9:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mininggold (#2)

I don't know any liberal viet nam vets. They are all conservatives.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-05   9:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Why would people in the current government be sued? Like Panetta and Gates?

It is just because they are the current titular heads of a defendant agency. They are not named personally but solely in their official capacity.

Extracts from Doc #53, the Second Amended Complaint:

93. Defendant LEON PANETTA, is the current Director of the CIA, and is named solely in his official capacity.

95. Defendant DR. ROBERT M. GATES is the current Secretary of Defense, and is named solely in his official capacity.

97. Defendant PETE GEREN is the current United States Secretary of the Army, and is named solely in his official capacity.

98. Defendant ERIC H. HOLDER, JR. is the current Attorney General of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and is named solely in his official capacity, and in connection with the Attorney General’s assumption of responsibility to notify the victims of biological and chemical weapons tests.

99. The inclusion of each defendant named herein is necessary to afford complete relief, and to avoid a multiplicity of actions and the possibility of inconsistent results.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-05   18:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#6)

Ok. Thank you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-05   18:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nolu chan (#6)

Sorry I called you a lefty in the past. Sorry if I ever said anything else that was not fair. You're ok in my book and a welcome addition to the site.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-05   18:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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