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Title: Man [ 24 y-o] Dies From Toothache, Couldn't Afford Meds
Source: ABC News
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/insura ... es-toothache/story?id=14438171
Published: Sep 2, 2011
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2011-09-02 22:47:42 by Fred Mertz
Keywords: None
Views: 18417
Comments: 42

A 24-year-old Cincinnati father died from a tooth infection this week because he couldn't afford his medication, offering a sobering reminder of the importance of oral health and the number of people without access to dental or health care.

According to NBC affiliate WLWT, Kyle Willis' wisdom tooth started hurting two weeks ago. When dentists told him it needed to be pulled, he decided to forgo the procedure, because he was unemployed and had no health insurance.

When his face started swelling and his head began to ache, Willis went to the emergency room, where he received prescriptions for antibiotics and pain medications. Willis couldn't afford both, so he chose the pain medications.

The tooth infection spread, causing his brain to swell. He died Tuesday.

Calls to Willis' family were not immediately returned. University Hospital in Cincinnati, where Willis was admitted, did not comment, citing federal privacy laws.

"People don't realize that dental disease can cause serious illness," said Dr. Irvin Silverstein, a dentist at the University of California at San Diego. "The problems are not just cosmetic. Many people die from dental disease."

Willis' story is not unique. In 2007, 12-year-old Deamonte Driver also died when a tooth infection spread to his brain. The Maryland boy underwent two operations and six weeks of hospital care, totaling $250,000. Doctors said a routine $80 tooth extraction could have saved his life. His family was uninsured and had recently lost its Medicaid benefits, keeping Deamonte from having dental surgery.

"When people are unemployed or don't have insurance, where do they go? What do they do?" Silverstein said. "People end up dying, and these are the most treatable, preventable diseases in the world."

Getting access to dental care is particularly tough for low-income adults and children, and it's getting tougher as the economy worsens. In April, the Kaiser Family Foundation reported that 33 percent of people surveyed skipped dental care or dental checkups because they couldn't afford them. A 2003 report by the U.S. Surgeon General found that 108 million Americans had no dental insurance, nearly 2.5 times the number who had no health insurance.

Trips to the dentist aren't the only expenses hard-up Americans are skipping. An August report by the Commonwealth Fund found that 72 percent of people who lost their health insurance when they lost their jobs said they skipped needed health care or did not fill prescriptions because of cost.

"People want to believe there's a safety net that catches all of these people, and there isn't," said Dr. Glenn Stream, president-elect of the American Academy of Family Physicians. He noted that it is often young men who are the most likely to lack health coverage.

Dr. Jim Jirjis, director of general internal medicine at Vanderbilt University, said people, like Willis, without access to care often die of conditions that were much more common decades ago.

"He [Willis] might as well have been living in 1927," Jirjis said. "All of the advances we've made in medicine today and are proud of, for people who don't have coverage, you might as well never have developed those."

There are a number of free dental clinics in operation around the country, where dentists volunteer to provide care to those without health insurance. But even if Willis had access to a free dental clinic, Stream said he still may not have been able to get the care he needed for his infection. "The wait is often months at these clinics, and this young man died within two weeks of his problem," Stream said.

Silverstein operates three free dental clinics in the San Diego area. "We're overwhelmed right now," he said. "We can't take any new patients."


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#2. To: BorisY (#1)

“We have got to make a difference with our health care,” she said.

The taxpayer would've been better off paying for dental care than a trip to the local er and later, the ambulance ride to the hospital along with whatever care he got before he died. Certainly his six year old daughter would've been better off.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-03   0:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#2)

The taxpayer would've been better off paying for dental care than a trip to the local er and later, the ambulance ride to the hospital along with whatever care he got before he died. Certainly his six year old daughter would've been better off.

Why?

If the guy was so stupid to deny his own pain what reasons exist to persuade American taxpayers to pay for anything?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   0:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

If the guy was so stupid to deny his own pain what reasons exist to persuade American taxpayers to pay for anything?

He didn't.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-03   0:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#4)

He didn't deny his own pain? How is that?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   0:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#5)

He didn't deny his own pain? How is that?

He went to the er and did get the pain medication, $3.00. He wasn't able to pay for the antibiotic, $26.00.

After the infection spread to his brain his thinking may have been affected.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-03   1:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom (#6)

You are misdirected about modern health care. From the article:

According to NBC affiliate WLWT, Kyle Willis' wisdom tooth started hurting two weeks ago. When dentists told him it needed to be pulled, he decided to forgo the procedure, because he was unemployed and had no health insurance.

It was a 85 buck professional procedure. He could have used his good looks to have that same procedure performed.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   1:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#7)

It was a 85 buck professional procedure. He could have used his good looks to have that same procedure performed.

If you say so.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-03   1:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#8)

He could have asked his dentist for a contract of obligation about any procedure he agreed to have performed. He could have watered plants, clean the parking lot, sit on the highway advertising with a sign suggesting "BEST DENTIST UNDER THE SUN" or may other other venues.

And yeah, I SAY SO. His problem is not a state problem.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   1:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#2)

University Hospital spokeswoman Diana Lara said she couldn’t comment on Willis’ case because of federal privacy laws. Anyone with dental problems can receive treatment at the Dental Center at University Hospital, though, she said.

It’s unclear whether Willis knew about the dental center.

“The Dental Center is here to provide care for those who are insured, underinsured and who have no insurance,” Lara said. “No one has to go without care when they are experiencing any sort of pain. We’re here for that reason.”

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20110901/NEWS01/109020346/Bootsy-Collins- nephew-dies-after-tooth-infection

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-09-03   2:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fred Mertz (#0) (Edited)

But even if Willis had access to a free dental clinic, Stream said he still may not have been able to get the care he needed for his infection.

Plenty of discount & free meds for the poor in Cincinnati, Mr. Willis deserves a Darwin Award for not finding them. And Ms. Gann (the author of the article, not "staff", Ethel) is obviously just another Party Central Information Ministry shill with an agenda.

Nonprofit pharmacy hits $1 million in free prescriptions

HealthWarehouse.com Partners with HCAN to Assist Underserved Cincinnati Residents With Medications

Resources and programs that provide assistance

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-09-03   6:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#9)

He could have asked his dentist for a contract of obligation about any procedure he agreed to have performed. He could have watered plants, clean the parking lot, sit on the highway advertising with a sign suggesting "BEST DENTIST UNDER THE SUN" or may other other venues.

Or his dentist could have suggested that, but didn't.

And yeah, I SAY SO. His problem is not a state problem.

"Governments can err, Presidents do make mistakes, but the immortal Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted in different scales.

Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference." FDR

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-03   6:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Happy Quanzaa (#11)

Plenty of discount & free meds for the poor in Cincinnati, Mr. Willis deserves a Darwin Award for not finding them.

It the man was accustomed to working and taking care of himself, he might not have had any experience that would lead him to believe that medications were available at no cost.

"Nothing is impossible to the man who doesn't have to do it."

The first pharmacy on your list is only open three days a week and a few hours on Saturday. In addition, the "patient" has to go through a certification process.

The second pharmacy is mail order.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-03   7:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Happy Quanzaa (#11)

Nonprofit pharmacy hits $1 million in free prescriptions

This pharmacy is partially funded with tax dollars

The indigent care levy is intended to help our neighbors who can't afford to pay for their health care. The Charitable Pharmacy not only aligns with the mission of the levy, it has proven that it's an incredible return on investment for the tax payer.

news.cincinnati.com/artic...an-pays-itself-prevention

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-03   7:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#12)

Or his dentist could have suggested that, but didn't.

Thank you for acknowledging that the "tooth ache" patient was too stupid to have recommended treatment. Inferring the issues are EVERYONE ELSE's problem shows how really STUPID this guy was and PROVES that his life wasn't worth a plug nickel anyway.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   9:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#15)

Thank you for acknowledging that the "tooth ache" patient was too stupid to have recommended treatment. Inferring the issues are EVERYONE ELSE's problem shows how really STUPID this guy was and PROVES that his life wasn't worth a plug nickel anyway.

So you now get to decide from a brief description in an article whose life has value and whose life doesn't. And it seems to be based on it's value to a corporation.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-03   10:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#9)

And yeah, I SAY SO. His problem is not a state problem.

True, true, true............

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-09-03   10:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mininggold (#16)

So you now get to decide from a brief description in an article whose life has value and whose life doesn't. And it seems to be based on it's value to a corporation.

Perhaps he has a seat on Sarah Palin's imagined death panel.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-03   11:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#18)

Perhaps he has a seat on Sarah Palin's imagined death panel.

From his posting history I'm sure he's already secured himself a chairmanship.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-03   11:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#16)

So you now get to decide from a brief description in an article whose life has value and whose life doesn't.

Not at all. The patient took his own life by not adhering to professional advice.

And it seems to be based on it's value to a corporation.

The patient was too stupid to be of any value to society anyway. Hasta la vista, baby.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   11:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo (#20)

The patient was too stupid to be of any value to society anyway. Hasta la vista, baby.

I guess every cow has to have a minimum value in order to justify one's life to you elitists.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-03   12:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Fred Mertz (#0) (Edited)

I knew someone who fell down the stairs, broke her neck, and died.

I guess we should get the government to install elevators in all 2 story houses.

If this guy had a toothache and couldn't afford medication, he should have gotten a pair of pliers and pulled his tooth out. That is what they used to do in this country. It's still what they do in most countries.

I am so sick and tired of these worthless whiny people who don't have the wherewithal to take care of themselves. Propping them up with government assistance is harming the gene pool and endangering our species


There two types of leftists -- idiots and tyrants. The idiots believe that big government has the answers. The tyrants exploit those beliefs to maintain power and control. -- jwpegler

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-03   12:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: jwpegler (#22) (Edited)

I am so sick and tired of these worthless whiny people who don't have the wherewithal to take care of themselves. Propping them up with government assistance is harming the gene pool and endangering our species

You so called conservatives crack me up when you post your collectivist ideology. You show you have no real use for any law abiding, individualist who doesn't conform to your standards.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-03   12:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#21)

I guess every cow has to have a minimum value in order to justify one's life to you elitists.

Not at all. With some 7 BILLION people on the planet, it is a good idea that some decide to take their own lives before using more natural resources and wasting our time about their own concerns.

In a true sense, the patient took the honourable way out of here knowing that he was too stupid to contribute anything of value towards himself, family, friends and business associates much less to the world around us.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   12:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#24)

In a true sense, the patient took the honourable way out of here knowing that he was too stupid to contribute anything of value towards himself, family, friends and business associates much less to the world around us.

The human race crawled out of caves, invented tools, created civilization, and developed an advanced technological society.

At every step of the way, there were people who didn't have what it took to compete.

Natural selection was an important process of weeding them out of the gene pool to strengthen the human race and hasten our progress.

But now, we hand these people cash, food stamps, housing, healthcare... In the long run, this is going to hurt us.

That's not to say that we shouldn't be charitable. But most charities require something in return for their assistance -- get off the bottle, get a job, take care of your family, etc. Government programs on the other hand allow these parasites to lay around and make babies. Then we pay for the babies, who when they get older wind up on the government dole too.

The left has created a sick society over the last 100 years. Everything the left has done needs to be dismantled.


There two types of leftists -- idiots and tyrants. The idiots believe that big government has the answers. The tyrants exploit those beliefs to maintain power and control. -- jwpegler

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-03   12:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#24)

Not at all. With some 7 BILLION people on the planet, it is a good idea that some decide to take their own lives before using more natural resources and wasting our time about their own concerns.

One shouldn't be afraid to take one's own advice. In some way everyone qualifies as a natural resource and time waster of the precious collective.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-03   13:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mininggold (#26)

Only the master race is fit for reproduction!

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-03   13:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mininggold (#26)

In some way everyone qualifies as a natural resource and time waster of the precious collective.

I am glad Kyle chose to be maggot fodder. It was a good decision and perhaps his only personal contribution to humanity.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   13:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#27)

Only the master race is fit for reproduction!

Eugenics seems to be alive and well.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-03   13:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#28) (Edited)

I am glad Kyle chose to be maggot fodder. It was a good decision and perhaps his only personal contribution to humanity.

I personally think those who have to buy their mates are time and resource wasters, making them only fit for the shredder in your world.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-03   13:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mininggold (#30)

I personally think those who have to buy their mates are time and resource wasters, making them only fit for the shredder in your world.

In the case of Kyle, what do you think is significant or relevant for yourself?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   13:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#31) (Edited)

In the case of Kyle, what do you think is significant or relevant for yourself?

So tell me what facts does the article tell the reader about Kyle other than he's ignorant about microbiology and A and P, which is hardly unique, a 24 year old father and from Cincinnati.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-03   14:17:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#32)

Kyle is was plain STUPID. At 24 years old he denied professional advice which lead to his personal decision to kill himself.

Is there something wrong, here? Nope. It was a personal decision on his part.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   14:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeroo (#33)

Kyle is was plain STUPID. At 24 years old he denied professional advice which lead to his personal decision to kill himself.

Is there something wrong, here? Nope. It was a personal decision on his part.

24 year olds all tend to be stupid. Why do you think they make such good soldiers? It's because they believe they are invincible.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-03   14:46:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#34)

For a moment, just this brief instant and on this thread, what would you do as the last person on the face of this planet? Would you get on your hands&knees begging for a lasting social structure to save your hide? Or would you make every attempt to survive through all the power of your own being?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-03   15:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeroo (#33)

Kyle is was plain STUPID. At 24 years old he denied professional advice which lead to his personal decision to kill himself.

Is there something wrong, here? Nope. It was a personal decision on his part.

They're just upset that another potential Leftard (leech) voter has bit the dust....

When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

CZ82  posted on  2011-09-03   16:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeroo (#35)

For a moment, just this brief instant and on this thread, what would you do as the last person on the face of this planet? Would you get on your hands&knees begging for a lasting social structure to save your hide? Or would you make every attempt to survive through all the power of your own being?

Please reread your own post as it makes absolutely no sense.

mininggold  posted on  2011-09-04   15:21:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: jwpegler (#22)

If this guy had a toothache and couldn't afford medication, he should have gotten a pair of pliers and pulled his tooth out. That is what they used to do in this country.

I now live in Kentucky and I know several folks who've pulled their own teeth.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-09-04   17:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Fred Mertz (#38) (Edited)

I've traveled to many third world countries and I know a whole bunch of people who have pulled their own teeth, or had a family member do it for them.

My dad grew up in the Great Depression and his father pulled some of my dad's teeth.

It is a better alternative than dying at 24 years old.


The hippies wanted peace and love. We wanted Ferraris, blondes and switchblades. -- Alice Cooper

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-04   17:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: jwpegler (#39)

My dad grew up in the Great Depression and his father pulled some of my dad's teeth.

It is a better alternative than dying at 24 years old.

Getting an infected tooth pulled without a course of antibiotics still leaves one at risk of the infection spreading to the brain.

"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly

lucysmom  posted on  2011-09-04   19:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: CZ82 (#36)

They're just upset that another potential Leftard (leech) voter has bit the dust....

That shouldn't bother them, the dead ones always show up on election day.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-09-04   19:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mininggold (#37)

Please reread your own post as it makes absolutely no sense.

I have no need to reread my own posts. But you should reread yours as you maintain a consistent theme suggesting that Kyle's death wasn't his own decision and either the dentist or society (at large) has a direct responsibility in the matter.

That is pure poppycock in a case like this.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-09-05   9:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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