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Title: Ron Paul’s racism emerges once again
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Capitol Hill Blue
URL Source: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40855
Published: May 15, 2011
Author: DOUG THOMPSON
Post Date: 2011-08-31 10:50:58 by lucysmom
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snip On June 4, 2004, while other members of Congress honored the 40th anniversary of the historic act, Paul stood on the floor of the House of Representatives and delivered a diatribe against integration, claiming it violated the Constitution “while diminishing individual freedoms.” “The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society,” Paul declared. Not a surprising statement from a man who is touted on white supremacist web sites as their candidate for President.
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#1. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, mininggold (#0)
Ron Paul will not be president.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
If the Federal Reserve gets it's way. They'll kill him if he does....;}
i don't think Paul's opposition to the civil rights act makes him a racist, he just thinks it is ok for private business owners to discriminate on any basis they choose.
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Correct. If Korea grocer in New York City only hires other Koreans, should the federal government be able to use their heavy hand to fine him, put him out of business, and perhaps even jail him? That's the question. To me the answer is no, because property rights are a fundamental and necessary component of individual rights. Quite frankly, in this day and age, with information zipping around the world at the speed of light on the internet, overt acts of discrimination by small business owners will bring punishment -- the punishment of the market as people refuse to do business with them. Of course, there will be exceptions, but there are exceptions to everything in life. So what?
He won't, and he's wrong about this lankmark legislation. One thing is for sure though; were he to be elected, much of his agenda would be DOA when it hit Congress or the high court.
If the Federal Reserve gets it's way. They'll kill him if he does....;} Wow - that must be some heavy duty drugs I'm on today. You're actually making sense. . .
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As much of a kook as I think Paul is, I simply cannot find anything inaccurate in those comments.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Of course not; this is true of most racists like you.
Do you think the folks involved in the flash mob incidents in Philadelphia and elsewhere are racists?
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
On July 3, 2004, Ron Paul was the only Congressman to vote against a bill hailing the 40th anniversary of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. In this speech to Congress, Ron Paul courageously spoke out on the often controversial issues of race relations and affirmative action. He explained why the Civil Right Act had failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Ron Paul: Mr. Speaker, I rise to explain my objection to H.Res. 676. I certainly join my colleagues in urging Americans to celebrate the progress this country has made in race relations. However, contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society. The federal government has no legitimate authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please and to form (or not form) contracts with terms mutually agreeable to all parties. The rights of all private property owners, even those whose actions decent people find abhorrent, must be respected if we are to maintain a free society. This expansion of federal power was based on an erroneous interpretation of the congressional power to regulate interstate commerce. The framers of the Constitution intended the interstate commerce clause to create a free trade zone among the states, not to give the federal government regulatory power over every business that has any connection with interstate commerce. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business's workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge's defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife. Of course, America has made great strides in race relations over the past forty years. However, this progress is due to changes in public attitudes and private efforts. Relations between the races have improved despite, not because of, the 1964 Civil Rights Act. In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, while I join the sponsors of H.Res. 676 in promoting racial harmony and individual liberty, the fact is the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not accomplish these goals. Instead, this law unconstitutionally expanded federal power, thus reducing liberty. Furthermore, by prompting raced-based quotas, this law undermined efforts to achieve a color-blind society and increased racial strife. Therefore, I must oppose H.Res. 676. Ron Paul explained to the racists in congress that affirmative action racial discrimination is no way to end racial discrimination. To this day there are still many race pimping racists who support racial discrimination, which they call "affirmative action".
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
You're actually making sense. . . Do not operate heavy machinery or computers. Not liable for blindness, diarrhea, or stomach reflux... consult your doctor if symptoms persist.....;}
I had a flash mob of Italian ethnic teenagers in a Seven Eleven I worked at very briefly in East Haven, CT. in 1975. The franchise owner had left and I was one of the two people reformatting the store the way corporate stores were set up. They were outraged one of their own was told by me to either buy the comic book he had sat in the store reading for 95 minutes or leave. lynching a business out of boredom and greed knows no racial grouping. That is, unless you are a race baiting POS like you.
Affirmative action was always meant to be a remedial fix not intended to last. I see nothing wrong with the concept or in the way this legislation was implemented. Affirmative action was a payment for some of the unfair losses in social status, jobs, housing, voting rights and many other things discrimination inflicted on African Americans as a demographic group since many of their ancestors were forcibly brought here as slaves. There was nothing unfair about it.
These were large groups of BLACK people specifically targeting white people and it has been well documented. Yes or no. Were they racists?
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
As has been stated before, the entire ideology - the main reason that the majority of so called conservatives advocate for a "limited govt" is because of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Any other sort of ideological baggage that comes with this movement is designed to cover this fact up or to code the overt racial segregationist ideology that migrated into the GOP as part of Nixon's embrace of the old Dixiecrats who imported their segregationist ideology into the Republican party. ...pretty much all the Republican- conservative positions since Nixon are really veiled racist policies and that small govt is really code word for weakining the federal govt so it can't enforce civil rights or not paying welfare to "coloreds" even though most people on welfare and food stamps are whites (but the false myth in the racist right wing mind is that its the blacks who are living well on welfare having kids out of wedlock that whites have to pay for the mythical black welfare queen). Bob Herbert, a New York Times columnist, reported a 1981 interview with Lee Atwater, published in Southern Politics in the 1990s by Prof. Alexander P. Lamis, in which Lee Atwater discussed politics in the South: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger"— that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger". Herbert wrote in the same column, "The truth is that there was very little that was subconscious about the G.O.P.'s relentless appeal to racist whites. Tired of losing elections, it saw an opportunity to renew itself by opening its arms wide to white voters who could never forgive the Democratic Party for its support of civil rights and voting rights for blacks." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
Yes. In fact I live in Korea town and many if not all the Korean grocers have hired non Koreans to be cashiers and stock clerks, etc. In fact, the Korean owned grocer I patronize has a deli section staffed by Americans who look to be of Italian decent (as far as I can tell of their ethnicity).
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
The ends justify the means. Isn't that what you oppose in the eco-terrorist faction? Racial discrimination is good... I was against it, before I was for it. ~Ferret Mike Kerry
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
So then Koreans should likewise be fine with Microsoft having a no Koreans hired policy?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
The ends does indeed justify the means here. Comparing this to say the crime of burning down the Oakridge, OR Forest Service station is using apples to talk about oranges; there is no comparison.
As much of a kook as I think Paul is, I simply cannot find anything inaccurate in those comments. IMHO, Paul overstates the goal I heard MLK speak at Stanford University in the mid 60s, he said it wasn't possible to pass laws requiring others to love him, but it was possible to enforced laws prohibiting others from doing him injury.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Isn't it odd that blatant racial discrimination persisted for a hundred years after the Civil War freed the slaves and the 14th amendment made former slaves full American citizens and only significantly improved after the Civil Rights Act was passed?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Those laws existed prior to the passage of the civil rights act, they just weren't being enforced. The reduction in discrimination was more to do with King and others calling attention to the problem, than the resulting legislation. It really did more harm than good. We'd be a lot closer to racial harmony if congress had done nothing. Government interference and their reverse discrimination mandate, aggravated racial discord.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
I doubt it. Government interference and their reverse discrimination mandate, aggravated racial discord. I lived through those times - it didn't look that way to me. Legislation made it clear that discrimination based on race was unacceptable, period.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
You must have lived in one of those lilly-white areas that didn't have any race riots.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
Race riots didn't begin with the Civil Rights Act.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
We had race riots in Richmond in the late fifties to '64.
'Lilly white' areas are great places to find racism as usually they are that way because of racist sentiments. Eugene, Oregon is a very white place. There used to be a cross on the butte ajacent to the train station and blacks and oriental people coming through in the late 1800s or the early Twentieth Century knew that this was a standard subtle warning for anything but subtle reaction for the wrong person in a racist's eyes to be where they didn't want them. We had laws here codifyng racism, and the KKK used to march in the Forth of july parade here every year. Racism these days is very subtle in the commission to protect this mind-set in the face of justice having finally been brought to light in the overall sceme of things, and you can find it here. I used to see it every day when I dealt with my bigotted Mom with whom I made no compromise ever with her hateful belief system on the subject. It was one area in which she died an ignorant old conservative, and this is a shame; but she like all other racists have the same bizarre hatred of the human species that blights their being. People who believe in or practice racism are beneath contempt in my own opinion, and I to not consider them in any good standing to trust or do business with if at all possible to not do so.
1964, wasn't that the year the Civil Rights Act was signed?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
There was another race riot in '68, that's when Travalini furniture was burned. Some say it was done to destroy records contained in the building, but I heard on the street that it was due to Willy Mays spending thousands buying furniture there for a house he had built. Kaiser imported thousands of itinerant poor from Texas and the south in the mid forties to late fifties as a source of cheap labor for it's various industries. When the gov contracts dried up so did the jobs. I remember these people camped out in tents on the side of the Santa Fe tracks, when we went to the depot to pick up friends.
It accomplished 3 things... 1). Created a whole class of people that nobody respects because of the circumstances behind them acquiring their jobs..... they didn't have the qualifications they were just the right color.... 2). Created a whole class of people totally dependent on the government for anything and everything, no knowledge of anything required..... why work hard just let the government do everything for you..... for free.... (as long as they vote for them).... 3). Made racism worse!!!! (especially by those on the Left.... they're expected to stay on the plantation, not actually have equal rights just think they do.....) Having equal rights is one thing, having unequal rights is another..... but then the Leftards don't really care about that, just how many votes they get....
When asked by a Liberal what I bought my Granddaughter for her 1st birthday I replied, "MORE AMMUNITION"!!!! -----------------------------"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
That's all that you libTURD whores have isn't weasel bitch? Time to gin up "de raciests" eh you gibbering libTURD whore? Do you know why you libTURDS stink whore? So that even blind people can HATE YOU! Badda BING ...... ! Spin on it weasel bitch. libTURD SCUM. SCUM
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
All of which: A.) destroyed the black family (70% + out of wedlock births) B.) destroyed America's inner cities (in conjunction with the war on drugs) Another fine mess the government has gotten us into.
The mess was there and then government got involved.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
So its government's fault again!
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
The fake Ron Paul supporters come out of the closet. Thanks. I knew it wasn't true. No one can support Ron Paul and defend Obama.
Why is Ron Paul the only one with balls enough to touch this issue?
You forgot to ping badeye.
He no longer wishes to receive pings from me so what's a mom to do?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Rand Paul talked about it too. Chris Mathews almost pissed himself.
I saw that. I just wanted you to know I'm here and about.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestNot a surprising statement from a man who is touted on white supremacist web sites as their candidate for President.
#2. To: lucysmom (#1)
Ron Paul will not be president.
#3. To: lucysmom (#0)
#4. To: go65 (#3)
i don't think Paul's opposition to the civil rights act makes him a racist, he just thinks it is ok for private business owners to discriminate on any basis they choose.
There two types of leftists -- idiots and tyrants. The idiots believe that big government has the answers. The tyrants exploit those beliefs to maintain power and control. -- jwpegler
#5. To: lucysmom (#1)
#6. To: mcgowanjm (#2)
Ron Paul will not be president.
HA! The tea-party, INDEED! They're so . . . ah . . . common
#7. To: lucysmom, All (#0)
#8. To: lucysmom (#0)
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 ... failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society,” Paul declared
#9. To: no gnu taxes (#8)
#10. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
#11. To: lucysmom, *Ron Paul for President* (#0)
Civil Rights Act
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#12. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#6)
Wow - that must be some heavy duty drugs I'm on today.
#13. To: no gnu taxes (#10)
#14. To: hondo68 (#11)
#15. To: Ferret Mike (#13)
#16. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, mininggold (#1)
#17. To: jwpegler, go65 (#4)
If Korea grocer in New York City only hires other Koreans, should the federal government be able to use their heavy hand to fine him, put him out of business, and perhaps even jail him?
#18. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
I see nothing wrong with the concept or in the way this legislation was implemented
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#19. To: jwpegler (#4)
If Korea grocer in New York City only hires other Koreans, should the federal government be able to use their heavy hand to fine him, put him out of business, and perhaps even jail him?
#20. To: hondo68 (#18)
#21. To: no gnu taxes (#8)
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 ... failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society,” Paul declared
#22. To: hondo68 (#11)
Of course, America has made great strides in race relations over the past forty years. However, this progress is due to changes in public attitudes and private efforts. Relations between the races have improved despite, not because of, the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
#23. To: lucysmom (#21)
I heard MLK speak at Stanford University in the mid 60s, he said it wasn't possible to pass laws requiring others to love him, but it was possible to enforced laws prohibiting others from doing him injury.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#24. To: hondo68 (#23)
It really did more harm than good. We'd be a lot closer to racial harmony if congress had done nothing.
#25. To: lucysmom (#24)
I lived through those times - it didn't look that way to me.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#26. To: hondo68 (#25)
You must have lived in one of those lilly-white areas that didn't have any race riots.
#27. To: lucysmom (#26)
Race riots didn't begin with the Civil Rights Act.
#28. To: hondo68 (#25)
"You must have lived in one of those lilly-white areas that didn't have any race riots."
#29. To: mininggold (#27)
We had race riots in Richmond in the late fifties to '64.
#30. To: lucysmom (#29)
(Edited)
1964, wasn't that the year the Civil Rights Act was signed?
#31. To: all (#0)
“The Civil Rights Act of 1964
#32. To: weasel bitch (#28)
Eugene, Oregon is a very white place. There used to be a cross on the butte ajacent to the train station and blacks and oriental people coming through in the late 1800s or the early Twentieth Century knew that this was a standard subtle warning for anything but subtle reaction for the wrong person in a racist's eyes to be where they didn't want them.
#33. To: CZ82, all (#31)
It accomplished 3 things...
There two types of leftists -- idiots and tyrants. The idiots believe that big government has the answers. The tyrants exploit those beliefs to maintain power and control. -- jwpegler
#34. To: jwpegler (#33)
Another fine mess the government has gotten us into.
#35. To: mininggold (#30)
Kaiser imported thousands of itinerant poor from Texas and the south in the mid forties to late fifties as a source of cheap labor for it's various industries. When the gov contracts dried up so did the jobs.
#36. To: Ferret Mike, lucysmom (#5)
He won't, and he's wrong about this lankmark legislation. One thing is for sure though; were he to be elected, much of his agenda would be DOA when it hit Congress or the high court.
#37. To: CZ82 (#31)
#38. To: lucysmom (#1)
#39. To: Fred Mertz (#38)
You forgot to ping badeye.
#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Why is Ron Paul the only one with balls enough to touch this issue?
There two types of leftists -- idiots and tyrants. The idiots believe that big government has the answers. The tyrants exploit those beliefs to maintain power and control. -- jwpegler
#41. To: lucysmom (#39)
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